New Age Cult Mixed with Armageddon? | Elizabeth Clare Prophet Case Analysis

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

2 жыл бұрын

This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Elizabeth Clare Prophet?
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@UseADamnCoaster
@UseADamnCoaster Жыл бұрын
Damn man, finding an old Dr. Grande video you haven't watched yet is like finding a $20 bill in the pocket of pants you haven't worn in months 🔥
@lymarie1974
@lymarie1974 4 ай бұрын
Well said.
@Rasputin443556
@Rasputin443556 2 жыл бұрын
"She believed that world leaders were corrupt, manipulative, and unable to solve problems." For once, a cult leader has a good core belief system.
@1mol831
@1mol831 2 жыл бұрын
That’s true, but that’s pointless
@tinkercooper1332
@tinkercooper1332 Жыл бұрын
How could she not get that one right.. There's no guessing involved on that call lol...
@streyr831
@streyr831 Жыл бұрын
@@tinkercooper1332 haha perhaps, but things she said in the past, has very much come true and to light now.
@fuck_the_CBCE
@fuck_the_CBCE Жыл бұрын
and you think that's 'insightful' - any DOPE knows that!
@cherjohnson6808
@cherjohnson6808 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@danierinash7952
@danierinash7952 2 жыл бұрын
It's called 'nominative determinism' when peoples careers match their names. I learned it from QI on the BBC.
@yvonnesugrue167
@yvonnesugrue167 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dani, I'm off to look it up now...👍
@adamdarknell366
@adamdarknell366 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up I had a ear doctor named Dr. Wax
@laneatkinson6441
@laneatkinson6441 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamdarknell366 I know of a Dr. Ricketts 😅
@angtxsun4460
@angtxsun4460 2 жыл бұрын
I had a prof named Dr Slaughter, she was a polisci prof and a lobbyist
@pigerchou
@pigerchou 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many “Smiths” are actually do smithing of some type
@elimorales7452
@elimorales7452 2 жыл бұрын
Shocked you covered this. My father was a member of her church Camelot in Los Angeles area, and I spent alot of time there, and knew her. My father was a camera man for her church sessions/decree sessions. I also spent time on the Montana property. I am now 46, and look back at how toxic this all was, it’s shocking. I just remember always being left in youth groups while he worked, I was always very stressed by the environment, could only eat and listen to and do what members provided to the children. It felt to me that members were always so preoccupied with Elizabeth and each other that us kids were an afterthought. Let’s just say as a mom of 2 now, as a child I learned what NOT to do in my parenting. I let both of my kiddos find their own beliefs and passions in a non religious household for the most part. Thank you for posting this!
@1mol831
@1mol831 2 жыл бұрын
I hope the Muslim women can overrun her.
@1mol831
@1mol831 2 жыл бұрын
Religious belief from secular origins are usually stronger, though most true believers have responsibility to spread
@elizabethmarshall3558
@elizabethmarshall3558 2 жыл бұрын
The mother of a friend of mine lived with her in Montana for years.
@weeooh1
@weeooh1 2 жыл бұрын
"Let’s just say as a mom of 2 now, as a child I learned what NOT to do in my parenting. I let both of my kiddos find their own beliefs and passions in a non religious household for the most part." --- So ultimately it was purposeful, in that you derived great value from it for the benefit of your children.
@NotChefCook
@NotChefCook 2 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethmarshall3558 - That's an odd take on what she said. Did it not occur to you she found a wholesome way to parents IN SPITE of her mistreatment as a child ? That is almost invariably the case with cult survivors who come out of it in reasonably decent shape .
@MakeWayForTheLion
@MakeWayForTheLion 2 жыл бұрын
That's it, I'm legally changing my last name to "Assistant Marketing Director".
@Simba______
@Simba______ 4 ай бұрын
What about Senior Marketing Director? Wouldn’t that be better?
@werstillnotfreedamit8701
@werstillnotfreedamit8701 4 ай бұрын
​@@Simba______ NO THQ WE DONOT NEED CORUPT CORP RAT IDIOTS MOR THAN WE DO ALREDY😮😢
@lymarie1974
@lymarie1974 4 ай бұрын
😂
@cottontails9003
@cottontails9003 2 жыл бұрын
"Mark told her she was his twin flame, which is a pick-up line for the new age cult". Dr Grande, you are the best.
@mirtacotto749
@mirtacotto749 2 жыл бұрын
He is so right.
@stephaniefedorishin3862
@stephaniefedorishin3862 2 жыл бұрын
i adored that line by you Dr. Grande. Your sense of dry humor is the best!!!
@AsWeSpeak154
@AsWeSpeak154 Жыл бұрын
😂🤣😅😆
@justinkurtrivera2315
@justinkurtrivera2315 Жыл бұрын
Twin flame is not new age but your religion is way more new age bullshit
@dorothybrandes5591
@dorothybrandes5591 10 ай бұрын
That was not very respectful. In Hindu religion, our soul is split in two parts, male and female, and thus we all are seeking our other part. Even gender is no longer sacred, due to their programming. Gender is all the male and female parts you experience from life to life, trying all combinations.
@TatianaProphetMusic
@TatianaProphetMusic Жыл бұрын
Yes, that was really his last name. That’s my father. I traveled up to Quebec to the Prophet farm and interviewed many of my father’s cousins. This was after he passed I have proof that this was really their name by the street sign at the family farm as well as gravestones.
@BonnieLuitze
@BonnieLuitze 10 ай бұрын
Hi Tatiana, I doubt you remember me, because I was only at Camelot for about a year or so when I was 12. We were friendly with each other, but not close. I hope you are well these days. it has been a long time! I think we are about the same age (I am 54 now). Take care!
@TatianaProphetMusic
@TatianaProphetMusic 10 ай бұрын
@@BonnieLuitze Hi Bonnie! Wow! Were you close friends with Alexa? I only knew one Bonnie and it was probably you! The school photo that I would periodically look at over the years has helped me remember some classmates who weren’t there very long. Our pic is awesome, we are both laughing hysterically! It is wonderful to hear from you. Also I had skipped a couple grades so I’m about 3 years younger. I remember having really fun times with you!
@werstillnotfreedamit8701
@werstillnotfreedamit8701 4 ай бұрын
U 2 SHOULD STAY IN TOUCH
@TatianaProphetMusic
@TatianaProphetMusic 4 ай бұрын
@@werstillnotfreedamit8701 We are now. ☺️
@iamlight1
@iamlight1 4 ай бұрын
I had subscribed to Dr. Grande when he started with videos on psychology that interested me. I was shocked to find this.
@rayross997
@rayross997 2 жыл бұрын
Please consider some speculation on Edgar Cayce. Thx Dr. Grande.
@JCPJCPJCP
@JCPJCPJCP 2 жыл бұрын
I've been informed by his favorite Apple 🍎 Polisher that the Teacher's thoughts about Edgar Cayce are reserved for his Inner Circle, i.e. those among us who've coughed up the requisite cash.
@bitteralmonds666
@bitteralmonds666 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of a cult leader whose last name is “Scammer.” 💟🧐🤔
@mandysetters4266
@mandysetters4266 2 жыл бұрын
Is anyone's family still into this? My dad never left the Summit Lighthouse. He has a normal job, but twice a day, every day when I was little, I heard him reciting decrees. He does it to this day. I also heard that after Elizabeth Prophet's death there was a major split in the church. With one side becoming more mellow and organic, and the other going full aliens and cult compounds.
@vivsgm7538
@vivsgm7538 2 жыл бұрын
My family still follows her teachings. I find those beliefs harmless and see no problem in the way they practice. They eat healthy, try to make no bad karma and build good karma, or reach Darhma, they do pray problems away too much for my style, but hey whatever works for ya. I do believe we are spiritual beings living a physical experience, so it would scientifically made sense that some people understand energy better than others. I'm just to down to earth on this life, might not be ready for my wings yet.
@vivsgm7538
@vivsgm7538 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, and by the way, my father met with her on several occasions,, and he considered her a good friend. He's told me of important things she did to help him when in time of need. He never paid money per say to them, he purchased books and stuff. Again, I'm not judgmental about any religion or cult or spiritual belief...
@doreenward580
@doreenward580 3 ай бұрын
I'm still in over 40 years
@jasperbaltazar987
@jasperbaltazar987 3 ай бұрын
One of my parents follows their teachings.. it is horrible. It is honestly a white supremacist cult which preys on non white people to pray in hopes they get born white next life. They have a “great white brotherhood” . They also teach that the darker you are the more you have sinned. They do not believe that our souls need our physical forms and think that eating food and sleeping are for mere mortals and ascended masters don’t need these things so if you are eventually thinking you could become an ascended master after years of doing what they say then you will be encouraged not to eat food or get enough sleep.
@mamacito1795
@mamacito1795 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so early im speculating something is wrong with the universe...
@440SPN
@440SPN Жыл бұрын
Her book Violet Flame, and others have been very helpful to me on my spiritual path. Just because ideas are spiritual or abstract doesnt mean they are meaningless. Religion is personal and to use a psych word, highly subjective.
@questioneverything751
@questioneverything751 9 ай бұрын
I don’t blame these negative people . They are ignorant
@threestars2164
@threestars2164 7 ай бұрын
This is just proof religion is bs
@jeffcarlin5866
@jeffcarlin5866 6 ай бұрын
Violent Flame might contain a few good ideas...but New Age ideas, by and large, are bullshit. Spirituality is bullshit.
@werstillnotfreedamit8701
@werstillnotfreedamit8701 4 ай бұрын
​​@@questioneverything751Y THECL WORD IGNOR IZ IN IT THEYVR FOOLS JUSTO LAF WHILE TERROR WAR SUFERing HAPN OCURIGHT UNDR THEIR NOSEZ n LACK EMPATHY CLASOPHISTICATION APPROPRIATE CONDUCT JUST CHAOSTUPIDUMBNES😮😢 WATS NEW NUTN UNDR THAT YELA🌟🌞💥🌈🌼
@aceshigh5157
@aceshigh5157 2 жыл бұрын
i really enjoy your material on cults.
@annalisegiovanni7032
@annalisegiovanni7032 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Dr. Grande❣️ Thank you for the new video! I'm still at work but I've always got time for your videos!
@emmyrose1802
@emmyrose1802 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why I thought your “assistant marketing director “ joke was so funny.
@stephaniefedorishin3862
@stephaniefedorishin3862 2 жыл бұрын
I loved that one too! LOL
@kristabelletshotyana8089
@kristabelletshotyana8089 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, personally I have found a lot of help in the teachings of teachers like Elizabeth however there always seemed to be a disconnect when it came to healing my pain. It was really only through therapy and holding myself accountable that healing occurred. That being said I still enjoy listening to ascended Masters if you will because at my core is an inner child who needs a soft maternal voice saying everything will be okay and you are loved. Many people who are broken find themselves in some type of religious fanaticism I always urge people to move with caution and question, always question everything.
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 2 жыл бұрын
“Mark told Elizabeth that she was his twin flame, which is a new age cult version of a pick up line.”🤣🤣🤣 This one is just too funny… On another note, I do believe that Mark’s last name “Prophet” may have influenced his behavior. In the same way, it’s quite amazing to me that Dr. Todd Grande’s last name is Grande. What a fitting last name, as Dr. Grande is nothing else but greatness. Thank you for the analysis and the laughter!😂 Much appreciated.❤️
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Rejane - How needy would you have to be to think that this sort of group had any real worth? "Give me your money and leave your mind at the door!" Dr. Grande shreds this sort of cult! Good work!
@annalisegiovanni7032
@annalisegiovanni7032 2 жыл бұрын
@@bthomson ~We meet again. I was having very very similar thoughts. Major needy stage 5 clinger right there. I just, I, I don't understand. My brain has failure to launch when it comes to cults.
@kristinetaulbut4975
@kristinetaulbut4975 2 жыл бұрын
Pick up lines for a whole new level of gullible
@pocoeagle2
@pocoeagle2 2 жыл бұрын
I know a pulmonologist, who's last name is Smoker 🚬 😅
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 2 жыл бұрын
@@bthomson Hi friend. 👋😉💙💙I think some people in the new age spiritual groups fall for this not realizing its a cult. Very sad so many frauds out there 😢
@jackiemarsh2470
@jackiemarsh2470 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You So Much Dr. as Always!! Hope Your Day Was Great, and You have a Tranquil Evening!!🌵🪴🦋🪴🌵
@stevenjambrozy2057
@stevenjambrozy2057 2 жыл бұрын
Does prophet rhyme with profit?! Nuclear shelters are expensive. Firefighters put out fires. Tubes of light, too...
@christinepreston48
@christinepreston48 5 ай бұрын
The Summit Lighthouse is an organization and attached to it is Church Universal and Triumphant or vice versa. They are organizations without profit. People funded their own nuclear shelters if they wanted to. The Tube of Light is not an electric one...it is a spiritual concept. It can be invoked from the I AM Presence, but it is our protection even if we don't know it. In the New Testament when Moses sees a bush on fire, it's a mistranslation as the I AM Presence is the Inner Teacher also mentioned as the Tree of Life in Genesis.
@patrickmcinerney9491
@patrickmcinerney9491 Жыл бұрын
Dude you're hilarious. 99.9% of your videos are real and insightful, and then you'll throw out a zinger, not draw attention to it at all, and keep moving forward. Perfect.
@laurenturner3578
@laurenturner3578 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first video you’ve done where I laughed out loud multiple times, especially the dry overview on reading her books and wishing to ascend somewhere she wasn’t.
@rorymckenzie8598
@rorymckenzie8598 10 ай бұрын
Classic: "I wonder how his last name of prophet inspired his calling, and can't help but wonder how his life would have turned out if his last name was Farmer or Trucker or Market Analyst..." >>>I know I don't have your quote exactly right, but Todd.... You're killing it! 😅 Suggestion---> After some of these dry humor gems, you might say, "I'll Be here all week. Try the veal. And don't forget to tip your waitress."
@kristinetaulbut4975
@kristinetaulbut4975 2 жыл бұрын
I have a headache from rolling my eyes on this one. Thankfully laughing helps with pain.
@malykoth
@malykoth 2 жыл бұрын
I used to do a lot of remixes and mashups of songs...Prophet's decrees actually ended up in a few. I wonder if she was ever involved in auctioneering? Her decrees have the exact same cadence.
@pramana1685
@pramana1685 2 жыл бұрын
"Twin flame- new age version of a pick up line." So true 😂
@miraclenichols4332
@miraclenichols4332 2 жыл бұрын
Always interesting ❤️ U Dr G have a good week!
@vkumra
@vkumra Жыл бұрын
"After reading her books, a person WISHES to ascend to a place where her books do not exist". omggg you really are the best.
@netzaketer7303
@netzaketer7303 Жыл бұрын
I can say that she and her teachings have helped me in bettering myself as a person. I have cured phsycological aspects of my live because of her. Her teachings are not bad or harmful, quite the contrary. I invite you to practice some introspection to your heart and see what you find.
@threestars2164
@threestars2164 7 ай бұрын
So creating a apocalyptic cult is "not harmful" to you?
@netzaketer7303
@netzaketer7303 7 ай бұрын
@@threestars2164 I mean, look at the world right now. Isn't it quite catastrophic and apocalyptic? Just because we are not experiencing any direct harm right now it doesn't mean it is not happening.
@christinepreston48
@christinepreston48 5 ай бұрын
he needs to practice the decrees he criticizes or will end up being a pawn of the forces of darkness in their opposition to the Light and the teachings that were given fortunately - before this era when there is a secret technology that is being used to introduce false concepts into new age. He is pretending to be objective and is carrying out an analysis but in reality he does not have the discernment and has only studied the matter superficially. I have since 1980 and have a BA [hons] in Religious Studies, and an MA as well as did research for a PhD. I had a book published in 2009 and one with the title' From the Words of Angels' in 2012. I had 325 videos published then about 40 with ChannelAscension, and Matt Muckleroy is uploading my work 'Beyond the Veil of the Lost Holy Grail' on his channel.
@werstillnotfreedamit8701
@werstillnotfreedamit8701 4 ай бұрын
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@werstillnotfreedamit8701
@werstillnotfreedamit8701 4 ай бұрын
​@@threestars2164GOVERN MENT MENTE MIND HAZ ALWAYZ BEEN butheBiGFaT BUT DONOT C U SAYing ANYTHING AGAINST IT THE BIGEST CULTHAT WRKD WITH ECWP FATHR LOOK UP THE WULF NAVY SHIPS CULT-URE JUST ANUTHR WORD FOR GROUP Y ITS CALD CULT URES UGHHHhhh DAM FREAKISH LIFEXISTENCE O FENOMENA AND STUPIDUMBNES THIS WHOLE REALITY IZ HARMFUL FOOL SO ANOYing
@RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose
@RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose 2 жыл бұрын
Long time no watch but I made just a pilgrimage for our charismatic cult leader Dr Grande❣😏
@pierre6625
@pierre6625 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Dr. Grande, thank you for the amazing vedios. I do find your humor great, funny but to the point of the story. Love your analysis of each case, very precise.. Best Regards. ❤👍
@skepticusmaximus184
@skepticusmaximus184 2 жыл бұрын
As always, I found your analysis of this topic to be informative. Thanks for posting. 😉
@dianataylor8685
@dianataylor8685 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in San Francisco and my mother attended her various retreats, taking me along. She wore huge rings of orecious gems on her fingers and was worshipped like a god. Monday you wore white, Tuesday violet, Wednesday yellow, Thursday light blue, from head to toe, but NEVER green, red,orange or black which had evil vibrations. The chanting was fun and energizing and the vegetarian food could be great. Beyond that I have little to say. My mom visited the Montana Ranch but did not have enough money to be usefully absorbed into the group. Thanka for doing this one Dr. Grande, The whole thing was a series of bizarre experiences
@TatianaProphetMusic
@TatianaProphetMusic 10 ай бұрын
Green was very good. Tuesday was blue. Thy ears at was purple - and gold.
@TatianaProphetMusic
@TatianaProphetMusic 10 ай бұрын
Wednesday was green. Friday, white. Saturday, violet. Sunday, yellow
@orangetulip1261
@orangetulip1261 Ай бұрын
@Diantaylor, it would be interesting to know how old you were then...
@memorandum740
@memorandum740 2 жыл бұрын
It's so interesting how one can think they're more spiritual when they speak in half truths, because it leaves room for others to figure it out like this person is doing you a favor. That contributes to delusions, and then the unsuspecting person looks up to the person adding to his/her cult following...thinking everyone else who is articulate wants to control you, when really they are just coming from a place of ignorance. I'm so glad you covered this and some the names you mentioned are folks I used to follow. It really was self-destructing. Thanks Dr. Grande!
@mrylouisemascott4870
@mrylouisemascott4870 2 жыл бұрын
I know Elizabeth Clair Prophet and this beloved church Universal and Triumphant. I have been a member for 47 years . It is all loving and as I am a witness because of this church my life was saved I love her and everthing she stands for because what she stands for is truth
@kcpowner9628
@kcpowner9628 2 жыл бұрын
You're dry humour is spot on!!
@aresmars2003
@aresmars2003 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! My dad was a part of her "cult", Church for Universal and Triumphant, wanted my family to move out to their campus in California called Camelot. Apparently she believed she was reincarnation of Guinevere and they'd do musical Camelot where she played the queen! My parents marriage ended a year after my dad flew my 9 year old (older) brother to California without my mom's permission. Fortunately my dad never moved there, but never rejected his beliefs. Later we did hear about them moving to Montana and stockpiled weapons. Crazy! My brother used to do the St Germaine and archangel Michael chants. And we had spooky posters (in my bedroom with my brother) with them with eyes that would seem to follow you.
@aresmars2003
@aresmars2003 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande, mostly I find your analysis not useful since rational people will agree, while believers will say they have "special knowledge" that allows its meaning to be understood. I'd say my dad's vulnerability was growing up as a single child on a farm, and he lost a younger sister after 13 days, and he remembers being intensely jealous before she died, and as a child believed he was responsible for her "soul" leaving back to heaven. Later he hated the Lutheran church's pastor saying we're born sinners, and felt he was innocent. So from age 3 to age 10 he carried his imaginary guilt by making up imaginary souls that were responsible not him. So as a result, "negative" emotions were painful in him, and he found the new age church preach positivity and spiritual flames of protection. The church taught him he could handle marriage conflicts by walking away from my mom's negative thoughts, literally! I don't think I had his gullibility because I grew up with an older brother and younger sister, and understood conflict better, both as bully and bullied, and how to have boundaries, and not need other people to be wrong for me to feel right. My brother was adopted, and mother an alcoholic, and he needed attention more than me, and liked the church treated him like an "adult". For me being adult meant to get the hell away from crazy people, or at least keep them at arm's length! I like "understanding" people, even if I can't really understand. but there must be SOME explanation why some people are credulous!
@lynnehuff9659
@lynnehuff9659 2 жыл бұрын
@@aresmars2003 Your comment is very interesting. It gave me some things to think about regarding why some New Age teachings might draw some in. Elizabeth sounds completely crazy, to me.
@aresmars2003
@aresmars2003 2 жыл бұрын
@@lynnehuff9659 People make you think, while from a distance all seems crazy. My sister married an evangelical who was following the plandemic/qanon stuff onilne, and trump's big lie, and it makes me crazy. And a friend of my brother in law actually "kidnapped" my sister April 2021 when I offered to drive her to get her covid vaccine, but eventually she did get it. They believed it was designed by bill gates to implant nanotech and kill everyone within 3-years apparently. Maybe there is something "psychic" in the world that makes people more crazy at certain times, or maybe its always there, just dormant in good times? But my dad shows it was always with us. He also loved Coast to Coast overnight radio, Art Bell interviewing other crazy people with no critical questions. He'd tape record them and ask me to listen to some, and they just annoyed me. Now, they're all on youtube.
@aresmars2003
@aresmars2003 2 жыл бұрын
@@lynnehuff9659 I've also thought about those hypnotists who'd make people cluck around like chicken at a Senior party, and cults must do something like that, suspended disbelief, and you ask why they followed the instructions ,and they'll say it felt like a game, and they felt the directive came from INSIDE, rather than outside, so just like our unconscious directs us, hypnotist somehow gains access to that level of awareness.
@wrmlm37
@wrmlm37 Жыл бұрын
Christ, this comment is SO SPOT ON. It's like modern day Repulicanism, another cult that has torn families apart. Your comment flew me back 4 decades:) My mom could not afford to move, nor did she really want to. She used my boss, as a way to secure HER job, weirdly-(he was the one who got her involved with CP-this, whilst married to Dad, but flirting with my boss:() She was more like someone who would belong to a Catholic saints' cult. The archangels ruled her world as well as the pantheon of saints.. CP was just a useful diversion for a narcissistic (probably/maybe) woman. I left about a yr later for a bookkeeping job, and Clare P, was no more:) She could no longer influence my work life, or home life. Whew. Dangerous people.
@Ella98960
@Ella98960 Жыл бұрын
I’m came for the humour and I wasn’t disappointed - right before “My final thoughts”. It was worth the wait. 😁 😎
@paulaholte4155
@paulaholte4155 2 жыл бұрын
You always make me chuckle--Thanks :-)
@annal7364
@annal7364 2 жыл бұрын
UM, did New Jersey come out of this analysis unscathed? If I didn't know better, I'd say Dr. G's warming up to it. Love this comment if that's the way of it, Dr. G. 🤣
@mikeballard8404
@mikeballard8404 2 жыл бұрын
I knew a guy whose last name was Crooks, guess what? Yep, that's right.
@Army4life82
@Army4life82 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to hear your analysis on the Tristan Bailey and Lacey Fletcher cases beyond heartbreaking
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande did do a video on this @ 10 months ago. Check it out.
@GT-vs2fm
@GT-vs2fm Жыл бұрын
I saw the title of the video and said to myself this is going to be awesome
@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929
@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929 2 жыл бұрын
My aunt and her husband were part of this group for a while and eventually joined the Montana bunker population. Every few years was another doomsday coming until finally for one of those events the high school kids didn't show up to the bunkers.. My aunt is better now after that at least but I think her husband walked off into the sunset or something. As far as I can remember my cousins have never said a single thing about those years. Not about music movies nothing. Elizabeth also occasionally identified as Arthur's half sister Morgana.
@laurastrobel718
@laurastrobel718 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know if this group is still active? Dr G didn't say anything about that beyond Elizabeths' death
@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929
@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurastrobel718 I don't actually. We as a family stopped paying attention once they were out of it. I do remember hearing about Elizabeth's death when it happened though. We always called it the Guru Ma Cult, And we called the leaders Morgana and Merlin. Doctor Grande did mention the Merlin part. We called them these things for our personal coping mechanisms.
@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929
@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinafoster8665 That was in the Eureka area of northern California. Considered part of the Pacific Northwest West it used to rain a lot more there than it does now usually about 8 or 9 months of the year. On top of that my Hometown of Eureka has the 2nd highest murder rate per capita just behind Oakland for the entire state. When you're from there you develop a dark sense of humor and some mocking sarcasm.
@laurastrobel718
@laurastrobel718 2 жыл бұрын
@@demonicusa.k.a.theblindguy3929 Thanks for your reply. As I mentioned in my comment to this video, I have a book published by Summit University called the Human Author, the authors name are some East Indian sounding, entities that Prophet claimed to channel I think. There's photos of gatherings etc. The people in the photos look normal and happy, things about this organization looked good on paper. I wondered if it was a bonfire cult. Some info that Dr G provided here answered my questions. Glad your family got out unscathed, doesn't always work out that way sadly😕
@mirtacotto749
@mirtacotto749 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurastrobel718. Yes, the group is still active, but I think it’s on a smaller scale. They think of Elizabeth Claire Prophet as an ascended master (mistress?).
@channelthree9424
@channelthree9424 2 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth was supposed to be a prophet but she did not foresee the rocket the Russians were going to launch against the US when they thought we were launching a rocket at them when the US military were sending test rockets at the strait of Gibraltar. Due to miscommunication and antiquated equipment, the Russians did not realize the US were launching test rockets and not actual rockets. They were only minutes away from starting a war. This was in the mid 90s. When I first heard about this, it made me think about the Cuban missile crisis. And how close we were to be in war with Russia.
@channelthree9424
@channelthree9424 2 жыл бұрын
That ol’ Chris Columbus is always talking to modern-day people. He’s such a chatterbox.
@stephenking8104
@stephenking8104 2 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth was also seen with her group praising St Germain in an original episode of “In Search of” with Leonard Nimoy.
@melissae1116
@melissae1116 2 жыл бұрын
Doc, you have a great, subtle, sense of humor!!
@gennifershafer6975
@gennifershafer6975 2 жыл бұрын
At least she seemed to be good natured .. not really out to harm anyone.. i heart kind of goes out to her... like I kind of feel sad for her.. but I guess she was happy.
@charlesgerety1403
@charlesgerety1403 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande, thank you for your insights, knowledge and wisdom of which I have certainly learned a great deal from. I would be very interested in perhaps your analysis of the late legendary vocalist Chris Cornell who passed away in 2017.
@cymeezer619rmh4
@cymeezer619rmh4 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Cornell 😔 Such a voice! 🎶 💜!
@charlesgerety1403
@charlesgerety1403 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelleydunkle7867 Oh that's a awesome nominee also. I didn't think about him. Depression is serious stuff. For those two guys to check out like that despite the great Karma they had says it all
@sarah2.017
@sarah2.017 2 жыл бұрын
@@shelleydunkle7867 ISTR that he did one on Mr. Bennington.
@DirtySanchez943
@DirtySanchez943 Жыл бұрын
Love and light dr grande... You need it!!!
@laurastrobel718
@laurastrobel718 2 жыл бұрын
Another book that was published by Summit University was called The Human Aura, first published in 1972, with additional reprintings in 1977 and 1986. I have a copy, and no, I wasn't part of this group😊 I always wondered about this lady and wanted to know more details about her organization, amazing that you just happened to cover her today. Love the classic Dr G shade, especially the zinger about twin flame being a pickup line, I always suspected that🙂
@jcrnda
@jcrnda 2 жыл бұрын
Also twin souls, soul mate and other pickup lines!
@tatianavieiradesapires1327
@tatianavieiradesapires1327 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there dr Grande how are you? .. Im very interesed, by why n wht causes all of this ppl to follow into this cults, as wht also trully causes all of them to be full on into this. So may I ask for a small vdd about this plz?if so? Tysm. N Tysvm for all of the fantastic work tht Ur channel provides us. ☮️🍀👊😉 TC n be safe dr Todd Grande ♥️🇵🇹
@laurastrobel718
@laurastrobel718 2 жыл бұрын
@@jcrnda Ikr?😊
@Mymelody.119
@Mymelody.119 Жыл бұрын
I find it interesting you know so much about her content and have her books, but yet afraid to explore further spiritual truth and require a “Dr” to tell you what to believe in.
@Chiquete2023
@Chiquete2023 4 ай бұрын
I have her books and pearls of wisdom , and the lost teachings of Jesus: my experiences with her in Mexico and Montana ARE fundamentally important in my life. Thank you Elizabeth … nobody is perfect but your light was sent to this planet for huge reasons that only God knows … and God is all divine intelligence beyond our understanding . You are always with me . 1980-to date.
@AirgunChannel
@AirgunChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Some good jokes in this one!
@KMWeir
@KMWeir 2 жыл бұрын
I’m laughing all through this one. Great video, Dr. Grande!
@lisamarieharmon8585
@lisamarieharmon8585 2 жыл бұрын
You are hilarious. And accurate. Love your videos.
@sunnycatc6491
@sunnycatc6491 2 жыл бұрын
First , thank you Dr G, I know I'll like it...love it.
@jadetaylor2443
@jadetaylor2443 2 жыл бұрын
There is ample material for you to evaluate in today's world. But Dr. Grande you are so fast making videos about the most current people in the news as well as current events as well as older stories.
@happydudemarius9404
@happydudemarius9404 2 жыл бұрын
My brother has tried many times to become an ascended master. It hadn't worked yet.
@yishmiraibenisrael8771
@yishmiraibenisrael8771 5 ай бұрын
Happydudemarius, that was the cutest thing that you said about your brother; but now just be patient, God is not finished with him yet. Oh, and tell your brother for me not to give up! peace and love, yishmirai
@michelemahon141
@michelemahon141 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the Doc’s videos. You watch w/a sense of anticipation because his deadpan lines come outta nowhere since he gives no warning or signs that he’s about to drop the mic. Smooth. 😂
@alicecolleenflynn
@alicecolleenflynn 2 жыл бұрын
There is an excellent book providing details and history of how this cult branched out from the "I AM" movement and manipulated followers. It is written by former members Kenneth and Talita Paolini. The title is "400 Years Of Imaginary Friends".
@chrisgriffin6489
@chrisgriffin6489 Жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm reading her books now
@alicecolleenflynn
@alicecolleenflynn Жыл бұрын
@@chrisgriffin6489 I hope you don't mean Prophet's books. They are nutty. Read "400 Years of Imaginary Friends" by Kenneth and Talita Paolini. If you can't find it, message me. I have a PDF of the book I can e-mail to you.
@chrisgriffin6489
@chrisgriffin6489 Жыл бұрын
@@alicecolleenflynn lol I'm reading her fallen angels and I got 4 more books by her. Not impressed
@alicecolleenflynn
@alicecolleenflynn Жыл бұрын
@@chrisgriffin6489 Yes, I couldn't stand more than one where she complained about a woman shopping in JC Penney and used it as a spiritual lesson. Terrible ideas, terrible writer as well. LOL
@chrisgriffin6489
@chrisgriffin6489 Жыл бұрын
@@alicecolleenflynn that sounds logical to me. Was she referring to the woman buying things to sexualize herself more?
@SurlyMontanan
@SurlyMontanan 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes in the Missoula, MT craigslist CUT properties appear in the real estate listings complete with their bunkers.
@chrisgriffin6489
@chrisgriffin6489 Жыл бұрын
Lol I'm buying land in mt I may buy her land
@BucketHeadianHagg
@BucketHeadianHagg 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dr Funnybone!
@btetschner
@btetschner 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of New Age beliefs in there, very interesting group. With a name like Prophet, it would be easier to entertain such a lifestyle. The Twin Flames concept is a very New Age way of bonding with new mates. Thank you for the video.
@lnc-to4ku
@lnc-to4ku 2 жыл бұрын
You had me laughing with this video! "Mark told Elizabeth that she was his 'twin flame', which is a new age cult version of a pick-up line." ;D ;D "....and, convincing church members to hand over their money." 😅
@auntielaura5
@auntielaura5 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande - I’d love to hear your thoughts on Rudy Giuliani. He has fallen so low after the acclaim he received due to his response to 9/11 - what could have happened to him? Or was it always smoke and mirrors obfuscating who he truly was? Thanks!
@orangemangas2465
@orangemangas2465 2 жыл бұрын
He did screw up a little bit. But not worse than all these other piece of shit in the government.
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it simply that you disagree with him politically?
@orangemangas2465
@orangemangas2465 2 жыл бұрын
@@eadweard. WHAT'S UP EB, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF AMBER HEARD HAVING TO START AN ONLY FANS ACCOUNT 🤣
@logiclight
@logiclight 10 ай бұрын
​@@eadweard.Seriously? Are you oblivious to how weird he has become?
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 10 ай бұрын
@@logiclight You'd need to be more specific really.
@BilgePump
@BilgePump 2 жыл бұрын
The old water skiing revelation and watching Red Dawn for inspiration. yup, should’ve stayed in California. Perfect.
@stargoddess2344
@stargoddess2344 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis and commentary, mine were just suspicions but I have always steered clear of the teachings as they seemed so unreal.
@m.f.richardson1602
@m.f.richardson1602 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding humor😊 Seems they all have the same objective. What's sad is there are so many people looking for crazy-ass leadership, and to lead them like weak sheep. Again, another reason, I enjoy my own company. Thank you. Peace 💕🇺🇲
@maxalberts2003
@maxalberts2003 2 жыл бұрын
What you've written is true, apparently wired into our species and just terribly sad.
@Lex41710
@Lex41710 2 жыл бұрын
Impenetrable, that's the real deal....dude all with a perfectly straight face....I'm dying, you Rock Bro.
@devolatif8698
@devolatif8698 8 ай бұрын
I lived in her first house in Virginia. Lighthouse. That house was Evil! To this day terrifying! I had horrible experience for 40yrs. God bless you and everyone 🙏 Conjured demons and horrible things happened.
@priscillaportenier3962
@priscillaportenier3962 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in Livingston, MT at that time. It was interesting to observe how the locals dealt with all the influx of followers.
@chrisgriffin6489
@chrisgriffin6489 Жыл бұрын
I'm near there now. Can you tell me more? I'm reading her books
@MrDale53
@MrDale53 11 ай бұрын
@@chrisgriffin6489 If you can get ahold of a copy, read "Prophet's Daughter" by Elizabeth Prophet's daughter, Erin Prophet. It will give you the background you need, whatever you decide about her teachings. (Maybe Livingston Public Library has a copy.)
@Chiquete2023
@Chiquete2023 4 ай бұрын
I was in Livingston in 1988… 3 months .. summer time. The most beautiful place I’ve ever lived in USA. I was only 23… following the path of spiritual search. I now can understand how difficult it was for the locals to deal with all of us . Yet, Livingston got a lot of sales from outsiders. 😊 Most visitors of CUT were very polite, uplifted by their teachings, stayed at their homes, ranch, apts, tents for many hours at a time. No visits to the local pubs or party goers… yet… definitively total disconnection to the local community
@werstillnotfreedamit8701
@werstillnotfreedamit8701 4 ай бұрын
so waz i in 88 tryd Bozeman Highschool but its just like any hi school TYPICAL and FREAKN ROBOTIC LIKE DAT MOVIE WITH TOBY MCGUIRE PREDICTABLE and C NOW Y THSMAT DAM CHiP WRKs FEAKNUTSICK we aint HUmanimaLz SOLz ChiLdrn O aGod n Godes CUZ DEN WE R COMITing INSEST 🤮vOmit ITS ALL SCATERd NO SENSE OF A BIO TECHEMICAL REALITY CREATing MYTH STORYOLOGY JOURNEYS FENÓMENA LACKing BOUNDERY
@BunnySlippers82
@BunnySlippers82 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago, my ex-fiance and his family were caught up in this cult, and in an effort to help him, I talked to one of Elizabeth Clare Prophet's sons. He was outspoken about the fact that his mother was a fraud who would pretend to have her body inhabited by Jesus and others, as well as perform magic tricks with his help. She documented everything so that she could go back and double check, rather than contradict herself. He said he was ashamed he ever helped her concoct these schemes, but that he was a teenager at the time and had to cut off all contact with his family when he told them he thought what they were doing is wrong. I was able to help my ex-fiance, but not the rest of his family unfortunately. It took me years to do it, but was worth getting him out of there.
@Mama_Bear524
@Mama_Bear524 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a story. Thx for sharing
@BunnySlippers82
@BunnySlippers82 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mama_Bear524 Thanks- it was tricky there for awhile.
@lnc-to4ku
@lnc-to4ku 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! ♡♡
@chrisgriffin6489
@chrisgriffin6489 Жыл бұрын
Lol I'm there now
@TatianaProphetMusic
@TatianaProphetMusic 10 ай бұрын
That’s not even accurate. My brother didn’t denounce her till he was in his 30s after being her lieutenant. He did not concoct any schemes. He thinks anything paranormal is a scheme
@wmfield152
@wmfield152 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting profile Dr G. What I'd like to understand: what is it that draws people to this type of "church" and how is it they believed what she proclaimed?
@rosemeadowmedia7965
@rosemeadowmedia7965 8 ай бұрын
This is secretly hilarious. Love your channel.
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you covered this case. Always nice to hear your analysis on these new age people. So ridiculous when you break it down.Thanks Dr G😊💚❤
@cottontails9003
@cottontails9003 2 жыл бұрын
Please, let me know if you got the transfer? 😢😘👍❤💙✉🎋🎋🎋
@cottontails9003
@cottontails9003 2 жыл бұрын
Also, my brother has been talking about songs, he wants at his funeral. I decided if I was cremated, (highly unlikely ) , I want the song "Come on baby, light, my fire"😂😜❤💙
@moreblessingkuchenga909
@moreblessingkuchenga909 Жыл бұрын
Adam and eve are twin flames so what does that live Christianity????
@Victory987
@Victory987 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of becoming a sith lord and relocating to a Galaxy Far Far Away. Our reality sucks balls.
@md28stads
@md28stads 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, Dr. Grande makes me laugh so hard! Love this guy!
@crazymimi6061
@crazymimi6061 2 жыл бұрын
Apocalypse is a Greek word that means to remove the Vail. I find it funny the way modern society uses the word.
@annettiespaghettie
@annettiespaghettie 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr. Grande!! Just wanted to let you know you are fabulous and I love you and your videos!! I constantly recommend your videos to my friends, not only bc of your thorough nature, but bc of your sharp wit as well. I just graduated with my BS Paramedicine on Saturday 🤩🎓 wanted you to be proud of me
@bthomson
@bthomson 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!💐
@brentreid8228
@brentreid8228 2 жыл бұрын
Her books had some solid titles. Not going to lie
@cantfindmykeys
@cantfindmykeys 2 жыл бұрын
Well, there must be a reason that alcohol is also called "spirits". As for me, I'm allergic to alcohol. And to alcoholics. Wine, too. Wine makes you whine. 😕
@ndakhonabashingi5803
@ndakhonabashingi5803 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Dr Grande, can you analyse the case of Mariette Bosch, executed in Botswana in the early 2000s for murdering her lovers wife.
@partycat2921
@partycat2921 2 жыл бұрын
The is the most I've rolled my eyes during a Dr. Grande video. 7:30 and Marcel Marceau in her final years.
@sarahhartley2067
@sarahhartley2067 2 жыл бұрын
“I guess when looking in the lighting tube store, select the one that has impenetrable written on it, that’s the real deal” 😂😂😂
@abbynormal206
@abbynormal206 2 жыл бұрын
Can you research "People of Praise" and their possibility of being a religious cult within Christianity? Thank you.
@beeimaginative
@beeimaginative 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for requesting this analysis Abby. Would love to hear Dr. Grande’s take on this subject.
@wmelliott3802
@wmelliott3802 2 жыл бұрын
Great job Dr Grande, though I'd have liked her to have had an Alien Lizard friend ha ha.
@mysticbeastproductions6811
@mysticbeastproductions6811 2 жыл бұрын
I was an atheist until I had a mystical union 25 years ago. I believe this union was an actual evolutionary event in my cerebral cortex. Fortunately I am a reader and looked to the wisdom traditions for grounded guidance instead of the New Age Fakery. These awakenings can actually upset brain chemistry and that could lead the experiencer to accept the bizarre if not real careful. Stanislov Grof has a good book that helped me to regain an equilibrium called The Stormy Search For Self.
@mysticbeastproductions6811
@mysticbeastproductions6811 2 жыл бұрын
@@harryhanz1690 lol That' is something I would have said before my encounter with the Almighty.
@mirtacotto749
@mirtacotto749 2 жыл бұрын
@@harryhanz1690 🤣
@dianataylor8685
@dianataylor8685 Жыл бұрын
Excuse me?
@threestars2164
@threestars2164 7 ай бұрын
OMEGALUL
@MagnumInnominandum
@MagnumInnominandum 2 жыл бұрын
That you had to listen to Her speak for any length of time to prepare this piece, You have my condolences. That damned culty drone of hers.
@Kat-tr2ig
@Kat-tr2ig 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Since we're on the topic of cult leaders that (incorrectly) predicted the armageddon, you should do a video on Charles Taze Russel, the "founder" of the Jehovah's Witnesses. He was a real con artist
@GelatinousCube-jw8vg
@GelatinousCube-jw8vg 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to listen to you break down the investigation into the death of Lauren Agee. I know the case is a popular one amongst the true crime KZfaq community but nobody has your secret ingredient. In any case I’m looking forward to any upcoming videos you’ve got for us.keep up the great work.
@judyjudy51
@judyjudy51 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so interesting how lots of people & / or their families in the comments had contact with this cult.
@mdamewo
@mdamewo Жыл бұрын
God bless the Light in everyone! To all want to find TRUTH ❤
@sohailfaghihishirazi4376
@sohailfaghihishirazi4376 7 ай бұрын
Dear doctor these are your opinions. I respect both Elizabeth and Mark and I am grateful for their teaching. They are Ascended now and help. Dr Mahshid Faghihi Shirazi from Australia.💜
@hatuletoh
@hatuletoh 2 жыл бұрын
What's more of an oxymoron: christian science or new age teacher?
@Hayhayitsmaay
@Hayhayitsmaay 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how the bible accurately spoke of the earth turning on it's axis before we had any idea that was a thing 😁
@sarah2.017
@sarah2.017 2 жыл бұрын
The Christian Science religion has led to the premature deaths of a lot of people, including the mother of Metallica singer James Hetfield, who was raised in it. He once said, "If a deer knew how to fix a broken leg, it would."
@curdt79
@curdt79 2 жыл бұрын
I bring you peace and love - C. Montgomery Burns
@buttercatpaws9674
@buttercatpaws9674 2 жыл бұрын
Doc, it is 7 o'clock in the morning. I just fixed in on the 51%. I plan to get the violet light out today. I am gonna walk it baby As always, love ya Doc 🐈🐾❤️❤️
@statusdisarray9598
@statusdisarray9598 2 жыл бұрын
Have you done JZ Knight/ Ramtha? Yelm WA this was as usual excellent!
@Traderjoe
@Traderjoe 2 жыл бұрын
If I put a cotton swab too deeply in my ear, I also hear the ocean. Am I mystic?
@LDiamondz
@LDiamondz 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe. Consult you Magick 8 Ball, it'll give you the answer! lol. Good comment! 🤣
@iainholmes2735
@iainholmes2735 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis. Would love for the late rock star Marc Bolan to have a Dr Grande episode: struggling '60s wannabe poet/folk singer finally fulfills his dreams in '70s glam rock Britain, only for it to go wrong. Cheers as always.
@nealsandidge3951
@nealsandidge3951 2 жыл бұрын
Always interesting! Could you analyze the characters in "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf"? Thank you.
@Fourwedge
@Fourwedge 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe anybody would distrust or have no faith in our extremely effective world leaders!
@werstillnotfreedamit8701
@werstillnotfreedamit8701 4 ай бұрын
LOL 😅😂 GOVERN MENT MENTE MIND
@ZYX84
@ZYX84 2 жыл бұрын
🪁 Good evening Dr. Grand🌵e. 6:45 PM Ca.time. Looking forward to another fascinating analysis. Although I truly wish they were just a little bit longer, your voice makes me very calm somehow, maybe you can speak a lot slower,maybe maybe?Thanks you Dr. Grand🌵e.🪁🪁🪁
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