Six Family Members Murdered by Paranoid Daughter | Michele Anderson and Joseph McEnroe

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

9 ай бұрын

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@j.p.gonzalez9218
@j.p.gonzalez9218 9 ай бұрын
That side by side shot of this girl and Sarah Connor is just savage work by Dr Grande
@engineno953
@engineno953 4 ай бұрын
The resemblance is uncanny
@jeffreynicol8287
@jeffreynicol8287 9 ай бұрын
I can't believe the cops showed up at the gate, saw that it was locked, and just left. Such an unbelievable level of incompetence, truly out of this world.
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 9 ай бұрын
There are a lot of 911 calls that are mistakes, cops had nothing to go on. But yeah they should of had a look around.
@poopy-333
@poopy-333 8 ай бұрын
Its extremely common for police to mess up. A lot of serial killers get away from police being terrible at their jobs
@L0-R3Z
@L0-R3Z 5 ай бұрын
@@poopy-333 Cops want to be politicians or lawyers but don't have the IQs. That's why they are cops.
@scottdavidson526
@scottdavidson526 5 ай бұрын
That really shocked me. Unbelievable.
@scottdavidson526
@scottdavidson526 5 ай бұрын
​@poopy-333 The Zodiac Killer comes to mind. They could've had him when he murdered Ben Stein by the Presidio that night, but they got a description of a black man from dispatch.
@GrumpyMeow-Meow
@GrumpyMeow-Meow 9 ай бұрын
They had very weak excuses for killing the adults, but none at all for killing those two innocent little children. That’s a special kind of evil.
@camogrrl
@camogrrl 9 ай бұрын
The motive was to take out every HEIR. In case the will was written where the inheritance went to the grandchildren
@olgastoronto
@olgastoronto 9 ай бұрын
7:35 7:36
@olgastoronto
@olgastoronto 9 ай бұрын
16:35
@olgastoronto
@olgastoronto 9 ай бұрын
1 16:35 6:35 16:35 16:35 16:35
@olgastoronto
@olgastoronto 9 ай бұрын
16:35 16:35
@HaleysTusk
@HaleysTusk 9 ай бұрын
Whenever there are children involved in these summaries, I can't help but think about how terrified those two young toddlers were to see both their parents killed in front of them, then to see their aunt, someone they believed would protect them, watch as they too were killed....and around Christmas, when most children their age are excited by the wonder of the season... Horrible, horrible....
@stevemcraemanager7119
@stevemcraemanager7119 9 ай бұрын
Speaking of Jesus birthday nothing like a good scripture 1 Samuel 15: Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
@714arissa
@714arissa 9 ай бұрын
😮😮
@alicejaehne8107
@alicejaehne8107 9 ай бұрын
Zzz C zzz
@PeterShaw-ne1yq
@PeterShaw-ne1yq 9 ай бұрын
The court should have delivered her original request for 'termination' cause that is what she loved
@paperchasindude6578
@paperchasindude6578 9 ай бұрын
@@stevemcraemanager7119shut up
@chickman9793
@chickman9793 9 ай бұрын
She did not look like Linda Hamilton, however he decided not to “terminate “ the relationship. Nicely done Doc!
@MrEgofreak
@MrEgofreak 9 ай бұрын
I don't know about you buddy, but that part made me curious as to what the catfish photo looked like!
@hollymiranda0826
@hollymiranda0826 9 ай бұрын
@@MrEgofreakyes!
@rachaelb.
@rachaelb. 9 ай бұрын
I had accidentally called 911 and hung up, not knowing it went through. I was in a building that had a gated entrance with a tall chain-link fence. It was locked. The police arrived and physically climbed over the 9 foot tall fence (a male and female cop) and knocked on the door. I didn't hear them, so they yelled up at the window with a light and shined their flashlights into the room. I saw that and told them thank you for showing up and I was sorry for calling accidentally. Now that is awesome police assistance!!! Those police showed up and didn't bother climbing over their fence?? They could have caught those two douchebags in the act!!!!
@desertweasel6965
@desertweasel6965 9 ай бұрын
What if someone had you in there as a hostage making you tell the cops everything was ok? Did they have you come down and speak to them?
@boarchambault2387
@boarchambault2387 9 ай бұрын
And possibly could have saved one or more of the family members...
@MostillingestBboy
@MostillingestBboy 9 ай бұрын
@@desertweasel6965You can ask “what if” as much as you want, but the point is in this case the police did not do their do diligence. If they had gone over the fence and then the two murderers convinced them to leave without witnesses anything incriminating then maybe people wouldn’t have an issue or would be upset that they didn’t go in the home. We will never know though because they didn’t even try to enter the property.
@judithramirez9859
@judithramirez9859 9 ай бұрын
How do you “accidentally” call 911 and waste the cops time and money when there might be other emergencies,then play stupid.🙄Your a P.O.S
@catwrangla9027
@catwrangla9027 9 ай бұрын
Weird. Most times 911 simply calls back on a hang-up; done it myself.
@lilbitsleepy2574
@lilbitsleepy2574 9 ай бұрын
It often amazes me how sometimes the worst people for each other seem to find each other. Each of them bad enough on their own, but together enabling and supporting their worst traits.
@Blissfulnessence
@Blissfulnessence 9 ай бұрын
Though it's happened throughout history, it seems to have gotten worse with the advent of the internet
@stevemcraemanager7119
@stevemcraemanager7119 9 ай бұрын
They are the leftovers. Sane people run from them.
@camogrrl
@camogrrl 9 ай бұрын
“Follies aux deus” has been so well documented in history they even gave it a fancy name.
@CarolFremel-my4hs
@CarolFremel-my4hs 9 ай бұрын
Possibly because no decent person would have them
@lowbrowrodeo
@lowbrowrodeo 9 ай бұрын
Like attracts like
@makepeace234
@makepeace234 9 ай бұрын
Those side by side images of Linda Hamilton & Michele Anderson 😅😅😅
@nicole757
@nicole757 9 ай бұрын
dr. grande throws shade like no other 🥶🖤
@melska
@melska 4 күн бұрын
Don't tell me you saw any difference
@DavidDeeble
@DavidDeeble 9 ай бұрын
Why these two should be permitted to live is beyond me.
@darthsilversith667
@darthsilversith667 9 ай бұрын
We need to bring back public capital punishment with a vengeance and lower the qualifying threshold.. that is the only thing that really deters heinous crimes and crime in general. Public shaming needs to have its day again as well.. and natural selection has been robbed too.
@MimiRAM0NE
@MimiRAM0NE 9 ай бұрын
No reason. There is no prospect of rehabilitation and no point in waiting around for them to feel bad. Just take the trash out.
@1stdebunker
@1stdebunker 2 ай бұрын
Everyone faces Judgement eventually. Do not worry Lovely. Rest in Christ. Trust
@aprilcanipe2614
@aprilcanipe2614 9 ай бұрын
What could the kids have ever done? Nothing. Total beasts
@ericvulgate
@ericvulgate 9 ай бұрын
I tried to get Alabama police to check up on my sister who was in an abusive relationship. They wouldn't cross the 'gate'- A single chain one foot off the ground. I had to drive from Arizona to deal with the situation.
@evelynwaugh4053
@evelynwaugh4053 9 ай бұрын
That's weird. LE always does welfare checks when requested.
@hotsauce1646
@hotsauce1646 9 ай бұрын
Some people do halfjobs and sometimes these types are in positions that you can't have this type of attitude . And i am sad to say even in police work there are lazy a- holes . And this is a part of the sad truth . Sorry you had to deal with this .
@cady__
@cady__ 9 ай бұрын
I’ve found police won’t do that if you’re calling from another state. I tried to do it for someone and they said either someone in the house or someone who lived in the actual state they were in needed to call 😩
@vickinoeske1154
@vickinoeske1154 9 ай бұрын
There's almost no point in asking the police for a welfare check. If no one answers the door they just leave and never go back. They don't walk around the house or look in windows. The police are useless.
@evelynwaugh4053
@evelynwaugh4053 9 ай бұрын
@@cady__ Perhaps that varies. I have called from another state with good results. It might have something to do with your apparent credibility over the phone. There are lots of circumstances that warrant a welfare check, which might avert more serious problems for that law enforcement agency or prevent a situation. Most departments appreciate that. If you were an officer, you'd probably prefer to get someone medical help rather than discovering a 3 week old body down the line, so it's really in their best interest.
@shawnnewell4541
@shawnnewell4541 9 ай бұрын
Oh I remember this one. My cousins lived in Carnation and knew these people. This daughter was the perfect example of being entitled.
@kristyann9912
@kristyann9912 9 ай бұрын
She looks like she ate Sarah Conner.
@kathywright7395
@kathywright7395 9 ай бұрын
Awful. Those poor children and their parents. How horrible
@stevemcraemanager7119
@stevemcraemanager7119 9 ай бұрын
Keep that same energy. 1 Samuel 15:3 " Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."
@Allthekingshorses2
@Allthekingshorses2 9 ай бұрын
Well… i think the children were too young to know what was happening… at least i’d like to think so. It’s better than being terrified before the end!
@jenanne31
@jenanne31 9 ай бұрын
What a terrible story. Thanks for covering this case, Dr. Grande.
@Average_Internet_DMC_420
@Average_Internet_DMC_420 9 ай бұрын
terrible albeit interesting
@Average_Internet_DMC_420
@Average_Internet_DMC_420 9 ай бұрын
evidence that poor family dynamics and rough upbringing can bring people to resentment and eventually homicide
@belmum1689
@belmum1689 9 ай бұрын
​@@Average_Internet_DMC_420No they are both just evil
@eddiebingbong7977
@eddiebingbong7977 9 ай бұрын
I love the lord!! Oh lord I lord thee my lord shingleberry 11:4
@ponygirlusa
@ponygirlusa 9 ай бұрын
This was terrifying. We lived on our horse farm about 10 miles north of Carnation at the time and this insanity just didn't happen there. It was a bucolic area where many people had horses or cows and there were herds of wild elk. It's lush and green with the Snoqualmie River running through and the Tolt River not far away. On December 24, 2007 we had snow for Christmas. Murder came to visit that horrible Christmas day to our peaceful bit of paradise where there was never any violent crime. It was shattering to everyone. 💔
@laurenurban3942
@laurenurban3942 9 ай бұрын
Murder visits anywhere. Just because everyone has farms and horses, and Oh Susanna…..doesn’t mean that a town is immune to tragedy. Horrible things can happen anywhere involving all sorts of people. I know a murder that happened about 30 years ago in a wealthy horsey community. The husband killed his rich wife in the stable using a sledgehammer. He called the police and told them that her horse kicked her to death in a stall. The police quickly surmised that he was lying. The guy was convicted and sentenced to life. It can happen anywhere humans live. Be careful out there.
@janinemccartha1811
@janinemccartha1811 9 ай бұрын
Hi Dr. Grande. I hope they rot in jail & prison. Hope you are doing fine. Peace to you & yours, love, Janine Smiley😏🙂😀😍🤩🎵🎶🍉🍇🍊🍎🍑🍓🍍🍌☕🍩☕🍩
@skybluedreams77
@skybluedreams77 9 ай бұрын
I remember this case too, the evil daughter and her evil boyfriend murdered her own family. Very cruel and sad.
@crabofchaos7881
@crabofchaos7881 9 ай бұрын
You do you, but it's always beyond me how people use the word "evil", it's a tag word that can be applied as an opinion, and it'll immediately become charged. "Abortions are evil" and "Kenneth Copeland is evil" describe two completely different things, evil is in your perception, it just doesn't exist otherwise. "Psychopathic murderers" says much more about what they did and how.
@fnsdjkovnsdkvn
@fnsdjkovnsdkvn 9 ай бұрын
@@crabofchaos7881 nonsense
@eddiebingbong7977
@eddiebingbong7977 9 ай бұрын
@@crabofchaos7881I like you, you seem like you’re fun to be around.
@crabofchaos7881
@crabofchaos7881 9 ай бұрын
@@fnsdjkovnsdkvn how so? It's 3AM here when Dr. Grande's videos come out, so I'm not exactly the sharpest when I'm writing comments here. I understand that my thought sounds somewhat odd to you, so I'll be glad to hear your non-nonsense position.
@crabofchaos7881
@crabofchaos7881 9 ай бұрын
@@eddiebingbong7977 I appreciate it, even if you were being sarcastic.
@chewygal69
@chewygal69 9 ай бұрын
I really admire how you cover these true crime stories. You do them with such respect and clever humor.
@evandelgadillo
@evandelgadillo 9 ай бұрын
Ahh Todds humor is too funny once you start to really understand it. Has me LOL all the time.
@42words
@42words 9 ай бұрын
*_FunFact:_* at the 1:35 mark, we can observe Dr. Grande, with nothing but a simple application of some visual components, and letting the viewer internally juxtapose them against the old adage _"a picture is worth a thousand words,"_ being savage af *_FunFacts!_*
@dlc5166
@dlc5166 9 ай бұрын
More heart-wrenching family violence. I'm digging my heels in on "no contact" with a family member that's an on again/off again meth user who hears voices and talks to invisible friends. Tried to help a couple times but it's totally out of my league. Prayers for all the families suffering with drug and alcohol addicted relatives. I thought about commenting on how easy it seems to be to access a gun, but geez, I think these murderers would use anything they could find once they decide to kill.
@propheteyebert7063
@propheteyebert7063 9 ай бұрын
Get a gun.
@williambarringer6513
@williambarringer6513 9 ай бұрын
I watched a video of a guy make a perfect model 1911 in a hut in the jungle with no electricity, he had templates and files and hand tools and managed to make a perfectly functioning semiautomatic, the only thing he couldn’t do himself was the rifling in the barrel, which you only need for accuracy he could make a shotgun way easier, you can make a single shot “slam” gun out of conduit lol
@williambarringer6513
@williambarringer6513 9 ай бұрын
If you can make a potato gun, which we made plenty when I was a kid, you could make a slam gun it’s caveman tech lol
@muttlee9195
@muttlee9195 9 ай бұрын
Meth users will take you down avoid.
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 9 ай бұрын
@@muttlee9195 I didnt hear meth mentioned, but it was the first thing I thought of after listening to this story. Senseless idiotic death makes me think of meth. A friend's son terrorized his parents and anyone stupid enough to try to help him, he only robbed people he knew. Usually when they were at home. He was sort of ok till he went on a "meth run" which could go for days. Thankfully for everyone he got out of jail, got onto heroin and killed himself soon after with an overdose. He was making himself miserable with his life as well as everyone who knew him. He had cooked his brain on meth. No coming back.
@kimgilbert3605
@kimgilbert3605 9 ай бұрын
Absolute monsters. No excuse...them killing young children makes them evil and repulsive.
@louieo.blevinsmusic4197
@louieo.blevinsmusic4197 9 ай бұрын
He thought he was worthless and he was right. Those two children witnessing and then being murdered are beyond despicable. Hopefully he’s beaten every day behind bars and same goes for “skinny but muscular.” How did those kids “step on her” or how was he “protecting her” from them? Thankfully they were dumb as rocks and came right back to the scene.
@paintawaytheday420
@paintawaytheday420 9 ай бұрын
What the hell is wrong with the responding officers??? What if some of them were still alive? It took two more days before anyone found them. Those police should be held accountable.
@stt5v2002
@stt5v2002 9 ай бұрын
I have only glanced at the thumbnail, but my strong first impression is “ methamphetamine induced psychosis.” now I’m going to watch the video and see if I’m right.
@AnastasiaFafo
@AnastasiaFafo 9 ай бұрын
I'm horrified the police just drove away. What a horrific story.
@TheMattTrakker
@TheMattTrakker 9 ай бұрын
The, "they were rich and she was poor" entitled thinking sounds like waaaay too many younger people in this country.
@dlc5166
@dlc5166 9 ай бұрын
They tend to forget about the working part of life and actually enjoying work versus sitting around dreaming up schemes
@RR-kz4hq
@RR-kz4hq 9 ай бұрын
This is just ageism starting to grasp you stronger each day
@TheeGlocktopus
@TheeGlocktopus 2 ай бұрын
TAX AND EAT THE RICH TO PAY FOR US TO NOT HAVING TO WORK!
@TheOnlyKateslate
@TheOnlyKateslate 9 ай бұрын
This happened in the Greater Puget Sound Area, where I live. It's always so shocking to know that people who live near you are capable of such evil. Or that this type of evil exists at all.
@OzymandiasWasRight
@OzymandiasWasRight 9 ай бұрын
Yea Carnation is like an hour away from me. Violence happens everywhere but it still leaves a strange feeling it happened in a place I've driven by countless times.
@melangegirl
@melangegirl 9 ай бұрын
"By avoiding prison, they would have gotten married. Different paths, same destination." Love ya, Doc! LOL
@BigZebraCom
@BigZebraCom 9 ай бұрын
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about what could be happening when a McEnroe isn't preoccupied with screaming at a line judge like this.
@Moon_Metty
@Moon_Metty 9 ай бұрын
Only speculating? You can't be serious!!!
@BigZebraCom
@BigZebraCom 9 ай бұрын
​@@Moon_Metty😂 🦓
@gobackgina
@gobackgina 9 ай бұрын
If you are reading this and you are hurting heres a virtual hug for you 🤗 Please know that it is given from a place of kindness love and understanding❤
@srsusansummers3070
@srsusansummers3070 9 ай бұрын
@markwilliams3174
@markwilliams3174 9 ай бұрын
A shocking crime. Glad there was minimal attempts at humour by Dr Grande. Thank you for being respectful to those lost & aggrieved
@rejaneoliveira5019
@rejaneoliveira5019 9 ай бұрын
It’s beyond comprehension why someone would choose to finish their own family. Really tragic case. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, Dr. Grande.❤
@Seventh7Art
@Seventh7Art 9 ай бұрын
Literally speaking a psychopath is beyond comprehension and the etymology of the word explains it: psyche is Greek for soul = spirit =mind. path-ology derives from pathy - pathos meaning passion in a bad way, suffering etc. So psychopathy is literally a soul / spirit (in this context a mind = brain) that suffers patho-logically. Psycho killers cannot be cured, unless brain transplants become a reality.
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 9 ай бұрын
Sometimes people kill people that deserve it. If it happened to my parents I would care one iota
@Allthekingshorses2
@Allthekingshorses2 9 ай бұрын
@@jhoughjr1yikes, bud… you probably should get some help…
@OzymandiasWasRight
@OzymandiasWasRight 9 ай бұрын
​@@jhoughjr1you would care exactly one iota?
@BetaBuxDelux
@BetaBuxDelux 9 ай бұрын
@@OzymandiasWasRightOddly specific, I’d say.
@manewland1
@manewland1 9 ай бұрын
A fine analysis of a horrible case/situation (I fail to understand how the two children could be considered any kind of threat/dangerous in any way). Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande.
@rbarba2751
@rbarba2751 9 ай бұрын
Agree! Dr Grande got the goods 💯👌🏾
@Theslimslayer
@Theslimslayer 9 ай бұрын
Dr. Grande’s sarcastic summaries are not only hilarious, but really do a great job of explaining what leads to his diagnosis . Awesome content
@Missglam67
@Missglam67 9 ай бұрын
Reminds me of another case of an entitled adult child that murdered his parents. Guy Joel Jr.
@SinclairPoppins
@SinclairPoppins 9 ай бұрын
She wrapped all the gifts with great spirit and care, Cleaning all of the leftover blood, bone, and hair.
@jedsall00
@jedsall00 9 ай бұрын
We're not going to make it are we? Humans, I mean.
@srsusansummers3070
@srsusansummers3070 9 ай бұрын
At this point, only the second coming of Jesus is going to help
@madwhitehare3635
@madwhitehare3635 9 ай бұрын
@@srsusansummers3070...not long now, thank the Lord.
@melska
@melska 4 күн бұрын
We never stood a chance, it is what it is
@melska
@melska 4 күн бұрын
We never stood a chance, it is what it is
@m.f.richardson1602
@m.f.richardson1602 9 ай бұрын
Always interesting. Another good reason for Me to say home a lot. People are getting weirder and weirder. Thank you Peace 💕🇺🇲
@joytrujillo9447
@joytrujillo9447 9 ай бұрын
Beyond words other than tragic and heartbreaking.
@dorotaszupina6862
@dorotaszupina6862 9 ай бұрын
No easy way out
@stinkinlinkn7117
@stinkinlinkn7117 9 ай бұрын
It’s a fact that when you are heavily involved with someone with schizophrenic symptoms, you will take on such symptoms as well without having any mental illness, ie: family members, health Carrie professionals in a psychiatric ward, partners and unfortunately cult leaders. This man could’ve been influenced by her mental illness. It’s impossible to say he was or wasn’t since science and facts are to play in this scenario
@charlesxavier3489
@charlesxavier3489 9 ай бұрын
💯
@milagrosmendez77
@milagrosmendez77 9 ай бұрын
Poor kids and the rest of the family as well. Love your analysis in every case you bring to us. Thank you
@nooraoraha9294
@nooraoraha9294 9 ай бұрын
This is such a heartbreaking case
@rachaelcox4104
@rachaelcox4104 9 ай бұрын
Killing anyone is absolutely disgusting. Killing children should be automatic torture until the perpetrator is killed. But not only were they children. Those were her niece and nephew? Am I getting that correct? I couldn't imagine.
@SOULRELIEF22
@SOULRELIEF22 9 ай бұрын
If only those in favor of abortion knew how disgusting this is. Torture is not what GOD says... "WHOSO SHEDDETH MAN'S BLOOD, BY MAN SHALL HIS BLOOD BE SHED: FOR IN THE IMAGE OF GOD MADE HE MAN." GENESIS 9:6!
@sylvia7867
@sylvia7867 9 ай бұрын
I believe in god but I’d give him a chance to forgive me as I believe in vengeance too 🔪 a few years in purgatory would be character building 🧌
@rachaelcox4104
@rachaelcox4104 9 ай бұрын
@@sylvia7867 right..God would forgive us for that one
@cheryljohnson866
@cheryljohnson866 9 ай бұрын
Tragic story, but well narrated and excellent instruction in disorder types; Thank you.
@MitchBanks-fu6iy
@MitchBanks-fu6iy 9 ай бұрын
She said she looked like Linda Hamelton?🤔😵‍💫😵💀🤣🤣🤣
@privateuser3859
@privateuser3859 8 ай бұрын
I feel so guilty...such tragic, dire cases and I laugh at Dr. Grande's droll humour (I love it) every single time.
@crazycampers5655
@crazycampers5655 9 ай бұрын
Dr Grande, you are always so interesting! Your insertion of humor and analysis of the story keeps me captivated. I guess that is one of the ways you keep your sanity in this crazy world!
@laurenurban3942
@laurenurban3942 9 ай бұрын
Love the humor.
@sirrenn1936
@sirrenn1936 9 ай бұрын
I have a family member that hears voices, but hey they don't have a problem, everyone else is the problem, it's very hard to deal with, I feel like I've been hugged by a cactus every time I'm around them. And they r always right about everything, no matter what it is.
@wap9137
@wap9137 9 ай бұрын
Rational thinking doesnt work on delusions or paranoia.
@CarolFremel-my4hs
@CarolFremel-my4hs 9 ай бұрын
Don’t get too close
@josepimentel5687
@josepimentel5687 9 ай бұрын
Bipolar disorder ? Schizophrenia?
@ellis7622
@ellis7622 9 ай бұрын
I knew exactly what case it was as soon as I saw the thumbnail. This will always be one of the most upsetting cases for me. Just incomprehensibly evil.
@wendiwonderly1419
@wendiwonderly1419 9 ай бұрын
Be careful who you meet online. Would either of these two people have done this without the other?
@shantishanti1949
@shantishanti1949 9 ай бұрын
What a disgrace that the police failed to respond... I hope the officers who did not investigate because of the locked gate rethink their roles in the Police force.
@user-vx2yo4dm6h
@user-vx2yo4dm6h 9 ай бұрын
I really don't know what to think about this. I've seen a lot of videos about how someone who was totally dependent on somebody and living with them... was suddenly going to be thrown out the door with no warning... and in those cases they murdered whoever they were living with. This smacks of that. I have an aunt who did the same thing to her daughter - when she was just out of high school - and she was going to charge her for rent and utilities like that, and I don't know if she even had a job. She ended up getting married soon afterwards and moving in with her husband. Michelle didn't have a job when her parents were demanding she pay rent and utilities, although her boyfriend did, but it sounds like they were dirt poor. Did Michelle expect to just live there without ever having to get a job, and let her parents essentially pay all their utilities? I don't know. But it's really sad they murdered her parents, and her brother's whole family, including his children. I really wonder about her boyfriend's role, since he actually murdered them. Michelle did want to die afterwards, although she let her attorney talk her into letting him try to keep her from getting the death penalty. This is really tragic. I have a feeling it was a giant mistake for Michelle to let her boyfriend move in. But I don't know the reality. We know her parents were trying to help her, buying her groceries, and allowing her to live in a trailer on their property without having to pay rent and utilities for a while. That demonstrates they really went all out to help her. It's unbelievable they murdered them. That's how her parents were repaid after doing all of that. And it seems pretty petty for them to murder her brother and his whole family because he owed her some money. I think that's the clue that both of them really do deserve the death penalty, especially since they murdered the little kids. That is very hard to believe and impossible to excuse.
@nathanplumb3782
@nathanplumb3782 9 ай бұрын
I’ve seen cops do anything they possibly can to look into houses for under age drinker because of noose complaints. I wonder if these cops would have tried a little harder to see what was going on if it was to make a non violent drug arrest.
@gabriellemadrid2831
@gabriellemadrid2831 9 ай бұрын
"Terminated" the relationship... 😂 We see you Dr Grande!
@sngray11
@sngray11 9 ай бұрын
I was already familiar with this heartbreaking case, but I always appreciate your analysis.
@helpyourcattodrive
@helpyourcattodrive 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering all of these interesting cases for us, Dr. Grande. ❤ Your perspective is valuable to us.❤ We appreciate you.
@knutholt3486
@knutholt3486 9 ай бұрын
She clearly had a disorder that involved a tendency for agression, tendensy for exaggerated suspicion and lack of ability to find solusions for her bad living conditions. But what such a disorder lead to, is highly dependent upon her experiences in young age. I think it is true that her parents favoured other members of the family and disfavoured her, and kept her down. Possibly also other parts of society did the same to her. The thurst for revenge combined with her disorder lead to her actions. Her boyfriend possibly had a similar history. Without the disorder she would have revenged in a more appropriaate way without killing and destroying her own life. Without bad experiences with family and society her dissorder had not lead to such consequences either.
@IamPinhead
@IamPinhead 7 ай бұрын
"The word rhymes with grass, and holes, combined" Something about this delivery really did it for me
@Revolver1701
@Revolver1701 9 ай бұрын
She deserves to be punished for claiming that she looked like Linda Hamilton.
@lavendula6759
@lavendula6759 9 ай бұрын
Omg the Lil humor slights - needed thank you Dr Grande
@mitragolab8905
@mitragolab8905 9 ай бұрын
When you the photos side by side to compare her and Linda Hamilton was priceless 😂😂😂
@Aktoto1
@Aktoto1 9 ай бұрын
The blank rhymes with the word grass and holes combined. Lol Dr. is just the best.
@twentyrothmans7308
@twentyrothmans7308 9 ай бұрын
I had just taken a swig of my drink when you mentioned that she said that she looked like Sarah Connor. It's now on my lap. The drink, not Sarah Connor. I'm only speculating about what could have happened in a situation like this, but I'm guessing that Michelle didn't do this so she could eat all the salad in the refrigerator. Perhaps she wanted a planet named after her, so she became the size of one. Despicable people.
@Vonononie
@Vonononie 9 ай бұрын
1:40 side-by-side photos 😂
@HolyMoly432
@HolyMoly432 9 ай бұрын
So heartbreaking!!!! Especially for the beautiful innocent children!!!💔😭
@americo_san
@americo_san 9 ай бұрын
This case made me remember a shocking similar one, in Brazil. The Suzane Richthofen's family, in Oct 31st, 2002.
@gabrielesablotny783
@gabrielesablotny783 9 ай бұрын
....Linda Hamilton ??? ...lol😂
@Flamsterette
@Flamsterette 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the upload on International Correct Everyone's Grammar, Spelling, and Punctuation Day 2023, Dr. Grande!
@vickinoeske1154
@vickinoeske1154 9 ай бұрын
I'm both angered and disgusted by these murders. Such an unnecessary crime. Who could shoot small children?
@angievincent3416
@angievincent3416 9 ай бұрын
Especially her own niece and nephew!
@renee1961
@renee1961 9 ай бұрын
How Absolutely Wicked to Murder her entire Family!! Utterly Cold-blooded, and Cruel! Prayers for the Family How Terrifying for the Family! 💔💔💔💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
@Mudpuppy9722
@Mudpuppy9722 9 ай бұрын
I'm really diggin' your videos. Your dry humor cracks me up. Thanks for entertaining us with your educated take on these evil doers.
@dontblockthebox
@dontblockthebox 9 ай бұрын
Grande is the man!
@wiseauserious8750
@wiseauserious8750 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, if Sarah Connor gave up on stopping Skynet and gained 200 lb, then started using meth and lost 75 of those pounds
@polskiziemniak9776
@polskiziemniak9776 9 ай бұрын
"Joseph decided not to terminate the relationship".. I just can't..I know it's all not funny but I just can't stop laughing.
@LaniLanilei
@LaniLanilei 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering this case ❤
@ad6417
@ad6417 9 ай бұрын
All narcissists are delusional.
@dianemorton2222
@dianemorton2222 9 ай бұрын
This is a shocking story.
@MarciaBaker1205
@MarciaBaker1205 9 ай бұрын
I received your book, The Psychology of Notorious Serial Killers No. 1 I'm looking forward to reading it!
@flavioa6351
@flavioa6351 9 ай бұрын
Executing 2 little kids is about as heartless as it gets . Straight death penalty
@BB-dk3fd
@BB-dk3fd 9 ай бұрын
This is high-level wickedness 😢 And the police left the promise because the gate was locked eshi😢😢
@JBoo
@JBoo 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely love your calm demeanor despite what the subject is
@plops993
@plops993 9 ай бұрын
“Joseph told people he was worthless”….,hey at least he was self-aware, because he was worthless, and so was his gf
@anonymousstrangeness7348
@anonymousstrangeness7348 9 ай бұрын
Hello, Doctor Grande !!! So happy to see you, I'm starting the video right now, just got home from the grocery store 😀 👍
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 9 ай бұрын
This is beyond evil. How can people do this esp on Christmas Eve?🎄😌Terrible police work too. Excellent analysis again. Thanks Dr G💚💚
@Katie-vy5rd
@Katie-vy5rd 9 ай бұрын
At this point .. it doesn't really matter what day its on..
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 9 ай бұрын
@@Katie-vy5rd What is your point beyond to argue? Yes it DOES matter. The rest of the family will have that association with that holiday on top of the grief. I'd bet by your flippant comment you're young & haven't been thru many tragedies or losses.
@Katie-vy5rd
@Katie-vy5rd 9 ай бұрын
@@zenawarrior7442 i meant it like its so catastrophic so heinous so tragic... that the damage is done. But you are certainly right about the date being significant to others ... if someone blew my grandchilds head off., sounds bad but thats exactly what they did, both kids, the parents and the rest of the family , epic sorrow on the daily.. i wasn't arguing ,still not, but it'd be like Jeffrey Dahmer cannibalizing a relative or friend.... not sure it would matter which day to me, personally . But you aree right it may be even worse, for some, to be on a holiday. .. the later part of your comment is very inaccurate.. not sure it matters, my age or my trials and tribulations or lack of...
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 9 ай бұрын
@@Katie-vy5rd Yes I know what you meant. It just came across sarcastic. For some holidays are tragic or depressing let alone having a murder happen on a big holiday. RE last part, it was just a guess as sometimes younger generations are so uncaring or argumentative on YB. When you have major losses you remember the date forever. Christmas Eve would be impossible to forget I feel. OK if you weren't arguing my apology.
@Katie-vy5rd
@Katie-vy5rd 9 ай бұрын
@@zenawarrior7442 no worries, I'm so old though i forgot why I had started to reply or just wasn't very good at relaying my thoughts because I rarely do on this forum.. but my thought was- people like the murderers don't care what day its on and sadistic people probably enjoy seeing the suffering, they just don't reason well.. which you know this too.. horrible hope they can heal some I know it would have aent me over😓..
@maryannanderson2213
@maryannanderson2213 9 ай бұрын
I have had a "tense" relationship with some of my family members for DECADES but it has never once entered my mind to do them any harm. This woman is a special kind of evil to be responsible for the end of six of her family members, including two children. I'm glad she is in prison for life!
@mysteryneophyte
@mysteryneophyte 9 ай бұрын
It makes me so sad that they killed those Little kids too, The whole thing is absolutely terrible, but I can’t even imagine the fear there’s little kids must’ve felt.
@annettehellingrath8288
@annettehellingrath8288 3 ай бұрын
It's amazing what a mess people can make of their lives. After watching about ten of your videos this evening I am amazed by how many people are able to find someone to help them commit murder, or help them to dispose of the remains after a murder. Do these people find each other somehow? If you are not adverse to murder can you see that 'quality' in someone else? Scary stuff!
@renee1961
@renee1961 9 ай бұрын
Hello, Dr. Grande! I hope you're enjoying your evening! Thank You for sharing! I really appreciate your thoughts on these Cases. And I love your sense of humor!
@PastellAntiiTheistt
@PastellAntiiTheistt 9 ай бұрын
The shade when you showed the picture by picture comparison... "Muscular but thin".. 🤣💀
@gerry2345
@gerry2345 9 ай бұрын
I like this vid. Good insight and great analysis.
@elizabethwarman9028
@elizabethwarman9028 9 ай бұрын
Good evening Dr Grande, excellent analysis. As always I learn something new from your videos
@Gizathecat2
@Gizathecat2 9 ай бұрын
This was a very big story here in the Seattle area back in 2007. My husband’s daughter and Michelle were friends in elementary school and needless to say “Susan” was was frightened and torn up by what her old friend had become.
@Koozomec
@Koozomec 9 ай бұрын
Getting removed by people like that is like getting injured by a Reliant Robin. Tragic and so casually evil. Thank you for covering this story Mister Grande.
@eddiedantes7732
@eddiedantes7732 8 ай бұрын
Dr. Todd, you seem very adept in your field. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@greendragon4058
@greendragon4058 9 ай бұрын
Holy Chrysler I have not heard of this case thanks so much for covering it how terrible
@stephanieparker1250
@stephanieparker1250 4 ай бұрын
I can’t even imagine walking into that home and see those bodies.. and the babies.. that has to seriously mess someone up.
@rayross997
@rayross997 9 ай бұрын
Suggesting the Sam & Marilyn Sheppard case. Thanks Dr. Grande.
@roxannespahr2804
@roxannespahr2804 9 ай бұрын
It sure is scary that we all live in the same world with people as heartless as these two. Luckily I didn't grow up in a dysfunctional home. I cannot imagine how hard that would be for children. That doesn't give anyone the right to grow up and kill anyone though. If only everyone on Earth possessed the qualities Dr. Grande has, there would be no idiots left, people would think before they act, crime would become obsolete and everyone would own adorable cactuses 🌵🌵 The world would be a better place, one cactus at a time 😂 ❤️
@rbarba2751
@rbarba2751 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Dr 👌🏾 I respect and love you so much.
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