ill be there. gotta follow the man who got me into magic years ago

I like when he calls us fam and uses the blow horn sound effects

The self aware boomer is a great one i prof's version

I don't even play Magic. I just like this mans enthusiasm which is why I watch

Woahhh is that a really good magic the gathering youtuber commenting on a video of a really good magic the gathering youtuber?

I was so confused with my first precon "dungeons of the death" as a new player it was a lot of information to keep up with

my fave KZfaqr commenting on my fave Professor 😮

@@GridRivers You're my favorite commenter, commenting on my favorite youtuber, who is commenting on my favorite professor.

@@nathancarlk no, YOU'RE my favorite commenter. lol. still waiting for trinket mage's new vid 😢

Such an amazingly fun deck. It can actually hold up against that Dino Precon quite nicely. Honestly Lost Caverns precons, chef's kiss.

I'm surprised it's not complained about more! when I play against it it's like I'm just watching someone else play Magic

@@dawkks I watched "Friend A" play the precon against "Friend B" using normal EDH decks and the precon won all 4 games they played. "Friend B" got more and more frustrated and kept switching to stronger and stronger decks. It was pretty funny to watch. Now of course that's not the best judge of power level because they were 1-v-1 games, but I still feel like that says SOMETHING. "Friend B" is a good player so it's not like it was mismatched skill-wise.

I played Explorers for my first ever commander game straight out of the box and didn't take a single hit. Had it not been for an infinite mill combo the one opponent played, I had it won. Since then, I've upgraded the deck, and in the same Pod, my Merfolk deck is considered "God Tier" now! It's my favorite deck!

I love the Merfolk deck. It’s surprising how fast it can come back from board wipes too

I play with a group of four, and 1 of them uses mutant menace, and he never wins. It does a lot but two slow and vulnerable. Rads' usual benefit all our decks as well

@jasonlove4145 Imma be 100 with you, I think that's a pilot plus pod problem. I never stutter or am slow with mothman. I'm swinging with a 12/12 commander in the air on turn 4. If that's too slow, that guy needs a deck more appropriate to the pod because it sounds like you guys are too fast. Or he just isn't aggressive. Also important to realize that the video topic is "most powerful reconstructed.... decks..." Are you comparing it unadulterated precons?

Combine Bloodchief ascension and mind crank, it’s an infinite trigger combo that will one shot everyone unless someone removes mind crank. Moth man is a beast with a few ramp upgrades, extra milling enchantments etc. I once had my moth at 16/16 flying and with swift foot boots. Terrifying.! Haha

@@bumblebflame99 I agree in 4 pods on spell table I went head to head with a moth man precon i played necron precon and a dog meat precon was there and a hakbal... hakbal and dogmeat flopped doing nothing i went head to head with mothman and had to get whatever help from the other 2//// and mothman was a 16/16 in 3 turns after coming back out 3-4 times... mothman is lethal.

the problem is that the main gameplan of that deck is wayyyyy too televised whether it be the counters or mill and people HATE being milled so you get extra targeted

Definitively think the Ixalan decks were pretty strong to be omitted entirely: while I have fairly limited experience playing against a timey wimey precon (I only know one player that runs it and ran it maybe 3 or 4 times before doing pretty substantial upgrades to it) it was certainly doing a lot of things on it's turn but was never able to actually close out any games at all: definitively weaker than the Dinos or Merfolks from Ixalan for sure.

That Dino precon comes with Akromas will, if that's not precon power creep idk what is.

Burakos is definitely better. Especially when paired with card draw background.

I've a friend who plays the merfolk deck and it's not as strong as you think. Especially when those counters start to stack you basically aggro the whole board and get wiped constantly with not much to stop it.

Hard agree that both Ixalan' Dino, and Merfolk both outpace timey wimey

I switched out the face Commander to Durnan and the Passionate Archaeologist background, and it's amazing for the tick damage you get to do. High cost commander combo, but well worth it, especially when people forget about you in 4+ player tables.

It is well worth the price at the time imo. Such a good precon

I expected this one aswel

I expected ths one also, I carry 5 precons with me and this is my go to one to play.

Same. Maybe he didn‘t include it because Party Time was already in the list?

I'm surprised not to see that deck here

My friend has that deck and has beat us with it quite a few times, it's really strong!

A friend of mine changed like 5 or 6 cards on that deck and it still often destroys our pod of in theory more optimized decks.

I was shocked not to see that top the list. I have most of the others listed including number 1 but Riders of Rohan is such a good aggressive deck it would probably top my list. Another non-UB one I thought was very strong was the Merfolk one from LCI but I know the dinosaur one was supposed to be great too and I haven't played with or against that one.

It's cheap too. Like half the price of he Fallout Mutant deck. It's also not sold out everywhere

Yeah, both of those decks are busted. Especially Reap the Tides. I was lucky enough to snag a deck back when it was $20.

I had exactly this experience the other night. Was playing my caesar brew and sneezed out 72 spirits and bro still solitaired for a solid 8 minutes even though the entire table knows his board wipes and removal are all in the graveyard or exiled at this point.

Literally just experienced that and boy oh wow that was painful lol I am looking for ways to make commander faster and instead it gets slower and slower.

This precon is quite possibly the worst I've ever seen. I've played 3 different people who played with it fresh out the box. Straight up 10-15 minute turns of then playing solitaire. I will never play against someone who plays this precon. It is straight up that annoying.

If you upgrade the deck it can combo turn 3-4 without expensive mana rocks. I would rather face it as a precon rather than upgraded, I have it and it destroys CEDH tables without using expensive mana rocks, seriously considering buying them so I can combo turn 1.

You got a decklist? I have the precon and am looking to upgrade it. ​@@NyahBoyOwO

Cry more

@@jgarb1Shut yo ass up

@@jgarb1 what???

My girlfriend randomly bought me dinos for my birthday and it turned out to be one of the strongest decks I own. Just played a game with it last night. Ended the game with ghalta cheated out 7 dinos from my hand had a Dino that creates a token for how much trample damage you do. Nex turn I had a 29 29 token and finished everyone at the table next turn.

Yeah I'm surprised that wasn't mentioned. I feel it's consistently a powerhouse, so much that my playgroup banned it when we did a precon league.

Upgraded cavalry charge really plays well.

yes, it plays well but works better when focused on a single strategy as opposed to attempting to cover all bases (protection, draw, countering spells, aggro)

Got back into magic last year and played edh for the time with this deck! Knights are my favorite! Always looking for new knights cards each set to make it better!

Came here to say this exact thing, deck with minor upgrades will hang at most tables that aren't super high power

Cavalry Charge is by far one of my go to favorite precons. The mana base is kind of crap, and some of the creatures are just too expensive for what they bring, but it works so well for what you're doing with the deck anyways. If you don't draw into any creatures, you can just pitch any of the tap lands you have instead due to the deck running too many lands anyways. It's also a great counter to the Mutan deck from Fallout that everyone who was running precons at my LGS was using when it was new. I've been putting cards off to the side to upgrade it for a while now, but I've been somewhat putting it off because the deck works well enough as it is.

It should be more than an honorable mention. Pretty confident it wrecks the Eldrazi deck.

20 taplands out of 37 lands total. That was to make it not stomp every other C17 deck. Same with Arahbo (C17) and Aminatou (C18).

Wasn't that great. Edgar is just a powerhouse in it of itself

It is the most expensive precon AFAIK if that's any consolation (it's not)

Edgar is great, but the deck out of the box wasn't that impressive. Needed a lot of tuning. Still great but nowadays it's like 300, buy the eldrazi deck instead. It's less money and way stronger.

Mark is good, his deck... well still has captivating vampire.

Yes! I bought it and it's undefeated yet with no upgrades and a lot of the people I play with love to build competitive decks. The deck is nuts.

This. Now, all the players just bands together from turn 1. Hence why my Dhiada is still my stronger deck. Always get them by surprise.

Well On the bright side we might be in a new era of eldrazi

Same, played that on and old xbox.

mind flayarrs is deceptively good. People always being like "lulW horror tribal, thats cute man. And the commander looks like davy jones, thats NEAT" and then the 40 buck precons proceeds to beat them up with their own wincons that each cost more then the deck itself xD

Sounds good! Can you recommend which cards are the best upgrades? What is your main strategy when running this deck? Thanks!

@@matiasbre Huh well, I love to make tons of tokens, I'm really focused on that. So "Anointed Procession" and/or "Mondrak, Glory Dominus" is a must in the deck, "Oltec Matterweaver" is an excellent card in the same vein printed recently. The other way is abusing cards by bringing them back from exile. For that, you can: -Use "Karn, The Great Creator " minus ability -Use "Pull from Eternity", which can be Imprinted on "Isochron Scepter" to use it multiple times Also here are some fun interactions Osgir has with a few cards: -Artifact lands can tap for mana to activate Osgir's sac outlet to sac the land itself, then you can tap Osgir x=0 to make tokens of your artifact lands (Again, if you have ways to makes more tokens, congrats you have nigh infinite lands) -You can cast a "Sol Ring", tap it to float 2 mana. Use 1 to the sac outlet targeting your Ring and the other to tap Osgir x=1, making 2 "Sol Ring" tokens. Thus, by casting a Ring for 1 mana, you now made 4 mana (Again, token shenanigan here) Obviously, this deck loves tutor effect that puts stuff in the grave, take "Reckless Handling" and "Goblin Engineer" as decent examples. Another thing with the deck is since you are playing a lot with the grave, you basically instantly come back from most boardwipes (well not "Farewell"...) In the end, once you have enough doubled mana rocks and value engines, you can start duplicating some big hitters ("Bronze Guardian", "Triplicate Titant", "Myr Battlesphere" and "Hellkite Igniter" are all in the precon from the start, but really let your imagination go wild... *cough cough* Blightsteel Colossus *cough*) and using lands such as "Slayers' Stronghold" and "Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion", as well as your beloved Osgir's sac outlet to boost said threats. Again, most of what is discussed here is using mostly the unmodified precon as I like the power-level I have reached with it, but this is a deck which can certainly go crazy and abuse some busted artifacts to do infinite combos (if that is to your liking, of course) I'd just like to finish by recommanding to go see Prof's video on the place of Lorehold in the game of Magic and how it completely shifted our view of the red-white combination (video here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jriDgNunqquZn6s.htmlsi=D7KBwX41BS4v0M3N) Hopefully, this was... helpful? haha

@@matiasbre so I tried to reply to you with a whole dissertation about Osgir but my reply got deleted:') Real fun... But if I can summarize it, go check out Prof's video on the subject of Lorehold. It's what inspired me to buy the deck and keep working on it to this day. Hopefully this helps:) and doesn't get this reply removed...

It has maybe one win con (Tangletrove Kelp), a commander with no evasion and a second commander with no connection to the deck itself. You're probably better running Chulaine for the occasional free value because you are not going to kill anyone for commander damage with Morska. The deck durdles around a lot and that gives off the impression of being strong.

@@pascalsimioli6777 Probably lol. Tbf I usually just like to durdle in commander anyway, so there's probably some bias there.

@@poli6570 Deck has Koma, that alone can win you games. lol

You can easily make 8 clues and just win with mechanized production

So honestly, the problem with Deep Clue Sea is that it wants to be a Clue deck, but it also just wants Tokens in general. It's gameplan is a little bit too slow, and it comes with little in the way of protection. I'm okay with that because I wanted a clue deck, so I still got what I paid for. I even got to throw in some detectives to fit the theme of the deck, and it meshes well with the best cards in it. But it just struggles too much against aggressive decks.

As a new player I won´t buy one of the top 3 drecks. The precons of Brother´s War and Dr. Who are just too complicated for new players, who aren´t familiar with the game. Eldrazi Unbound is just too expensive, since it got the CMM "Premium" pricing. I think Baldurs Gate, Lost Caverns of Ixalan and maybe Karlov Manor would be the go to sets for cheap but powerful decks. The merfolk explore deck has many triggers to keep track of but its quite powerful out of the box. The Pantlaza deck (if it is reasonable priced) needs some work with creatures (all the Ghaltas and sick Etali), in the manabase/ramp (slow lands, bond lands, check lands, maybe forest shocks and some forest fetchers) and a new helm (Gishath or Zacama) but it is a good base to do upgrades.

Honestly, probably the strongest deck I have. The only thing that stops me from playing it often is how many enchantment triggers there are. My friends prefer the games to be more fast-paced, so they'll often zone out on my turns with the deck.

My main issue is that it is very durdley. Great at gaining life, not great at closing games out.

If you run Merry and Pippin as the commanders I agree. Having an overrun effect on your commander is powerful.

I got it to be my stock precon, and love it. And I won with it last week against a pod I had no business even playing it in! I'm about to start upgrading it, and am debating what direction to lean into. New Capenna themed? Legends? Reanimator? Nostalgia? I'll probably just go with generic upgrades at first.

@@erfunk henzie is awesome out of the box! It’s just a super strong strategy. Personally, I’d recommend putting in a couple reanimation piece like rise of the witch king and persist and illicit masquerade (illicit masquerade is AWESOME in this deck and I still can’t believe it’s like $0.50), as well as just some good beaters like gruff triplets and bloodbraid elf and vindictive lich. Riveteers ascendency is also an automatic upgrade

Henzie is great. I play an all creature version I call Henzie's Hoard, such a fun silly deck ;p

yeah, I'm kinda surprised it didn't get a shoutout here the combination of ramp and card advantage on prosper is just so solid and the deck was really hot out of the box

Mishra’s precon is sooo solid. I have upgraded it slightly and it’s such a beast. Not to mention it was almost hard to upgrade and remove anything from it lol

I made a ton of upgrades to mine but it's easily my current favorite to play. I run it with a mill sub-theme and there are so many ridiculous lines of play, it's actually an embarrassment of riches. I've just ordered another Cyclonic Rift to add to it, but honestly? It's overkill LOL

Which ones perform the best that you’ve found ?

I personally think Science is a better deck, but the Mothman is pretty good. It's just hard to deal with a cheap 8/8 robot, a deck with amazing synergy, and board wipe resistance in one precon.

Yeah I was thinking of less famous dynasty names like chernovokh, nihilakh, and the Catan names like mephet'ran, I feel like it's an old meme at this point to act confused on how to read them. It's not like you're reading actual Egyptian.

what upgrades? got a link?

Imo its not. cEDH requires expensive fast mana, tutors and such, not just the combos. You can however buy all the 2 card combo pieces for 5 bucks and just pubstomp casual tables for cheap xD

As a returning player from long ago and total commander newbie, I find it very powerful and therefore for me, a slow one to pilot lol I love it! There's so much synergy it's helping me be better at remembering triggers because it doesn't take long to build up many of them

@@gomblescards like Twisted Fealty, Cerulean Wisps and Refocus can be used to untap Stella and go infinite with two cards (after casting 3 spells). Add some 0 mana spells to the deck (to cast 3 easily and trigger Stella’s copy ability) and you have a good cEDH level deck.

@@ich3730I was able to pull a win by turn 3 with it. Quickest win I’ve ever accomplished. With the right initial hand, it could probably pull a turn 2 or even turn 1 win. (Twisted Fealty, three 0 mana spells, some mana ramp, cast 2 spells, cast Stella, go infinite with Twisted Fealty and Stella combo).