Tom Aspinall: "Heavyweight MMA has different RULES"👊🗯️🤨

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@albertoamoruso7711
@albertoamoruso7711 24 күн бұрын
This is why DC saying he has to "play hard" when scrambling with Islam is so fucking impressive
@fgc1850
@fgc1850 23 күн бұрын
He still plays, he doesnt go for real
@albertoamoruso7711
@albertoamoruso7711 23 күн бұрын
@@fgc1850 He literally says he goes 100% with Islam kzfaq.info-wYL3ufsgEs?si=tV61whYnT9M12dKB
@GaryCooper12
@GaryCooper12 23 күн бұрын
Key word here - “play” DC plays with khabib and Islam. There’s a massive gap there
@albertoamoruso7711
@albertoamoruso7711 23 күн бұрын
@@GaryCooper12 He literally said "and next I'm grappling at 100% because he's that frickin strong" youtube. com/shorts/-wYL3ufsgEs?si=o_Y8YG3JU5z6dfyO
@Inaluogh
@Inaluogh 23 күн бұрын
Prime DC would literally smack Khabib and Islam's heads together like coconuts in wrestling. He was too big and powerful for a natural middleweight cutting to lightweight.
@altanbilen5928
@altanbilen5928 24 күн бұрын
Bro doesnt derrick lewis just perma stand up from bottom position sometimes even mounted like it's no big deal
@daiicasco55
@daiicasco55 24 күн бұрын
not against almeida
@willuvsu2043
@willuvsu2043 23 күн бұрын
@@daiicasco55Almeida vs most of his career😭😭
@thealiminop7571
@thealiminop7571 23 күн бұрын
yeah against garbage opponents you casual
@TheProperSquatch
@TheProperSquatch 23 күн бұрын
@@thealiminop7571I swear you actually the most annoying mma fan “casual” you definitely think khabib is the goat “casual”🤡🤡
@whyareyoureadingmyname5854
@whyareyoureadingmyname5854 23 күн бұрын
Yea because jiu jitsu and wrestling doesn't work in MMA
@McAppleWar
@McAppleWar 18 күн бұрын
This is why Karelins career is so impressive. He did to heavyweights what you can normally only do to lighter men, every time, 887 times.
@robf1801
@robf1801 12 күн бұрын
He was also on that Russian Secret Juice.
@2_mutch
@2_mutch 11 күн бұрын
​@robf1801 granted he probably was but to go 6 years without even a point against you at Olympic heavyweight level is wild roids or not
@daniellundquest8252
@daniellundquest8252 10 күн бұрын
@@2_mutchtrue but steroids are performance enhancers. And he performed hundreds of times on it. It’s impressive how we did it but still isn’t cool when you have to juice to get there because it’s an argument against every point and every win
@YourMommas
@YourMommas 10 күн бұрын
@@daniellundquest8252 Everyone in the Olympics is on the special sauce.
@bobbys.4714
@bobbys.4714 9 күн бұрын
Karelin is not a man.... he is a sowjet experiment! Only beaten by changin da rules! I bet in his prime, he could lift a german brewery horse without sweatin 😅
@cameronmoss4628
@cameronmoss4628 23 күн бұрын
I've done jiu jiu-jitsu for a good few years and mma for about a year and a half and the number 1 rule when sparring a heavy dude is to never let him get side control, mount or back mount cause you're fucked especially in MMA rules. Its just so hard to get out from underneath a big dude when the know what they're doing
@julienducasse1819
@julienducasse1819 23 күн бұрын
🧐
@sajan901
@sajan901 23 күн бұрын
​@@julienducasse1819what if other dude is same weight ? Would be still difficult ?
@PandasRViolent
@PandasRViolent 22 күн бұрын
This dude is just speaking nonsense, size is relative. He’s always been the biggest guy or one of the biggest guys in the room so more times than not his size alone is physically overwhelming to the other individual and he only feels pressure from other HW
@elmango705
@elmango705 22 күн бұрын
@@sajan901that’s what I was wondering too
@cameronmoss4628
@cameronmoss4628 22 күн бұрын
@PandasRViolent wdym? It is genuinely a lot harder to get out from underneath a bigger dude without being able to frame with your legs cause they're just heavier. I'm only 80kg and somebody who's 100-120kg is a nightmare to win against if they get top position, it's just common sense
@moneyb9494
@moneyb9494 23 күн бұрын
Yeah gravity is real😂
@catornas3805
@catornas3805 21 күн бұрын
weight doesn’t effect gravity, don’t u remember in school when they explain how a bowling ball falls at the same speed as a golf ball
@Masonjeremiah95
@Masonjeremiah95 21 күн бұрын
@@catornas3805bro 💀
@Croco_G
@Croco_G 21 күн бұрын
@@catornas3805wtf ru talking about 😂
@todaogunbanwo7748
@todaogunbanwo7748 21 күн бұрын
Are you okay? Weight is the effect of gravity. Mass × gravity = weight 😂​@@catornas3805
@The_batman_mma
@The_batman_mma 21 күн бұрын
That’s not gravity that’s density 😐
@aesop2733
@aesop2733 21 күн бұрын
Relative strength tends to be higher and more relevant when looking at smaller dudes. The bigger the guy, the more likely absolute strength is the conversation to have.
@JasonLuther1
@JasonLuther1 15 күн бұрын
Architect of my kodokushi
@superuser8636
@superuser8636 22 күн бұрын
I competed as a bjj light heavyweight before dropping weight divisions and he’s right: anything over 215 feels unbelievably ridiculous heavy on top of you
@MonoAkalifrustrado
@MonoAkalifrustrado 19 күн бұрын
Had to fight one time a weight class higher than mine because there was no one on the local BJJ tournament here in my former weight class (-100kg/ +-225lb) so they put me to fight against the big guys. Size and strength does matter. A lot.
@iamnotjcook
@iamnotjcook 17 күн бұрын
Fuck, I competed at light heavy after being a welterweight last year and I'm a pretty solid dude below 170, but being 182, lighter than everyone in my class, shorter than everyone and then everyone happened to be athletes and naturally that weight, it was hard as shit.
@TheSmilodon85
@TheSmilodon85 14 күн бұрын
WWE got lil dudes thinking they can Rey Mysterio the shit out of dudes the size of big Show lol
@MonoAkalifrustrado
@MonoAkalifrustrado 14 күн бұрын
@@TheSmilodon85 those are the same that go to a BJJ practice and become wide eyed when they feel on their wrist the vice grip of that 200lb+ grizzly construction worker with a beer belly
@soloqbarbarian6021
@soloqbarbarian6021 14 күн бұрын
@@TheSmilodon85 lil dudes historically always won in war but rejects like yourself think size matters.
@kab1r
@kab1r 12 күн бұрын
The large wrestler dude has always been a threat no matter what time or place.
@L3WIS666
@L3WIS666 10 күн бұрын
What happen to almadea at heavyweight then
@mandemfromcandem8473
@mandemfromcandem8473 20 күн бұрын
Honestly what heavy weights have a good game cuz 90% of them are literally just big with half a hook
@InFernoKnight95
@InFernoKnight95 12 күн бұрын
making mistakes in heavy weight is very punishing too,one clean hook could knock you out no matter how good of a fighter you are.
@warrentonyferguson6172
@warrentonyferguson6172 19 күн бұрын
UFC heavyweights of today are fucking huge
@shark7n10
@shark7n10 17 күн бұрын
Freaks of nature literally
@mongoose890
@mongoose890 17 күн бұрын
Most of them are fat middleweights
@goatbebryant4915
@goatbebryant4915 17 күн бұрын
Big foot Silva aka poatans dad
@GradeAmonster
@GradeAmonster 15 күн бұрын
Dudes back then were bigger and leaner. Look at Shane Carwin, Lesnar, Reem, Bigfoot. Granted a lot of them might've weighed less than some heavies today, but they were 250lean, compared to today's 280lbs of blubber. But I guess that's pre-USADA era, so its to be expected.
@IZJamieIB
@IZJamieIB 15 күн бұрын
​@@GradeAmonster yeah them boys were juiced
@smoketj4830
@smoketj4830 23 күн бұрын
the squeaks 🤣🤣🤣💀
@lookalive5110
@lookalive5110 23 күн бұрын
Bro the editing had me lmfao 🤣🤣
@justsayin._.
@justsayin._. 23 күн бұрын
The part where he said he knows what is like to have a big guy on him, n then the kid with the concerned look...was corny af. It's so overplayed
@lookalive5110
@lookalive5110 23 күн бұрын
@@justsayin._. Idc it was still funny to me 😆😆
@stoneflower8751
@stoneflower8751 21 күн бұрын
facts the lego sfx had me 😅
@kalbertthebrave
@kalbertthebrave 20 күн бұрын
Greg Hardy with OG steve sound it's kinda hilarious
@jadhdshsveg9843
@jadhdshsveg9843 23 күн бұрын
There a 60 pound difference between heavyweight and light heavyweight crazy
@ryanwills7680
@ryanwills7680 23 күн бұрын
Lightheavyweight is 205 heavy weight is 230-280
@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08
@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 23 күн бұрын
​@@ryanwills7680 Uhhh no 😂... heavyweight is 206lbs-265lbs
@nononoyesyesyesyesno2729
@nononoyesyesyesyesno2729 23 күн бұрын
​@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 most heavyweights weight in around 230-280 (if theyre 280 they cut to 265). Nobody shows at in heavyweight at 206...
@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08
@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 23 күн бұрын
@nononoyesyesyesyesno2729 That's what's allowed and you're wrong, it's actually incredibly rare for a heavyweoght to weight CUT to 265lbs etc. Francis ngannou didn't cut weight when he was in the UFC, only a select few like brock lesnar. Even overeem didn't cut for his fight against brock and he's a massive heavyweight.
@jetle-se6lo
@jetle-se6lo 23 күн бұрын
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08as far as I’ve seen majority of heavyweight fightd take place at 240 anyways no? I dont think any modern heavyweight is cutting to 265
@shaba7064
@shaba7064 22 күн бұрын
That’s why there’s weight classes Tom
@victorzavala69
@victorzavala69 22 күн бұрын
I was about to say yeah he’s 110 kilos but so are you
@danienelphoto
@danienelphoto 22 күн бұрын
In heavyweight the margins are much bigger. Anything over heavyweight bottom limit is fine. You could end up with a guy 25kgs heavier than you.
@CoBeMuaDong4100
@CoBeMuaDong4100 21 күн бұрын
weight classes or not, 110 kg is still 110 kg, gravity doesn’t help you out at this amount of weight
@FalseProphetFallacy
@FalseProphetFallacy 20 күн бұрын
⁠@@CoBeMuaDong4100If you weigh 110 and can’t move 110 you got some skill issues ngl.
@AidanFord-tu5we
@AidanFord-tu5we 20 күн бұрын
When ur bigger u need more oxygen and the smaller guys seem to be stronger p4p don't see heavyweights throwing each other about and they weight between 235 and 265
@battles151
@battles151 23 күн бұрын
Not many lighter weight fighters carry that flub weight, theyre always cut. Plenty of flub in upper weight classes. Get a lean heavyweight against a flub and you will see the difference I speak of. Not many out of shape fighters in classes that need to cut. Heavyweight is different for sure 💯
@robjohnston1026
@robjohnston1026 22 күн бұрын
My mans is speaking true knowledge💪🏼💯
@shane3871
@shane3871 22 күн бұрын
Jon jones enters chat*
@TheNextGronk
@TheNextGronk 22 күн бұрын
they need a 230 weight class like cruiser weight or something along those lines 205 to 265 makes no sense when we do 125 135 145 155
@extracrispy9229
@extracrispy9229 22 күн бұрын
@@shane3871he’s so flubby right now looking like DC out here 😂
@TW7S95
@TW7S95 21 күн бұрын
​@@TheNextGronk agreed.
@Utygyihgfggc
@Utygyihgfggc 20 күн бұрын
Jailton Almeida is a former welterweight that will pickup and throw around any heavyweight in the division. So his point is kinda wrong
@Tomas-wm3pk
@Tomas-wm3pk 17 күн бұрын
Almeida é muito forte
@keedoopop4900
@keedoopop4900 21 күн бұрын
Theres a reason the HW titles only been defended 4 times in a row
@XhesOP.
@XhesOP. 17 күн бұрын
3 times in a row* 4 times in total
@brandonamezquita4501
@brandonamezquita4501 12 күн бұрын
The interesting part is that it's the same with LW. It has only been defended a maximum of 3 times.
@PhilSophia-ox7ep
@PhilSophia-ox7ep 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, and it has nothing to do with what Tom is talking about
@myguy2143
@myguy2143 18 күн бұрын
I saw Aspinall live and he really is a massive dude. He would ragdoll most light heavies.
@michaelmangan7963
@michaelmangan7963 23 күн бұрын
As someone who grapples at heavyweight, I can agree but we also have the density to take the pressure. A middle weight guy with all those bones and sharp edges is painful in a different way.
@foodeat2000
@foodeat2000 23 күн бұрын
Way less scrambles in MMA heavier weight classes compared to lighter weight classes. In like Flyweight there are people who actually attempt 20 plus takedowns and scramble like crazy for 3-5 rounds. That would never happen in heavyweight. Even 1 failed takedown of a good wrestler can be his definitive loss at HW because of draining cardio. Thats why heavyweight tends to be hard hitters only because grappling just high risk low reward.
@brandonamezquita4501
@brandonamezquita4501 12 күн бұрын
​@@foodeat2000A lot of the HW champs have been wrestlers/grapplers.
@bufongodemdabae308
@bufongodemdabae308 18 күн бұрын
It feels like you can’t breathe literally
@filipeventura2729
@filipeventura2729 13 күн бұрын
Then comes the Black Beast and says - Just stand up 🤣
@amanrob
@amanrob 20 күн бұрын
As long as you have the strength of an average heavyweight, and can get to top position, grappling those guys is easy. I bounce between super and ultra heavy. Because they’re less mobile, they’re easier to control and dominate. It’s the reason why in BJJ (at those weight classes) that the guy who gets the first takedown, or ends up on top, wins 80% of the time.
@TheKG636
@TheKG636 14 күн бұрын
Agreed, I’m a stocky guy 5’10 and 230, I usually have an easier time controlling the guys bigger than me from the top, some of the smaller guys at my gym are also VERY proficient at armdrags from the bottom, I’ve found the bigger guys don’t have the speed to get around me like that.
@Mikamichae
@Mikamichae 13 күн бұрын
​@TheKG636 how tf u 210 when Ur 5 foot 10
@TheKG636
@TheKG636 13 күн бұрын
@@Mikamichae Just big framed, I have bigger wrists than most people I know too. Also I’m not particularly lean, I’m 20% body fat but I probably look less than that due to the amount of muscle I have.
@Mikamichae
@Mikamichae 13 күн бұрын
@TheKG636 to be fair now u mention it I'm visualising pacific islander guys I used to work with, Samoan/Tongans Average height but just huge build
@TheKG636
@TheKG636 12 күн бұрын
@@Mikamichae I’m actually south Asian, mums side Indian and dads side from Afghanistan, I think it’s pretty unusual for us to be built like this but my brothers all have the same build as me too.
@KaninTuzi
@KaninTuzi 14 күн бұрын
"Trust me, heavier people are heavier. You'd have to be a heavyweight to realize that" 😂
@tbunny6305
@tbunny6305 23 күн бұрын
Sounds like the smaller guys think you're weak bro
@ta1260
@ta1260 24 күн бұрын
Yes, weight is a scale.
@GrugginNClubbin
@GrugginNClubbin 23 күн бұрын
Shut up baldy
@zionkid420
@zionkid420 16 күн бұрын
Tell that to DC.
@Jujitard69420
@Jujitard69420 21 күн бұрын
As a heavy first man on top almost always wins
@justchillen6166
@justchillen6166 8 күн бұрын
Gotta respect the heavyweights they are in their own league
@peekingtom8337
@peekingtom8337 17 күн бұрын
Give Tom Jones, end the winning streak, the whole world knows that he is the man to beat right now. The real champ, Tom aspinol
@sebfox2194
@sebfox2194 12 күн бұрын
Tom Jones is an old Welsh singer.
@takinasheit
@takinasheit 20 күн бұрын
Im 160s 170s fucking with the heavyweights as much as possible.
@atlanticatmosphere6695
@atlanticatmosphere6695 20 сағат бұрын
This is where the “mma math” makes sense.
@raycornett5854
@raycornett5854 8 сағат бұрын
Can confirm I roll with smaller black belts all the time it has gotten my bjj better but when you roll with the giant mf black belts it’s different
@robertwilson3275
@robertwilson3275 2 күн бұрын
When the ufc was full of killer fighters the Light heavyweight was the best class...
@jackhawkins8259
@jackhawkins8259 21 күн бұрын
This is extremely true from a former HWT wrestler and currently super ultra heavy jiu jitsu guy
@taxationistheft7
@taxationistheft7 21 күн бұрын
A lot of the heavyweights don’t have technique though, I think a better example of this would be you can’t rely on a chin in heavyweight because if you do you’re getting slept
@andreimuresian7146
@andreimuresian7146 19 күн бұрын
Do you think this is the reason why heavyweights are in general more long lives in their careers compared to lower weight classes? Because they take an overall less brain damage due to the fact that they go down much more easily and don't take so much accumulated damage?
@taxationistheft7
@taxationistheft7 19 күн бұрын
@@andreimuresian7146 oh shit yeah maybe, I feel like that makes sense. Just one clean blow and it’s lights out. But a lighter guy takes several clean blows a lot of the times. Kinda like how boxing has more CTE than mma
@joefilms2775
@joefilms2775 16 күн бұрын
Its better to get lights out early than to be punished 25 minutes straight even if you havent tasted the canvas.
@brandonamezquita4501
@brandonamezquita4501 12 күн бұрын
​@@joefilms2775Yup. That's why the 10 count is dangerous in boxing.
@limsrusill
@limsrusill 20 күн бұрын
Usually the guys who have lightweights on top of them are also lightweights, Tom.
@gromswowguide7927
@gromswowguide7927 9 күн бұрын
You can cut corners with your technique if you're bigger, and there are techniques the lighter opponent can't get away with, fighting a larger opponent.
@Derals1
@Derals1 19 күн бұрын
And if u go for a takedown and fail = you might end up on bottom with a hw on top of you
@deadingu
@deadingu 18 күн бұрын
Who are terrible grapplers and likely have very bad top control, what's ur point?
@honestlee9921
@honestlee9921 22 күн бұрын
I grapple with women and children all the time, people don’t understand that it’s much harder when you go against a man your size - Tom aspinal
@NoRockinMansLand
@NoRockinMansLand 21 күн бұрын
Amazing
@LunaticKing-fj3hp
@LunaticKing-fj3hp 18 күн бұрын
He didn't say that at all
@KobyMathews
@KobyMathews 24 күн бұрын
People forget getting in full guard or a lot of submissions don't work on bigger guys who are thicker around the waist.
@user-vg8tv1hp9c
@user-vg8tv1hp9c 23 күн бұрын
BJJ is great but it only works on people who have 0 defense, and normal sized people
@JaWick_WitaStick
@JaWick_WitaStick 23 күн бұрын
Both of you have no clue what you are talking about
@huntermonzon5231
@huntermonzon5231 23 күн бұрын
Lmfao Werdum proved that statement wrong lol
@KobyMathews
@KobyMathews 23 күн бұрын
@@JaWick_WitaStick I've grappled with a 300lb black belt I couldn't get my legs around him
@Qwerty-ex2id
@Qwerty-ex2id 23 күн бұрын
@@KobyMathews and u arent a 6'4 265er so ur opinion doesnt matter..
@xavi_6767
@xavi_6767 19 күн бұрын
Bro caught lacking
@erdngtn9942
@erdngtn9942 21 күн бұрын
After considering this, can anyone think of a khabib like heavyweight grappler in mma? Closest I can get is that Josh Barnett guy but even he used strikes as often as anyone else. Am I missing anyone? And not sure nogera counts as real heavyweight
@WayneTechGaming
@WayneTechGaming 12 күн бұрын
Bro, side control itself becomes a submission against big dudes
@warriorvarle9975
@warriorvarle9975 22 күн бұрын
Meanwhile mighty mouse subing heavy weight in jiu jitsu
@vynd287
@vynd287 22 күн бұрын
That "heavy weight" was an untrained big slop who cant fight
@vielostrongdikuasa
@vielostrongdikuasa 21 күн бұрын
All small people in the comments are proving what he is saying, you have to be a heavyweight and grapple with heavyweights to know how it feels. You would think that between heavyweights the advantage disappears but in that weight class conceding the bottom position for example is desvastating , but in smaller division is more usual from both grapple to switch position during a round. Trust me , between heavyweights with the same skillset and weight , someone gets to side control , you are almost going to finish the round in that position
@CRT4Dummies
@CRT4Dummies 16 күн бұрын
it's easy enough to toss around a 250 pound guy if you have positional advantage on the feet. but like you said, never concede bottom position. big mistake
@user-wy3dl2em7p
@user-wy3dl2em7p 15 күн бұрын
Small people are fuckin' insecure. 😂😂😂
@ChipFreeSpace
@ChipFreeSpace 12 күн бұрын
The award for "no shit" goes to... ✋️ Tom Aspinall
@zuzu1524
@zuzu1524 21 күн бұрын
I wrestled at 220 pounds in high school and I can safely say that shit was awful💀
@JonahWinfield-Gummer
@JonahWinfield-Gummer 23 күн бұрын
bro forgot he was a heavyweight to
@InFernoKnight95
@InFernoKnight95 11 күн бұрын
you don't understand what he is trying to say? a heavy weight big as him on top of him(a heavy weight) is different from a 80kg guy on top of a 80kg guy, heavy weight fighters are stronger but it's harder to escape from bottom position for heavy weight fighters because they don't have the leverage to use their power at a bottom position,it's much harder for a heavy weight fighter to push off another heavy weight fighter than a light weight vs light weight.
@ryanrogers7452
@ryanrogers7452 18 күн бұрын
Tom is the baddest man on the planet rn
@ADMartinGolf
@ADMartinGolf Күн бұрын
As a 80 kilo guy with a teacher that’s 110 kilos I can confirm its not easy at all
@RSTEM
@RSTEM 17 күн бұрын
This video made Bradley Martins day
@AlexanderMoen
@AlexanderMoen 13 күн бұрын
makes sense. As an average person, just think how difficult it is if 250lbs laid on top of you covering you head to toe and didn't let you bench press them off. Then, imagine that person just decided to put all that weight into their knee on your gut or something like that. Even if you're a big dude too, that's not trivial
@dano1307
@dano1307 17 күн бұрын
Yeah it feels different when a middleweight is on top of you Tom. But when a middleweight is on top of another middleweight it feels like when you have a heavyweight on top of you
@BLACULA-Skeewoah
@BLACULA-Skeewoah 22 күн бұрын
Lightweights fight other lightweights... What a stupid comparison, especially when cain velasquez, Daniel cormier, noguiera and Frank mir were destroying heavyweights in grappling exchanges
@EdgyDabs47
@EdgyDabs47 21 күн бұрын
Heavyweights were also smaller back then
@j.gwells5252
@j.gwells5252 20 күн бұрын
There’s something called the strength to weight ratio and it’s much larger at 185+
@Nobody-kp5nc
@Nobody-kp5nc 20 күн бұрын
​@@j.gwells5252 but strength to weight ratio goes does as size increases
@stefrecords1
@stefrecords1 20 күн бұрын
​The other guy thought he was onto something 😂😂😂
@marcionhoPW
@marcionhoPW 19 күн бұрын
​@@EdgyDabs47Wtf you talking about,Nogueira ragdolled Bob Sapp,Frank Mir too with 30+lbs opponents
@rafaelsanchez580
@rafaelsanchez580 10 күн бұрын
Tom's speaking as if he's not 110kgs himself.
@ayro0638
@ayro0638 18 күн бұрын
He said the same thing like 4 different ways
@charlesbrown4483
@charlesbrown4483 3 күн бұрын
It is different only because the heavyweight class has such a wide weight range. But if two guys are the same size heavyweights then no grappling is not any different than grappling at any other weight class.
@DJFaNaTiiC
@DJFaNaTiiC 12 күн бұрын
Weight range is different too. Other weights fighting guys who weighed in the same weight as them the day before, guys like Aspinall who can weigh in 230-250 could match up with blobs hitting the limit at 265.
@zachmorgan6982
@zachmorgan6982 22 күн бұрын
I agree with Tom for sure. There aren't near the same amount of subs in the HW division as in other divisions. It's simply different
@nicholascoob1350
@nicholascoob1350 17 күн бұрын
Tbh that's just because grappling takes more skill and HW are less skilled on average
@ts0088
@ts0088 17 күн бұрын
Yeah cause heavyweights suck.😂
@user-uz4ew5lz5f
@user-uz4ew5lz5f 19 күн бұрын
Honestly in reality Heavyweights are the only Warriors that really matter well at least 190 and up that's why all the little guys are so loud they gotta be.
@ap24101988
@ap24101988 17 күн бұрын
I used to do catch wrestling and one of the guys who helped me weighed 4/5 stone more than me when I was on the ground it was like sandbags on my chest big difference
@tehf00n
@tehf00n 22 күн бұрын
He is talking from a perspective of professional fighting of course. Where both fighters know the counters or at least enough to get in there. What I learned from grappling with bigger guys in Judo is you wait for their mistake before you try to get physical. You need the advantage of position and timing and a heavyweight or someone bigger may have the position but no matter who you are, the timing is everything. One mistake can cost you.
@uwotm8634
@uwotm8634 20 күн бұрын
That's why the lower weight classes require more skill, especially FLW, people don't give those guys enough credit because they're not as popular
@jeremylamovsky9868
@jeremylamovsky9868 23 күн бұрын
Not saying hes necessarily wrong, but does he know what its like to be 80 kilo grappling with someone whos also 80 kilo? The only difference is in that division you may be going against someone thats a good bit heavier
@Dan-codes
@Dan-codes 19 күн бұрын
I'm 265, fought in 2008 at 170. I can absolutely abuse people with my weight advantage now. I curl 170 now. It's definitely a different world.
@ketaminejones3981
@ketaminejones3981 11 күн бұрын
Yes, tell me more about how it’s hard to grapple someone you don’t have 60lbs on
@DtmeswitRed
@DtmeswitRed 21 күн бұрын
Past ncaa wrestler here, I wrestled at 157lbs and when id wrestle our heavyweights id always win.
@QIYICI
@QIYICI 23 күн бұрын
people misses point. if you're wrestle in HW guy and can't finish him you're already tired and there is big chance you gonna get KOed because you already spend your whole energy and in HW one punch finish fight.
@zartic4life
@zartic4life 13 күн бұрын
I'm a 180 pound guy I routinely wrestled 220 to 150 and yes its different but each have their strengths and weaknesses. To be honest the strong 150 guys were more difficult for me.
@szczurrat2402
@szczurrat2402 22 күн бұрын
I fractured my forearms in wrestling because i was the third heaviest guy on the team. We had two heavyweights who had to cut every week to make 300. I wrestled 189. I weighed 184. I had a partner in my weight class but if most of the guys flaked out of practice anyways. If one of our guys didnt show it was a bad day for me. Fireman carries were a joke to watch, but was insanity to pull off with one of them. One guy, all practice, would grab me, fall onto me or grab my arm and throw me...by my arm. I had hairline fractures all up and down my arms bracing their weight and impact. I told my coach i was getting "shin splints" in my arms and i went and got checked. Yep. Big guys just did cardio if one didnt show after that.
@StrUpSavage
@StrUpSavage 21 күн бұрын
That sounds like your coach was a moron with no common sense. I hope you’re atleast stronger from that experience
@love-life77738
@love-life77738 23 күн бұрын
He doesnt know what it feels like to have a welter weight on top of him being a welter weight... this is a stupid statement
@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08
@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 23 күн бұрын
Well he might actually, he wasn't always a big dude, he was training in MMA particularly BJJ since he was 7 and he was 5ft8 and much lighter when he was 15, when he turned 16 he hit a massive growth spurt growing into the height of 6ft4½ and the weight did add up. He probably does know to an extent, what if feels like for a 170lb guy to be on top of him as a 170lb guy to an extent
@Inaluogh
@Inaluogh 23 күн бұрын
Calm down he could chokeslam you like pro wrestling and you'd still die.
@honestlee9921
@honestlee9921 22 күн бұрын
Exactly hahah I agree
@honestlee9921
@honestlee9921 22 күн бұрын
@@Inaluoghwtf lol that has nothing to do with anything
@DraymondGreen-qb9wo
@DraymondGreen-qb9wo 22 күн бұрын
I can tell you’ve never been around heavyweights grappling before
@factoverfiction4699
@factoverfiction4699 14 күн бұрын
It's almost a different game at HW/LHW. Another reason why Jones is so impressive.
@Stoney34x
@Stoney34x 21 күн бұрын
I legit broke 2 fingers and had soft tissue damage to my hand 9 days before a fight cos I was put in against what I would say would be a fat light heavyweight and I was at fight weight so 67kg and he threw a big retard kick and just kicked my hand fingers snapped back and boom done over wit
@deadingu
@deadingu 18 күн бұрын
"big retard kick" lmao
@gireadaeduardo8825
@gireadaeduardo8825 23 күн бұрын
I mean how wold he know how it feels for a 80 kilo guy when he isn't even that size
@ChronicJ12
@ChronicJ12 23 күн бұрын
Probably trains with them
@stefanilic0421
@stefanilic0421 22 күн бұрын
He wasn't always a HW, he was lighter as a lad, before bulking and he has been training for his whole life
@dancoy09
@dancoy09 22 күн бұрын
Hes been peavticibg ju jitsu all his life of course he has wrestled with all weights. How you cant understand that?
@extracrispy9229
@extracrispy9229 22 күн бұрын
I mean if he’s been grappling since he was a kid he probably has been that size it’s not like he came out the womb 265 😂
@ZUKOVULA
@ZUKOVULA 22 күн бұрын
​@@extracrispy9229Exactly. Great point
@yaboisquacks2495
@yaboisquacks2495 19 күн бұрын
he's right. also Heavyweight has a much larger weight gap. you'll have guy's 230 fighting guys 260. and they don't even have to cut weight, they just have to decide how good of shape they want to be in
@adishkulkarni
@adishkulkarni 18 күн бұрын
For the Americans, 80 kilograms = 176 lbs 110 kilograms = 242 lbs 120 kilograms = 265 lbs
@tavismacdonald7759
@tavismacdonald7759 19 күн бұрын
Its 100% true. Techique wins but you need to be quite a bit better to out " weigh" the heavier man
@MrHeathcliff83
@MrHeathcliff83 17 күн бұрын
im 65 Kilo. my biggest sparring partner was 135 kilo... You FEEL the difference :-D
@fostersstubbyasmr9557
@fostersstubbyasmr9557 20 күн бұрын
Gravity ahaha basically what he’s saying 😊
@kcdavies9251
@kcdavies9251 7 күн бұрын
Power to weight ratio decreases as you go up in weight. It is literally harder.
@lolhai6430
@lolhai6430 19 күн бұрын
He is right
@M1238_
@M1238_ 19 күн бұрын
I don't about y'all guys, but I am a light guy (65kg 180cm) and I also know what it feels like having a 110kg guy on top of me, actually leaving his weight on me...I know he was trying to apply as much pressure as he could, as I have rolled with heavier guys, which have some consideration and they felt much, much lighter. I am not trying to compare my self with him, but I think every grappler, know how does that feel, as there is some people who are terrible partners.
@AdenLind
@AdenLind 18 күн бұрын
Is he explaining why we have weight classes, i never knew
@dirtyearl6923
@dirtyearl6923 12 күн бұрын
Having a guy your size is different from grappling a guy smaller than you ....who would have thought lol
@johnnyjonesiii6275
@johnnyjonesiii6275 6 күн бұрын
He’s right. It’s just so tiring having a heavyweight on you that your ability is really cut in half because you have to rest after doing the smallest transition. Even though you may be strong moving all that weight against its will is impossible. When I grappled my super heavyweight my focus was... sry I know nothing
@tobiasmccallum9697
@tobiasmccallum9697 17 күн бұрын
I was a 110kg powerlifter/bodybuilder. I grappled a lot with my bjj friends (they are amazing, i am bad) I have had to slim down to 80kgs for health reasons now...... The difference between grappling the same friends when i was 110kg vs 80kg is literally night and day....... Tom is 1000% correct here, as anyone who has grappled monsters will confirm!!!
@donttrendonme
@donttrendonme 21 күн бұрын
The “skill gap” is a myth. You only need and develop 125er skills if you can’t hit like a heavyweight.
@HyphyJuice916
@HyphyJuice916 16 күн бұрын
X Ash A12 is ridiculous
@bartekgorniak5758
@bartekgorniak5758 14 күн бұрын
20 pounds = 1 degree BJJ belt. And ofourse 20 pounds = more power.
@Idkaname-co9oh
@Idkaname-co9oh 23 күн бұрын
Me being a 155 pound guy rolling with a guy who cuts to 265. I know exactly what it feels like😂 when he takes side control I feel like I’ve already been submitted.
@Jugasin
@Jugasin 21 күн бұрын
Tell that to DC and Jones 😂😂😂
@jitsfitness3233
@jitsfitness3233 21 күн бұрын
Have you seen Mighty Mouse grapple and slay all these heavyweights in a jiujitsu tournament? Technique is king.
@seantomlinson2505
@seantomlinson2505 22 күн бұрын
I think it's the power to weight ratio which starts dramatically decreasing the heavier you get
@RedNip123
@RedNip123 3 күн бұрын
But is he saying that an 80kg grappling a 110 kilo guy is different than a 50kg dude grappling an 80kg dude?
@prettybird3804
@prettybird3804 24 күн бұрын
but it’s the same weight for the opponent so therefore if you actually wanna say that, it’s not true because they are all the same weight or close to it and that means they deal with the same thing but if you’re bigger you are stronger unless you don’t work out or something
@Godspear-bw8dg
@Godspear-bw8dg 24 күн бұрын
I mean strength and weightl aren't necessarily directly proportional so I'm sure its different
@elic2575
@elic2575 24 күн бұрын
you missed his entire point, basically, a 150 guy can wrestle a 150 guy without exerting even close to the same effort as a 240+ guy wrestling another 240+ guy. The reason for that is the weight increase isnt proportionate to the strength increase. Heavyweights are really strong, but not strong enough to wrestle with a professional 240 pounds of meat as easily as a 150 guy can with another 150. Its hard to explain if i were to put it another way, lets say every 10 pounds of a human equate to 1 level in size, and strength/cardio was arbitrarly also put in levels, a size lvl 12 will be lvl 12 in strength lets say, a size lvl 13 will be a lvl 12.5, a size lvl 14 will be lvl 13, as size increases so does strength but not proportionatly, by the time u get to lvl 24 size youve got lvl 20 in strength lets say, that makes far and above the strongest, but if youre fighting another lvl 24 size, the 4 lvls between size and strength becomes a problem, that gap is alot wider than the size lvl 14 whos only got 1 lvl of differential. TLTR: As u increase in weight and size ur strength increases but not at the same pace. The heavier you are the bigger the gap between your weight and the strength you can exert, that gap gets smaller the lighter you are
@good8619
@good8619 24 күн бұрын
​​@@elic2575Problem is, the 150 guys are lightyears ahead in terms of skill so by the time you get the 150'er off of you, you've defended like 2-3 submission attempts and scrambled for 5 minutes. Heavyweights are well heavy yeah but the skill level is nowhere near Lightweight.
@prettybird3804
@prettybird3804 24 күн бұрын
@@elic2575 But isnt it true that someone who is for example 240 wouldn’t they be more able to lift something that weighed in at around 480 easier than someone who weighed 120 would be able to lift something that’s 240 or even about the same if they were strength trained about the same i’m just curious not hating
@elic2575
@elic2575 24 күн бұрын
@@prettybird3804 id disagree with that tbh, first on the premise idk how true that is, if both are trained id expect it to be pretty proportional or slightly on the lighter side (dont forget most 240+ guys are gym goers while most 120 arent). Also, i shouldve specified but when i use strength i mean it in a broad way, im counting muscle endurance in that, which in an mma fight is very important and is a big part of why wreslting a 240+ man is hard as a 240. Its having a shorter gastank and yet having to exert more effort than any other weight classes
@isaacreyes268
@isaacreyes268 14 күн бұрын
Being a heavyweight is not that specifically different. It's generally about the weight class.
@count.3842
@count.3842 19 күн бұрын
meanwhile Mighty Mouse grappling and winning against a 240lb 6'4 guy
@gerardogarcia7414
@gerardogarcia7414 18 күн бұрын
In a gi and executed a specific game plan designed first that intention. Big dif, if you train you should know
@LunaticKing-fj3hp
@LunaticKing-fj3hp 18 күн бұрын
That's a super casual take and the big guy never really put 100% of his weight on him
@count.3842
@count.3842 17 күн бұрын
@@LunaticKing-fj3hp the most cope reply ive ever read
@LunaticKing-fj3hp
@LunaticKing-fj3hp 17 күн бұрын
@@count.3842 you ignored the other guy btw also yes it was gi judo mighty was never trying to get pinned to the ground. Like some of these flyweight scrabbles in ufc fights are crazy no way two 300 pounds are gonna be able to flip each other like that
@Weenie2273
@Weenie2273 20 күн бұрын
Woww its so different bro i have to fight someone on equal footing it sucks usually there smaller
@Oscar55997
@Oscar55997 21 күн бұрын
Grappling a heavyweight is different than a lightweight, yeah no shit
@Supbishxoxo
@Supbishxoxo 21 күн бұрын
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