"out humble each other" haha perfect

They are like almost cheering themselves up after a 'failed' career: "No, You really did well Tomas. You are the champion for all of us" ;)

Omg you're right, it's such a wholesome chungus moment. You win le internet's for today sir

You are absolutely right, in the best sense! And these two are just awesome :D

I love it hahaha, and each one cringes while receiving the compliments. 😆

That's how I knew that Dino Cazares is a shitty person, cause Gene has been playing with so many bands and never had any problems. He's able to fit in and do his work perfectly. So when they basically kicked him out from FF, that's when I realised that Dino is not just a "complicated person".

@@deran1983 yeah FF has always been one of my favorite bands and Dino a big influence on my rhythm playing. He’s got that bionic right hand from the future lol. He always seems cool in interviews, but yeah sounds like working with him is the issue. It’s like Taylor Swift running through boyfriends then boo-hooing in her music. After so many you’re like, "no honey…you’re the problem.” Lol

@@travislee9662 yes, I agree. No doubt Dino is a great guitarist with distinctive style and he has created (or helped to create) a whole genre. But 4 out of 4 former members said he's a piece of s**t, which kinda seems to be the truth. I even think that the lyrics from Archetype are about him ("the infection has been removed, the soul of this machine has improved").

@@deran1983 didn’t put that together before on the lyrics, could be true lol

Absolutely. You could definitely see that even more clear on his Twitch streams

and metal as hell

I would love to add Chris Adler and Mario Duplantier too in this list.

@Rishabh Bose Eloy Casagrande, Vinnie Paul, and Danny Carey too.

@@Sasquatch33 Vinni Paul. Hell Yeah. Vinnie is basically the definition of Groove Metal. Love Danny as well but I don't groove to his playing that much.

@Rishabh Bose Yeah, Danny's more of a technical player, and Eloy is just pure brutality. But Vinnie is a master at grooves.

"Just because fuck you" is a very apt description of how we felt when Dark Angel released Darkness Descends back in '86. Haake and Hoglan are both living legends.

Dont forget the weights!! Hoglan is an goddamn animal, and packin alot of weight himself in his former days which also adds to the insaness. But his work with Death on ITP and Symbolic in my mind is probably some of the best extreme metal drumming ever recorded. OFC Haake is insane aswell, never got into Meshuggah tho, to much math involved LOL

he is btw, you are totally right

Agree. Total monster of a player. Also I read somewhere that it was Gene Hoglan who showed Dave Lombardo how to use a Double Pedal. Fookin hell man.

@@rishabhbose29 Gene gave him tips on double bass drumming during the recording of Haunting the Chapel, and Gene had to hold Daves kit together as he played it because there was no carpet in the studio, and the China cymbal in Chemical Warfare is Genes'

Even though Strapping is over, Gene still hangs out in Vancouver all the time. He's never been anything but a great person every single time I've talked to him.

He does a good interview with Dean Delray. His podcast is called let there be talk and its worth a listen.

thanks mate!

Tomas was talking about 7 year olds playing bleed. What's missing is the ingenuity. Lots of people can learn, not a lot can create.

I discovered Meshuggah with "Contradictions Collapse," but "None" absolutely changed my life.

And Hogland taking off his ankle weights when he needs to go "really fast". Are you kidding me dude? 😎

My two favorite metal drummers.

Exactly.

YEs, being saying that for Years!!!!!! The rules still apply, we can all agree the White Haake is just superior to Brown or grey Haake XD

Gene IS the mountain upon which other metal drummer faces are carved

Facts

appretiate the comment!

i don't know about the ubiquious style. nobody even comes close in this style. some are more technical but they either lack the groove or just are not coherent in terms of style or have lame writing. nobody writes such cool drum lines. once bleed was out, everybody was hopping on to it. what does tomas do? doesn't rest on his lorries and drops clockworks and now it's ghost notes thats the shit. he's just always ahead of the game because he can write and has great feeling for coherence in art and style. and that's besides his unique approach to these beats in general

thank you so much Tom! Glad you get something out of the Tribute, means a lot to me.

Chris seems like a good dude as well.

to be honest, it's not that hard. i'm not that good and can wing my way through it. no way in hell i can do that on bleed or tomas stuff. i won't even attempt it

well, I usually record way more "beginning stuff" than I let you guys actually watch =D

sorry, that's all there is.

He said Thomas could pick it up in 10 sec, not just any random dude you know

That song is hard. It sounds deceptively simple. its NOT.

@@LiquidSpartan117 big difference indeed

Opened for them 30-odd years ago in Anaheim. Gene was really nice to us, watched our set and was very gracious with his compliments afterwards.

doubt the kid is 7 years old and doubt it was played "all the way perfectly" its most likely that he played it better than any 7 year old should have and it impressed thomas

Nope I saw the video they were talking about. The kid freaking Nails it

@@nathanwalsh3028 he didn't he was slightly off on some of the changes of the song and missed a few hertas here and there and the sound wasn't clear but nonetheless still phenomenal for a kid! He is a Filipino by the name of momo de monster you can find this channel here. He's had several covers, one at 7, 8 and 12 I believe

That's the thing, creating your own music. It kinda sucks and you are "never satisfied" like Haake said. Playing covers is way easier, just copy.

Exactly and each time it gets traced it loses its sense of value.

the problem is, if they don't go through that trial and error, they miss out on a big thing: developing your own style and sound. it's too easy to copy today and that comes with a cost.