okay but he told them that "father john misty" is a name he goes by and not a character and they continued to refer to fjm as a character, i mean come on ??? basic common sense man

FJM later said he was completely fucked up, "fear and loathing" level, for this interview. Wouldn't have had a clue. The guy can handle his drugs damn

this is one of my favorite things ever

"Oven gloves... I heard you trying to get that one earlier... you're really proud of that one, aren't you?" Fantastic cynicism.

Comparative levels of dryness from dry to really dry Crackers Gobi Desert My Elbow Marco Rubio's Mouth Barbara Walter's crotch Father John Misty's humor

This interview is so ridiculously stupid it's pure comedy.

His interviews are just like his music.. totally puts me off

'A sequence of phonetic sounds that looks good on a t shirt...'

Josh Tillman is a human being. He's been prodded around all these sorts of things. He just wanted an intelligent conversation, and these guys wanted a guest of the morning. Just not a good recipe for a good interview. Imagine if you were on the radio talking to two try-hard comedians, constantly interrupting you, asking you questions, not letting you shape the conversation at all. And then imagine doing this sort of thing all the time. Josh Tillman deserves some slack. Not his finest moment, but definitely not a fatal flaw in his career.

Goddamn there's enough sarcasm in this interview to kill a small village

FJM is a no bullshit kinda guy

This is excruciating. I don't think either's to blame. FJM probably has a certain suspicion of interviewers, and just didn't 'get' Radcliffe and Maconie's sense of humour. They just don't work together, as people.

“I abide to your superior knowledge..” “Oh god come on, man”

honestly it sounds like FJM is just tired and hungover and anyone knows that when you're in that state, your emotional state is really fragile

thanks for this...I remember listening live and thinking this is a car crash in slow motion...

This is the audio version of watching a really gory bullfight.

For context (for Americans or those too young to know), Maconie had a long career as a music journalist stretching back to the 1980s and has written for the NME, Q, Select and Mojo (among others), and interviewed countless bands and musicians. Radcliffe has worked for national radio since the early 90s and, similarly, has had hundreds of musicians and bands on his shows over the years. It's very telling that, despite the "difficult" characters they've encountered throughout their careers, they lost their patience when confronted with this pompous hipster and his obtuse, long-winded, non-answers. At least they tried. I would have given up trying to engage this guy long before they did.

Right off the bat, the guy pronounces meme as 'mem'. Good lord.

They're all big boys. No harm done 🙂

I remember listening to this at the time. My ears pricked up at "I really am not, feller." from Stuart. Tillman clearly didn't want to be there. The album had been out for a year, so everyone who was going to buy it already had. The concert had sold out as they mention so he had nothing to lose. If he was drunk or stoned then turning up was unprofessional and disrespectful. Mark and Stuart are serious and knowledgeable music journalists of long-standing who admired Tillman's music a great deal. They have interviewed scores if not hundreds of people without a problem. Go figure.

Why do they keep interrupting him ffs

It really is just him being clever and biting to begin with but the interview style is super blunt, he was accurate. I've paused it at when one of the hosted called him "Fella" I'm not sure what that means where you guys are from, but to me (and likely the guest) it is considered down talking. I'm guessing by the hosts style it was probably meant to lighten the mood if they were uncomfortable with the guests sensibilities. That is what I can say from an outside American perspective, not that anyone asked haha

heres the thing. these guys are just doing their job, and as josh tensd to do, hes turning it into a little deadpan performance. which is fine, but these guys arent in on the joke and that aint their fault. josh isnt a very inviting person ive gathered. youre either there with him, or youre not.

I thought Josh was being quite patient with them lol.

Awkward af. So painful. Listening to it live I thought they were getting on ok at first basically until the 'I really am not fella'. Listening again it sounds like the aggro was there from the start and just grew. They tried to rescue it after the first song but...

I like all the people involved in this interview - I am not sure if there is any value in attaching blame for its failing..... did it fail? I found it interesting and listenable. I'd certainly rather this than the horrifically disconnected, contrived media trained PR that passes for most interviews today. Josh has since said that the nights and day before this interview were spent living in fear and loathing style blaze of destructive glory.... and perhaps he was a little 'tired and emotional'... when he went in for this interview

So different to the interviews they do with for example Noddy Holder, when it's like a lad's night down the local and everyone is having a great time! 😳

Fucking hell what a helmshine!!

this isn't an interview, it's just two guys trying to take the piss out of misty by asking pointless questions which misty handles quite well and ultimately listening to this was a waste of time

merch algorithm for the jeggings

This was a really embarrassing interview for the BBC. No research done whatsoever. Just rude really. Asking empty and non-direct questions. Handled pretty well by J. Tillman - BBC 6 really should know better.

they interview him and don't know when his show was.

It started off ok with them getting the dry jokes about merchandise, but fjm seemed to misinterpret the oven gloves reference as some kind of slight and it all got a bit narky from there on in, I found it all highly amusing, good work all round chaps.

i love him ❤

Lesson #1 for interviewers: Never get flustered.

I can here expecting to hear JT being a bit of a prick, but really I don't think Mark and Stu handled it very well. He was pretty clear about what was annoying him and why, but they took no heed of it.

these guys just will not drop the whole name thing.

Well I beg to your superior knowledge.. oh come on man.

hilarious

He suffers from depression. The funny haha interview doesn't suit him

6:00 "his oevre" "okay...(sigh)" says it all. they're either making fun of the way he speaks or desperately trying to relate to him. disrespectful interviewers imo.

It's like none of them are really bad, it's just like something went wrong in the interview, somehow. FJM seems like a no-nonsense guy (good thing) who just happens to not be polite about it (bad thing). R+M are 'some-nonsense' guys who do ask meaningful questions, albeit interspersed with said nonsense, although here they seem to be lost in FJM's (completely understandable, but unfortunate) frustration and his ventings thereof. But what do I know? I've honestly never listened to FJM's music so maybe in context this was all bullshit. But they do tend to make interesting interviews with others. There's far more lamentable content in the comments section. Everybody is so angry. It makes me sad. (Because I am a jessie)

Well that's what happens when you go into an interview clearly knowing nothing about the guy you're about to talk to... FJM handed them some due criticism

there's a lot of glory involved...

Thanks for posting this.I find the music of Father John Misty to be less entertaining than Radcliffe and Maconie. If you are going to name yourself Father John Misty you have to expect every interviewer to ask about your spiritual background. I think he was too sensitive and/or hung over to match wits with two of the best presenters on the BBC. All the RadMac haters will be happy to know they won't be on weekdays after the first of the year. That dampens my spirits for the holiday season.

Father John Misty (live at 6Music Festival) just apologised to RadMac for being a "miserable wretch" during THAT interview. "Sometimes I'm not a cool guy", he added. So all you Father John Misty apologists can shut up now.

amazing

This was an atrocious interview by Radcliffe and Maconie, they'd not done any research, it was a Friday and they wanted to get off and have a beer. Shit work by the BBC, they should expect better.

❤️❤️❤️❤️ josh

you can't tell me the interviewer didn't flip through a thesaurus just before the interview

this is elite

If by awkward you mean that Josh Tillman is not willing to dumb it down for the benefit of Radcliffe and Maconie's audience.

cue theme from twilight zone

Eamonn Holmes with David Blaine!!

What a misery guts.

I remember this when it was broadcast. Put me off him and made me love Radcliffe even more.

Maconie was the issue here

I love fjm

it seems like papa j doesnt really jive with brits

Okay Mr. Tillman owned this interview and it was hilariously endeering to listen to him tolerate each and every moment he stuck their insufferable shit into his dehumidifier. That being said, he did sound cranky.

Enjoyed FJM slowly deflating the British pompous whoopie cusion that is these 2 DJs

I remember hearing this at the time and finding it a little awkward....but only because FJM clearly wasn't getting into the groove of Rad Mac. It's a real shame that some people will just hear/see this and think Rad Mac are the problem; they're both serious music journalists, writers and broadcasters and are all about having the craic with their guests. They interview someone virtually every day, 5 days a week and 99.9% of the time the guest gets it, feels welcome and riffs along with them. FJM was clearly uncomfortable here and, given that he's since apologised and cited this interview as a case of him being a dick, the blame is clearly at his door and he graciously concedes that.

Soooo many people get the wrong idea of Radcliffe and Maconie, they are usually great with guests. Father "Josh" Misty has said he was on a bit of a "low point, with excess..." It was good towards the end, and they aknowledged the social media outrage. What the problem?!?

I feel like there is a bit of a clash between the English sense of humour and the american sense of humour here

“Didactic hair splitting post punk competing ideologies makes me puke”-Misty

I wish Radcliffe and Riley would work together again. They bounce of each other better and make a better duo than Radcliffe and Maconie (who just seems to be a right grumpy git these days).

They just sound like typical brittish radio DJs. I don't think that they are bad in any way, they are trying to meet FJM but he doesn't give anything back. He's an interpersonal stone wall in this interview.

Finally, someone made those chaps sound like the clowns that they are👏🏻👏🏻

I thought this was going to be him being awkward (which he certainly is in quite a lot of interviews) but he's just desperately trying to be cool and sensible, and they're being ridiculous

any musician that says "I have very obtuse merch sensibilities" deserves to get trolled

What stupid banal questions they were asking. Perhaps they should ask what his favourite colour is next. Good on you Father John Misty and he was fantastic at Nottingham last week.

worst interviewers ive ever heard, let the man speak

What's the issue with this interview? Tillman answered all the interviewers questions coherently. He didn’t ramble or seem antagonistic. Personality mismatches, maybe. A brilliant interview, if he was as fucked up as he later claimed.

This guy's music is infinitely more interesting than his commentary on, well, anything.

My dad won't listen to FJM because of this interview. He loves Radcliffe & Maconie. I love FJM...

wowee

Moderately intelligent people in a "thesaurus off" Fortunately one can write very decent songs. Why did I waste some of my finite tenure of sentience both watching/ listening to this pissing. I should have been listening to 'Guided By Voices'

I am sorry but these guys would have annoyed me too! They are clearly just Lads .....and CLEARLY Father John Misty is NOT!

Fuck i need this jeggins.

At least he knows he's said awful things

1:00

i think they did their best. regardless of how knowledgeable on the subject they are, they have to ask questions that the general demograph of their audience might ask. for example, i've only ever heard of him in passing, so whether or not FJM is a result of his upbringing is a valid point, as is "is FJM a character?" - had he answered the questions as straight as they were asked, i might have learned something positive about him. as it is, he jsut comes over (to me) as pretentious. i feel he perhaps was not briefed on who R&M were and what the tone of their show is, and went into the interview expecting something a little more highbrow. from reading comments he made about this interview subsequently, it seems what went on behind the scenes may have had more to do with how it went, than the actual questions that were asked. R&M would have sussed early on ("blunt questions...") that he was trying to show them up live on air so at some point it became a game rather than a straight interview, and their interruptions would have been part of that.

I come back to this now and again just to remind myself not to be a pompous wanker, like Father John Misty.

If Tillman didn't want to do the interview (which he clearly didn't from the start) then he should have just not shown up, Fifteen minutes of radio silence would have been better than listening to his spoilt brat act. He ought to have known that the interviewers were big supporters of his music (if they were not they would not have INVITED him onto THEIR show) and they have been since the first Fleet Foxes album was released. At the end of the day the sole purpose of these interviews is to promote the artist, Tillman needs to ask himself if coming across the way he did was the best way of doing that. But of course, he wont.

4:20

Father John Pissy more like

Father John Wank Stain

What a catastrophic and embarrassing car crash of an interview by these two time served 'presenters', Radcliffe's attempt to imbue humour was perhaps a little perhaps lost on FJM. The awkwardness of the interview was cringeworthy at times.They came across as being poorly informed or lacking in research judging by the off point 'character' question they asked and at other points during the interview Maconie was just unprofessional and rude when persistently talking over FJM and his response 'I bow to your superior knowledge' speaks for itself. If you want to learn how not to interview an artist, this is a good example. I actually think FJM did well to remain in the studio for the duration of the interview. If you have not taken the time to listen to FJM in other interviews or the lyrical content of his music, you could be forgiven for thinking he was being arrogant during this interview but I don't think that was the case at all. Very poor form by Radcliffe and Maconie on this occasion.

Radcliffe and Maconie can't keep up with the kid so try and act aloof and fail

Josh Wank Wank Average Drummer Man

This is what happens when you put an incisive, intelligent, introspective person in front of interviewers who are, simply and bluntly, professional entertainers. I doubt they even understand what genuine, consistent soul-searching is all about. If they did, I doubt they would be so quick to deflect and play the "Ooh, look how smart you think you are" game. If they did, they would know how important it is to listen and apply critical thought to an interviewee's statements before chattering off down the rabbit hole. Give me a break. They're not the slightest bit interested in genuine questions and answers. They don't want to share legitimate information. They only want to create storylines and generate ratings. It's both typical and indicative of the imminent fall of western civilization.

Radcliffe and Maconie are very experienced and intelligent journalists. Their shtick can sometimes be misunderstood, FJM clearly does not understand English humour, not his fault, but still a self obsessed tosser... "I bow to your superior knowledge...." haha !

Normally like Maconie but he was a bit unprofessional here. I know next to nothing about FJM but thought he didn't do much wrong. Mark was just trying to rescue things.

he's enlightened and calling out fictional stories we live in this realm

gosh those guys are pricks

I thought Brits were supposed to be sophisticated. These guys sound like coked up American shock jocks. "Can I finish my thought?" says it all.

lol they're so salty.

I find FJM very *obtuse*

it's an ego swimming pool full of ego milk and ego dressing

People having a go at the skills of these two presenters. They know more about music collectively than any of us posting comments on here. And also having a go at British humour ??? We invented humour. See Monty Python for starters. This guy couldn't be arsed on the day to give a decent interview. Seen him talk to Zane Lowe and all Zane did was kiss his butt. A decent interview but still... These two are talented guys that know their stuff. He fucked with them