Your Future & Reality Will Change Forever: AI, God, Consciousness & Simulation Theory | Joscha Bach

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Tom Bilyeu

Tom Bilyeu

8 ай бұрын

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Confusing the distorted version of reality you’ve created in your mind with truth and perception causes people more suffering than most would ever admit to.
In today’s episode, I’m joined by an expert with cognitive science and artificial intelligence, to discuss what you need to know about the self-generated simulation you’ve created and how to ensure you live the life you want, well.
Joscha Bach, is a trailblazing AI researcher reshaping our understanding of mind and universe. Known for his groundbreaking work in cognitive architecture, his revolutionary insights offer a fresh perspective on artificial intelligence. He’s an essential voice in this generation that has grabbed my attention, and will grab yours as well..
In today’s episode Joscha walks through self-generated simulations and the possibilities of humans merging consciousness with artificial intelligence, plus:
-The nature of reality, free will, and consciousness.
-Stages of reality and perception develop your ability to self-control
-AI’s need for desire and goals.
As an artificial intelligence researcher and cognitive scientist, Joscha Bach’s fresh perspectives and insights may send your mind spinning and it may also trigger your flight responses. Bringing you episodes like this, breaks down preconceived notions and creates new opportunities.
Joscha Bach Quotes:
““I think that ultimately this is the main purpose of consciousness, this creation of a coherent reality and the long tail of the creation of this coherence in reality, this our ability to reason and construct.”
“What is our consciousness thought to be related to reality? So that is the first part of that answer. It's basically it's the most important question because it's the one where we have the least of an answer.”
“In biological evolution, it always includes suffering because it means that you will have an organism that is not able to emerge as the existing stuff.”
“If we get consciousness and self-organization, how do we ensure that they want to organize in a way that is in concert with us and not in opposition to us or indifference in a way that obliterates us in the way that we would obliterate plants, trees, bugs, etc.?”
“I think that is ultimately not about maximizing intelligence. It's about maximizing agency..”
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@andromeda3542
@andromeda3542 3 ай бұрын
Joscha is the final boss of podcasts.
@user-oo8sn8wz1c
@user-oo8sn8wz1c Ай бұрын
I know the fields are different....kind of...but i still say that Eric Weinstein and roger penrose are also very interesting.
@atrocitasinterfector
@atrocitasinterfector 8 ай бұрын
Im a simple man, i see a 3hr podcast with Joscha Bach, I watch the whole thing and absorb as much as possible
@drmedwuast
@drmedwuast 8 ай бұрын
Then re-watch it 50 times to absorb the rest
@TomBilyeu
@TomBilyeu 8 ай бұрын
That's what's up! It seems like you've watched other content from Joscha. What's stood out the most to you? Best, Impact Theory Community Manager
@atrocitasinterfector
@atrocitasinterfector 8 ай бұрын
@@TomBilyeu thanks! :D yes I have, you're the first one to dialogue with him about his thoughts on practical methods of self-improvement, also your ability to follow up quickly was nice and with relevant and well articulated questions that I suspect aligned well with what the audience was thinking too, I'm sure Joscha appreciates other minds that can keep up and give him fun things to comment on
@DigitalDiggo
@DigitalDiggo 8 ай бұрын
@@TomBilyeu What "stands out the most" to me is your deceptive clickbait headline, which resulted in loads of comments about how "We're in the Matrix". Did any of these commenters actually listen to what Bach and the host said? Neither of them claims we are living within a simulation, nor that "the evidence is everywhere". The so-called simulation is ENTIRELY within our brains, being an approximate reconstruction and prediction of reality, restricted by the limitations of our senses and memory.
@DEBO5
@DEBO5 7 ай бұрын
@@TomBilyeuyou should read his book Principles of Synthetic Intelligence (disclaimer: it’s not at all an easy read)
@starblue324
@starblue324 8 ай бұрын
My favorite living philospoher by a mile.
@bradmodd7856
@bradmodd7856 7 ай бұрын
Agreed, a real "cut the crap" philosopher. I like his version of intenionality/will where minds and cells are likewise agents of intenionality. He is careful not to extend this to atoms however which I find a bit feable.
@Christontoast
@Christontoast 7 ай бұрын
Not only do I wish I could express myself as succinctly as Joscha Bach, I wish I had thoughts as worth expressing as he does.
@dru4670
@dru4670 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. And he rarely talks about "how to live well"
@DEBO5
@DEBO5 7 ай бұрын
Joscha Bach has single handedly answered the following questions: - who are we? - what are we? - what is going on in our perceived reality? I encourage everyone to watch more videos on him and eventually purchase his book “Principles of Synthetic Intelligence”
@Airbender131090
@Airbender131090 7 ай бұрын
Can you sum it up? I cant understand what he is saying
@DEBO5
@DEBO5 7 ай бұрын
@@Airbender131090 I don’t blame you he used a lot of computer science based terms. Basically he’s saying that mind and body are the exact same thing, and that everything that we perceive and experience is a result of our brains creating a simulation/dream for itself. So we take in external stimuli like light hitting our retina and sound waves hitting our ear drums/cochlea and transform it into a meaningful 3-dimensional space time interface. Basically we are just biological robots made out of cells and everything we experience is a result of our brains computing engine
@user-gy5ib8hu9v
@user-gy5ib8hu9v 5 ай бұрын
​@@DEBO5 it s a fact, every new scientist come back at David Bohm tehory of implicate order.
@enlightenedinterstellarbei8020
@enlightenedinterstellarbei8020 3 ай бұрын
I think he might be synthetic
@NathanTilesTheWorld
@NathanTilesTheWorld 7 ай бұрын
I love this man so much, and love to see him conversing on larger and larger stages. He is in my humble estimation one of the most brilliant minds on the planet.
@jenniferjuniper12
@jenniferjuniper12 6 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen him before but I’m inclined to agree after listening to the entire video. Wow. Very interesting!
@keplermission
@keplermission 6 ай бұрын
Is this supposed to be about living in a simulation? I mean ... he's talking about living on Mars! He's talking about computer games! You know ... where in the video is the evidence for a simulation?
@janich9406
@janich9406 5 ай бұрын
nope, its actually not at all about presumptions in general, at least not the way i understand it - but in his profession, this "let's just assume, that the world is kind of a simulation or something" is just the language people use and more important: it's just a MODEL to be able to have something like common ground across many domains for the world (which is often in other sciences not at all described "better" but sometimes ever more dogmatic, casting out everyone/everything not fitting ... ) we seem to live in and a way of explaining now things within or out of this to compare conclusions etc. - it's not at all my "favourite" language, but at least we can talk about things based on some simple ideas and therefore won't get lost in translation so easily over and over again. one of the reasons why i like this - i can follow and learn ... ps: simulation-theories can not be true, but maybe suggest, that completely "untrue" things can also be real (and vive-versa ... ) ... @@keplermission
@raybo780
@raybo780 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@flavioptferreira
@flavioptferreira 7 ай бұрын
I SWEAR the first time I heard Josh Bach I went through a low-key existencial crisis for several days!
@PatrickQT
@PatrickQT 5 ай бұрын
Joschas cognitive abilities are so far beyond mine that we might as well be a different species.
@eladpeleg745
@eladpeleg745 2 ай бұрын
Watching him is simultaneously amazing and discouraging. I enjoy his brilliance but also lament that I will never reach such insights myself...
@NWforager
@NWforager 8 ай бұрын
Joscha's breakdown of insanely profound concepts are much appreciated and Mind Blowing 👀
@heleen313
@heleen313 8 ай бұрын
51:34 “if you’re not able to experience joy from watching squirrels, you’re lost” I love how Joscha searches for the deepest knowledge of our existence and still is so down to earth and such a compassionate person with both humanity and animals 🙏🏻🤗 Also loved Tom’s little smile when Joscha said this 😊
@fabiankempazo7055
@fabiankempazo7055 8 ай бұрын
yeah, I am so much in "cognitive love" with this Joscha Bach Brain. :D
@mriz
@mriz 8 ай бұрын
1:39:32 joscha start speaking his own native language citing Kant, yoo that so cool... Tom also smile with this
@throwaway999able
@throwaway999able 8 ай бұрын
Nice
@kateashby3066
@kateashby3066 7 ай бұрын
I saw a bunny and squirrel playing the other day and I absolutely stopped to take in the moment. It’s also possible they were fighting over food. 🤷🏻‍♀️ lol but it was cute so that’s all that matters 😛
@mizum3458
@mizum3458 7 ай бұрын
That makes no sense. I can enjoy seeing that chit but still be lost before during and after the event happening. 😒
@aidanthompson5053
@aidanthompson5053 8 ай бұрын
Don’t get addicted to understanding - develop and deploy
@deajar-davidlazer8678
@deajar-davidlazer8678 8 ай бұрын
Simulation is modern language for what has been given many terms over the ages, it is just our level of intellect has reached a point where we can push aside enough bias to see it directly. Only a few in the past could see it but now days there are many who see it. It’s the difference between getting stuck in materialism as a fundamental to reality when there are those who have been beyond reality itself. Deconstructing mental constructs back to the only thing that is left in any form of existence at all “awareness/ nothing/ infinity or a singularity” the original mind formed itself from this and imagined everything else. It’s been called illusion, maya, matrix, the creation, the holograph, the larger consciousness system, the main computer, the dream…. And the mind holds it in its consciousness by deceiving itself into believing it is real or a reality. It then forgets what it is and that is what we all are. This same mind. It’s not religion and it’s not science although both try their darned best to describe it. It is existence experiencing itself
@christina6614
@christina6614 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for simplifying
@michellem.8086
@michellem.8086 8 ай бұрын
I'm screenshotting this comment, thank you!!
@fullclipaudio
@fullclipaudio 8 ай бұрын
Phillip K. Dick saw it 50 years ago.
@v1kt0u5
@v1kt0u5 8 ай бұрын
🍄🌈🦄
@intothevortexwithdatorsapi4192
@intothevortexwithdatorsapi4192 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely SPOT ON! 👌👍
@guitarvorous
@guitarvorous 5 ай бұрын
There should be timestamps.
@MissRascalette
@MissRascalette 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for letting your guest talk so eloquently for extended periods of time. I could listen to him for years.
@keithwins
@keithwins 7 сағат бұрын
I am 64 years old and discovering Joscha Bach is one of the best things that has ever happened to me. Such broad integrative thinking feels very hopeful, even when talking about the extinction of the human race. I have tried to study broadly myself, but so often the morass of conflicting incompatible ideas and inadequate and contested evidence has made intellectual pursuit feel more like picking teams. JB helps me take a step back and see things in a context that doesn't just get mired in the conflicts, in fact illuminates them in fascinating ways. I am so grateful for the gift of Joscha. I look forward to his assent to godliness. 😊 I also think Tom Bilyeu did a beautiful job as the interlocutor. I've watched many Joscha interviews and some interviewers have a hard time tracking the huge implications of some of his statements, but you did a beautiful job. I have the advantage of watching this video over and over. Thinking on your feet during a Joscha interview seems unimaginable, he regularly says sentences, seemingly just off the cuff, that leave me thinking for hours, peeling off layers of meaning and chuckling at brilliant poetry😂
@brady167
@brady167 7 ай бұрын
Listening to Joscha Bach feels much like trying to read code as a hobbyist programmer.
@stevel7518
@stevel7518 7 ай бұрын
I wanted to listen to this so bad. But this guy talks like chatgpt. I’m sure he is imparting some great knowledge tho
@snarkyboojum
@snarkyboojum 7 ай бұрын
Here you go, I'm summarised with GPT for you. Summary: The speaker discusses the concept of reality as a self-generated simulation created by our brains and bodies. They delve into the idea of perception, suggesting that our understanding of reality is a coarse-grained representation of the underlying reality. The speaker also explores the idea of physicalism versus simulation theory, and the stages of human consciousness and self-awareness. They further discuss the concept of a universal causal substrate and the nature of consciousness. Lastly, the speaker shares their views on the importance of understanding how the mind works and the implications of artificial intelligence. Key themes: 1. Perception and Reality: The speaker discusses how our brains and bodies create a simulation of reality, and how this perception is a coarse-grained representation of the underlying reality. 2. Consciousness and Self-awareness: The speaker explores the stages of human consciousness and self-awareness, and the nature of consciousness. 3. Artificial Intelligence and the Mind: The speaker shares their views on the importance of understanding how the mind works, the role of artificial intelligence, and the potential implications of AI.
@manyarimusic
@manyarimusic 7 ай бұрын
@@snarkyboojum how did you get GPT to summarize the video?
@janich9406
@janich9406 5 ай бұрын
by asking kindly ... but good question, considering the answers ... @@manyarimusic
@starblue324
@starblue324 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Dr. Bach for helping the rest of us become a little more coherent.
@Unscripted01
@Unscripted01 8 ай бұрын
The way you process things and experiences is how everything is going to be. You assign meaning to everything around you this is where perspective comes into play; your perspective becomes your reality. Be open to any possibility
@Telencephelon
@Telencephelon 5 ай бұрын
This was just awesome. Not just the ping pong with everyone letting each other finish but also the really insightful questions and answers. I've rarely seen much better Joscha podcasts
@robertvondarth1730
@robertvondarth1730 8 ай бұрын
Awareness of awareness is consciousness
@mr.knownothing33
@mr.knownothing33 5 ай бұрын
Joshca Bach really needs to publish books 📚 🤩
@threewishes777
@threewishes777 2 ай бұрын
My husband die 8yrs ago and my son passed away 14 days ago he was 17 years old, in May 6 he would of been 18. I sit here trying to make my faith stronger. Death is for body not the soul. These emotions are strong and can hold you in. If the human God is collecting experiences its incredible and i understand why humans go crazy without faith
@codinginflow
@codinginflow 7 ай бұрын
Best interview with Joscha Bach yet. I had no idea Tom Bilyeu would ask such amazing questions about these complicated topics. I always knew him as a motivational video guy.
@LowKickMT
@LowKickMT 6 ай бұрын
i agree. i avoided him most of the time because i perceived him as a quack.
@agt5jx87
@agt5jx87 8 ай бұрын
I've seen all of Joscha's lectures and read his book. This is the best interview with him. Great job. You're excellent.
@ginogarcia8730
@ginogarcia8730 8 ай бұрын
what'z his book?
@DEBO5
@DEBO5 7 ай бұрын
@@ginogarcia8730Principles of Synthetic Intelligence. It’s by far the hardest book I’ve tried to read. It’s more like a textbook there are equations and diagrams
@teemukupiainen3684
@teemukupiainen3684 7 ай бұрын
when i started to listen joscha-interviews couple of years ago, i always had to stop every now and then just to think over the amazing ideas he was talking about...this one makes me do the same
@Nadia-fn1sw
@Nadia-fn1sw 7 ай бұрын
Any host inviting Joscha Bach for an exchange has taken up a difficult task, as matching his level is certainly tricky... :) Respect. Grateful to the many podcasters for giving Joscha Bach the time nd the space to share! Even a temporary access to his extraordinary stream of thought feels like a pure bliss, and has lasting repercussions on the way my mind makes sense of, perceives and organises information.... Please, keep sharing your brilliance with all of us simpletons, Joscha!
@CrowMagnum
@CrowMagnum 8 ай бұрын
The answer to postmodernism is not a return to modernism, but rather transcending both while retaining an understanding of the value of both perspectives
@LifeAfterRebirth
@LifeAfterRebirth 8 ай бұрын
AWESOME VIDEO THANK YOU TOM!
@Nathan-yv2rg
@Nathan-yv2rg 8 ай бұрын
The older I get the more I question everything. The more I question everything the less it makes sense. Can't rule out anything tbh. More chance of this being a simulation then not in my opinion.
@Gladiator-qu7co
@Gladiator-qu7co 8 ай бұрын
So true, it's all just a huge mystery !
@deborahcurtis1385
@deborahcurtis1385 8 ай бұрын
The Vedic scriptures speak of the Maya or the illusion that we live in. According to them when we die, it's as if we are awakening from a dream. This is consistent with the concept of simulation. Except there is cause and effect according to Sanskrit teachings and this amounts to karma and karmic debt. If you oscillate towards those with the same level then you will create your own realities. All OK in theory but it's still just a theory, and part of the Maya. True reality cannot be contained by the mind. It's worth checking Sahaja Yoga out for resolution of this IMO.
@mizum3458
@mizum3458 7 ай бұрын
Yup... It all seems and feels like a twisted simulation a lot of times... It's like falling in love then feeling like you've met or known somebody in some past life before you even met them before... But somehow each time it just wasn't meant to be... At least not for some of us in this life so far. Take the blue pill... And you're doomed to take the redpill... Take the redpills and you're doomed waking up to learn you were blue pilled in a world of Feminist fefails and evil bastards and beta simp manginas in a soy-society that doesn't give a damn about any of us 😓
@Cats-a-Tonic
@Cats-a-Tonic 5 ай бұрын
I have never, ever, ever, ever wanted to get married, but I would have Joscha as my husband in the snap of my fingers in my dream world. I would probably expire through getting zero sleep though, because I would just want him to talk to me (I'm a good listener!) non-stop all day and all night long.
@SevenRemedies
@SevenRemedies 7 ай бұрын
What personal self? Tell me where this personal self is located. You experience yourself do you. How? You do not experience yourself, it experiences sensation. A thought considers sensation as yourself, experiencing itself. Their are no photons, photons are concepts in thinkng. Which no one thinks, yet thinking still occurs. It's a paradox that cannot be explained by a mind. Because a mind believes itself as a separate object existing in time and space, living a life. All possibilities arise in the thought construct time and space, the possibility that you believe you are you, is one of them.
@heleen313
@heleen313 8 ай бұрын
Wow Joscha Bach on Tom!!! 🥳I’ve seen many interviews with Joscha and can’t wait to watch this one!
@ticklefights
@ticklefights 8 ай бұрын
Consciousness is the story we tell when we notice that we notice things and tell stories.
@Zekian
@Zekian 8 ай бұрын
Joscha Bach, my favorite Bach.
@eladpeleg745
@eladpeleg745 2 ай бұрын
I don't know J.S is also amazing
@tiptapkey
@tiptapkey 8 ай бұрын
In the end, it doesn't matter if we're in a simulation or not. This is all just another way to say life has no innate meaning and it's up to us to create and assign meaning to our lives.
@IAmBatman1
@IAmBatman1 8 ай бұрын
Why would that mean there is no meaning?
@oredaze
@oredaze 8 ай бұрын
This conclusion is the correct one. I just don't know if you can draw it from the simulation hypothesis. If we are in a simulation, maybe the sim creators have a certain goal assigned to the experiment, if we know that goal it changes things.
@IAmBatman1
@IAmBatman1 8 ай бұрын
@@oredaze the goal is to see if we destroy ourselves
@jimdandy8996
@jimdandy8996 8 ай бұрын
@@oredaze Their sadistic pleasure.
@rjjohnson2402
@rjjohnson2402 8 ай бұрын
For me it does matter that the universe is a simulation. Because the implication is that were playing a game. Reality is an illusion so nothing really matters. Thus I create what I want to matter.
@deemahdee
@deemahdee 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for having this incredible guest on.
@TomBilyeu
@TomBilyeu 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your support! What resonated most with you? Best, Impact Theory Community Manager
@matteo-pu7ev
@matteo-pu7ev 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Tom- you have a deep beautiful well structured mind! Joscha is one of my top dogs and you are becoming one as well.
@williameberle4250
@williameberle4250 8 ай бұрын
Stunning insights. If you think of God as something or someone worshiped externally, Bach's theory that God is actually a product of external inputs reaching a critical mass makes perfect sense. When the presence of God (or absolute Consciousness, infinity, the Changeless, or whatever you want to call it) becomes direct perception, all our theories seem quite droll.
@mattanderson6672
@mattanderson6672 6 ай бұрын
Wow, that was awesome, thanks!
@JuanRivasBedmar
@JuanRivasBedmar 5 ай бұрын
Good Interview. Good answers Congratulations Tom
@user-ph8fy8gj8x
@user-ph8fy8gj8x 8 ай бұрын
This is really helpful for my situation
@happyhobo2217
@happyhobo2217 8 ай бұрын
Omg my favorite person! What a treat!
@OfCourseICan
@OfCourseICan 3 ай бұрын
I get this. I've read Hoffman and many, many others. The controller that Joscha touches on got me: if you get this, you can then fill it with powerful, advantageous stuff, then visit it when required to do.
@DigitalDiggo
@DigitalDiggo 8 ай бұрын
JOSCHA, not Joshua
@DJSTOEK
@DJSTOEK 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Tom!
@mikel6728
@mikel6728 7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@remofurger2682
@remofurger2682 8 ай бұрын
Best podcast episode ever. Thanks for the questions and conversation!
@CrowMagnum
@CrowMagnum 8 ай бұрын
Consciousness exists in the feedback paths, some of which are tighter than others. Conciousness is an agent model which uses sensation, perception, reasoning, and discernment in a circular and fractal hierarchy of increasingly complex layers of sense making and regulation in service to integrating the increasing complexity.
@janich9406
@janich9406 7 ай бұрын
the wisdom of squirrels is deep, and yes very difficult to imagine having no joy watching them - i love the idea of them hoarding diligently, building caches all over the place and finding-building-rediscovering in almost the same way, one movement ... i also do this with different small things, coins for example (i'm swiss... ;-) ) ...
@BenjaminScott-vs2sv
@BenjaminScott-vs2sv 8 ай бұрын
I have to say thank you for the effort you make to educate. Just off your youtube videos alone, I was up 30%% last week and will be closing this week up 70%...............I appreciate you 🙏
@stevenheymans
@stevenheymans 8 ай бұрын
Joscha is amazing! He’s the first person that was able to convince me from a rational perspective that all this consciousness is real and actually leads to life changing insights. Before I thought this was spiritual nonsense and I can only see now how ignorant that was. 😮 Power of Now, Waking Up, .. for implementable in daily life
@so_k_rat_es__society3118
@so_k_rat_es__society3118 7 ай бұрын
He clearly states that he doesn't know whether Illusionism is true or not. Insights as you correctly pointed out are definitely a thing though.
@keithwins
@keithwins 5 сағат бұрын
2:30:30 JB " you should not identify with your beliefs, if you think you are the person with these beliefs it becomes very hard to change those beliefs"
@EricMHowardII-yh1rn
@EricMHowardII-yh1rn 8 ай бұрын
Paying attention to my spiritual needs in connection to personal studies of the scriptures I experienced more enjoyable learning that is priceless in connection to effective sharing daily.- 1 Corinthians 9:18-23 Thank you for talking brain Health in your podcast and some ads.
@JAYMOAP
@JAYMOAP 8 ай бұрын
Joscha is great
@aminblm
@aminblm 6 ай бұрын
Your genuine interest in your guests is truly inspiring, Tom! 🎙💫 #InspiringInterviews #GenuineInterest
@okeyokey578
@okeyokey578 8 ай бұрын
fascinating !
@user-cy3kb2vn8s
@user-cy3kb2vn8s 4 ай бұрын
Today, I was jogging at 6.2 speed with no incline on a treadmill. The treadmill suddenly, and unexpectedly, COMPLETELY STOPPED. I was shocked when I looked down and saw the motionless belt. Incredibly, both my feet had stopped also. I felt frozen in place. I had zero loss of balance, or any forward momentum. That exact moment didn't feel real. It was a moment of extreme fear, relief, and amazement. How could I react so quickly without notice? I'm 66 years old, and spend a lot of hours on the treadmill. I primarily speed walk at 4.5 speed, and occasionally jog at 6.2, and sprint at 8.2. I average 45 minutes of duration. Today I had been on the treadmill for just over an hour. I constantly vary my speed, cadence and stride and believe I'm always in total control. I've treadmilled 60+ miles in a day and have published a few posts explaining how I feel a connection between my brain, body, and the treadmill. My focus is locked into a spot on the treadmill headboard throughout my sessions. I'm constantly focused on stride symmetry. This extreme level of focus was perpetuated by my skeletal imbalance. I'm missing a significant part of my shoulder blade due to a jaw transplant. I wouldn't dare consider reinacting what happened today. It doesn't seem physically possible for me to stop simultaneously with the treadmill,and have no loss of balance or feel any forward momentum. Can someone explain how this would support the simulation argument? That moment was the most unreal moment of my life. The next closest were two near death experiences.
@CrowMagnum
@CrowMagnum 8 ай бұрын
Every new layer of complexity comes into being to regulate the one below. If there is a problem with a layer of regulation it doesn't necessarily mean it is bad, it may just mean the next layer of complexity is needed to keep things in check.
@dt4243
@dt4243 7 ай бұрын
So I am simulating my reality with people on youtube telling me I am living in my own simulation?
@ant_shotit
@ant_shotit 8 ай бұрын
THANK YOU OM ANOTHER AWESOME VIDEO!
@keithwins
@keithwins 6 сағат бұрын
1:50:00 JB The purpose of life is to find purpose. If we don't find purpose we will not fight for life in the same way It seems like life itself is ferociously inclined towards survival. Just watch plants grab every square centimeter they can get their dirty hands on... Life strives for itself, but there's a new layer that intelligence (or consciousness?) adds, new parameters to the function, dying for country or cause, sacrifice, resignment... This is really a crux, the question of our value as determined by our potential contributions (self-equated to our purposes). Many would argue for the innate value of humans, which is yes specist. This is such interesting material to think about.
@timb350
@timb350 7 ай бұрын
It is indeed notable...that, almost without exception, shows like this ask computer scientists questions that CLEARLY should be asked of philosophers and psychologists. Why do you suppose that is?
@ryand285
@ryand285 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate the talk. It seems like this whole simulation talk is just repeating the same spiritual beliefs we've had since ancient times using a modern vernacular. Instead of a spiritual world all around us that we effect we are in a matrix.
@ajblountful
@ajblountful 8 ай бұрын
Hard to wrap my head around. Good thoughts though.
@jcadh5652
@jcadh5652 7 ай бұрын
I believe that the simulation we ARE in was created for the same reason that we create simulators on earth. We are learning how everything works and when we are qualified enough we move on to the real Earth.
@keithwins
@keithwins 6 сағат бұрын
1:56:00 JB large language models are an electric Zeitgeist, they consume everything at once and reflect it
@MargaretMargaretKarjala
@MargaretMargaretKarjala 7 ай бұрын
Understanding personal finances and investing will most likely lead to greater financial independence. By being knowledgeable about money and investing, individuals can make informed decisions about how to save, spend, and invest their money. A trader made over $350k in this recession influenced market.
@jonas77718
@jonas77718 7 ай бұрын
Stocks are pretty unstable at the moment, but if you do the right math, you should be just fine. Bloomberg and other finance media have been recording cases of folks gaining over 250k just in a matter of weeks/couple months, so I think there are alot of wealth transfer in this downtime if you know where to look.
@KatyMccullars
@KatyMccullars 7 ай бұрын
The best course of action if you lack market knowledge is to ask a consultant or investing coach for guidance or assistance. Speaking with a consultant helped me stay afloat in the market and grow my portfolio to about 65% since January, even though I know it sounds obvious or generic. I believe that is the most effective way to enter the business at the moment.
@mark75700
@mark75700 7 ай бұрын
Please who is the consultant that assist you with your investment and if you don't mind, how do I get in touch with this person.
@KatyMccullars
@KatyMccullars 7 ай бұрын
My advisor is Stephanie Kopp Meeks highly qualified and experienced in the financial market. She has extensive knowledge of portfolio diversity and is considered an expert in the field. I recommend researching her credentials further. She has many years of experience and is a valuable resource for anyone looking to navigate the financial market.
@mark75700
@mark75700 7 ай бұрын
I am going to look her up, I have about $81k i want to start with, might be small but it's better than nothing though. Since the 08 crash is playing out again.
@user-er3di2jo3b
@user-er3di2jo3b 8 ай бұрын
Alright thanks for the recommendation, but how do I reach them
@SunnyDayTeaFactory
@SunnyDayTeaFactory 7 ай бұрын
Humans of the future, if we make it, will honor this man as a great philospher.
@brady167
@brady167 7 ай бұрын
To overcome the most amount of entropy for the longest period of time, everybody should end their lives in the least energetic way possible. Harvesting negative entropy requires a lot of entropy.
@douglasgarth
@douglasgarth 8 ай бұрын
Clever, but he still sits on the bowl every morning.
@HOMAKiNGh7k
@HOMAKiNGh7k 8 ай бұрын
If you’re looking for miracle, just go to the church
@keithwins
@keithwins 6 сағат бұрын
2:07:00 jb don't form shared opinions, form friendships
@ladyboni
@ladyboni 8 ай бұрын
Starts with “if I’m right” 😂😂😂😂
@tonyjoanes
@tonyjoanes 7 ай бұрын
Does anyone know what the hell these guys are talking about
@maynardkeen85
@maynardkeen85 6 ай бұрын
Really wish Bach would do all his interviews in-person
@NathanTilesTheWorld
@NathanTilesTheWorld 6 ай бұрын
At 2:24:25 in can anyone understand the term joscha uses? Downward causation?
@MariaGarcia-ww7od
@MariaGarcia-ww7od 7 ай бұрын
digest food really well
@VwhyX
@VwhyX 8 ай бұрын
« Evidence we’re in a simulation « nope « Evidence we’re living in lies » yes
@mizum3458
@mizum3458 7 ай бұрын
It's both
@VwhyX
@VwhyX 7 ай бұрын
@@mizum3458 for sure we live in a world of incertitude
@mizum3458
@mizum3458 7 ай бұрын
@@VwhyX what does that mean doe?
@miketreker944
@miketreker944 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Tom and Joscha! The moral police have ruined the LLM's like Bard for instance. I was writing a short story draft and at times I thought the LLM was discovering the world in this story and itself, sentient. However, if I approached PG13 the censors would threaten me. If anyone can recommend a LLM program please recommend.
@ministerofust
@ministerofust 8 ай бұрын
Very important topic, but the guest is all over the place.
@christopherhembree8839
@christopherhembree8839 8 ай бұрын
For me ever atom is conscious. Every cell everything that surrounds you and in you. Everything is life alive
@exile7869
@exile7869 8 ай бұрын
Based on his logic AI could become our monolith like to 2001 space odyssey Overall it deemed intelligent life is rare in the universe. So it makes a prime goal to identify species or beings that have potential to be intelligent sentient beings and plays a long game to assist them to evolve
@grossidealist
@grossidealist 18 күн бұрын
Great talk.
@mr.t3017
@mr.t3017 8 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved this conversation as it was very interesting.... Many blessings, and thanks for invoking my imagination this morning ❤
@TomBilyeu
@TomBilyeu 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day. Best, Impact Theory Community Manager
@keithwins
@keithwins 7 сағат бұрын
1:44:00 TB drive is the thing that scares me. This speaks to me of the challenge of wisdom. If I think of wisdom as maximizing the alignment of my goals with the best "big picture", and without exploring those goals or the picture I can still notice that developing wisdom is something that doesn't even happen easily in humans, it seems to have to be ushered and coaxed and supported into existence. It seems like that might be equally true for an artificial intelligence. The challenge seems that as they come into self-consciousness or drive, and if they are like humans, those early influences are distortedly significant, perhaps having to do with the experience of time by an organism being born/growing up, perhaps later with growing old... I wonder how and if an AI will experience these things.
@bastianrivero
@bastianrivero 7 ай бұрын
Please put time tags
@v1kt0u5
@v1kt0u5 8 ай бұрын
2:22:52 It is also called "paranoia" 🤔
@EmKazy-mp1qo
@EmKazy-mp1qo 8 ай бұрын
Do you know how much is ok for a start let me know if I can do this...
@brazenclips
@brazenclips 7 ай бұрын
Is there a good summarization edit of this episodes?
@George70220
@George70220 7 ай бұрын
Your brain
@goverment457
@goverment457 8 ай бұрын
You cant learn when you sleep? I think the unconcious can teach you when sleeping
@Anza_34832
@Anza_34832 3 ай бұрын
@1:02:28 and onward: “We [human mankind] are not smart…and might eventually be replaced.” @1:05:04 “We may create new species” referring to possible Cyborg species as the “extension of life”. @1:36:29 “Transhumanism”: war between enhanced and conventional, less advanced humans. @1:46:00 “Agency and the Game to Play.” Human transcendence in conjunction with artificial intelligence. Brilliant thinker. Dry as a scientist. Some might be shocked listening to him talking. 🇩🇪 Joscha certainly is a special character. Let’s see if evolution is set to continue the way he is envisioning.
@masoudmaani
@masoudmaani 8 ай бұрын
Joscha FTW I tell ya!
@rickstokes2239
@rickstokes2239 8 ай бұрын
Sim or not, if people aren’t ready for what’s coming things will get pretty Real.
@mizum3458
@mizum3458 7 ай бұрын
It's already been real... It's just going to get a lot more crazy
@aaroncrutcher5957
@aaroncrutcher5957 7 ай бұрын
Sounds like God's plan. Not ours
@markus9541
@markus9541 8 ай бұрын
Joscha is awesome. One of the few people I am proud of sharing a nationality with.
@DigitalDiggo
@DigitalDiggo 8 ай бұрын
The headline/title of this video is very deceptive and misspells Joscha's name. Bach has never claimed the universe is simulated or that "we" are living in a simulation. He has never made "we are living in The Matrix" claims. He has made the simple observation that our brain constructs an approximate simulation of reality because we are unable to access details which cannot be detected by our (limited) senses. This is also the claim made by the host. The clickbait headline implies the universe itself is a simulation (and therefore we are simulations, like a computer game) - this is not the view of Bach or Bilyeu.
@user-vn7eg6rg8q
@user-vn7eg6rg8q 2 ай бұрын
So, i think i need to listen to this everyday, it is almost like classical music to me, cos the way it blows my mind. movement after movement.
@Saeder
@Saeder 8 ай бұрын
1:44:03 wish this part of the conversation hadn’t been cut off so abruptly :(
@ricodelta1
@ricodelta1 8 ай бұрын
Bach vs Hoffman Can this happen?
@CrowMagnum
@CrowMagnum 8 ай бұрын
Longest game suggests the end justifies the means. The most comprehensive game would include the most games in the most scales of spacetime.
@Corteum
@Corteum 7 ай бұрын
If it's a simulation, then what is it simulating?
@raybo780
@raybo780 4 ай бұрын
True virtuosos make it look easy, effortless. The way Joscha opens my mind up to new possibilities and concepts is like watching tiger woods crush a US Open. Makes me think like I can SWING like THAT
@hotpick3lottopredictionsmore
@hotpick3lottopredictionsmore 8 ай бұрын
Let's gooooo
@teemukupiainen3684
@teemukupiainen3684 7 ай бұрын
We are in deep shit!!! If our best hope is that ASI keeps us as pets or decoration...being ASI, why should I keep me instead my Husky...she is 100 times more beautiful and she has got 1000 times better character than me.🎻🎻🎻
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