Tommy Gun's Rock Band 2 (and 3, 4, Beatles, etc.) Manual Calibration Guide (papercraft)

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CrackedRabbitGaming

CrackedRabbitGaming

16 жыл бұрын

An explanation of the Rock Band 2 calibration settings, and how to manually calibrate your system without using their tools. I'm using drums as an example, but of course it also applies to guitar.
Update: this also works for Beatles: Rock Band, Green Day: Rock Band, Rock Band 3, Rock Band 4, and Rock Band Blitz. The original Rock Band uses a different system. All modern Guitar Hero games use the same concept, so this should be helpful with those, too.
The timing windows are MUCH bigger in Blitz, so it may be hard to really find the center. Then again, you don't really need to.
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2016 Update: Deeper explanation and suggestions from morphinapg:
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Suggestion from woozerkristen for calibrating audio:
-Start with an audio calibration setting you know you can hit even if it's a touch off (I found out through this experiment that the audio window is really wide). I started with 0 because that used to be the correct setting on RB2 and I knew I could hit most stuff with a moderate tempo with that setting without feeling "off."
-Pick a song that you can play without looking at the screen, at least for a few seconds. I picked Blitzkrieg Bop bass for this.
-With your initial setting, play a section of the song watching the screen to see what the score should be if you hit everything.
-Play it again with your back to the screen (should have still hit everything).
-Work your way in one direction adding (or subtracting) 10ms to the calibration settings, then return and play the song again.
-If you find a setting where you miss, play it a second time. If you combo it all again, keep going with adjusting the numbers. If you miss again and didn't recognize yourself making a mistake, you have probably reached the edge of the audio timing window. You may want to test again by moving back 5ms in the opposite direction (such as, if you started missing at -40, back up to -35 and -30 if necessary). Write this number down. (In my case, I got to -35).
-Now go back to your starting point and start adding increments of 10. Go through the same process and figure out where you start missing consistently to figure out the other end of the audio timing window. (Mine was +55)
-Find the midpoint in the two numbers (in my case, +10). That's your audio calibration setting.
Basically, I just took the same principle as TG's suggestion to find the middle of the "hit box" for the video calibration and applied it to the audio. Worked like a charm and now I'm back to comboing fast strumming sections fairly consistently again.
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@CrackedRabbitGaming
@CrackedRabbitGaming 6 жыл бұрын
UPDATE: Be sure to check out the description (click "show more" under the cover art) for better/alternative ways to calibrate!
@Clitches
@Clitches 3 жыл бұрын
Dude no way you r still around!
@CrackedRabbitGaming
@CrackedRabbitGaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@Clitches I am! And still playing RB! My Rivals crew has made Bloodstone every season!
@gtarshredr
@gtarshredr 5 жыл бұрын
It's 2019 and I still come back to this video whenever I get a new TV. It's a life saver
@sleezyez6210
@sleezyez6210 4 жыл бұрын
Kyler Koets how do you calibrate yours? I still can’t get mine
@pacodurazo
@pacodurazo 4 жыл бұрын
April 2020 (during Covid-19) still using this amazing video to calibrate RB Rivals!
@FlintlockYT
@FlintlockYT 7 жыл бұрын
I love the low-tech approach here. Great diagrams.
@davidmod03
@davidmod03 3 жыл бұрын
I've been struggling with RB4 since day one and today, 5 years later, I was finally able to calibrate it properly. Thanks a lot!
@DarktechKelly
@DarktechKelly 12 жыл бұрын
I cannot tell you how immensely helpful this video was, mate. I really appreciate you making this!
@christophercourter4757
@christophercourter4757 7 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy i found this! it explains why i was having such a hard time. Nobody visualized it like this, and i thank you for it.
@accolade.99
@accolade.99 Ай бұрын
This video is so useful and relevant even still almost 16 years later, it's gotten to the point where people born AFTER this video came out are now being helped by it. Insane.
@TitanicGaming32
@TitanicGaming32 8 жыл бұрын
4:41 "If you have a second person, it might be easier. Alone, it's pretty tough." Yeah right like I have friends
@dudeonmars
@dudeonmars 2 ай бұрын
15 years later and still very useful, this is absolutely genius, I use it every time!
@CrackedRabbitGaming
@CrackedRabbitGaming 2 ай бұрын
Glad it helps!
@wytsox1076
@wytsox1076 12 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt the most useful and easy to understand video on youtube as far as calibration. Excellent video that i recommend to all my friends that play RB or GH.
@TheEric1203
@TheEric1203 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I was trying to do this on my green day rock band that i just got, and now it should be a lot easier. This really clears it up nicely, the graphics and annotations you drew really helped.
@Gary-tc7zx
@Gary-tc7zx 9 жыл бұрын
Super helpful, thanks so much. I played on a standard tv back in the day. I played expert guitar very well and it needs to be synced perfectly, and I finally got it working really well on my HDTV
@Pestilence204
@Pestilence204 2 жыл бұрын
I used this video to help me calibrate Rock Band 2 back in the day, and now I’m using it again for Clone Hero drums. Thanks for the great explanation!
@TheRealQuiff
@TheRealQuiff 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great video and great explanation of the calibration settings. I used this on Rock Band 3 and it worked a charm. I'd played all the previous Rock Bands (including 3) and Guitar Heroes on a CRT TV so there was never any need for calibration, but I recently upgraded to a HD TV and was having major trouble calibrating properly until I found this vid. Thanks again.
@The0IdMan
@The0IdMan 16 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best Rock Band 2 video ever made. I have the new strat with auto calibration and it works perfectly, but if you don't have access to the guitar, this video is just as good if you take the time to follow it correctly. Added it to my favorites so I can find it when I need to link other people to it. Great work.
@Krevak
@Krevak 16 жыл бұрын
This guide was the most helpful thing I've seen! RB1 was calibrated perfectly but since I had RB2 I've not enjoyed it one bit until I saw this! Your explanation was perfect and helped me identify where the problem was. RB2 was telling me my video lag was 96ms and it's actually 20ms. Thanks heaps!
@milladrive
@milladrive 13 жыл бұрын
This is an incredibly thoughtful, concise, and helpful instruction. Thank you.
@coldshot2112
@coldshot2112 15 жыл бұрын
nice video man, i just bought the new drums today for rockband 2 and had such a hard time gettin them synched up rite, ur vid helped out alot thanx!
@celuis9
@celuis9 4 жыл бұрын
Felt like playing this on ps3 after all these years on a 4K tv, boy it was way off so looked for help here and found your video. Your explanation and video was lit and helpful. Thanks.
@madspecv
@madspecv 11 жыл бұрын
Dude, great video! I just got myself the Ion drum kit with the pro cymbals and I was going crazy with the calibration. Followed you instructions and BAM, right on the money. Thanks again man, really appreciate it.
@CrackedRabbitGaming
@CrackedRabbitGaming 15 жыл бұрын
Back when GH2 came out, my cousin came over to play and loaded his memory card. After struggling through a few songs, I checked his calibration and it was set all weird, and he didn't even know it! But he was used to those settings since that's how it had been the whole time.
@cristianroque9770
@cristianroque9770 6 ай бұрын
Just got Rock Band 4 and this really helped me with my problem with calibration, thanks so much!
@silv3rst0rm
@silv3rst0rm 13 жыл бұрын
This is sooooo Awesome! I used to rely on RB's calibration tool to get the settings as good as it could get but would still get frustrated missing notes I really tought I had hit. This video made me tweak it a bit and some fine tuning did the trick! Now I can get some 100%. My settings for a 42" LG LCD 120Hz ends up being: Video:120ms / Audio : 50ms
@lazytommy0
@lazytommy0 3 жыл бұрын
If i had the money bro, I'd give donation for this. God tier quality and a true godsend
@Serpentd
@Serpentd 16 жыл бұрын
Wow dude, thanks for that visual display you came up with. That really helped put things in perspective. I know my game is pretty far out of sinc and your simple tutorial helped a lot. I always get confused with the + or - thing for some reason. I actually think I will set up a video recorder and analyze it that way, we'll see. Anyway, Thanks a million.
@jerridthomas79
@jerridthomas79 15 жыл бұрын
Wanted to post again to tell you thanks! Finally did this seriously w/guitar. Absolutely wonderful explanation! My Hotel LCD was +200 audio, +65 vid. Compared to the game calibration's +121 audio, +126 video. Right on the nutz. Also - For those doing Guitar Calibration - Eye of the Tiger on Medium is great song to try one, plus is right there on the quickplay first page, so fast REaccess over and over. Thanks again. THumbs UP
@scallo2j
@scallo2j 8 жыл бұрын
Used this for Rock Band 2 and 3, and it worked a treat. Was happy with the original auto calibration when RB4 came out but since the December 8 update it wasn't anywhere near as good. Came back to youtube and found this is still the best explanation. For the record had to adjust the video up 20ms and audio down 30ms, a decent difference. Also, used the woozerkristen audio calibration method, took some time but definitely worth it to find that middle. Audio window went from 120ms up to 290ms.
@CrackedRabbitGaming
@CrackedRabbitGaming 8 жыл бұрын
+Steve Scally Glad to hear it!
@t3hwookiee
@t3hwookiee 15 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, this was really helpful! We couldn't get auto calibrate to work, but there was some definite lag. Now it's fixed!
@Just22Jas33
@Just22Jas33 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! FINALLYYY someone that can explain it perfectly. Going to try this with Guitar Hero 3 now, after wondering for 2+ years, just wtf I'm suppose to change after calibrating. I bet I'm going to be even better at "Through the Fire and the Flames" on Hard & Expert! 🤘 Thanks dude!
@Just22Jas33
@Just22Jas33 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. Idk what to do now, for Guitar Hero 3. My video setting is on 0ms. My Audio is on 116ms. But Audio seemed in sync with the notes, while I played without looking at the TV. But looking at it, it looks and feels like the notes are still going past where you're supposed to strum. So that would mean you would bring back the notes (or video) some. But I'm already at 0.
@straightjacketclub
@straightjacketclub 12 жыл бұрын
Hello. Just a quick message to say thank you for this video. If anyone is looking at the comments and wondering whether to sit through the 7 minutes (plus time taken to do it yourself) I seriously advise that you do - and this is coming from a perfectionist. I had frustratingly managed to get by before but now I have managed to 100%/5 gs songs that I couldn't have done before. This video is brilliant!!! :D
@CrackedRabbitGaming
@CrackedRabbitGaming 16 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped! I had no luck with the RB2 tools either, they were totally inconsistent.
@TOPolk
@TOPolk 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips! I was finally able to calibrate Rock Band 3. I figured out Guitar Hero through trial and error, but never understood the mechanics behind it. 'Preciate it!
@machinaeMA
@machinaeMA 11 жыл бұрын
Excellent work. Helped me calibrate my Guitar Hero. Keep up the good work man!
@rsuarezgiaco
@rsuarezgiaco 15 жыл бұрын
Crackeddrabbit Thanks so much! Calibrating the beatles rock band was a nightmare until I came across this video, what worked for me is that I had to invert the plus/minus signs, it seems it is different on this new game... thanks again for posting this great guide!!!
@omarthepsycho
@omarthepsycho 12 жыл бұрын
Dude thank you SOOOO much for the tips on figuring out the right calibration. Im new to rock band and its such a pain thinking that im the one messing up when its really the audio and video being out of synch, though that wont be happening anymore now that they are matched up the way they should be. :)
@c3pu2
@c3pu2 10 жыл бұрын
This is great I was about to give up on rock band 3 never had lag issue on any guitar hero. Then I start playing rock band and everything is off now its playable just have to get used to the unintelligible hammer on pull off notes.
@mapleton123
@mapleton123 12 жыл бұрын
This is going to save us HOURS of trial and error and endless arguing. Thank you so much! You've explained this in a manner that is extremely easy to understand. Great job!
@blakdragon826
@blakdragon826 15 жыл бұрын
This video helped me out a lot! Thank you so much for posting this. One of the old comments said "Eye of the Tiger" on medium is good for calibration. It works great. But when you think you've got it, test out your settings on a fast-paced song like "Go with the Flow" by Queens of the Stone Age or something similar.
@InfinitySpiritD
@InfinitySpiritD 7 жыл бұрын
Video helped a lot, man. It took a while, but I think I got my guitar as calibrated as I can notice to get it. lol
@bassgod985
@bassgod985 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great explanation. It helped me figure it out
@wizardnin
@wizardnin 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This helped me calibrate my Roland TD-11KV drums to RB3!
@markuscc
@markuscc 13 жыл бұрын
This is still the greatest calibration video of all time!
@KpXDrgn
@KpXDrgn 15 жыл бұрын
you are a god in my eyes sir. this even worked with what i thought was an impossible fix for guitar hero 3 on the ps3.
@SDK2K9
@SDK2K9 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this mate I finally got the calibration settings perfected. Thanks. :)
@alexhottensen4224
@alexhottensen4224 4 ай бұрын
Video is still helping man. Thank you!
@MapleFr3ak
@MapleFr3ak 15 жыл бұрын
HOLY CRAP AWESOME. I tried using the autocalibration. It set the settings into the 90-110 range. My good settings are much lower. When I tested the guitar with autocalibration, IIRC, it set the note at the top of the hit window, meaning I could hit much late and not early. I might try it again though. Also, it's a fun thing to note that I "imported" the settings from RB1 (although they have the order swapped). I seriously liked RB1's way of calibrating better.
@TOEC
@TOEC 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. It was a huge help.
@Crosseyes12
@Crosseyes12 15 жыл бұрын
despite its tediousness, this method is actually alot more effective than the automatic way they do it in the game, thanks for the help!
@TitanicGaming32
@TitanicGaming32 8 жыл бұрын
Once you perfectly calibrate, add 5 or 10 ms to both video and audio. This will move the hitbox up slightly. This will solve instrument lag concerns.
@Simo606
@Simo606 14 жыл бұрын
awesome video dude, helped me out alot
@EliteFetishist
@EliteFetishist 14 жыл бұрын
This is very well explained so i recomand this video to any serious RB players. I already guessed exactly the same stuff but my problem is with the latest Guitar Hero episodes. It seems i NEED negative audio calibration,wich is not allowed in these games (when RB allows it) So please make an explanation for Guitar Hero (world tour,metallica,etc) calibration!
@jerridthomas79
@jerridthomas79 16 жыл бұрын
Nice video. And I am a big fan of retro graphics/visual aids! Thanks
@ex0du565
@ex0du565 15 жыл бұрын
Even then I remember RB1 (at least on the PS3) was not properly calibrated at 0/0 on a CRT, both before the lag patch, and after. I know it did change with the lag patch on the 360, but I'm not sure how so. Anyways man, great video. I always have trouble telling people how to do this (wasn't quite down with how the +/- moved the audio/video sync), so this will be a great go-to video.
@TR1KxOPS
@TR1KxOPS 9 жыл бұрын
that was actually extremely helpful, thank you
@gnutz87
@gnutz87 14 жыл бұрын
bout time I got mine fixed. thanks alot, this made so much sense!
@Jamies44heartbeat
@Jamies44heartbeat 12 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Good work.
@DrewWorkman
@DrewWorkman 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video!! Total lifesaver!!!
@JadedAce8727
@JadedAce8727 3 жыл бұрын
Happy I found this smart man 🤘
@Gimnbo
@Gimnbo 16 жыл бұрын
I knew to do all of this so the big thing I got from this video is to which direction the positive and negative lag correspond. It's a very nice video nonetheless and will be very helpful until I can get a RB2 guitar.
@kc8876
@kc8876 7 жыл бұрын
Really well done, man.
@egyokeo
@egyokeo 16 жыл бұрын
great video! i'll try it out when i get RB2.
@PotatoDonki
@PotatoDonki 16 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video! Keep it up.
@CrackedRabbitGaming
@CrackedRabbitGaming 15 жыл бұрын
The RB manual has some recommended settings, CRT is 0/0 I believe, but it all depends on if you're running it through separate speakers, etc. If you're constantly on two setups, I'd just calibrate manually for each, and write down the settings.
@AaronMaxwell384
@AaronMaxwell384 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, perfect video. Worked great
@EmberIslandPlayer
@EmberIslandPlayer 8 жыл бұрын
The addition of Rock Band 4's Brutal Mode actually makes testing for the audio a lot easier now. The notes are actually hidden, so playing along actually requires you to listen for when to hit rather than relying on your sight.
@poppinlochnesshopster3249
@poppinlochnesshopster3249 8 жыл бұрын
+Eric Simpson That's interesting, I play brutal mode differently, the sound doesn't help more than normal, I just focus my eyes on the top of the screen and mentally add delay on when I should hit the notes, it works pretty automatically.
@EmberIslandPlayer
@EmberIslandPlayer 8 жыл бұрын
You're right. Barring perfect memorization of the whole chart you still need the brief visual it gives you. However, for timing you rely on the audio much more than usual. What's great about it is because you focus less on the visual, that feeling of playing an instrument is enhanced. The illusion that you're hitting the buttons is causing the music to play is stronger because you're timing is more in tune with the music than the gems.
@nemuyume
@nemuyume 14 жыл бұрын
great guide dude. i will try this ;)
@dylmax12jazz
@dylmax12jazz 15 жыл бұрын
Hey just another little tip here: If you are calibrating for guitar... Play the "Give it All" Guitar Intro... Its just simple chords that are really slow. It really helped me out :)
@pacodurazo
@pacodurazo Жыл бұрын
2023 and i keep comming back to this video!
@markuscc
@markuscc 13 жыл бұрын
I have a tip for the audio portion of this. If you put a piece of paper above and below the strum indicator part on the screen it makes it 10000000 times easier. Leave a very small slit between the top and bottom piece and then you see that match up the audio to when that slit lights up. You should have the slit at the bottom of strum indication bar to have things as accurate as possible.
@anonony9081
@anonony9081 3 ай бұрын
Oh man that haircut brings me back to my youth lol. thanks for the video this is still helpful
@tonydraxler
@tonydraxler 13 жыл бұрын
@konrad93 the reason you see the effects more and it's a bigger problem for higher level players is because you have more notes in a shorter space. So if you're 20MS off there may be another note that already came through. On Easy, you may miss 1 note, but on Expert if you're playing a song with a blistering guitar solo, a 20MS delay really can cause you to miss every note
@JayPerkinson
@JayPerkinson 10 жыл бұрын
Did exactly what I needed for RB3. Had not played in a year and had a new TV/receiver and was all way off. Thanks again.
@markuscc
@markuscc 15 жыл бұрын
I used this video and spent probably 4 or 5 hours in total messing around with the settings. After i got the correct settings using this video i just ran the auto calibration and compared the two results. Seems the audio calibration is spot on but the video is off by 35-40 every time. You can strum on time or late but not early at all. Run the auto calibration, leave what it gives for audio, subtract 40 from the video results = win. I did this on a ps3 but the 360 is probably the same.
@ItsSully
@ItsSully 15 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. This helped tons.
@paulink
@paulink 8 жыл бұрын
great video for rock band 4!
@CrackedRabbitGaming
@CrackedRabbitGaming 8 жыл бұрын
+paulink Thanks! I don't have RB4 yet, because I'm waiting for the MIDI pro adapter. :( I may do an updated version of this video, since this is pretty old!
@paulink
@paulink 8 жыл бұрын
+CrackedRabbitGaming Sorry to hear about that, I know it works on ps4 but Xbox one owners have to wait for a solution D: hopefully they come up with something.
@poppinlochnesshopster3249
@poppinlochnesshopster3249 8 жыл бұрын
+paulink why not use the guitar's sensor to calibrate it? I have RB4 on PS4 and the guitar's calibration worked perfectly, tested it blind with another person watching.
@paulink
@paulink 8 жыл бұрын
Xendrus Idziak pre december patch, auto calibration was not working very well. Post december patch, auto calibration is perfect.
@poppinlochnesshopster3249
@poppinlochnesshopster3249 8 жыл бұрын
paulink Fair enough.
@CrackedRabbitGaming
@CrackedRabbitGaming 14 жыл бұрын
I can't give specific advice because that's not the setup I use, but the method I explain in this video should help you. Have you tried calibrating in the order I give? Maybe someone with a similar setup can help.
@yeah.cheers
@yeah.cheers 13 жыл бұрын
Thank you helped A LOT.
@Poldi79de
@Poldi79de 13 жыл бұрын
This video made my day (week? Month? year?!?!). Best explanation of the whole calibration system!!! Finally I can play RockBand like it's meant to be! P.S. really cute paperwork (still functional!)
@stephen9686
@stephen9686 Ай бұрын
i was 1 years old when this came out i now have a les paul myself in 2024 at 16 needing this guide
@HarmoniousChirp
@HarmoniousChirp 14 жыл бұрын
This is what I did: First I used the audio calibration tool with the drums, so you can actually hear when you're hitting in relation to the beeps. You know this is correct when the metronome in practice syncs up. Video didn't go so well, so I did trial and error with that.
@GreatDood5
@GreatDood5 8 жыл бұрын
great guide, thanks
@HiJakOG
@HiJakOG 2 жыл бұрын
Dude. Love this video and hair style.
@thebritishviking
@thebritishviking 6 ай бұрын
What the heck this worked immediately. The auto calibration was garbage in comparison to this method. You're an actual god
@NightmareLyra
@NightmareLyra 13 жыл бұрын
Hmm this might help indeed, thanks for the video, gonna try this tomorow
@MarcoScapelitte
@MarcoScapelitte 16 жыл бұрын
Sweet video dude.
@Spyderguy186
@Spyderguy186 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, really appreciate the help.
@CrackedRabbitGaming
@CrackedRabbitGaming 12 жыл бұрын
@straightjacketclub Thanks! So glad it helped. Rock Band is frustrating if you don't have it calibrated, and unfortunately that's how most people play it!
@Mardil
@Mardil 15 жыл бұрын
very useful man, thanks
@CrackedRabbitGaming
@CrackedRabbitGaming 15 жыл бұрын
No problem, glad it helped!
@MattMcKinnon2000
@MattMcKinnon2000 16 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks.
@troythegoat69_17
@troythegoat69_17 6 ай бұрын
It’s 2024 and you saved my life brother
@wiibaron
@wiibaron 11 жыл бұрын
Put a song on practice mode at easy and 70% speed. Mute the sound. Pick 1 color of note and strum/hit early on purpose until you find the space 'before' that will be a hit. Then hit/strum late on purpose and find out if your late space is bigger than your early space. If the early is bigger, add[+}10 or 20ms to manual video calibration and try the practice/easy/70% again until it is 50/50 early/late. Audio next; close your eyes and play a bass track that is a constant 1 note beat[G,G,G,G,G,G,G]
@silverbogie
@silverbogie 15 жыл бұрын
great vid! Also, Tommy Gunn (with 2 n's) was th name of the antagonist in Rocky V! :) I knew I remembered the name from somewhere.
@RedDragonius
@RedDragonius 13 жыл бұрын
One of my only worries about having my HD T.V just got wiped out completely! Thanks man! :D
@ydyammo
@ydyammo 15 жыл бұрын
Top score!!! To think that KZfaq actually was going to have something useful.. ;) Jokes aside... This helped a LOT. Thank You!
@landonjones118
@landonjones118 4 жыл бұрын
thanks i finally got rock band working
@lightness_senpai
@lightness_senpai 13 жыл бұрын
This helped me a lot too, thank you! =D
@Safor002
@Safor002 15 жыл бұрын
I agree. This is great.
@djdanny101
@djdanny101 15 жыл бұрын
nice video, thanks
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