Danke! Ein Abo wäre klasse😉

フロッグはええで。わしのは金のコイルや。

Yes, the Frog is on the bright side but with older Jazzrecords it could be a wonderful system. It has only played about 50hours. I think the top end will be a little bit more reserved after more hours.

in a youtube video - you can't tell ANYTHING from this. You have to be in the room listening. I'd like to know the 'reviewer's reflections on the matter

@@antigen4 If you're listening through a well resolving system, you can certainly hear the difference. I of course appreciate a reviewer's thoughts but love these demonstrations as well. My listen is provided by a Pioneer SX-3900 through a pair of JBL 4430's, paired to my desktop. The differences are very apparent.

@@satanertau2689 アンプは何や？アンプが一番重要や！

JBL 2395 i use no stepup transformer, but a Pass XP-25 phonopre.

Thank you for your reply. We are considering purchasing Dyna Vector. Can I use the SME arm?

I sold the DV, because for me it had to less resolution. On KZfaq you hear a little difference to the Frog, but hearing on my audio system, there is a big difference to the VdH. The Frog sounds with a few more resolution and bigger stage. No i run the Frog furthermore in the SME V, but the Origin Live Tonearm and DV cartridge are sold. At this place no is a Schroder CB arm and a Soundsmith MIMC. I love this combination!

More natural, correct?

Возможно, но мне кажется что XX2 звучит по сочнее в обертонах, особенно это слышно в первом сравнении начало видео обратите внимание на удар палочки барабана, не хайхэта именно палочки удар....

It is difficult to hear the difference here, but direct from vinyl it is instantly hearable.

@@Orangeaudio1 そう思うな。デジタルにしたらもともこもない。カートリッジの音やなくなる。

​@@user-sv9yk2vy4d I have a completely different opinion

Hi, bei 0:25 siehst Du es. Von der Pass in ein RME Fireface. Ja, die Platte ist toll!

Ah... im Eifer des Gefechts glatt übersehen - danke für die Info! Muss ich demnächst auch mal testen sowas in der Art. Highfidele Grüße aus Frankfurt :-)

カートリッジの音は、チョク接聴かな、デジタル録音したら意味がない。

One turntable with two different arms.

Thanks. In that case there's a second variable to be considered in evaluating the sonic differences we hear....

@@julianjechev7949 I had the carts on several arms and the signature/difference was always the same

The Brahm´s Cellosonata. I recorded it for a friends friend, who played well. Without notes...unfortunetaly he decided to delete the video on youtube, because he was disappointed with his performance. I do not think so...

Orangeaudio1 I really enjoyed it and wish I could find a good copy of this on vinyl. Would you have any recommendations? I’m not an expert with this, but would love to hear that on my turn table. I picked up a copy of the first record you mentioned too. It’s quite nice!

A friend said something with Heinrich Schiff. www.discogs.com/de/Bach-Heinrich-Schiff-Cello-Suiten-Cello-Suites-Nos-1-6/release/3543705

Ich habe den Feickert nicht mehr. Das muss auf das Gewicht gerechnet werden, wobei das Sylomerpad nicht zu klein werden darf. Hier war es das Gelbe SR55. Im Analogforum wird das besprochen. Kann dir die Fläche auch ausrechnen, wenn ich das Gewicht weiß

Hi, no i use SR11, the yellow one and blackend it with Edding.

Many thanks for your friendly answer.

You have to calculate the size of the Sylomer fitting to the weight of your record player. If you tell me the weight i can help you.

Two turntables : 6 and 9 kg each. Many thanks

armandogui1 SR11 0.0011N/Qmm For examble 6kg:0.0011=5400 545 : 3 (for 3 pieces)=1800 √1800 = 134 So you need 3 pieces with 134x134mm

yes!

Yes

Hallo Katja, ich war auch enttäuscht wie wenig von dem doch sehr deutlichen Unterschie übrig bleibt. Auf der Anlage selbst, ist der Unterschied massiv und entspricht ziemlich genau dem, was Du geschrieben hast. Das DV klingt sehr warm, zurückhaltend, analog. Bei keiner Platte klingt es gestresst. Das Frog läuft nochmal deutlich ruhiger in der Rille. Zuvor lief parallel ein EMT JSD6. Als ich das Frog das erste Mal auf die Platte setzte, war ich total überrascht, wie leise es die Leerrille abtastet. Zudem hat es im Hochton deutlich mehr Auflösung und hat eine viel größere Bühne. Zu 90% bevorzuge ich klar das Frog. Nur zu hell aufgenommene Platten machen damit keinen Spaß. Was mir immer wieder auffällt, am Kopfhörer kann man eine breite Bühne/Staffelung überhaupt nicht beurteilen. 100Ohm an beiden, ja. Das Frog kann man auch mit 200, 300 oder 1kOhm laufen lassen. Je nach Aufnahme...ich bin aber bei 100 hängen geblieben. Mir ist klar, dass das DV weniger Innenwiderstand hat und viele es mit 50Ohm laufen lassen. Bei mir, mit dem gut bedämpften Multilayer Carbonrohr des OL-Armes, verträgt es eigentlich noch mehr an Abschlusswiderstand. Es sind aber keine Welten, was sich hier tun. Bei MM-Systemen und einer variierenden Kapazität tut sich da mehr.

Schlipperschlopper Mir hat keines der Systeme über 1000€ gekostet, mag aber die Aussage trotzdem bezweifeln.

Sehr lobenswerter Kommentar von Schlipperschlopper. Hier hat einer daheim einen Direktvergleich mit den gleichen Komponenten gemacht. Und sie danach zurück zum Händler gebracht. So viel Aufwand für so ein ernüchterndes Ergebnis.

No. Jan Allaerts and Supex actual and a Grado at the Micro Seiki

At that time i wondered too. In real life the difference was easy to hear and much more than after the recording. The Pass XP25 is a very good phono stage and certainly has its positive influence.

@@Orangeaudio1 I recently bought a VDH MC ONE Special, and it is quite a bit better than the Dynavector XX MK II it replaced. Much more clarity and the instruments sound more real. It was also less expensive than the Dynavector. I'm using a Parasound Halo JC 3+ phono stage.

@@jerryjerry3904 VdH cartridges are very good in case of clarity and the sound impresses at the beginning with the emphasis in the treble, but after a few years, I no longer liked it.

www.rrg.de/schwingungstechnik/sylomer-sylodyn-sylodamp/sylomer/ It is used to uncouple machines from the ground and a lot people use it for HiFi. It is cheap😉

@@Orangeaudio1 thanks

@@Orangeaudio1 what density did you use? sr42. ..sr110 ...?

@@maxcasci7432 You have to calculate the locating surface to the weight, to bring the resonate frequence to 10-12Hz. I used SR11. The Feickert weight 27kg. It is long ago. I think you have to calculate so for SR11: ( 27:0.0011):4=6136 square millimeters surface for 1 peace if you use 4 pieces at all. So the radical is 78mm. 4 pieces with 78x78mm

Not really...

@@Orangeaudio1 I the US, most retailers have them lists at around $3,500 (give or take a few hundred bucks).

@@lokerola Send me an email. www.orangeaudio.de

Some old vinyl's benefit from the VDH's top end too🙂 But yes, sometimes it is too much.

@@Orangeaudio1 I appreciate your comment, but I was actually describing something different than tonal balance. I was implying that the use of squeaky-clean audiophile approved LPs are "soft-balls", as LPs anybody can play. Real vintage LPs that were actually played by real people many moons ago are real tests. Playing the typical Dire Straits, "female vocals", and audiophile quality blues LPs do not tell anybody if a cartridge really has "the stuff".

@@robertpincus6528 Here i to less space to talk this topic what it is worth. I agree that today vinyl´s often have to much high´s and low end. For me the music happens in the mid´s and there often win older productions. I have a little recording studio and here a lot of mastertapes. The sound of tapes from the 50/60/70`s years is outstanding and vinyl has absolute no chance. Back to the VDH Frog, i have here a recording from Kari Bremnes. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sJmjisppnpm7j3k.html This vinyl has so much top end, that it is unhearable with it. I recorded it with a Jan Allaerts and it sounds very good, because the great warmth of this cartridge. Today i have a Lyra Skala beside the Frog. I made a recording these days from Kenny Burrell. You can find it here. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gdqkZ9WDy6m3fKs.html

Midnight Blue is always a winner. You almost have to wonder if 'ol Rudy didn't wasn't trying to make ear candy that day! Re. modern recordings, top end is only one issue. Digital reverb is a joke, and it's a band aide for 2nd rate recording engineers, and audiophiles with lousy systems. The fact that 90% of high end demos use digitally reverbed recordings is very sad. People who demo phono cartridges on recordings doused in digital reverb are hopeless. Thanks for choosing better LPs. When you can play a 1951 Heifetz 10" as quit and clean as a 180 gram jazz record then you know you've arrived

@@Orangeaudio1 あんた録音スタジオを経営しとるん？そしたら、レコードはマスターテープには遥かに及ばんのやないか。わしも最近テープを始めたが、テープを最初に聴いたときは腰を抜かした。

Can you write in English?