Sold my FM3 and got a TMP and no regrets!! Much better user interface face on the TMP. The FM3 may have the better sounding stock presets but a simple tweak to taste on the TMP and I get better tones than I did on my FM3! I always enjoyed my FM3 but the menu diving and formatting took time away from my playing. A lot of the features were great too but were almost overwhelming how many there were. The TMP is just the perfect amount of settings I feel to get the job done and ultimately enjoy playing! I got mine mostly for quiet play once the babies and wife are asleep! Love it! This is a great review of the two units! Much appreciated Leo!! It helped me greatly when making the switch!

Leo makes the most comprehensive practical demos.

My money (if i had any to get gear like this 😆) would go to the Fractal for sure! Its definitely a more mature platform, and with the additional effects and chain flexibility makes it way more appealing. Im sure fender will come out with updates to get it up to par there, but even then, i still trust the Fractals maturity and proven performance. Thanks for the great video as always Leo!

Love Leo's dedication. Having a special demo song for every device comprising with each having awesome originality❤

I'll take the ease of use and UI of the TMP with the hope that Fender will have amazing updates coming.

I had an FM9. I sold it because I hated the work flow. It sounded great, but an awful UI. I have QC and Helix and Kemper. I’m really liking the TMP. It sounds great and is dead simple to use. I find my sounds so much faster. It really has everything I end up using on the others so more stuff isn’t necessarily a good thing.

A funny point that actually can be serious especially for people playing live. My cat ate last week the power supply of my GT 1000 and it takes time to purchase a new one. So a very big plus to the Fender as you can find a "PC" cable much easier at any time and place. And Leo. I wish I will see more guitar lessons coming from you. Keep on educating us and entertaining us as you do. As always, well done to the video!

I purchased the TMP and use it mostly at home. It's extremely simple to program the presets, you don't even need the manual, I play with it by sending music via Bluetooth and just concentrate on playing. The sounds are quite nice, especially the Fenders of course. We consider that the other Fractal and Neural type machines have been on the market for years now, so the TMP will certainly have future improvements (we hope!).

I always enjoy the thoroughness of you demos and insightful opinions. An easy UI has a lot to do with how useful any piece of gear is going to be. The TMP large touch screen is nice but maybe not as useful as one might imagine. Rotary encoder Stomp buttons will probably become standard on new Modelers, as they are a good feature. Surprisingly, I still like my HX Stomp interface, HX Edit, and Helix Native, all for $550 US from a few years ago! Thanks

I'd love a Fractal with the Tone Master GUI

I totally agree. I expect much more from Fender. Fractal is ahead of any other company in the industry. They simulate components. It's other level.

I was wondering if Fender Tone Master Pro is better than my new FM9. And now, this confirmed, my decision that I bought my FM9 last month is very worthy and it's still better than the new Tone Master Pro. Now I know...I'll rest and then go back to enjoy my toy. Lol.

As usual, an excellent video! Thank you very much for your great work, Leo!

I think its clear now that Fractal has the best and more professional sounds and the TMP has the perfect UI. If Fractal develops their UI into something like the TMP it will be unbeatable.

Thanks for another great video. Fractal's JCM 800 obliterates Fender's. I guess that for modelers, Fractal is the way to go if you have the money. The only problem I see with the FM3 is that, despite its great sound quality, it seems limited in process power, at least from some demonstrations I've seen. A normal rig will sound fantastic, but if you want to get "creative", the DSP limit will certainly hit you.

surprised how far off the TMP was on the Marshall amp JCM 800 & your saying also with the Plexi - I have not pulled the trigger on a modeler as of yet hopefully Fractal will have touch screens on the next versions - If Fender gets on the ball adds more amps & effects and the capture feature that would be game changing - Great demo Leo

GREAT WORK ! We would also love occasional hints at your original music - live or recorded. You are amazing guitarist and person !

Great demo song. Agree with most, if not all of your opinions. Tone is a win for Fractal. Ease of use goes to the Fender. Features and tones matter most to me. God bless and rock on 🎸😎👍

Beautiful solos, Leo! Congrats!

Great review as always! The one that has seamless preset changes will be the one for me. Programmable FX units were designed for that in the first place, to change multiple fx at once. If there’s a silent gap when you change a preset or it’s slow, no matter how expensive or good it sounds, to me it’s a toy for home use or recording. The scenes and on/off fx thing is a bonus. My opinion.

Again, an excellent video & the one i've been waiting for! Thank you so much, Leo!

Great playing and super informative. Thanks again Leo!

Unlike some comments, I believe the Fractal complexity and UI is a positive and is it gives more freedom to effectively create your own amp. Similarly the fx are more like old lexicon/eventide rack units again a major positive for me. I do agree though that pricing in Europe and UK for Fractal is unacceptable.

Thanks for this comparison! While I am nerdy, when it comes to making music, I don’t really want to dive into Fractal-level depths. I think the more limited options of the Tone Master Pro are part of what makes it attractive to me. In fact, I’m really going to be on the look out for even more limited (and more affordable) products in the Tone Master line. I do think the internal routing options of the TMP are unfortunate, though. Flexibility there wouldn’t really make it significantly more complex.

Another great video. Thanks for your efforts Leo, really your comparisons are the best.

Hi Leo thank you for the Video buttttt we can`t compare gears especially different brands because Fractal, kemper.Quad Cortez,Line 6 and Master pro are way different units they all sound great and to be honest. maybe a particular one is not your thing but to some else is what they need i own Kemper, Fractal and the Fender pro master and to me they all are amazing. If it sounds good to your ears then thats the unit you need thank you

Fantastic review Thank you ! I really enjoyed your guitar playing on this demo. Your phrasing is phenomenal 👍👍👍

Great video my friend!! I love your accent! 😂 Having owned FA units before i agree they offer a lot more specially when used in studio etc , however for easier usability in a live environment I've decided to go with the FTPM. Rock on

Tone Master for old man like me 😊

amazing job as usual, and amazing playing as usual

Hi Leo, I have the regular FM3 which is a beast, and yes you can use Highres IRs and you noticed the diferrence, they sound much more organic

Another great video and resource! Thank you!

Brilliant review Leo.

The interface of TMP is 10 out of 10. But I kind of prefer fractal for now. I wish I had one. I Let's see future updates

Interesting. At the end of the day which ever inspires you to play and create will win me. I owned a AX8 sounded great but I would fail into option paralysis 😅. The Fender looks to be more tweak as you play friendly, definitely will be trying one.

Hi Leo It's time to record an album...so great music !

I'm sold on the Fender tone master. Gonna be getting one soon and can't wait. The other is good too.

Bel confronto grazie !! e buon compleanno !!!

The TMP is the iModeler. If you do not like to deep dive and have access to all the parameters of the Fractal systems then it is understandable that you would gravitate towards the easier option.. however... Just for example.. I can take a Hipower amp in the fractal, swap out the tone stack with a Marshall JTM45, adjust the Bias, the voltage, the sag and get an amp that is amazingly close to a real JTM45 in the room with all the touch and feel of a real amp. There really is no competition to Fractal in the actual physical modelling category.. That does not mean it is for everyone. Some people want to capture real amps... I hear the QC is amazing for that, some people want to turn it on and treat it like a real rig.. place your effects, choose an amp and play... but after learning enough about the Fractal units to use the UI quickly I would not want anything else. Get what inspires you and enjoy it today.

Update to the comparison chart. Fractal now has gapless scene and preset switching on the FM3, FM9 and AxeFX III on the latest firmware versions.

Hello Leo thanks for your amazing videos, from your feeling do you think the TMP sound and feel as good as fractal ? i mean the aliasing for exemple , the reverb algorythm, OK fractal have more amp and tweaking but Tmp have blutooth for just plug and play with a backing track in 2min,to play guitar fast and not tweak everyday more important ? thank you

Touch screens seem gimmicky to me. The depth and breadth of features within the Fractal ecosystem are unmatched. It's a very mature software, paired with a top notch software editor. The chassis and components are also rugged and roadworthy (IEC power anyone?). But with great power come a (somewhat) steep learning curve. People these days often can't be bothered to read a manual or commit any effort to learning a new piece of gear. That's ok too, it's never going to be a one size fits all solution. I would say that we live in a golden age of guitar gear, and that most products can be made to sound great. That said, I don't think you can necessarily deem something 'pro' based on sound alone. I can use a simple plugin in Reaper and sound great, and no one would know its not a 'real' amp... or tube... or hand wired... etc etc. The 'pro' qualities in a unit lie in its build quality, ruggedness, and feature set, not necessarily how easy it is to use. Pros will take the time to learn it, or have a tech that learns it. Besides, just because a unit like Fractal has several pages of amp parameters doesn't mean people need to dick with them. Just stick to the factory presets (which are awesome) until you learn.

I will probably always stay with fractal. Besides the freedom and tweakbility, it is the fully customizeble Footswitches that I dont want to give away ever again. No unit comes even close.

Mr Leo prima di tutto un complimento sincero per il suo lavoro qui. Un auspicio poi per il futuro: spero di vedere sempre più rack con tutta la computazione dentro e pedaliere con solo switch. E di vederli affordable. Dopo tutto che beneficio c'è nei componenti elettronici dei modelers se non sono efficenti in termini di assorbimento energetico e amici delle tasche di tutti? Brindo a Leo e al futuro user friendly e more rack based 👍🤟

Note that while Fractal does model the taper of most amp controls, they do not model the taper of the master volume and instead offer an idealized master volume taper. As such, simply setting the volume on an amp in the exact same spot as the model will yield different results.

I found the comparison of the dynamic range to me most revealing here. Listen to the way that notes decay on the two modelers compared to the amp. On the Fender TMP I hear a white noise like static sound come in as the notes decay. I don't hear that on the amp or on the FM3 model. It sounds like the noise gate on the Tone Master Pro is engaging too early and choking out the note decay.

Thanks a lot for your videos ! Is Fender Tone Master Pro have autofiliter/auto-wah effect available ?

Your demo songs are awesome can you please make an tutorial on this song 🙏

For a professional, Fractal Products are undoubtedly preferable precisely because of the enormous possibility they offer to customize and create unique and original sounds. It is their added value compared to all the competition. Obviously they are not products for amateurs.

There's a sandpaper grit to both the TM and the FM3 on the Deluxe Reverb that the amp doesn't seem to have. Anyway to dial out that harshness?

UltraRes support has been added to FM3 in firmware 3.03

Great review. Can you review NAM vs FM3?

Thank you for sharing~

Hey Leo! Great video as always. I have, probably like many who watched this video, watched dozens of videos on the TMP over the last month. Regardless of what the video presenter says about them, all of them have given me the same impression: the Fender and EVH models are outstanding, and the models named after non-Fender owned products are not. Mind you, I do not actually care if something is "authentic" - I don't have a Marshall Plexi or a Mesa Dual Rectifier sitting here, so what does it matter to me if it sounds exactly like a Marshall Plexi or a Mesa Dual Rectifier? I do care if I like the tone, though. I own a Fractal Axe FX, and I love the Marshall and Mesa tones it produces. When I hear KZfaqrs demo Fender tones from the TMP they sound great, and when they demo other things they sound less great. It's as simple as that. I think that Fender really just views the TMP as a modeler for people to buy into the Fender brand, and those other models are just numbers on a spreadsheet so that it doesn't look like they're selling an underpowered product. With a Deluxe Reverb, a Bassman, and an EVH you could already cover almost every tone you would ever realistically need in a cover band. Have you tried the Tone Master FR-10 or FR-12 powered cabinet, though? As mentioned, I have an Axe FX, and also a Boss GT-1000 CORE for something easily portable. I bought a Tone Master FR-12 to use as a powered cabinet, and it is easily the best modeling tone upgrade I've purchased in years. I had been using a PA speaker, or plugging directly into my audio interface, and the FR-12 was like buying an entirely new set of amplifiers. Better bass response, better treble response, just better clarity across the entire frequency spectrum. My only complaint about the FR-12 is that it is shockingly, brutally loud. The manual claims that it has a maximum sound pressure of 130 db. 130 db! Who needs that kind of volume level?

Fractal sounds fantastic, but their user interface is way too complicated for me to use on an everyday basis, and the screen on the device is too small for me. However, I wouldn’t buy the Fender yet. They need a lot more updates. As of right now, I would go with QC if I needed an all in one pedal unit.

I prefer the sound of the TMP. More real , more organic

and the winner is FM3

Solid!

Fractal sounds closer to the real amp but then again the boss GT 1000 sounds as good for 1/3 of the price and never gets any love I would get a Headrush it would be better value than the Fender with its similar touch screen

A used FM can be found for $900 so nearly half that of the FTMP. Only the Ping Pong sounded better on the Fender. For the money, FM3. Same prices, easily get a FM9- now $100 discounted. Like the UI on the Fender but that is about it. Might grab one once the price dips below $500 used at GC. It won't be long.

The Tonemaster deluxe tone was very good, as was the FM3. I was suprised how poor the Marshall 800 was from Fender!. Seems they haven't learnt much in the 10 years from the mustang floor in respect of tone 😐

I like the sounds of the Fractal, way better than the Tone Master Pro. But I would say it is easier to learn to set up presets on the Fender. On the factual there is a huge learning curve. I think with the Fender you spend more time playing and less time tweaking. I would choose the Fractal. Thank you.

Great vídeo. Very indepth. Do the FM3 Turbo and FM9 Turbo have the same processors?

From an I/O and live use perspective, a better comparison would be FM9 / TMP as they are similar price.

I came here trying to compare modelers. I left wanting a Kiesel guitar. Dammit!

the question is how many hours do you have to waste learning it? and then throwing it all away because the new version arrived or constantly waiting for the next update. tubes can't be captured! they are wild and weird and we like it.

Prefer the FM3 more not because its cheaper but sound comparison/modelling the FM3 does it much better.

I've heard a cat at 26:30, is it possible? Meow! :D

I hope the fender TMP release the peavey 6505+ amp.

Fender has the better all in all unit as such, but has to improve the amp algorithms. Easy, right😂? I'm sure they will in the next fw updates if you just look how incredibly good the Helix developed over the years, for example. Fractal excuses the complexity in handling and in the UI with it being a pro piece of gear. This is such a weak excuse that only real fanboys swallow. The oppositite is the case, imo. Look at apple products, for example, even if you cannot compare Computers to musical grar - but then again you can, if you look at how guitar sound is dialedin in the digital world. Pro AND easy to use. Or just look at TM, Helix all the other units ease of use. Other than that: the TM tone leaves room for improvement, in comparison, I would say.

does the fm3 or fm9 have a battery inside it like the tonemaster , its one similar to the one that goes in a garmin , god knows how your supposed to know when its dead or leaking etc.

I found the FM3 to have more crunchy/distorted highs than the real fender amp and TMP model.

Fractal sink or swim with their units. For Fender their unit is just one of hundreds of products. Fender have a bad reputation of ignoring products that have problems or poor sales. They not only have dropped products quickly but offer poor support when they hadn't but zero support if the drop a product. Buyers could end up with a product that falls behind or prematurely is replaced and so is dropped. In short a product with very, very poor resale value. The thing with all modellers is that they are just a computer that relies more on great software than anything else. Soon like the movie industry one will buy a military grade computer and a simple footswitch controller and not a specialized music computer like we have now. An industry standard will be agreed on and there will be endless choice of sounds as startup costs for software only companies negligible. It has to happen it is embarrassingly overdue. The modern recording industry uses consumer computers. The only argument about using standard computers is robustness. It is a nonstater with military grade units which are a hundred time more reliable than any gear made for Rock bands. Add to that they are not overly pricey nor do they become redutant quickly. The computing power required for modeling is not excessive.

FRACTAL smokes the tmp....its funny on the gear page how everyone is asking for all these amps that are in the fractal..lol...good luck as fender isnt know for updates and they drop tech withing a year or 2.

Tone Master PRO : 1700 $ USA 1700 € EU - FRACTAL FM9 TURBO : 1700 $ USA 2400 € EU. ? Fractal and Fender are two American companies, which sell their products in the USA at the same price. It means that an FM9 is worth as much as a Tone Master PRO. Why in Europe should we accept a 50% price increase for FRACTAL? Surcharge that Fender doesn't apply?

FM3 ==> Beter tones. Bad onboard UI. Decent PC app. TMP ==> Best onboard UI. Awful Marshall/Brit tones. Currently, there is not enough there for me to migrate from the FM3 to the TMP.

Fm9 smokes everything and is only getting better

Please us your preference 👏🏻

30:45 lol

I like to plug and play. Tweaking and searching sounds issnt for me. I just want to put a sound and start playing. With my helix i was also way to bussy tweaking. Now i use a tube amp with some pedals. Turn it on and just play. I would like purchece the Tone master. But for me , a bedroom player its a overkill i geuss. For now i stay with my tube and pedals.

Fractal fm3 hands down!!!!!

Nothing better than the real thing.

HEADPHONE Out....HEADPHONE Out....HEADPHONE Out. Is anyone going to mention this? I will....I have the FM3 and the Tone Master Pro. I've got to max settings (or near max) on the TMP to hear it well with my headphones . Sounds OK with Beyerdynamic DT900 pro and not loud enough with Sennheiser HD650. FM3 sounds terrific with both....50% setting with Beyerdynamic and 75% with Sennheiser HD650. The TMP will go back. The FM3 stays and its much better appreciated!

I think Tone Master Pro has the same problem as other mid-range products. They have lower resolution on higher frequencies.

Real is still a lot more pleasing to listen to… maybe we need a breakthrough tech in modeling and not only the same algorithms from 10 years ago with little tweak there and there… Amp capture with neural network give a better result but still lacks of the push.

FRACTAL is fuller and more definition

Fractal wins. Now, and, I suspect, into the future.

27 amps and 26 cabs for a 1700 dollar unit WOW they are slacking we will see if they update it with more options

let's wait HELIX 2

QC>FM3>FTM

You mentioned user manual... Fractal doesn't provide a hard copy of one. They want you to down load it. 🤬