She’s not an “accompanist.” COLLABORATE! | Laurence Lesser #brahms #shorts

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Жыл бұрын

In this lesson, we go into depth on how to interact with the piano while playing the E minor sonata of Brahms. Prof. Lesser addresses many of the crucial issues posed in the repertoire of cello and piano. Here, he discusses how to practice this work collaboratively to find the correct balance of the work.
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@jaewoopark3144 Жыл бұрын

Guys… it's about following, not about mechanically matching like a robot. He is definitely reacting to her lead.

@shoganflamemasta3975 Жыл бұрын

He is, but he is reacting too late

@jaewoopark3144 Жыл бұрын

@@shoganflamemasta3975Such Imperfection is why we play and listen to the same score again and again.

@shoganflamemasta3975 Жыл бұрын

@@jaewoopark3144 I agree, the problem is that he is presenting this educatively as an example specifically of rythmic lead-follow, where he fails to follow very noticeably. I'm sure he is a great musician with a ton of experience, and I'm not disputing that. But it's not like they're playing live, he could have easily done other takes and used a better one.

@jaewoopark3144 Жыл бұрын

@@shoganflamemasta3975 I’m afraid I have to disagree with your view that he fails to follow the lead. The lead-follow relationship is significantly different from a dominate-obey, which I think is what you’re looking for. If he were merely to comply with the lead, it would reduce him to an accompanist. I believe the demonstration is good enough to show what he wanted to say. There’s no need to re-film it.

@voornaam3191 Жыл бұрын

When you play in amateur big bands with people NOT reacting to one another, you start longing for such a great player. This is music lesson number one, after learning how to play the instrument: do listen and know who you should follow. Even if you don't like piano or cello or this music style, this is a great example. Playing a jazz classic, they can show us the same, be sure of that.

@itsjudystube7439 Жыл бұрын

This is like going for a walk together with a good friend. You are not marching at the exact timing. In a walk you sometimes match your pace. Sometimes one is ahead or behind. It’s the beauty of accompanying each other v

@kougerat5388 8 ай бұрын

I love your comment, thank you

@MrDoglover239 Жыл бұрын

Ah so this is how that slight delay I sometimes hear in pieces doesn't sound like they are just messing up. It has a beautiful quality, such as one chasing after the other in their search to be one. ❤

@meekah21 Жыл бұрын

Congrats, you just learned what phrasing and musicality are

@marceloalbuja Жыл бұрын

⁠⁠@@meekah21this person isn’t even talking about phrasing or musicality. Just explained the view to the delay between two voices, and appreciates it; now enjoying music differently. Let live and let a person enjoy this point of view ;)

@radioactive.rabbit Жыл бұрын

Finally someone understands the importance of a cello in a group. Somebody said once, the cello in a group is like the butter on bread. It's the sexy, final touch.

@Monsterox Жыл бұрын

you couldn't have said it better

@digitaldizzy 11 ай бұрын

my guy this is a cello sonata

@digitaldizzy 11 ай бұрын

like it’s not the final touch it’s the main fucking course

@TheUnderscore_ 11 ай бұрын

@@digitaldizzyExactly, not sure why this commenter's saying this here lmfao

@Jackmille20 9 ай бұрын

Who the fuck said that 😀

@sergeantslowpoke1550 Жыл бұрын

Everyone who says he is not following has never done any proper ensemble playing. His phrasing is reacting to hers on the repeat.

@SRTY1000 Жыл бұрын

That's why it's the sonata for cello and piano.

@utvpoop Жыл бұрын

More to say, up to Beethoven's times it would be a sonata for piano and cello

@valtrberg901 Жыл бұрын

@@utvpoop if you actually did know something about this or was at least willing to search up wikipedia you would know that you are wrong

@utvpoop Жыл бұрын

@@valtrberg901 Check IMSLP for the first editions. The first 2 cello sonatas, op. 5, were published in 1797 as "Deux grandes sonates pour le Clavecin ou Piano - Forte avec un Violoncelle obligé". Furthermore, the last 2 cello sonatas, op. 102 were published in 1816 as "Deux sonates pour le Pianoforté et Violoncell". Mendellsohn's Sonata no. 2 from 1843 is "Sonate für Pianoforte und Violoncello". I guess it was in the 1870's when they started to change the roles.

@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 Жыл бұрын

Bravo! So many do not seem to grasp that concept!

@callmeqt1269 11 ай бұрын

@@valtrberg901dang you got owned they had the receipts, they had the cctv footage, they had the eyewitnesses that’s rough

@thatguyagain123 Жыл бұрын

He's a great listener

@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 Жыл бұрын

So is she, or she would not be playing with him.

@blaiddfumbler 6 ай бұрын

@@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 both of them are, otherwise they wouldn't be playing with each other.

@mvygantas 6 ай бұрын

Not of his own intonation though

@blipblip88 Жыл бұрын

New found appreciation for a critical Brahms performance.

@TJ042 9 ай бұрын

Most often, sonatas are titled “sonata for [x] and [y],” not “[x] sonata ([y] accompanying).”

@coreywheatcroft1374 Жыл бұрын

Now this is beautiful talent, thank you sir

@Da_Publick Ай бұрын

"She can do _anything_ she wants to do, and I've got to follow her..." This is an important lesson for people who think Classical is just about musicians playing by rote.

@nancylee8061 9 күн бұрын

Larry Lesser is such a great teacher

@gabrielabosenberg3987 11 ай бұрын

What a great maestro you are!!!! Great teacher 😊

@pratyushbzr 10 ай бұрын

Can anyone point me to the name of this piece please? It sounds beautiful

@gailukatch402 8 ай бұрын

Brahms sonata no.1 for cello and piano. This is my favorite part of the whole sonata but it's all so beautiful...

@pratyushbzr 8 ай бұрын

@@gailukatch402 thank you so much!

@kosmickatt9697 7 ай бұрын

So subtle but so powerful

@billiederham8398 11 ай бұрын

Beautiful playing by both.

@eldertmohr1366 11 ай бұрын

Is it just me or is his intonation pretty wobbly for a prestige conservatory teacher? (Not a cello player)

@McGillus 11 ай бұрын

Yeah he misses quite a few notes.

@paulbender3716 11 ай бұрын

Yep pretty raw

@Kwert 9 ай бұрын

He’s 84 years old. Give him a break.

@rubenbuehler 8 ай бұрын

It's like that when U get older

@Bu-bo-Bu-bo Ай бұрын

I think that, for just this short, here, being in tune, it's not the main point. It's just a rehearsal, he doesn't need to concentrate on being in tune. My current cello teacher does the same sometimes. Moreover, when you are a teacher you don't need to be the best concertist. you CAN be both, but it's not at all necessary. My classical guitar teacher played worse than me when I finished my music studies, yet he was the best teacher i ever had. It's not an age problem, even if if you have hearing or muscular impairment it may be an issue of course.

@DrDrift-rl6cc 7 ай бұрын

I love this man! He's always great!

@killamok3521 Жыл бұрын

These videos with music validates your teaching better than explanation alone. You should include playing examples at a higher rate.

@samp4184 Жыл бұрын

This is beautiful

@Frostipup2 11 ай бұрын

I need a full song of this.. This is so relaxing.

@skittybee 10 ай бұрын

the piece name is Sonata for Cello and Piano No. 1 in E Minor, Op. 38: II. Allegretto quasi menuetto

@user-bu6hp2lj9j 11 ай бұрын

Very nice, thank you.

@christophladurner1076 3 ай бұрын

Wunderbar

@canterlevi 11 ай бұрын

When I was learning to accompany soloists, I was taught that two instruments are equal, i.e., they work together as equal partners. However, when accompanying a voice, you must let the singer take the lead because they are dealing with breathing issues that obviously, you, as the accompaniest, don’t have to worry about. ☺️

@billybro1403 11 ай бұрын

I just love music and specially string instruments. Im no expert and not very knowledgeable in instruments, but now I understand why nature would cease when Orpheus played❤

@aliont 11 ай бұрын

Would love to hear the difference it makes with & without the left hand vibrato/shaking

@xBUMSKIx 10 ай бұрын

That's amazing!

@alainaramsey2467 6 ай бұрын

Accompanists ❤. They never seem to get enough credit. As if they’re invisible to a singer. The singer couldn’t do their job without a beautiful piano player.

@jairochaves8916 Жыл бұрын

Great Brahms!!!!!

@jenna2431 Жыл бұрын

Some people here have no ear for nuance.

@bewoproductions9097 Жыл бұрын

She is not an accompanist for this piece. But, there are times when she is the accompanist because that is a gig that pays.

@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 Жыл бұрын

Correct.

@angel-tt7yo 11 ай бұрын

what

@bewoproductions9097 11 ай бұрын

@@angel-tt7yo if you don’t know, then you don’t know. Don’t worry, if you don’t know, it doesn’t matter to you anyway.

@angel-tt7yo 11 ай бұрын

@@bewoproductions9097 ok lol

@Muzikman127 10 ай бұрын

@@bewoproductions9097dick

@gspaulsson Жыл бұрын

Anyone notice that her name is never mentioned?

@herobrine1847 11 ай бұрын

Yeah 😢 like the whole premise of the video is for everyone to be present in the music-making

@jgfakjshfdgkajshd Жыл бұрын

Nice point

@bkilpattn1 11 ай бұрын

Great accompanying . Has anyone else mentioned the horrible tuning?

@jigssscupid8836 8 ай бұрын

Look at that sheet music 😮😮😮

@mistyminnie5922 7 ай бұрын

My best friend in primary played the cello. Her dad the double bass and her mother the cello. I always thought it was cute, like a cartoon family.

@jarrahtree5130 Жыл бұрын

Intonation

@Kwert 9 ай бұрын

Larry Lesser is one of the all time greats, and is 84 years old at the time of this recording. I’m praying I can still play this well when I’m 84.

@linhlucy2098 Жыл бұрын

dis is definitely insane, can i get the song name pls

@74bassman Жыл бұрын

Sonata for Cella and Piano No. 1 in E Minor, Op. 38: II. Allegretto quasi menuetto

@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 Жыл бұрын

Brahms Sonata for Cello and Piano

@willmorris8198 8 ай бұрын

Another way of thinking about it is that as much as she is accompanying him on piano, he is accompanying her on cello. It doesnt necessarily imply dominance or heirarchy in the importance of the instruments.

@StevenPJames-fl1un 4 ай бұрын

They would have needed more rehearsal time. The accompanist was well within her right to bend the phrasing how she wanted for the repeat, but given that they have the melody in unison it takes a good deal of time playing together to really understand the other's tendencies, which they don't seem to have here. The ensemble faults don't lie entirely with one person--they both have responsibility!

@leonardodelyrarodrigues3752 Жыл бұрын

Essa desprendimento dos instrumentos entre sí que é o verdadeiro rubato.

@blue_pullover Жыл бұрын

nothing wrong with being an accompanist. it takes skill to do well

@Hollowed_Wanderer Жыл бұрын

They're just pointing out the difference.

@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 Жыл бұрын

As he just said, she is not an Accompanist....she is a partner. It is a cello and piano composition, not cello with piano. Many pieces have one dominant instrument. This is for two equal instruments.

@fatitankeris6327 Жыл бұрын

The roles can change throughout

@ok-ro7kx Жыл бұрын

@@fatitankeris6327 yes indeed but that's irrelevant to this conversation as this is a matter of what the role is.

@lifeonhigh851 9 ай бұрын

@@ok-ro7kxIn this case it isnt an accompanist but rather a duet partner. To call them an accompanist is to belittle them and call their part "unimportant".

@Pho7on Жыл бұрын

Who else knew that key change would happen in the repeat of that passage? It's the most unpredictable thing to do, therefore the most predictable.

@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 Жыл бұрын

That is the brilliance of Brahms

@manubishe Жыл бұрын

What is it that she does as the leader?

@matthewgellar1442 Жыл бұрын

Phrasing

@manubishe Жыл бұрын

@@matthewgellar1442 thnx

@Cellojoa 8 ай бұрын

너무 좋아요.~~

@frankgillet2752 Жыл бұрын

What is the name of the piece?

@bear9295 Жыл бұрын

Second movement of Brahms e minor cello sonata

@kpunkt.klaviermusik Жыл бұрын

She does follow him... but he doesn't follow her at the repeat ^^

@lanewang8387 Жыл бұрын

i feel like perhaps partially its bc his sound is more prominent in the recording. And yes... he is still quite dominant in the repeat session

@annie_kwok Жыл бұрын

Exactly. She’s clearly messing around with the rhythm and he’s… not really following

@matthewgellar1442 Жыл бұрын

the cello is still the solo voice. Rather than having to differentiate the repeat from the original (on his own), the pianist plays their interpretation in the repeat. He does follow her, maybe not perfectly. Sorry to say, but you missed the point entirely.

@annie_kwok Жыл бұрын

@@matthewgellar1442 yes, but he’s not… playing her rhythm? And I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure the piece was written for both piano and cello to feature, at least at some point.

@matthewgellar1442 Жыл бұрын

@@annie_kwokhe is though! (????) He's reacting to her tempo. I'm really not sure what to say to you.

@jcoolverine3483 11 ай бұрын

nice shirt, i like the colors

@daslynnter9841 7 ай бұрын

my first years soloing in highschool, i did this no problem. then the accompanist quit my last year and was replaced by a friend of the band director. she could barely follow me and when it was her turn, got lost and completely stopped playing. we restarted and the only way i could get through it was to ignore her. worst performance of my life.

@pauldeck4500 Жыл бұрын

It looks easy but it takes bandwidth

@screamingpiano 5 ай бұрын

The piano part in this section is soo awkward to play, props to this pianist 😅🎉

@jessicasue1000 10 ай бұрын

Yes this is it

@b3127R Жыл бұрын

f sharp minor 😍

@frzkd5053 Жыл бұрын

you are nerd

@patriciarossman8653 10 ай бұрын

That is why it is called chamber music. Supposedly the highest form. I only know I have a heck of a lot of fun.

@simon8katz Жыл бұрын

He's definitely leading both times

@malachycarson5846 11 ай бұрын

He just didn't follow her lead at all.

@lorecy4950 6 ай бұрын

song name?

@GingerIndiana 8 ай бұрын

But this is an exercise he is asking for and it is very interesting. (At Brahms time, piano and cello (or violin) were equal in the sonatas).

@bradyredding1964 Жыл бұрын

Bro did not let her lead

@marisolecheverri3195 10 ай бұрын

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@Ninjanugets123 Жыл бұрын

what piece is this?

@hiddendagger7 Жыл бұрын

Brahms e minor cello sonata second movement

@hoangquocgiap3485 7 ай бұрын

Too high , I just cannot understand an few who is leading... but the sound is simply wonderful.

@jlvjazz 6 ай бұрын

He is still ahead of her at times during the second time. That second half is a big reason why cellist don't need to glom it on all the time. Let the piano shine on the melody sometimes. He plays gorgeously. Just sayin'.

@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 Жыл бұрын

Beautifully done...very sensitive. Completely in sync.

@MisticWays 7 ай бұрын

But the thing, you see, they're not improvising at all. You can see her reading off the music sheet! They know what these pieces sound like pre-hand, therefore taking the surprise element of being spontaneous out the equation of true inspiration.

@Nastya_Rembo 11 ай бұрын

восхитительно

@mikepanchuk2456 11 ай бұрын

❤️❤️❤️🙂🙂😉

@lambchu6459 Жыл бұрын

Gives me Howls Moving Castle vibes.

@HoSza1 8 ай бұрын

Lead? Sounded like they were in sync all the time? :O

@DanielHartz Жыл бұрын

Timing was incredibly musical, intonation was off.

@fleurn0 Жыл бұрын

B-eautiful

@bluepool210 10 ай бұрын

what's the pianist's name?

@daddyleon 11 ай бұрын

Sounds like the leader plays louder and the follower plays less and is slightly slower?

@superneenjaa718 11 ай бұрын

It's like a phase shifted signal, lol

@Franz_Liszt_Korean Жыл бұрын

Great. What is the name of the music?

@jeff-yp2bk Жыл бұрын

Second movement of Brahms e minor cello sonata

@ComminusEminus 11 ай бұрын

What are they playing? Does somebody know?

@digitaldizzy 11 ай бұрын

Brahms Cello Sonata in E minor, second movement

@wuyipiano Жыл бұрын

Interesting

@Ojovemgrifo Жыл бұрын

Name of the piece

@grischyovaaaas Жыл бұрын

brahms cello sonata in e minor, 2nd movement

@stephenowesney5173 11 ай бұрын

What piece?

@skittybee 10 ай бұрын

Sonata for Cello and Piano No. 1 in E Minor, Op. 38: II. Allegretto quasi menuetto

@gnamp 11 ай бұрын

He plays so confidently- but those notes were really sloppy pitch-wise.

@cordulas2948 Жыл бұрын

Er spielt viel zu zögerlich, konzentriert sich nicht auf seine Melodie, sie darf ihn begleiten. Alles sollte in Worten und im Spiel auf gegenseitige Achtung und Liebe basieren.

@marzi8456 9 ай бұрын

that's some beautiful cello writing

@oldmate86 Жыл бұрын

Guy tried leading both times

@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 Жыл бұрын

No, he did not. Listen more carefully!

@mandyh86 10 ай бұрын

To all the idiots in the comments, it’s called interpretation! Music would be mechanical, lifeless and boring without it. It’s what brings to life and produces emotion from a piece of paper full of notes that mean nothing without a skilled interpreter.

@Nathan00at78Uuiu Жыл бұрын

This was more like, I'm going to play what i want and she will follow and then I will keep playing the same thing and she can do whatever I guess.

@digitaldizzy 11 ай бұрын

they played the same notes both times; they’re playing from written sheet music, not improvising. the first time round he led the phrasing and the second time she led the phrasing.

@scottpollock6549 7 ай бұрын

Why does her piano sound like all high notes

@benf262 10 ай бұрын

Accom"pianist"

@DannyMcCaffrey 4 ай бұрын

Pitchy?

@shoganflamemasta3975 Жыл бұрын

He is definitely not following her. You can feel the caution and hesitation from the pianist, she adapts perfectly to follow the cello. If you pay attention, when she is supposed to lead, he is literally ahead of her.

@adam702702 Жыл бұрын

Does "leading" mean running a milisecond head of the other and slightly louder? I'm not a musiciian so I assume there is a much better definition than that.