In the studio, Tony Banks, keyboard player for Genesis, speaks about how he and Genesis wrote and arranged Firth of Fifth
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@tommckeown69704 жыл бұрын
Tony is the soul of Genesis. He was the essence of what they were. A truly gifted man.
@SurferJoe111 жыл бұрын
Tony Banks is a tremendous and greatly under-appreciated genius.
@philseida52384 жыл бұрын
My favorite song ever. Firth of Fifth just touches my heart and soul like no other. From Tony’s Awesome Piano Intro, to Peters Flute Solo, To Phil’s incredible drumming during Tony’s Powerful Mellotron and Mike’s great Bass Lines during Steve’s Spectacular and Beyond Emotional Guitar Solo and Peter at the end singing “ The sands of time, were eroded by, the River of constant change “. Tony’s Best along with others like One For The Vine, Afterglow, Mad Man Moon, etc.
@irysbrassens12394 жыл бұрын
hello, exactly the same for me, smile, friendly
@jeffjones13592 жыл бұрын
Yes! One of the most beautiful pieces of “our times”!
@francescovalente1963 Жыл бұрын
The last two minutes of Entangled, also
@marck17264 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Tony being humble and acknowledge Steve guitar bringing it to somewhere where he would not have gone by himself.
@fernandodeleon7466Ай бұрын
But also it's a revelation to hear him say that his favourite part is the flute solo (and the guitar solo, of course) when everybody admires the legendary piano intro.
@groverbaker64043 жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful composition and Steve Hackett explodes with his phenomenal help with his guitar artistry..wow
@johnnynewton12773 жыл бұрын
Tony Banks, the master of the greatest band
@frepi6 жыл бұрын
This melody brings tears to my eyes, every time.
@grahambrooks50804 жыл бұрын
Just how many hours of pleasure has Tony given us all! An intelligent man and an English treasure, honoured to be alive at this time to hear such genius.
@N1095A15 жыл бұрын
Tony Banks is one of the great masters of our time.
@deepsussex15 жыл бұрын
Firth of Fifth is one of the best Progressive Rock tunes ever and Hacketts and Banks finest moment in Genesis
@Thrak9411 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they did, The fact they could write epic Prog songs and have great Pop songs in them as well shows the diversity of their songwriting
@genesis093210 жыл бұрын
There is no one like Tony. He is the best of the best of all time.
@charlie1720116 жыл бұрын
Keith Emerson
@jamiemorgan41464 жыл бұрын
genesis0932 ...There are many greats... Not ONE ! They should all be appreciated for their unique talents .
@irysbrassens12394 жыл бұрын
It's funny... many years ago my pseudonym was "genesis..." almost your,,, cause I really love them... like you... Friendly, C
@irysbrassens12394 жыл бұрын
C. (from France, Bretagne)
@VasilyMusic3 жыл бұрын
@@charlie172011 Emerson had a totally different songwriting style. I love him, but Tony's music is just closer to my heart and soul.
@gringochucha5 жыл бұрын
1:20 And that's why Genesis was such an amazing group, because of all the monster musicians with their different influences.
@lflarry113 жыл бұрын
The whole point that Tony was trying to make here is: the end result sometimes can be better with the whole band contributing to a song like Firth of Fith; as to just writing the song solo. The end result was a pretty amazing progressive classical fusion rock work. Really super!
@darksolarium15 жыл бұрын
With all respect to every band members, all of them are wonderful and very professional, but to be quite honest, Tony Banks was always a fundamental part of the Genesis classic sound. I love Genesis, oh yes :)
@bfdmudk2 жыл бұрын
In a hundred years from now, people will marvel at Tony Banks' astonishing gift for melody.
@nigeltooby76814 жыл бұрын
The best part of that song was Hackett"s guitar. Lifted the climax to another level.
@voice_of_reason56042 жыл бұрын
Different layers in the same cake
@jhillst14 жыл бұрын
I've always enjoyed Tony's interviews. He has such a plaintive, humble personality and such a dry sense of humor...you'd never realize that so many great musical ideas were running through his head.
@nectarinedreams7208 Жыл бұрын
Humble hahaha
@tomscott44384 жыл бұрын
I can hear this as just keyboard and flute, but can't imagine it without Hackett's guitar work. What a piece of music.
@irysbrassens12394 жыл бұрын
surrely !!!!!!! Friendly, (from France)
@skykeys8 жыл бұрын
Just a beautiful piece. I've loved Firth of Firth since the first time I heard it, when Selling England by the Pound first came out in the U.S. It's my all time favorite album as a whole collection of beautiful music.
@DejanTesic5 жыл бұрын
@Baz Bazdad "It sounded a bit too King Crimsony", lol... (Translation: it sounded AWESOME).
@irysbrassens12394 жыл бұрын
yyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss
@keithf_3 жыл бұрын
Mine too. And it contains my two favourites of all Genesis tracks. Cinema Show and Firth Of Fifth
@TheRaivan35412 жыл бұрын
Haha, "it sounded too King Crimsony" Obviously, that's a GOOD thing!
@plasticweapon4 жыл бұрын
not if you don't want to sound like another band...
@Aethellis13 жыл бұрын
I love playing this song in my band. Never get tired of it and it always brings a shiver to our collective spines!
@5jerry113 жыл бұрын
I have watched performances of this song on youtube (as I'm sure many people reading this have as well), from the Peter Gabriel era and the Collins-led era, and it doesn't matter. Hearing Genesis playing "Firth Of Fifth" live is an incredible listening experience.
@smigbabb15 жыл бұрын
tony is one of the most talented and underated writers of our time!!!!
@Terragen15 жыл бұрын
Yea! So glad I found this, Firth of Fifth is responsible for me getting back into Piano and REALLY applying myself- I can play it now and Cinema Show, and im learning more. Thanks Mr. Banks!!
@158shm Жыл бұрын
How talent exposé’s itself, and how people are brought together to make beautiful music , 🎼
@user-nd5jc8xv8v8 жыл бұрын
tony it was a phenomenal piece
@davijohnson13973 жыл бұрын
"It was too King Crimson a thing." Like that's a bad thing?! That's why this era of Genesis is awesome. Because they actually wrote and performed songs that could be positively compared to the likes of King Crimson!
@nectarinedreams7208 Жыл бұрын
What he means is they didn't want it to be derivative of King Crimson. They wanted to have their own sound.
@jeffreysteck47102 жыл бұрын
Bravo Tony Banks and the rest of the Genesis band. Show us how teamwork can't work to a wonderful piece of music. One of my favorite Genesis songs while all the musicianship is top quality I have an affinity for Steve Hackett ' s tastefully done guitar solo. Much thanks to those who served in Genesis for our pleasure.
@shonieo15 жыл бұрын
I have worshiped Tony Banks since 1978. He is a god!
@pucaramanga9984 жыл бұрын
This is incredible greets from Argentina
@user-nd5jc8xv8v8 жыл бұрын
one of the best tracks iv ever heard -----and i mean ever by any band. Ok genesis are my fav band but i mean it
@kathypillow32738 жыл бұрын
+Billy .S This one can certainly bring tears to my eyes.......so glad I got to see them back in the day.......age definitely has its benefits!
@dntlss Жыл бұрын
My main man, i could hear him talk all day,guy is so damn humble and uncomplicated,you're the best Tony.
@timpricedrums4 жыл бұрын
Definitely up there with the greatest piano compositions of all time.
@voice_of_reason56042 жыл бұрын
Certainly in the prog genre
@chrisnolan56072 жыл бұрын
I hope Steve Hackett gets to hear this. There always seemed to be tension between Tony and Steve.
@johngreen3587 Жыл бұрын
Great for the rock genre but let’s not get carried away
@dickzirkzee656 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisnolan5607 he knows
@alessandrorigobello75513 ай бұрын
this is the composer. this is the musician. without him no genesis.
@DJVYEATES14 жыл бұрын
I have listened to a lot of music in my time but this song has been my favourite piece of music of all time. Very refreshing how Tony talks about it too. I want this played at my funeral, it would be lovely to go out surrounded by such an air of genius. Alas, I never saw Genesis in the Gabriel and have to makedo with the very good tribute band Musical Box, which is what I'm doing tomorrow night at Fairfield Halls.
@MyNana42013 жыл бұрын
I've never stopped finding inspiration from this song, I love the flute solo and the different movements within the very classical piece by them. It goes well with the musical box before or after for good meditation.
@claudioboafe69034 жыл бұрын
Uma linha melódica inigualável. Rara sensibilidade. Tenho predileção pelas composições de Tony Banks!
@SocietyOfMidnight15 жыл бұрын
When he says "Massive Mellotron" he's talking about when the ideas for that piece were first pitched; like the first time it was ever played.
@irw43502 жыл бұрын
the piano intro is my favourite = majestic & thrilling - the amazing Tony Banks - what else can you say ?
@guesser714 жыл бұрын
Nice of Tony to mention Steve, quite simply these two guys are the best musicians who ever lived --- END OF
@blackmarketbingo13 жыл бұрын
Hah, I love Tony's honesty. "Just flute and piano..without that bum note.." I agree, the flute/guitar solo makes the song, just as much as the intro does.
@trevizons14 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right guys, when Tony and Steve used to work and write together they made magic let alone Pete, Mike and Phil, but the main structure of those two virtuosos made the recipe for those old Genesis Masterpieces, whe I listen to their solo works ( Steve's and Tony's) it always comes to my mind a continuation of the Genesis classical sound, also with Peter first solo works, but not with Phil's or Mike's...
@Espectro1012 жыл бұрын
"Just like that, without the bump note". Love it. He is so humble.
@10jpmorgan9 жыл бұрын
This has always been one of TOP FAVORITE songs!
@IpCrackle14 жыл бұрын
yeah the guy is my piano/keyboardish hero!
@metalheadnick55514 жыл бұрын
I love the reference to King Crimson...when I first heard the song, my brother and I were both instantly reminded of "Epitaph"...in a good way :)
@polara016 жыл бұрын
great Insight from Tony and that's funny when he said "too King Crimsony"... I think when he said that it was more of a response of a fear that they would just sort of rip King Crimson off kind of a thing and needed to stick with their own sound I don't think he was taking a shot at them more of sort of hey guys that's too much sort of ripping their sound to make our own song kind of thing I think he meant it in that since which is totally understandable but even if they did end up sounding like King Crimson and bits and pieces that's not a bad thing it's actually a good thing and they did sort of intersect in some ways because the drama the storytelling and the mellotron backdrop just gives it that certain Erie mysterious sound that we all crave and Lust For and it's all good eating at that table. Peace, Bob
@PeapodEchoes14 жыл бұрын
A humble musical genius.
@0Fdigital11 жыл бұрын
He's my favourite composer, for sure.
@nasticanasta Жыл бұрын
One of my favs off this album
@janpierzchala2004 Жыл бұрын
Great melody. Obviously this is the finest hour (well) of lead guitar in Genesis history.
@rmartin75585 жыл бұрын
0:16 I could see David Banner hitch-hiking to this.
@theLukedishwasher5 жыл бұрын
The original and the best by an absolute light year.
@theblastocyst15 жыл бұрын
i love this man
@bierologeprof.prosten77928 жыл бұрын
Tony is a god
@marccosta73766 жыл бұрын
From 0:17 to 0:24. Lots of feelings in less than 10 seconds of music.
@salvonicotra34167 жыл бұрын
I love Genesis , I love Tony.
@SpaceCattttt7 жыл бұрын
And Frank Zappa. You have to love him as well.
@cindycallis54872 жыл бұрын
Firth or Fithis a absolutely beautiful song . Tony Banks is a Amy composer it could be seen Genesis’s Career.
@arfurlife12 жыл бұрын
My favourite Genesis tune. Pure genius.
@MilornDiester3 жыл бұрын
I like their solo albums but I always have that feeling that it's only a part of somethin greater. Oh... I wish they make something together once again.
@grumpyflyweight2 жыл бұрын
The flute solo is the best, but hearing Tony play it on the piano sounds more peaceful. Really strong tone there. Definitely something you would hear out of a drama film or drama series.
@Flatscores14 жыл бұрын
To me the kicker is the piano intro + synth solo in the middle though. It's just classic.
@davidharvey4059 Жыл бұрын
I was about 13 when Selling England came out, I loved it to bits It's only now I realise how wonderfully complex and beautiful it actually is. It's a bit of a masterpiece. In those days Genesis were known far more for their shows than their songs. That was entirely wrong.
@JeffSharonLive4 жыл бұрын
Tony Banks is a classical genius disguised as a keyboardist in a rock band.
@guyeylon16 жыл бұрын
That's brilliant! I've never seen this before! To know the best song ever began as a joke- Brilliant!! :D
@maciejkrasuski5 жыл бұрын
Tony Banks. Genius...
@irysbrassens12394 жыл бұрын
hello thank you for this moment about my favorite melody !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . C from France,
@rachelmorosky29635 жыл бұрын
the height of their creativity
@sr1422514 жыл бұрын
I used to play this song over and over so I could learn the piano part. I nearly wore out the record! So, so, so much better than that ABACAB crap. Old Genesis is the best.
@MrPstimolo13 жыл бұрын
esta canción me puede ...siempre lo sentí así ...tiene algo profundo ...trascendental
@Tracey696114 жыл бұрын
This. I wish I could remember where I saw it, but I found a pic of the two of them taken at Steve's 50th birthday party. Both were smiling. If there was truly a feud between them, I doubt they would have been in the same room much less posed for a picture. Tony, being as stubborn as he is, will not be coerced into doing what he doesn't want to do.
@shonieo10 жыл бұрын
ahhhh Tony Banks!
@0Fdigital11 жыл бұрын
Sure, technically their music became more simple, but even their pop music was weird. Tony Banks has an amazing talent for writing gorgeous pop songs with really strange chord progressions. And in my opinion, it's more satisfying to write a really concise pop song than a sprawling progressive rock piece. Maybe I've been writing progressive music for too long though.
@voice_of_reason56042 жыл бұрын
No Tony Banks, no Genesis. His great keyboard work was the foundation of the band's sound throughout.
@luuhinz11 жыл бұрын
It can never sound "too King Crimson" !!
@RubenRMunoz7 жыл бұрын
Tony is very cool!
@BaumerRichie5 жыл бұрын
Always wondered if Peter wrote that solo. Good to know!
@markthebest9012 жыл бұрын
happy birthday, tony
@sluf615 жыл бұрын
LARGA VIDA AL PROGRESIVO
@ronniefranco51211 ай бұрын
Tony wrote the riff and chords, but Steve turned them into the most amazing solo in prog, next to Comfortably Numb's.
@1PITIFULDUDE5 жыл бұрын
Can’t sum it up any better than that.
@clontstable17 жыл бұрын
"Without the bum note," Hah, hah.
@AlainHubert6 жыл бұрын
I'm sooo glad to see that even great talents like Tony do play bum notes from time to time, and honest enough to acknowledge them ! I feel better about my piano playing now.
@beamer.electronics3 жыл бұрын
People speak of this (or that) individual from a band being the greatest etc., but the truth is a group is like a remarkable mathematical product: 4x4x4x4 = 256 and not just a sum = 16. However, the Achilles heel of a product is ZERO if any individual fails or leaves - the total product also becomes 0 (4x4x0x4 = 0) ! That is harsh in respect of this mega-multi-talented band (I've been a lifelong fan), but it illustrates/hints at a general point.
@hexonatapeloop9 жыл бұрын
It's the intro that does it for me. And he has nothing to say about it!
@Drchainsaw776 жыл бұрын
Seriously! I've wanted to hear someone talk about that for ages, and no one ever does. Not where it came from, why it was dropped live (there are several explanations), and how it became what it was.
@ytnsanw5 жыл бұрын
@@Drchainsaw77 It was dropped live (originally, in the 70's) because there was no way of adequately reproducing a decent grand piano sound live (Tony only had a grotty RMI Electra Piano at the time) and by the time he had the sound available, the song had been dropped from the live repertoire.
@Drchainsaw775 жыл бұрын
@@@ytnsanw That's one explanation I've read over the years, that he didn't like the sound; another was that Tony found it unnecessarily difficult to play without the weight behind the keys of a real piano; and another explanation holds that during one gig, he found his fingers getting tongue-tied for whatever reason, making a hash of it, and following along as Phil mercifully counted the band in at the verse to put Tony out of his misery.
@Marunius5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was hoping to hear about the crazy harmony and time signature changes in the intro too!
@TheCorrectAnswer564 жыл бұрын
Drchainsaw77 I’ve heard live versions from 73 where they go straight into the verse and then live versions from 74 (the black show) where he plays it on the RMI electric piano which sounded like a child’s toy piano. I’ve heard he didn’t like the sound and had trouble playing it consistently live however the timeline dictates that he added the intro later in the tour which is interesting. And yes, where is the rest of this video??? Whoever was interviewing had Tony Banks sitting in front of a piano discussing how he wrote Firth Of Fifth and this is all we get from it?? A minute and a half? There has to be more. I saw the Suppers Ready video too but someone needs to sit down with Tony and have him go over in detail his writing process behind all of these classic Genesis songs. Sounds like he did that a little bit here but WHERE IS THE REST????
@NineDimensions198311 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree. After Wind and Wurthering that was it for my listening.
@akio27306 жыл бұрын
NineDimensions1983 And then they .... is a beautiful album, with some kind of sadness and romantic atmosphere.
@keithf_3 жыл бұрын
Although I stayed a loyal Genesis fan right to the very end I do agree with you about Wind & Wuthering being the swan song of prog era Genesis. They really lost something when Steve left the band.
@7cColin4 жыл бұрын
Tony has learned the value of being forced to accommodate others. His solo efforts didn't sell too well because they were too 'Tony'' if I could put it like that. I'm not knocking his talent here, just listen to what he says though. Working with the other guys produced the real goods. Tin hat on, but please know I love Tony Banks and I consider him to be one of the top prog rock creatives. McCartney wasn't the same without Lennon, Floyd without Waters etc
@GenesisFan0114 жыл бұрын
the funny thing is that Steve and Tony actually do get along fine nowadays. I think the fans like to keep the feud alive, particulary the Steve fans, just so they can continue to hate the group.
@jenniferpratt7653 жыл бұрын
Wow your natural tony banks
@ryadachaibou80982 жыл бұрын
It's funny to hear him call it too "King Crimson-y"
@0Fdigital11 жыл бұрын
It's all really good, imo. Maybe 'I Can't Dance' is taking it a bit too far, but Invisible Touch and We Can't Dance still contain some incredibly amazing songwriting. And yes, even Calling All Stations has its awesome moments. Ray Wilson is actually a really great vocalist.. and I say this as a huge Peter fan.
@radbodascyltoscynewulflivius3 жыл бұрын
I would never be the one to say you had no reason To want me somewhere else far far away But someday you may understand, someday you will see That someone who would die for you is all I've ever been
@cbast214 жыл бұрын
@AssociationAdmirer I was just thinking the same thing aboug "Firth of Fifth" the other day. The best parts of the song are the instrumental parts. In fact, I came to the realization that the main reason I like early Genesis songs is because of the instrumental parts, not the vocal parts.
@wicaksarosa Жыл бұрын
Genius indeed...
@GenesisFan0114 жыл бұрын
Well, Mike has always been more of a rocker type, and Phil grew up listening to a lot of black music. So did Peter, but Peter also wanted to do different things from that. Phil was more groove-oriented...even in the early days. He had a very jazzy feel to a lot of the stuff they did, which took away from the grandiose element of the music in general. Bottom line, it took all of them to make the magic that they made throughout their career as a band.
@radbodascyltoscynewulflivius3 жыл бұрын
You're very perceptive. Phil has already publicly criticised the early Genesis songs for their lack of groove. Whatever that means
@nectarinedreams7208 Жыл бұрын
@@radbodascyltoscynewulflivius I'd rather groove to Supper's Ready than Invisible Touch
@MyNana42013 жыл бұрын
@degree7 Wow, you've given me alot to respond to so I'll just hit a few key points on all of your posts. 1. I very much like to hear keyboards over the guitar, simply a personal preference. 2. It's not that the fan base was underground, rather we weren't the main stream, listen to anything crowd. Almost everyone in the group I hung with was either a very talented musician of their own right or came from a family full of them and had been exposed toa better quality of music than most. O.K.
@keykrazy015 жыл бұрын
Yeah, same here! From '81, anyways, when i first heard them.
@Musiquesaecouter11 жыл бұрын
Some would describe this like just a change, somehow it fitted to the times and so much other unexpected radio listeners, maybe it was not the best musical changes in words of sophisticated compositions, but sure Genesis knew the way to go for their success, and they deserved after all they had done. Today they offer to every listeners a good choice of different style albums, 5 heavy prog with Peter, 5 others in their progressiv changes with Phil until "Abacab", and then the 5 last poppy ones
@rolandneumann15335 жыл бұрын
Genius.
@0Fdigital11 жыл бұрын
Also, it's great to have a positive debate on youtube :D
@SpaceCattttt7 жыл бұрын
I'm grateful they kept it, because it's one of the greatest things they ever did. Or have done so far? ;)