True but he did a lot better than most. He's very eloquent

@@dg8620 he's a greedy hypocrite, talking about spiritual richness whilst grabbing as much material richness as he possibly can. The man is a fraud and a liar with zero moral credibility, another two-faced false prophet.

I can’t believe Blair thought he had any credibility being a mass murderer who had to be given immunity from future prosecution.

While I am on the other side of him on this debate, I greatly admire his willingness to do this and his effort at debating in good will.

He actually did a good job. I am a new atheist, but we got a few things wrong in retrospect. Got to love Hitchens, though.

He didn’t like his name shortened

🤣

Ha yesssss! Forgot about those!

Well unfortunately Hitchens was also a huge supporter of the Iraq war.

And he held himself in incredibly high regard. Humility was never a word associated with Christopher Hitchens.

You are asking Christopher to rest in peace???? (!).

He has gone to see his Maker. I wonder how that has affected his beliefs.

@@wheelsofafrica Maker!?. What a strange belief you have.

@@wheelsofafrica We evolved from lower species. We were not created by some magical God.

WMDS in lraq? He was an established twonk

@@davepowell7168 No one said he was.infallible and being human he could be wrong and he would be the first to admit it but.that doesn't make him wrong.about everything.

@@nealgrimes4382 l enjoyed his role as an eloquent religious antagonist, however after the debate with his brother (ref. Hitchins v Hitchins 2011)changed my mind. Unsurprisingly nobody was dumb enough to sell Hussein anything harder than enough to irritate lsrael The project Babylon gun (Sheffield steel?) was a masterpiece of Bull (refs available) The geopolitical motives were clear and in print by 2000 and the guy wasn't a fool. RlP Dr David Kelly . First person recorded to have committed suicide from severing the ulnar artery alone ? Co-proxamol was present. A man of great integrity

@@nealgrimes4382 l agree with your comment but bullshit is best spread by assets with a long history of being rational, intelligent and right. In Christopher Hitchins case he doesn't have to answer to God. I suspect that there may be some filtering in the recycling of human sentience (the soul?)and Christopher was good at his work. I have a personal grudge against religious indoctrination and still enjoyed much of his style of humour but this guy knew of US foreign policy (PNAC) before 2000. You're aware of his bloodline

@@davepowell7168 It was the only bad decision he ever made imo. But don't throw the baby out with the bath water...

is it because he's first and foremost, a politician ?

@@MrDaiseymayI think he was a lawyer before that.

Because he can’t. No one can effectively answer those questions with reason alone.

The points are very easy to address, Mr Blair was just laughably underprepared. No idea why he’s debating Hitchens on a topic he knows little to nothing about, other than his ‘name’ gets bums on seats.

My thoughts exactly.

The truth, as he saw it, sadly.

​@@norwegianblue2764the truth as supported by facts, whereas belief is supported by cult members.

@@mark-ishTrue, the Nuns taught me as a boy that man was created by God in his image. I, as I age now know that God and Gods were created by man in the image of man.

Yes! Or Djokovic playing a match against my 11 year old.

Justin Sands Yeah, when C.H died Blair showed a huge amount of respect to him.

To be fair to Blair, everyone who agrees to debate Hitchens gets their ass kicked

@@FrankieHchannel Hitchens supported the invasion of Iraq and Blair certainly appreciated that.

@@AlvenmodFoto I heard Richard Dawkins say in an interview that "If you're offered to debate with Hitchens, just say no".

@@jamesanthony5681he was openly capitalist so yeah that seems to add up lol

You are in for a great ride! The man is a legend for a reason. Enjoy going through the doors of knowledge that Christopher will open for you

I hope you discover past Christopher Hitchens as well.

I discovered him a few years ago as well (I’m 36 now), and brother, you are in for a KZfaq rabbit hole of a lifetime. Enjoy every minute. He reads his book, “God is not Great” which is also on KZfaq. I’m jealous of your first-time experiences with Mr. Hitchens, but happy you’ve arrived at the party!

I discovered him about a year or so ago and I’ve certainly had a different outlook upon discovering . I truly hope his message and ethos spreads and stands the test of time.

@@paulwilliams5500 Id like to read his book too, its hard to get where I come from (Honduras), but ill try to look for it on KZfaq, thanks Man.

Like so many snake oil salesmen, they hide behind religion.

And to cleanse the guilt within his soul

Sureee ​@@markscreen5509

he had no knowledge on the subject, only poor clichés

Blair was very poor here, said not one thing that made me view religion in a more positive light. Only there for his fee.

With all the death and destruction blair inflicted on the world, there is no surprise he's "found" religion.

And yet he won.

@@sheilamacdougal4874 Really? How did you score that?

thats not the half of it

@BarryDong... Created superior to 8.5 million other species on Earth and created the rulers of this planet... Created with gifts, talents, nobility, and in the image and likeness of God... Not only that -- but God died for the sins of humankind so that we may have eternal happiness in Heaven. Such things are fairly generous for a Celestial Dictator.

@@bobgarrett7134 You're absolutely right. When I posted that comment I had lost my faith, but I have since found it again.

@@RadagonTheRed If that were only true, you'd be one of many atheists who've seen the light. Raised in a militant atheist family, Sy Garte became a respected research biochemist with an anti-theistic worldview-and he had no intention of seeking a God he didn’t believe in. That is, until the very science he loved led him to question the validity of an atheistic worldview. These questions led him to wonder about the true nature of the world, and eventually the Holy Spirit guided him to a belief in God, and in Jesus Christ …. Alister McGrath, a historian and biochemist scientist who believed in evolution. A professor of science, he became a Christian apologist …. Francis Collins is an American physician-geneticist and atheist who discovered gene diseases and led the Human Genome Project. He investigated many faiths, and though he resisted, the evidence was clear. He converted to Roman Catholicism …. John Gurdon, a developmental biologist is known for his research in nuclear transplantation and cloning. He’s a Nobel prize winner in Physiology Medicine. He converted from agnosticism to Christianity …. John Eccles, a neurophysiologist and a Nobel Prize winner in Physiology Medicine was an atheist who converted to Christianity …. Rosalind Picard was raised as an atheist and converted as a young adult. She is a scholar and inventor who founded MIT’s Affective Computing Research Group. She has received the highest professional honors accorded for engineering skills. She converted to Christianity …. Famed astronomer, Allan Sandage, was an atheist who converted to Christianity, stating, "I could not live a life full of cynicism. I chose to believe, and a peace of mind came over me” …. Blaise Pascal was raised in a secular environment and contributed to scientific advancements in mathematics, mechanical engineering, physics, fluid dynamics and probability theory. He proposed the probabilistic argument God known as Pascal's wager, to justify belief in God and a virtuous life. Not only scientists but highly educated people in general become Christians: …. Gilbert West was an eminent English poet who studied at Oxford. He tried to debunk the resurrection of Jesus but could not. He became a Christian and wrote the book ‘Observations on the History and Evidence of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ …. Simon Greenleaf, a chief founder of Harvard Law School, referred to Christianity as a silly myth. After being challenged by students based on historical evidence, over several decades, he became a believer in Jesus Christ and Christianity .… Albert Henry Ross an Englishman lawyer and journalist. He criticized the Bible and believed in Darwin. He wrote a book to disprove the resurrection of Jesus. Instead, he became a Christian …. Anthony Flew was a famous spokesperson of atheism before Dawkins and Hitchens. The world was shocked when he suddenly admitted God exists in 2004 and wrote a book about it. He based it on scientific, empirical, and philosophical evidence. If you’re an objective thinker who pursues objective truth obsessively, and in a rational way, eventually you’ll become a Christian …. Devout Muslim Intellect Nabeel Qureshi investigated Christianity for 15 years trying to disprove it in favor of Islam. Although he had believed firmly in the God of Islam for decades, after examining the evidence he uncovered, he decided to leave Islam for Jesus Christ and Christianit …. Lee Strobel is an investigative journalist. He was an atheist and tried to prove the Bible was not valid. The evidence he acquired changed his mind, and he became a Christian …. Jordan Peterson, an astute and rational intellectual and world-famous philosopher. He said the Bible has proven to be more durable than stone or an empire, and it’s a life-changing academic and historical text. He credits it with his conversion to Christianity.

@@bobgarrett7134There is no such thing as sin, just human stupidity and cruelty.

*eloquence, but petty corrections aside, he is indeed missed.

The Beast Bloody hell, i was 15 when I wrote that. seems a life time. Dearest Hitch though, miss him more everyday.

@@ExSkitzophrenic I bet you’re missing him the most right now.

@@ExSkitzophrenic how old are you?

WMDS in lraq? Established twonk

Such hypocrisy.

I was thinking the same . But even the devil believes in God

@@hasan_z What devil? What god? They are both beliefs.

@@DepakoteMeister yes but beliefs are a factor in determining the truth. There is a game in which a contestant is told increasingly ridiculous statements and has to guess whether they are true or false. The trick is the more "believable" stuff is generally made-up and the craziest ones are often real. Now based on the knowledge you can get from various sources it's up to you to decide what you *think* is true. A person who says God is real isn't lying because they actually believe that.

@@hasan_z Beliefs are not a factor in determining truth, facts are. And no one suggested believers are lying. We humans are so easily fooled, and none of us are exempt. Some of us are less easily fooled. The biggest difference between believers and non-believers is that non-believers don't claim to have all the answers and are willing to alter their views to fit with new evidence as required.

Hitchens was a massive cheerleader for the Iraq war as well

Stupid comment

@@dangordon8665 Perhaps he believed Blair's lies.

Not to worry. His existence ceased and that is what he eagerly desired. no kidding.

Lol. Hitchens was possibly the loudest voice in the West outside of government officials favouring the invasion. And what any of this has to do with the topic of this video only someone who wallows in irrelevant ad hominems understands.

And what an honest thinker

I very much doubt it, but it’s a nice thought.

@JonGUK ... I don't miss him.

He was an established fearmonger. WMDS in lraq?

@@davepowell7168 True. Hitch ran his mouth endlessly without knowing what he was talking about. A professional rabble rouser like Trump -- just on the other extreme.

Mr. powell, I think you are naive!

@@arthurstevens4351 No weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. No reason for fear or war. Now we need that money -- and what we provoked is Al Quaeda

Who is he?

​@@steffanhoffmanndon't be lazy, google is your friend

Spot on.

Catholicism isn't exactly new. Unless of course you are referring to Hitchen, which would be strange since he isn't defending claim, much less a belief, here. Also, have you ever noticed how people, who don't have any good arguments, appeal to "common sense" rather than make their case for their actual beliefs?

A man with UNcommon sense! I've watched many Hitchens debates. I believe this was his finest! However, Blair was pretty good also in his opening remarks. Were I part company is in the idea that good things can only be spawned by a belief in something unbelievable. If co-operation theory replaced religious instruction in primary and secondary school then surely the world would be a better place.

@@TheYuvimon I'll repeat and correct a typo! A man with UNcommon sense! I've watched many Hitchens debates. I believe this was his finest! However, Blair was pretty good also in his opening remarks. Where I part company is in the idea that good things can only be spawned by a belief in something unbelievable. If co-operation theory replaced religious instruction in primary and secondary school then surely the world would be a better place.

Both have short term memory when hearing the body count.....and the result of millions of displaced refugee's.

Yep. A hideous hypocritical empty vessel of a human

Our world would be a far more peaceful place without religion. Islam included.

The Middle East was a relatively peaceful place until Islam was created.

Best way to become an atheist is to read the religious texts critically. Take the Christian bible. I can name 3 stories where children died as a direct result of the god from that book. 1- Noah’s Ark - when god flooded the Earth to wipe out all of mankind except for Noah’s family and some animals, it wasn’t just adults he was killing. 2- the tenth plague of Egypt - firstborn sons. He could have just killed the Pharaoh and his men, but decided this was more appropriate! Eventually killed them by closing the parted seas on them anyway, meaning the firstborns died for nothing! 3- the story of Job (pronounced Jobe) - Job’s children died in this story out of God’s pure ego to win a bet with the devil that Job would still love him after losing everything. This story is messed up and the most awful reason for any child to die! I challenge you now to read the Quran cover to cover with a critical mind. I guarantee you’ll find flaws. Not because it’s written by god, but it’s most certainly and obviously written by man. Once you’ve read through it, drop me a line with your thoughts and most troubling verse that makes you think maybe it’s not the best thing to write in the religious text?

@@allstarwatt7246 Especially Islam

You are not a Muslim

That is a lovely way to put this and so true. If only the world was this way

Yeah this is very rare these days! You watch Hitchens vs a load of Americans, there will be shouting, interrupting, etc! Watch anything with Piers Morgan, I don’t think a single one of his guests can get a word in! I’ve never really liked Tony Blair, but gained a little respect for him in this as he gave a lot of respect. Hitchens for the win though!

@@seanreeder5784 your right about Morgan. He doesn't let anyone get a word in unless he agrees with them. I also think he has some infatuation with Meagan and harry! I think Tony Blair was brave having a debate with Christopher.

There will be those, of course, who will claim, that it was Gods Will.

@@MrDaiseymay about as credible as claiming it was spidermans will

Religion is the source of 'all ' evil ?! That's very obviously not true !! (I'm atheist btw)

hilarious irony

I'm sorry you feel that way, and God loves you in spite of it.

Grow up 😂 he was a bitter and confused man and the world doesn’t need people preaching Jesus didn’t exist

Hitchens Never murdered millions of innocent Human Civilians, you mug.

@sheisegall3832. I intended to make an informed comment after watching this amazing debate. After reading your reply, I believed that you have eloquently stated what I would have wished to have said. Well done.

6:00 definitely not dated

In defence of Blair, I've seen few people debating Hitchens with an adequate arsenal of weapons. He simply was that well armed, and indeed, RIP.

But the bullets were blank.

@@AndrewHindley Sorry, that went straight over my head.........

There were no bullets on the gun though

In the full length vid, Blair's ENTIRE argument was, "Sure, religion has destroyed BILLIONS of lives...but some believers also do charity....!" Stephen Fry did a wonderful send-up of this pathetic "argument/excuse" in his and Hitch''s debate against the catholic church: The accused speaks at his trial, "Why do you keep bringing up my crimes...? You never bring up the fact that I always give my father a birthday present...!"

I won't accept ANY excuse for his evil

What do you need hitchens for, to cushion the religious rift as a fart cushion?😂

@@mikesmith8313 To continue slapping down religious freaks with delusions of importance.

Exactly.. why would the religious politician feel that faith in a god is needed in order to do charity?

"Finally"? It's been said and believed by thinkers since very ancient times. Please see the Wikipedia articles named "Secular morality" and "Secular humanism" and you will find many examples. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_morality and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism

So, how come the secular conclusion is; 'Human Rights is Nonsense upon stilts'?

@@philflip1963 you are just making an unsubstantiated generalization.

Tony blair couldn't spell the word MORALS.

I admire his left-brained capacity for getting his message across to try and win an argument at all costs; I think it's a shame that he never tried to forge a link between his head and heart.

The intellectual warrior was on Blair's side when it comes to the Iraq War.

@@Phil_Mitchell America, with the help of Britain, invaded Iraq to steal their oil.

Apparently not, as we have you.

I agree with the previous commenter; “stop talking about what a good man should be; be a good man “

Ever heard the saying "wolf in sheep clothing". Blair is evil to the core.

Used the time to read comments 😂

Correct

I skipped most of Hitchen's responses.

😢💔😓

You find Blairs 'argument' compelling? His argument is simply that religion and religious organisations carry out some charity work these days so let's forget the untold millions killed by every type of faith across the world...

Blair = phony

If you believe in no god, how do you believe the universe started?

Inspiring ? As in 'in spirit' ? That goes against everything that Hitchens stood for.

@@Adipsia1 Word games aside, I don't ascribe to his theological views at all.

yep, the only thing missing, was his Soap Box.

Hee haw word salad of paternalistic patronizing platitudes. Clanking cymbal symphony.

'Considered rightly a Great Christian thinker ' Christopher Hitchens CH burbled about lraq WMDS after invasion. Both twonks

...as well as upper middle class and has never wanted for anything.

logic vs delusion

@@allstarwatt7246 30 years ago that would have been my stance too. Time has clearly made me more delusional. Good luck with the logic.:)

Yep. But Blair much more so I think. Hitchen's stance in Iraq was wrong imo, but it was his only serious mistake. And then only an opinion... not an invasion.

Mr Blair was addressing the motion that "Religion is a force for good" Mr Hitchens was simply mocking religion.

Nicely put my friend 👏

I would say that religion is quite the opposite, or at least Christianity. If you follow the progresses made from Ancient Egypt to Greece to the Roman empire, we moved from strength to strength. Only for religion to come along put us in the dark ages and make sure that we stop progression. That god needs us to worship him not improve ourselves is what we were told.

Dfrase Good analyses. And this doesn’t even mention Asia where at one time in history was the most advanced civilization developed far removed from Judaism-Christianity.

Well said