that's a bit of a stretch. teyana deserved her win.

3 times if you count the first time in All Stars where Angelea was crowned as the winner, just for her to get DQ'ed and then give the title to effing Lisa

💯💯💯

Teyona deserved her win, and you Allison's fans just cannot be objective at all.

I heard Allison was originally supposed to be the default winner for All Stars. But declined the win, because she didn't want to be associated with Angelea's disqualification controversy. So happy to hear Allison's getting married. Yay! :)

ABSOLUTELY! I think ANTM had just been under pressure for never placing a plus size model so this was their chance. It definitely felt like a pity pick.

So true!

Whitney's win was a joke

Or Fatima! That one was a double robbery!

Outside of the whole pre-select winner theory that has been discussed on other outlets, another theory for more later cycles (past cycle 7 or 8) to some of the losses was they gave the win to the finalist that they felt like needed the win and the prizes to help bolster their career more. I think the first indication was the Saleisha from the cycle prior and Whitney was also another arguable winner for this situation.

I know I read it on reddit today. Time 10:40PM Sat 10/23/21

thought this was a meme lol

Really? Wow Everyone loves Allison, and hopes the best for her...

I just farted.

O that's awesome

I actually saw her from afar when she visited a strip of mall in the Philippines. She looked so beautiful even though I saw her side view and wearing sunglasses and a wide brimmed hat

Allison deserved to win hands down. Without a doubt..!!

I think Allison should have won cycle 17

I disagree that Allison Shouldn't have won her first season because then we wouldn't have seen her in the All Star season. There were no past winners in the All Star season.

Nope. Teyona won her cycle fair and square.

Most people do.

Teyona was the right choice for Cycle 12 but Allison should’ve absolutely won Cycle 17

No.

Whitney's win INFURIATED me as an ANTM fan back in the day. Anya really deserved that title.

Also, Anya got a lot of Best Pictures while Whitney only got one. The top 2 should be Anya and Fatima. Whitney should've been eliminated a long time ago. Even though she has a plus size body but her personality is terrible especially when she, Claire and Lauren bullied Dominique over an alarm. Kudos to Dominique for not crying and stand up for herself at that time.

@@margarethmichelina5146 Whitney shouldn't have even made top 3, because Katarzyna deserved to be up there with Anya and Fatima

Fatima looked like a young Iman

Anya, Fatima, Katarzyna should have been top 3.

I was livid

Amen. I've never watched since.

Same...easily should've been in the top 5 most robbed. She was leaps and bounds ahead of the other two finalist...

She was robbed even in this video

To this day she still working for big brands, she should've been number 2 or 3

Who cares? She clearly was high fashion material from the getgo. ANTM is a television show. Most winners have been flops, whatsoever.

Forever my fav

Agreed!

Twice

Twice

Obviously

She was wonderful

I agree

Alexandria was by far the best

@lizziemcguire1 Absolutely agreed. She had an amazing look, arguably the best runway walk and she took killer photos. She did win the go-sees challenge after all.

I love Hannah’s portfolio too!

That cycle had my FAVORITE photos.

Congrats to Allison who is getting Married. Time 10:20PM Sat 10/23/21

I agree but Melrose can walk so its def her

That was a very close one for sure. I would have given it to Melrose because Caridee couldn’t walk a runway.

Melrose was a better model

@@CesarCuriel15 Agreed. Melrose was robbed and was so much better.

My thoughts exactly 💯

But she was tho 🤷🏾‍♀️

@@EyERuNiT She wasn’t though? 🤔 I get a confident black woman from Yaya. Tyra on the other hand comes off with the superiority complex.

@@EyERuNiT Confidence from a black woman feels condescending to some people that think she should feel lowly about herself.

@@Pooh_Bella she was very confident but that shady ‘respecito’ shirt was kind of condescending

I don't think Caridee reserved her win (despite being likeable). In the context of the season. Melrose had a better track record, plus she KILLED that finale runway.

@@jem8775 Caridee is probably my bias but we still have to take everything into consideration, portfolio plus likeability

Agreed.

Caridee? Nope!!! Even michelle is so much better than her...Go Melrose!!!

but it gave us life in our younger years

@@jae5103 yeah. We didn't know better

Tbh I think Teyona had the edge on Allison but All Stars was just a total embarrassment for everyone involved.

​@@Platinum400 Teyona had no edge over Allison.

T !!!

IKR!!

Korto from Project Runway

And Jujubee 😔

Purrrr sis 💅🏾💯✊🏾

She is a Playboy playmate now

@@Syoma oh really

allison. but yeah, khrystyana was robbed, too

Khrystyana didnt win because of her walk.

Anya deserved it more

Me too!

She should have won!

Agreed! Nik was amazing and should have won. A couple of years later I watched Nicole on the runway for an event in the UK where she wore something my friend had made and she was horrible. She literally sulked and had a miserable face throughout the whole thing. She ruined it.

That was such a robbery !!!!!

idk she looked old & was boring

I'm surprised they didn't give any cycle 2 mentions on this video, because as much as I liked Yoanna, I thought Mercedes should've won instead

Totally agree. C3 and C6 were tough calls, but I leaned towards Yaya and Dani. C5 & C10 were absolute bullshit - Nik & Anya were brutally burglarized.

@@CASantos I'm surprised C4 wasn't mentioned, because if we're talking tough calls, that's another one

@@NYChica23 Naima definitely deserved to win

True

the reason why Nicole C5 won was because they were looking for with a modern look. By no doubt, Nik was beautiful but Nicole had the look that was "in" at the time and they didn't want to take the chance of not letting Nicole win. (The same thing happened with Yoanna, Mercedes was kinda better in portfolio but Yoanna had that model face)

You're so right...!! Remember Fatima she's literally modeling. And she didn't even win. Unlike the real winners they aren't. I think these shows are just to put these ppl are so they can stand out of the crowd & to show their skills..!! But I'm happy 4 Yaya DaCosta, she's doing big things now..!!

Remember Furonda now she's a realtor..!! Some of the winners are doing Avon or have wayyy different jobs not pertaining to modeling industry. There was a video on it. I was like " Huhhh "..!!

how it rightfully shouldve been: adrianne yoanna yaya naima nik joanie melrose jaslene jenah anya mckey teyona nicole krista ann molly allison laura leila jourdan lenox nyle india khrystyana

As well as anya I think she's russian as well

Lol Joanie was better to Danielle

I have to agree with a comment Ms. Mojo made during the Joanie vs Danielle segment, "if ever there was a time to call a tie, this was it". I also love that these 2 beautiful women truly seem to like & respect each other. Not sure if that was just my interpretation but I hope it was true.

Cari didn't deserve to win. Her final runway performance was the worst in the history of the show. I think the only reason she won was that Melrose covergirl photo was bad, while Caridee was stellar.

@@zairnermuller4960 That's not the only reason. Melrose was too old for Seventeen Magazine when Caridee suited for them perfectly. It was their first contract with ANTM, so they possibly didn't want to take risk.

@@zairnermuller4960 caridee was still better

@Sahal E. M. Patel Jayla as runner-up? Lmao, nice joke

@Sahal E. M. Patel I would've put Kim as runner up

Keep in mind they just had Eva then Naima as winners so they wanted a white girl. They would’ve had 3 light skin/mixed race girls win in a row and covergirl wanted a white girl with a different look

I will forever remember the look of disgust and the feelings of betrayal I felt when I saw Nicole's face pop up. Smh, Nik was better.

Joanie was amazing too.. i dont know what your talking about

Me too..she shouldn't be on this list...either joannie or dani deserved to win...so it's fair to both of them ..

Joanie was great but most of the FCOs she got should have gone to other people

Eva was just loud and obnoxious. People mistake that for interesting.

Honestly, I think the judges, especially Tyra, were shocked by both how well regarded and strong Allison was from the get-go to the end. I have a feeling neither the production nor any of the judges were going to crown her the winner, and they were planning on eliminating her on something she never gave: a bad, or in Dominque’s case, less than stellar week.

@@marklisowski6549 allison didn't want to take angelea title from her

They know runner ups will be successful anyways you don't have to win to be great

This and their comment to anya was she comes off as fake, but when they had the challenge to mingle, that was the comment to whitney not to anya.

Raina’s lost to Krista has been most noted of a mindset from mid to later cycles that the show give the win to the contestant they felt like need it more, like Krista (who was 24) over Raina, Ann who notably tall, over Chelsea, but you can pickup from other cycles like Saleisha over Chantal, Whitney over Anya, etc.

I agree. If Melrose didn’t have such a rude attitude, the judges would’ve think different. Also she’s a perfectionist. If she doesn’t do something “perfectly” she breaks down.

I agree with you! And Caridee had much stronger portfolio!

Agreed. Lol I remember rooting for CariDee from the get-go. I felt like she was really charismatic and the "girl next door" type of look. Modeling came natural for her. One of my favorite photos from the whole series was her matador photoshoot in Barcelona.

@@spencers4198 I liked that one. But my favorite was the circus picture.

Agree melrose does come as out as fake and forced. She never really stood out to me.

Well nik was bouncing nicole didn't

Nicole begged on her knees lol

I agree with your comment, except the Alexandra part. Alexandra was terrible to everyone. She was the bully. And then played the victim. She deserved what she got. She was nasty.

@@patrizziad3446 she wasnt bullying anyone, she was just odd and didnt mesh with anyone, how can one person bully a group of people by herself. She was ostracized and her privacy was invaded.

@@dennisvillaflor3359 go watch that season again. She was the bully. She mistreated all of the girls. And then, the roles were reversed. She was terrible

Danielle did not Nicole

Yeah Nik was way more consistent and the bouncy walk they were complaining about is the walk that most models currently have

Um no because they succesful anyways

Some people say it might be partly a reason why they didn't win

During a reunion episode for this cycle on Tyra Bank’s talk show, she admitted they were aiming more for high fashion model for the winner, and they felt Nicole, especially as they went abroad, was the most “high fashion”, with other contestants either veering too much on the commercial side, not consistent enough with body of work, and in Lisa’s case, and over their attitude:personality.

Love her Instagram

@@marklisowski6549 This comment makes me happy, I've always supported Nichole and it hurts me how everyone practically mistreats her in favor of Nik.

either way- Angelea or Allison (I love allison!!) I still do not get how Lisa won. I mean how?

I always thought the same

Bueno todos sabemos que en el ciclo uno, Adriane nunca recibió los premios, Tayra nunca hizo nada para ayudarla solo una agencia le dió un poco de dinero para que no se viera tan mal, y es más que obvio que a quien querían de ganadora era ha Elyse pero ella triunfo en Japón.

Elyse did a fantastic job in Asia, Hong Kong, Japan……

Cycle 9, anyone in top 5 is better than the winner.

I agree! Lenox was awesome there was just something about her.

I’ll never get over it either…shes on a different league over everyone in that season and whats worse is even Adam finished higher than her…thats just rude

So she can suffer ?

Keith was an odd choice to win, but whereas I’ll defend that Nyle being deaf wasn’t the reason he won ( If anything, they would have booted him during semi-finals auditions for that since they weren’t aware of him being deaf when they found Nyle via social media), I think his past as an NFL player may have played into him winning. In addition, I think may won/been pre-select for the following reason: 1. Despite sobering up, Adam drinking issues was going to prevent him from winning. 2. Like with other winners, it was “give the win and prizes to who they felt needed it more 3. Possibly, I wouldn’t put it past Tyra for wanting the male contestant who she may have had a crush on (regardless if she was dating someone at the time) to win.

Who?

I believe you but where did you hear that? I’m just wondering.

I think it was around saleisha that I lost faith in antm. I missed Whitney's series altogether. I think after the jaslene comeback win (which felt scripted) and then seleishia getting the perfect haircut for the Asian market, and coming from a Tyra Banks camp to then win it felt so staged, I didn't watch Whitney's season, just have done recently and once again the story is there for the plus size model to win. Also Alison was robbed twice

Chantal was one of my favorites of all time. She was gorgeous AND personable. Saleisha SUCKED with that stupid Tootie hairdo

Yes they should have mentioned Chantal. Both Chantal and Jenah should have been the top two. I would have picked Jenah over Chantal (close) but Saleisha? No way. Besides Allison, this was the worst robbery. Actually, the 2nd and 3rd worst mistakes were double robberies…. Saleisha over Jenah/Chantal and Whitney over Anya/Fatima.

@@TreebeardWood This... I agree, yes, Jenah should have won over Chantal. They should've been the final 2, but let's face it, Tyra wanted Saleisha to win. Interesting thing about Allison though, is Teyona did deserve her win, they were both neck and neck, so it was anybody's game... But All Stars? That was her time to win smh

I mentioned this elsewhere, but Saleisha and followed by Whitney were the start of a notion (for cycles past 7 or 8) to where they were awarded the win to the girl who they felt needed it more and not necessary they were the best performer. While this has been regarded for winners like Krista and Ann, I think Saleisha was initial to this mindset/theory

but it will all be an "experiment hahahaha"

She preys on videos like these to get some attention

Leave her alone y'all don't know her

I disagree about Teyona

@@KittenUndercover disagree but it's true

@@star-cf1zm it's my opinion..opinions are not right or wrong

@@KittenUndercover lol idc

For 12, it should be Teyona. But for 17, Allison.

Tyra hated Katarzyna for some reason, she even refused to pronounce her name properly.

@@geenalawrence8338 I remember that too. And Katarzyna was so quiet and drama-free, I really didn't understand the hostility.

@@Siansonea I agree I thought Katarzyna would be in the top two with Anya they were the most consistent and most high fashion to me. I didn't understand Tyra giving her another makeover cutting her hair I mean Katarzyna looked great before and after I think they were trying to break her down.

I agree I think Teyona deserved her win but Allison was totally robbed during All Stars. Lisa is such an embarrassing human being I don’t see how anyone could take her seriously let alone professional modeling agencies and designers.

With that argument, I’ll say that Jade may have been the intended winner for Cycle 6, but like Elyse and even Lisa from her original cycle, the production and judges got too exhausted/over them, and decided to eliminate instead on who was supposed to be the winner.

Dani had a better walk but Joanie had much better photos. I still think it’s the only cycle that deserved a double win, both girls were FANTASTIC models.

Yep.

They were both pretty good.

Loved Dani and Joanie

Fans don't care they rather Allison khrystana leila to suffer

I think the issue is that in the fashion industry you are constantly working with other models, and she isn’t easy to get on with therefore would struggle, and when walking live on the runway, you have to accept things go wrong and the way she had a meltdown about the ripped dress was very unprofessional and again she couldn’t work well with Caridee and just accept her apology and get over it whereas Caridee was apologetic and calm

Also how much they went on at Caridee for a joke that Nigel actually laughed back at and joked with her about is really unfair considering they didn’t talk at all about her meltdowns at challenges, her getting rude with Caridee and her being rude to Mr Jay

Yeah she wasn't robbed but I preferred her over Teyona.

So was Allison. Allison also stumped that final runway amd covergirl photo

I’m with you there! As much as I love Alison she was only robbed once in cycle 17

@@FeelingMyOats Teyona deserved it. Was also never in the bottom two 🤷🏾‍♀️

Teyona was in the bottom to once with aminat

oh god is she still on the q train? i was banned from even viewing her facebook page(i kept calling her a hypocrite/etc for her anti blm/anti anything left wing stance)

I agree on that, yes he was handsome but that was it. Mame was the real deal.

@@zairnermuller4960 THAT PART. He's handsome AF, I'll never take that from him, but he's a very basic Ken doll type model

Omg yess! Mame was so robbed. She destroyed Nyle on Final Runway

I actually don’t think they picked Kyle because he deaf. Despite setbacks, he said as able to use deafness/signings to his advantage at points. Nyle’s win definitely felt different, but the show originally was supposed to end this cycle. If ANTM last another Cycle on the CW, I can actually see either Lacey (give the win to the contestant they felt they needed it the most) or Mikey actually winning. In addition to favoring guys, when they could, to win when they allowed them to compete, I think Nyle won moreso since he was arguably the more “working ready” model, and since the show was supposed to end, it seemed they wanted pick a model that going to find work on modeling right after crowning the winner and even hopefully from said “luxury brands”. In addition, there is one thing that people overlook, despite Mame mentioning she was competing in Miss USA right after competing, that was going to prevent Mame from winning from the start, and that was Mame was pageant girl (and as Mame emphasized, she was the “pageant girl”, even over other contestants, like Robin, Cassandra (Cycle 5), and Hassadah.) Even if they were allowed to compete, I don’t either think Tyra (possibly due to issues with being compared to someone like Vanessa William (watch Robin’s criticism of being too pageantry from the judging of the commercial from Cycle 1 for better context) and ANTM production had any intention to have any winner that came for pageants.

@@marklisowski6549 I get you. However Vanessa Williams and Mamé are two different people. Mamé for the most part has tried her best to distance herself from pageantry and she's VERY editorial, especially with her face and body type.

Well you should get over it that was years ago good thing she didn't because she still succesful and saleshia did well her walk slayed

Yes!! She was my favorite, I hope she continued doing something related to modeling because she was really good

agree

I think included the 3rd place, or even considered some 4th place contestants, since, they made it all the way the final episode and still in the running in the final episode.

Mercedes? Seriously? I would believe you about April but Mercedes was not that strong and she was very inconsistent. The real end of cycle II must have been Shandi with April.

Honestly the whole final four that season was strong to me.

Whitney was also racist.

Definitely Anya shoud've been number 1!

I have a feeling the reason Nik didn't win was because she had a similar look to Naima.

@@missyd1215 They look nothing alike.

@@TheeKookyWildflower You can definitely draw similarities between the two. One being their ethnic backgrounds. They both had an edgier/high fashion look. In my opinion their personalities/demeanor are somewhat similar (at least how they were portrayed on the show).

I think Elyse was supposed to win, but they decided to oust her instead over issues with her being condescending due to her higher intelligence. Also, she falling asleep during that casting didn’t help her either, if not being more downplayed than it was. Tyra admitted to the show picking Nicole since they felt like she was more high fashion than Nik. While I can get the argument with Melrose, people argued that Caridee has a better portfolio, most notably the Covergirl ad, liking her personality more, both bubbly and “loose cannon”, and the fact that Caridee would go on to be a spokesperson/model. The Psoriasis angle was something people do overlook with Caridee

@@marklisowski6549 As well as with Seventeen being one of the sponsors for C7, it clearly made sense that Tyra would give the win to the more commercial/youthful model over the more mature one

Victoria placed 6th actually. The contestant who placed 5th that cycle is Kristin Kagay.

totally agree with you 1000000 percent

Um no teyona deserved it

Well most people do. Teyona bores me to death honestly.

Teyona was right winner in the first Allison's cycle. She was more consistent than Allison during the whole competition. I do agree she shoud've won Lisa tho.

Threatened ? How ? Why ?

No allison declined the allstar title because she didn't want to associate with angelea being disqualified

The reason why anya lost is because in the finale on the runway she fell apart and didn't perform well and whitney stay consistent and did well and prevail over anya so I believe that's why whitney won over anya hands down...

If you watched afterwards, or have even followed the Top 10s Ms, Mojo does on ANTM, you definitely missed out on Nina’s controversial elimination.

Agree