At least Gate Guardian got used once in Duel Monsters and once in GX.

Jason Krueger and lost both times

@@Deathmare235 Still, it was a beaut.

Iron chains

Yubel He used her twice but still Just 13 years

@Mister Perfection mostly thanks to payne

@Mister Perfection It's because of him and we accept no other answer

@Mister Perfection it's because of you, because you are perfect lmaoooooo

@Mister Perfection he must have hurt you in a past life because you seem to harbour an unreal amount of vitriol towards him every time he comments or is even mentioned, while the rest of us stan him.

@Mister Perfection If lord dio tells a joke,it is funny

I loved using Machine Duplication in my geargia karakuri otk deck

@@KenjiAsakura09 They should import OCG exclusive normal monsters.

Machine duplication can add 2 cards from your deck to your hand by cloning deskbot 002, as long as their in the deskbot archetype

Machine Duplication allows for pretty decent combos, if its target can copy names of other monsters (bonus points if it's a tuner).

@@xCorvus7x I.e Cyber dragons

Yeah man, he appeared in so many card artworks Its a no brainer

inb4 they accidentally make a really good searcher for skill drain and the archetype just becomes a complete menace

it would be a cool card for something like "This card effects cannot be negated"

They should make a Lair of Darkness retrain version of him

Yeah instead the only support he gets is getting his skill drained in every other deck :(

With a set name like that you would think any good pyro support would be in it

Day 1 waiting with you

Oh yeah you are here!

@@duelistemissary7680 if this support is at least on "Flamvell Lady" level, u can count it as a good support

Really hoping volcanics gets some support soon

This sounds pretty cool. Must be XYZ summoned using Suijin, Kazejin, and Sanga of the Thunder. Each time this card would be destroyed by battle or card effect, remove on XYZ material from this card.

Matthew Fera That is an awful summon condition lol. Requiring 3 level 7 normal monsters with specific names is the best way to make sure that a card will never hit the field.

I'd rather make it a fusion monster with a contact type summon

Could see gate guardian retain as either a fusion or contact fusion. Maybe retain the other three pieces as well

@@Killermudkip1 I know it is, I just meant as far as matching up with the anime summoning of it. Never meant that it would be good.

Yeah just what an attention seeking clown needs more attention lol...

@@wyomingptt Because keeping a joke that people still enjoy going is definitely attention seeking

i really dont get how much hate payne gets for just making a joke lol its not like he mirdered your familiy, just calm the fck down.

Worth mentioning, but for all the wrong reasons.

@Mister Perfection stfu

shut up mokuba

THUNDER DRAGONS DOSENT GET SUPPORT ??????

@@KudoShinichii1412 he means the time Mokuba and Gramps turn into cards by Pegasus, besides everyone know Mokuba uses hungry burger

Mokuba has Kaiba Corp supporting him what more do you want?!?

@@wyomingptt what is riches compared to the lack of brotherly love?

Lmao frs. I’m still waiting for them volcanic support!!

I mean, realistically they shouldn't even be on this list. I gets its a meme (an annoying one at that) but really there are more archetypes in this game that are more useless/get less support than Volcanics. You know until last year it took over a decade for Cloudians to get one card? Just one. Remember Guardians? That archetype with like one okay monster and a banned spell thats only there for loops? What else have they gotten/what can they even do in todays metagame, let alone 10 years ago's metagame. Volcanics dont need it as bad really...

@@SpadexClover I think that this list is mostly for decks with decent gimicks, or which could be built into a good deck with some better support? I dont know for sure though thats just my interpretation.

Congratulations Gate guardians has at long last received long overdue support cards

@@hattanalshutaifi4587 still waiting on venom support :(

100% agreed

You know gate guardian counts for that archetype, at least according to duel links

@@anemodude9544 yes,the searcher of Guardians searches any monster/spell and trap card that named "Guardian" so if any card that has Guardian in their first name, they're in Guardian archetype. Same as roid archetype

@@13thKingMu Roids and speedroids could have had so much potential going into fusions that require synchros or synchros that require fusions. Meaning that they could've been really strong by chance. Like Dimension Dragons having Synchro/Pendulum, Fusion/Pendulum or XYZ/Pendulums.

I just want Horus to shine. Considering the stuff people can do nowadays, is being able negate as many spells as you want for free really that overpowered?

@@melvinshine9841 Y E S, To many archetypes rely on their spells (invoked, fusion decks in general, etc.)

Just adding 1 lv up and 1 level down quick play spell card that allow you to summon the next lv up or the lower level. Another card should be a trap card allow you to summon a lv monster ignoring summon conditions but with no effect. A field card call missing level, that once per turn you can recycle a lv card.

@@melvinshine9841 Man how I miss Horus

@@melvinshine9841 Yes please, Horus was the very first deck I built way back in the day. Would love to be able to play him again.

I just want to know why master monk is rock type

You know, that would actually fix the problem, since we're in the Links era, and Links don't go into defense ever! Maybe a new Field Spell, or a Link Spider of their own with kind of effect.

Knowing the amount of search available to insect type monsters and the fact that some of their effects are pretty neat against defense position monsters, I think that this little twist might make them a viable rogue deck, add just a little bit more support to take advantage of that and you have something very decent

@@Fawlker maybe a graveyard effect that treats all your opponents face-up monsters as defense position, kinda like Helpophmer card.

Okay so I went back to this video randomly and seeing this comment thread made me want to create some Spider support myself so here it is : -Spider Den (Field Spell) : All face-up monsters on the field are treated as being in face-up Defense position. Once per turn, if one of your "Spider" monsters would be destroyed by card effect, you can target one face-up Defense position monster on the field, destroy that target instead. Once while this card is up, you can special summon 1 "Spider" monster from your deck or GY in Defense position but it's effects are negated. - Vanguard Spider (Level 4 Insect, 1000 ATK 1700 Def) : If you control an insect type monster, you can special summon this card in Defense position from your hand or GY and if you do, change an opponent's monster to face-up Defense position. You can only summon "Vanguard Spider" once per turn with this effect - Funnelweb Spider (Level 4 Insect. 1500 Atk/1500 Def) If this card is normal summoned, you can add one Insect type monster from your deck to your hand. If this card battles an opponent's Defense position monster you can (before damage calculation) take control of this monster until the end phase, but it's effects are negated - Hacker Spider (Level 4 Insect, 1300 ATK 1600 DEF). Once per turn, during either player's turn, you can change all of you opponent's monsters to face-up Defense position and if you do, your opponent cannot activate the effect of their Defense position monsters until the end of the current Phase, you then send one Insect type monster from your field to the GY - Skull Spider (Insect XYZ, Rank 4 2000 ATK 2400 DEF) 2 level 4 Insect monsters. Once per turn, you can attach one face-up Defense position monster to this card as XYZ material. Once per turn, you can detach two materials from this card (Quick Effect) : destroy one face-up Defense position monster your opponent controls. If this card battles a Defense position monster, it inflicts piercing battle damage I might or might not do more one day, but I found the exercise to be rather satisfying

@@sephikong8323 I really like your ideas

Wolvie why the long face?

Good news: the ancient guardian set bring good support for reptiles

I wish duel links would release Professor Viper as a character, and give him Venom Burn as a skin...

There is already a gearfried deck, it's called infernoble knights.

@@Zincoshine- Nah Immortal Phoenix Gearfried just works well with it (As equip cards deck) but it's not his deck, it's only just Immortal Phoenix alone anyway so you can't call that a Gearfried deck. Gearfried got quite a numbers of support but can't say they can be the centric for a deck, also yeah Flame Swordsman barely get anything, I don't even understand why Konami made him a Fusion monster than his Normal monster in the original source (Manga and Anime) in the first place.

I feel like one or the other would be ok, not both, but yes, definitely make the venom archetype more of a stun/grind deck, and it would be really funny because I think the “venom” archetype could actually be used to bring out the “venom dragon” monsters natively, plus super poly, so that’s a pretty decent boss monster/super poly target right there

How about as a XYZ Monster

@@TheBrickBasher1996 I'm all for the Spork being an XYZ. Make the Fusion Monster a butcher's knife!

Maliceverous Napkin 😭

@@lamarpray5324 Perfect. I always felt that maliceverous would be an archetype with a field spell

@@nibirutheprimalbeing3765 I'm late but if they had a field spell it should be Maliceverous Tablecloth. Napkin should be a quick play spell or something imo

boy are you in luck

Yeah, they are union before unions wrre cool

Gate Guardian should be a fusion monster with that effect that require banishing the materials from the field. Wall Shadow should also be a fusion monster summoned with Labyrinth Wall and the equip card, or fusing with Shadow Ghoul and gaining it’s effect.

Technically the first XYZ too, i mean -They are basically 3 monsters stack on each other -The Gate Guardian gains the effects of the materials like Zoodiacs do. -If the monster would be destroyed it only detaches one of it's materials.

@@Slayerthecrow Also they're all level 7.

@@MilenAnessar If they ever make support for the archetype it should be XYZ focused and they could also rename it as Labyrinth, I mean, Labyrinth tank and Wall Shadow are also level 7 and Labyrinth Wall and Shadow ghoul are level 5 both, these are iconic Paradox Brothers cards too.

If Red Eyes hadn't become Joey's signature card, we definitely would have a Flame Swordsman archtype.

Well he does hold Salamandra, and I think that's where Salamangreats came from so half credit lol

Was just gonna post this lol And Skyblaster, only two cards

Butterspies too

at least he mentioned lajinn, we technicly only have 2 cards of em too

What about morphotronics, who got 2 additional cards total after 5Ds

At least they are archetypes unlike stuff like Spiders and Gate Guardian

Your archetype is bad and you should feel bad!

Next year reptiles Will be metà!

In the old yugioh DS , i was playing a variant with venominaga/alien and that was working pretty well.

YES!

@@sinjoh53 That sounds super interesting.

I am :)

@@payne9682 hey, there you are :)

@@payne9682 I'm glad 👍

He is

@Mister Perfection for what? Spam? That's the closest thing it can be considered and it's hardly that since it's not some type of bot.

Same with Wall Shadow (it should have Shadow Ghoul’s effect),

It has a anime suport in gx

A contact fusion but also uses grave like abc buster and floats into gate guardian like neos kluger floats into neos wiseman...and banishes itself (fusion monster) to tag out gate guardian into 3 of its pieces. Thats the only way i can see it even playable

Isn’t that kind of subjective ? (Talking bout' the second suggestion)

i more like see, a good field for the archtype, and a good boss monster, because the 2 best bosses are ovrrlord and cosmic fortress, goods effects but 2200 and 2500 so thats bit weak

@@changeling6450 Isn't fortress 2600 atk? I feel for a level five easy to bring out synchro that's pretty ok.

Which one?

Clear wing synchro?

Actually he means Clear World, which is a very interesting archetype in the anime. Monster "Clear" do not have attributes while they are on the field.

There's the Shocktrooper Link retrain from a while back.

@@VexDylan Reptile is almost Pyro but with more alternatives and support for deck building. What I think is sad because I also like monsters of the Reptile Type.

Iron Chain Dragon wasn't a go-to for generic Level 6 Synchros since slowly milling your opponent could actually help them get closer to their win condition (Graveyards were slowly becoming a second hand for players) and there were more than 1 options that had more than 2500 ATK or better effects for Level 6 Synchros. It could've been a decent deck if they actually put in work to build the Iron Chain archetype properly.

@@ShiningJudgment666 It wasn't to shabby at first, but Goyo Guardian completely overshadowed all previous generic level 6 Synchros when it came out.

@@pokyhoky1234 Goyo was leagues above any other generic Level 6 at the time and even when it got hit, Brionac wasn't too far behind in coming to the TCG (though it too got hit), Gaia Knight's slightly higher ATK was actually worth justifying a spot over Iron Chain Dragon (though Iron Chain was the only generic Level 6 Dragon so it had a niche in Debris Dragon decks for 1-card Synchro Summons so it had that going for it) and Flamvell Uruquizas had piercing damage and stacked its ATK.

Norden

Malicevorous Spork has to be a fusion! :D ...and a Malicevorous Dinner Table as a field spell, love the idea of the archetype

Swordstalker, Judgeman, Saggy (Clow Cards), Virus (monsters, not traps), Gem Dragons (Hyozanryu, Diamond Dragon/Luster Dragon # 2, Sapphire Dragon/Luster Dragon, Alexandrite Dragon).

I'd love a genie archetype. MTG has done quite a bit with its genies, some of them grant "wishes" (i.e. search any card you want)

chusucc

And then they proceeded to make an entire archetype revolved around said card. Granted, the new snakes aren't that amazing and aren't gonna make Reptiles meta in any way, but it's funny how Konami are willing to experiment with cards that everyone knows would snap the game in half if something extremely good would appear that can abuse them.

Yeah, the only (if remember correctly?) Atem's loss in the series and the archetype is pretty much useless in RL. It would sadly need a really broken over the top support to work, especially something that would ignore summoning conditions :/

@@ultimatepandaboy He technically lost when Yugi forced him to surrender to Kaiba in Duelist Kingdom and then he lost the final match against Yugi. Haven't watched any of the films so in the show he loses 2/3 times depending on how you count the Kaiba one

that's a neat idea, having different lamps to support them and special summon them, maybe different lamps for different fusion monsters?

𝘐𝘧 𝘬𝘢𝘻𝘶𝘬𝘪 𝘛𝘢𝘬𝘢𝘩𝘢𝘴𝘩𝘪 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘴 𝘢 𝘨𝘰𝘰𝘥 𝘢𝘳𝘤𝘩𝘵𝘺𝘱𝘦 𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘈 𝘮𝘪𝘥𝘥𝘭𝘦 𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘵 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘛𝘰 𝘳𝘪𝘷𝘢𝘭 𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘳 𝘰𝘯 𝘺𝘶𝘨𝘪𝘰𝘩 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘢𝘨𝘰𝘯𝘪𝘴𝘵 𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘢 𝘭𝘢 𝘫𝘪𝘯𝘯𝘴 𝘢𝘳𝘤𝘩𝘵𝘺𝘱𝘦

Volcanics were in the GX era, and was used by a PROtagonist who had a decent role in season 3 and an interesting support role in season 4.

Nobody in the anime used Master Monk.

The main antagonist in GX season 3 part 1 used the Venom deck but Konami probably was afraid to make it too powerful that it would have overshadowed Yubel which was the final villain in the second half.

Oh Matthew, so incorrect.

Volcanics were used by a character who technically beat the main protagonist twice.

Rereleased.

level 7 or 8 would be #1

Only one level would be out, and it would be 11

9 would be in the top spots literally just for Trishula. And maaaaybe Mist Wurm.

Level 1 synchros hella underrated

@@jacobbaker1469 and level 0

You could detach a material to search any card and put it on top of your deck. That would be the "wish"

honestly Digital Bugs is basically a Spider xyz subtype, one of my favorites despite not being very good

Good point, though to be fair, unlike Kaiju's, Lava Golem requires tributing TWO of your opponent's monsters

Well, the recent vote at Konami indicates that they should be getting some soon

Didn’t they *technically* get that Trishula Fusion Monster? I know that it and the Synchro Trishula literally don’t support Ice Barriers at all, but I mean still

@@M3G4T3RR4 Not really, Fusion Trish isn't an Ice Barrier Monster.

Also they already have like a million cards. They’re just not good.

*Cries in Ally of Justice*

yeah, love Spiders and DigiBugs but link monsters made it even harder for them to be played, maybe a spell that would treat links as defence position monsters when used for insect type monster effects would help, idk

Seems like an easy fix, just have any monster that can't be put into defense position be destroyed instead

Snake Rain exists so it wouldn't take much.

Invoked Raidjin, People looking at him for the first time EVER without looking at the attribute might think he's LIGHT because of the Thunder in his artwork

@@Yami_Duelist i mean thunders are asociated with storms... so wind is not far fetched, or actually water would have worked cause rain and storm

Rokket

The Ritual Beast Ulti- cards are examples of this, Ulti-Apelio is literally shown lighting things on fire yet it is a Wind attribute card, Ulti-Pettlephin is shown diving out of the water yet it is a Wind attribute again.

@@etaleo2748 how about crystrons? Water AND machines? So difficult to believe

Really hoping Venoms get support one day. I love what they did with Gate Guardian. Would love to see them fix Venoms.

@alphawolf7417 venoms need support so badly they have a really solid foundation with the venom counters and a lot of their support cards are legit really good even today the problem is that they just don't have enough support to be viable if they just get some more I could see them being a solid deck especially if they manage to get some support cards that bring venominaga out easily

@Martiancookiehunter365 yeah. I get the Venoms weren't used by a super popular character, and they kinda just suck IRL, and they have barely any cards, but still. If Yubel, who only had like 5 cards in her archetype, and Gate Guardians who only had 4, could get entirely functional modern support, then so should Venom. Also, I don't get what Duel Log means when he says they might be too powerful. We're in an era where summoning a single Snake-Eyes Ash basically gives you an unbeatable board.

The video is 2 years old tho, so i like to believe that greedy konami listened and actually printed support.

He’s already done that “Top 10 cards too good for their own Archetype”

Actually, the recent Sacred Beast support also supports her a bit.

People actually care for her?

@@kingkozy9987 Yes, there's fanart of her. People obviously care for a main villain character in a popular anime

@@CrimsonTy nah the darkness was the main villain which didnt get his cards in real life for some reason

Fire puppies literally how

He already did a video about volcanic custom cards

@@DarkSymphony777 he sure did but I bet he'll get a ton more custom cards after this video.