Top 10 "Closed" Drafting Games
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As voted on by the Patreons, these are my ten favourite games that use specifically the "closed" drafting mechanic..........and surprisingly...........this was hard to find 10 great ones. . . . .
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Opening and KIENDA Promo
01:01 - Introduction
03:50 - #10
06:11 - #9
08:12 - #8
10:33 - #7
15:48 - #6
16:55 - #5
20:00 - #4
23:08 - #3
25:35 - #2
28:26 - #1
32:30 - Honorable Mentions
35:41 - Closing Thoughts
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@stevekingswell9143 6 ай бұрын
Blood Rage is missing, the draft is absolutely key, it happens 3 times in the game and is a fantastic area control game
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Yeah but the rest of the game is standard fare and you hope to deny anyone all the Loki cards. Was never a big fan of it.
@brucebush5744 6 ай бұрын
Ohanami is such a good little game. For a bigger game, I’d suggest Mille Fiori - a recentish Knizia that I think is one of his best.
@TH-wq2ge 6 ай бұрын
I feel Mille Fiori precisely doesn’t make great use of the closed drafting. It works ok and keeps the game flowing, but i find the tension that comes from closed drafting much stronger in other games.
@obiteljskitablet9995 6 ай бұрын
Ohanami is fantastc little game. Elastic band is a required accessory for this game!
@bushibayushi 6 ай бұрын
If I were to pick a few of my favourites: 1. 7 Wonders (second edition) - what a surprise 2. Key Flow (it's really wonderful) 3. Ginkgopolis 4. Bunny Kingdom 5. Greed 6. Inis
@chrispriscott 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic list, especially as I'm a huge fan of closed drafting games and now I've got a bunch extra to check out. Great to see Zuuli get an honourable mention too 🥳
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@mikecooper673 6 ай бұрын
Was going to mention Zuuli!
@rolling.reggie 6 ай бұрын
Surprised that It’s a Wonderful World didn’t make the list, definitely my number one and also one of my favorite engine builders!! Glad Bunny Kingdom at least got an HM. Some great ones for me to try on here though - Citadels and Ohanami especially.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
I just found World dull and uninspired
@nicolehage918 6 ай бұрын
I love closed drafting games! My favorites are: 1. Paper Tales (also a great solo with the Beyond the gates expansion) 2. It’s a wonderful world 3. Come sail away! 4. Medieval Academy 5. Tyborg the Builder 6. Nimalia 7. Ecosystem (Savanna, but the other 2 are also great) 8. TM Mars 9. Ohanami 10. Trailblazers honorable mentions: WitchDraft, Zuuli, The Great split, Key flow, Ginkgopolis, Sushi go, Draftosaurus, Beer & Bread, Mille Fiori, Capital Lux 2, Bunny Kingdom
@nicolehage918 6 ай бұрын
I forgot Christmas Tree! That one is great, too. I got Neom a few days ago and still need to play it. I didn’t care for 7 wonders (gasp!) and Machiavelli
@tonycork2pa469 6 ай бұрын
"Tides of Time" is another great closed draft game (only 18-card deck). Like Brian Boru, "Claim" & "Claim 2" are another trick taking/card drafting blend. I consider it semi open/semi closed draft as there is one card on offer in each round and the two players will play high or low to a trick depending on whether they want to win the card on offer or not (high wins, low gets a blind deck draw). Luke, finally - oh boy - as I'm Irish, it's somewhat humourous to hear non-Irish botch the pronounciation of Boru - it's not "burrough" but "buh-rew" - try it, it's really not that difficult ! :) Glad to see you got your Facebook back - am interested to know that after it was "lost", how it was "found" without a rebuild of the old file (if that's the case).
@MrJmarzetti 6 ай бұрын
Ohanami was one of the first card games I got getting into the hobby and was so impressed how simple yet fun it is. Another interesting drafting game is It's a Wonderful World. I personally have the 2 player version which does the beginning a I split you choose opening round, but I have played it with a draft, taking out the negative event cards, and it works great.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
No I found that one meh, hence the quick two second joke later in the video.
@bryanstarke1313 6 ай бұрын
Good list! One of our favorate holiday games is actually a closed drafting game: Christmas Tree (2017). Diamond shaped cards are a bit of a pain to shuffle, but a charming look and lots on good little decisions more than make up for it. Not sure how widely available it is, though.
@nicolehage918 6 ай бұрын
I agree. Christmas tree is great!
@MuunkeyBrains 6 ай бұрын
You are not the only one who really likes Brian Boro. Top 10 game for me. But I love trick taking and drafting games, combining them in this game was excellent.
@andrethannhauser6302 6 ай бұрын
I reeeally like that mechanism because it enables simultaneous play which enables higher player counts with almost the same play time. I wish there were as many closed drafting games as there are worker placement games. That would be a brilliant choice. ;-)
@obiteljskitablet9995 6 ай бұрын
My top 5: 5. It's a Wonderful World 4. Citadels 3. Blood Rage 2. Ohanami 1. 7 Wonders
@ten_oclock_scholar4690 6 ай бұрын
For me it would be Isle of Cats, Paper Tales, Bunny Kingdom, and Caper: Europe. Paper Tales doesn't get a lot of love because there are only four rounds, which means that the game ends before you can really get a points engine going, but the decaying mechanism is neat. I really enjoy it.
@gailwondowski3207 6 ай бұрын
I wish Zuuli would come to the US!
@chrispriscott 6 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed I'll have good news to share on this front soon 🤞🏻
@TH-wq2ge 6 ай бұрын
„Closed drafting“ -> Good theme for a list. Totally agree, there are not so many good ones.
@mm-si3qi 6 ай бұрын
2 games I would consider. First one Ecosystem Savanna by genius games. The theme is you are creating an ecosystem, this case an African ecosystem, specifically the grasslands of Africa. Each card you can draft scores by being next to other appropriate cards. So, a zebra wants to be next to grasslands. Giraffes next to trees. Elephants don’t want to be around other animals except other elephants or landscapes, like watering holes, trees or grasslands. What you are doing is drafting one card at a time, and building a 5x4 grid, or 4x5 grid by placing one card at a time. You have two rounds of drafting, and are drafting ten cards each round. Only rule of placing a card is that it has to be next to another card already placed. Only time that rules is ignored is the first round as you have no cards yet. Highest score wins. Would not recommend ecosystem. The scoring is boring and not much replay-ability. Ecosystem coral reef is better than ecosystem, but still has some end scoring that holds it back as my favorite. But definitely the best version, my opinion, is ecosystem Savanna. It definitely shines at certain play counts, as the game does not scale with more players. You want 4 or 5 players, in my opinion. The complexity is more than sushi go, and maybe slightly less than ohnami. The scoring is not as clean though as the other two. But it gives me the complexity I want, and I like bunny kingdom. You already know how that scores. Nowhere near as complex as that, but it isn’t sushi go fast. The second game is come sail away by saashi & saashi.Theme is getting passengers into a cruise ship by following placement rules outlined in the rules. Definitely more brain burner than most of if not all the games here. But the decision making is definitely worth the effort.
@mm-si3qi 6 ай бұрын
Edit. Just looked up the rules. Only 4x5 grid. I have been house ruling that for awhile now, and I highly recommend this house rule.
@roberthultsten 6 ай бұрын
The first one that comes to mind that I am missing is Ecosystem. I would also like to see Mille Fiori and Draftosaurus getting mentioned. I like Planted but that is not really available in Europe so perhaps better left out.
@foyoGames 6 ай бұрын
Mille Fiori is drafting?
@roberthultsten 6 ай бұрын
@@foyoGames From the BGG description:At the start of a round, each player receives a hand of five cards. Each player chooses a card from hand, then passes the remaining cards to the next player, then each player plays their card in turn, beginning with the round's start player and typically placing a diamond-shaped token of their color in the location depicted on that card
@foyoGames 6 ай бұрын
@@roberthultsten ah, I only played once ...great game ...musta forgetten the draft element ...thx Ok ...vaguely recalling it now
@NePosas 6 ай бұрын
I was waiting for Brian Boru. It's the only game from the list I have :)
@JonoNZBoardGamer 6 ай бұрын
One game that gets overlooked is Steampunk Rally. There is a draft of 4 cards every round that is critical to set you up for the engine building and race portion of the game. Have you played it? I have never heard you mention it, I thoroughly enjoy it! Another game that could be considered is Between to cities/castles which has a fun closed tile drafting mechanic that is basically the entire game besides the tile laying puzzle with what you draft. Great list otherwise, Beer and Bread is certainly a good one for this list IMO
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Steampunk Rally drags on way too long, what should be a speedy racer takes forever with a decent amount of downtime.
@henryjoconnell 6 ай бұрын
The Ecosystem line of games is one of my favourites
@cristiarh 6 ай бұрын
My top 3 would be (in alphabetical order): 7 Wonders, Bunny Kingdom and Key Flow. You should try Key Flow. It works quite well even in 2 player games.
@JohnClem56 6 ай бұрын
Definitely think Blood Rage should be on the list. I'd also rank Terraforming Mars and Inis higher than you have them. I'd probably have Inis at the top of my list. Really love the tension of the draft in that one. Also, I don't think TM is too long with 4 but totally agree that you have to play with drafting and Prelude and no more than one other expansion. In fact, we almost never play with any expansion other than Prelude. I find it interesting that I haven't played many of these games since I think closed drafting is a very good mechanism. Beast is another one you could have considered. We were looking forward to the drafting aspect of it but found the game overall was very hit and miss for us.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Beast was way too fiddly and long for what it was and it doesn't even fit the description of a hidden movement game barely.
@JohnClem56 6 ай бұрын
@@TheBrokenMeeple Agreed. All the pieces seem to be there to make it a good game but they just didn't come together in a way that worked for us.
@MrJankTv 6 ай бұрын
1. 7 Wonders 2. Bunny Kingdoms 3. It’s a Wonderful World 4. Draftasaurus 5. Isle of Cats
@magnusjakobsson7424 6 ай бұрын
Isle of Cats, It's a Wonderful World and Caper: Europe are my favourites!
@JosephFlemming 6 ай бұрын
Ohanami is fantastic… vying for the Keltis/Lost Cities games in that number chain genre
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Much rather play Ohanami but I do like Lost Cities.
@JosephFlemming 6 ай бұрын
Neon is good fun and wish it had an expansion!
@TH-wq2ge 6 ай бұрын
One more. This is a microgame, but it also makes very good use of closed drafting: Tides of Madness
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
I considered it but it doesn't have much replay value.
@natrc4593 6 ай бұрын
7 Wonders would also be my number 1. Have you tried Mille Fiori and Nimalia? Those two are also fun games with closed drafting.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
No I haven't, they didn't look like much to me at first sight.
@CloudBuilderMetba 6 ай бұрын
If you ever had the time, I’d love from you a best of 5-player games and 6-player games, since you are probably the reviewer there gets the most annoyed when games have bad player scaling.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
I think it wasn't that long ago I did a five player list. And six players you might as well play a party game or racing game.
@danijelposta1748 6 ай бұрын
Caper Europe for sure. For me it's the ultimate 2p drafting game and the production is fantastic.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
I still have Caper on my shelf unplayed but I want to try it. But isn't Caper an open drafting game?
@danijelposta1748 6 ай бұрын
@@TheBrokenMeeple Don't know about Caper, I haven't played it but Caper Europe is definitely a closed drafting game.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
@@danijelposta1748 they must have changed it then. I really must try those games.
@danijelposta1748 6 ай бұрын
@@TheBrokenMeeple Board Game Arena has a great implementation of Caper Europe.
@TH-wq2ge 6 ай бұрын
Closed drafting, definitely, try try try its one of the top 2-Player games for many many people not without a reason.
@brdanner 6 ай бұрын
Fairy Tale is a solid drafting game, not talked about much, anymore…
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
No, it's fine but too many fiddly parts to it, 7 Wonders and Sushi Go did it better.
@TH-wq2ge 6 ай бұрын
Fairy Tale makes very good use of closed drafting. Should be talked about much more.
@spfortier 6 ай бұрын
How about The Isle of Cats? Would you consider that more of a setup draft even though it's done every round? It would probably be near the top of my list if it qualified. If not, Beer & Bread would be up there. I've never played 7 Wonders, so that might be up there once I play it. I tried 7 Wonders Duel with my wife, but she wasn't a fan. I didn't mind it though. Most of our games are two players, so I'm not sure how often we would get around to playing 7 Wonders.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Short list, but not top ten. I prefer that game solo which doesn't use draft.
@JosephFlemming 6 ай бұрын
Isle of Cats and Bunny Kingdom are AMAZING games with drafting.
@TH-wq2ge 6 ай бұрын
7 Wonders Duel is open drafting, even though a part of the cards are flipped face down.
@spfortier 6 ай бұрын
@@TH-wq2ge Yea. I only mentioned it because it was the only version of 7 Wonders I have played. I'm interested in trying the original one, but I'm not sure when I would get a 3 player game to the table.
@andrethannhauser6302 6 ай бұрын
I think you don't acknowledge why so many people love Terraforming Mars at 3-4 while they love Arc Nova especially at 2. It's the interaction that matters at Terraforming Mars. It's not only the closed drafting (which is brilliant but honestly not even part of the basic rules), but it's the board. It matters A LOT what is going on on the map because you can make a lot of points with cities and green areas and you need a very good timing to prevent other players from taking your "prepared" spots. And the different boards matter because they come with different milestones and challenges which again can define a part of your strategy. Terrafoming Mars is my #2 of all time. Nevertheless I find it interesting that it's even on your list because the drafting is only a small part of the game and no main mechanism. Though, I appreciate that you have it on your list because indeed the drafting is one of the most enjoyable part of the game. I would even say that the drafting is more interesting/interactive than in most other drafting games BECAUSE the game is designed so that you hardly ever buy all cards that you choose because you dont have the money. So from my experience, the "hate drafting" aspect is one of the highest of all drafting games, because it makes approx. 25-50% of the drafting. That is quite unique and in a lot of drafting games it's not even possible to do effectively because you play EVERY card you choose.
@judgemario 6 ай бұрын
Boomerang is a good closed drafting game. It’s just a filler, but a fun one.
@TH-wq2ge 6 ай бұрын
Another one I would add here is Caper or Caper Europe. Very good pure closed drafting game.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Caper i think is open drafting but I don't know about Europe, not played either yet.
@mikecooper673 6 ай бұрын
Between 2 cities is another good drafting game I enjoy.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Bounced off that one, too much dictated by your partner.
@andrethannhauser6302 6 ай бұрын
These are all closed drafting games I have played so far sorted by my ranking in my all time list. When it comes to only considering the actual drafting, 7 Wonders is the king. Terraforming Mars 9.25 7 Wonders 8.75 Neom 7.75 It's a Wonderful World 7.5 Brian Boru 7.5 Isle of Cats 7.5 Sushi Go Party 7.0 Ohanami 6.5 Citadels 6.5 Caper: Europe 6.5 Draftosaurus 6.0
@moo2k4 6 ай бұрын
51st State has some drafting at the beginning of rounds, but I don't know if that would have met the criteria for your list since it's not necessarily THE most important part of that game.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
It might do but it's not the big part of the game I guess.
@andrethannhauser6302 6 ай бұрын
No it's open drafting.
@moo2k4 6 ай бұрын
@@andrethannhauser6302 fair enough! I don’t know that I quite understand the difference, admittedly 😂
@bullfrog417 6 ай бұрын
Big fan of Tides of Madness
@rudyjansen4242 6 ай бұрын
Sure 7 Wonders deserves the #1 spot (no doubt), but I would add Blood rage and Tides of madness to my closed drafting top 10.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Wasn't a blood rage fan, I did consider tides but I think it's ok, has limited scope for me.
@PestiferousJoe 6 ай бұрын
7 Wonders IS an evergreen game.
@JosephFlemming 6 ай бұрын
Interesting… my Sushi go Party has a nice insert for the cards
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
The insert I found didn't work too well for sleeved cards
@simplybs9311 6 ай бұрын
I know you are not a big fan but imma have to say Blood Rage.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Yeah not a big fan 😜
@FrancoisLandryCorbin 6 ай бұрын
Fields of Green is superior to Among the Stars IMO and would be in my Top5 closed drafting games. But my number 1 spot would also be 7 Wonders.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
I tried Fields, it's kind of on par but they're practically the same.
@christaggart5687 6 ай бұрын
It’s a Wonderful World replaces 7 wonders for me…. But.. they are honestly both great. Love the joke on it btw. Made me laugh
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Trying to find that joke again for someone else, where was it? 😜
@christaggart5687 6 ай бұрын
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@stevekingswell9143 6 ай бұрын
Moon, 2 player would creep into my top 10, but I guess it falls into you definition of open drafting
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Yeah it's not closed.
@peterevensen 6 ай бұрын
Have you played Capital Lux 2: Generations?
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Don't think so.
@TH-wq2ge 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic game, but not closed drafting. Not even a drafting game, is it?
@obiteljskitablet9995 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic game! You should try it.
@peterevensen 6 ай бұрын
@@TH-wq2geI’m not sure what you mean. It is closed drafting. You get 6 cards, keep 2 pass the rest to the left, keep two for the 4 you received and then pass the remaining to and get the 2 from the person on your right.
@peterevensen 6 ай бұрын
@@TheBrokenMeeplecool closed drafting game with modular powers. There is even an app with AI.
@keith2570 6 ай бұрын
It's a Wonderful World?
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
He he watch the 7 Wonders segment closely.....
@keith2570 6 ай бұрын
@@TheBrokenMeeple Listen again. Didn't catch it. I'm assuming you don't care for it or omitted it for some reason. It's my #1
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
@@keith2570 I thought there was a joke clip, about a couple seconds where I mention wonderful world. But I admit, I'm struggling to find it as well, it's a blink and you miss it gag. I found it a meh game over all.
@keith2570 6 ай бұрын
@@TheBrokenMeeple In your opinion, Sushi Go is better than It's a Wonderful World? Yikes! (We need one of your clip inserts here).
@guandjs 6 ай бұрын
Wonderful World really is wonderful! He hated Scout too….so we know he is not infallible! 😅
@SolviKaaber 6 ай бұрын
Closed drafting is one of my favorite mechanisms, wish there were more of them. Honorable mention to MTG drafts. My top 10 is: 1. Brian Boru 2. Terraforming Mars 3. Biblios 4. Inis 5. Ohanami 6. Tides of Time/Madness 7. 7 Wonders 8. Draftosaurus 9. Sushi Go 10. Citadels My top 4 games are so good in my opinion they're in my top 20 games of all time.
@TH-wq2ge 6 ай бұрын
For me Tybor and Caper are definitely higher than Ohanami and Sushi Go, with Tybor on top of Caper. Tybor is in my top thirty. Caper top fourty. Ohanami and Sushi Go, just fall out of my top one hundred.
@elainetyger 6 ай бұрын
The bigger board of bunny kingdom is the absolute best. At least it made an honorable mention for you. It is one of my favorite games. I like the way the board looks with all the bunnies covering it by the end. I don't mind the scoring. It actually doesn't take very long until the third round. If you play on board game arena, problem solved, but I don't find it a problem. If a parchment asks for how many carrots I grew or how many mountains I have, I don't try to count those on the board, I put those cards at the bottom of my discard pile grouped together. On the other hand, I do like your number one game and I do have it, and I would bring it out more if the set up wasn't such a bear. You have to change cards in and out depending on the player number, so you have to store them in order which means that whoever helped you take it down at the end of the game was paying attention, or you have to do all that when you set up. While I agree that the thing you might compare it to is meh, I found the graphic about it before the 29 minute mark to be offensive.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
It shouldn't be, it doesn't affect others opinions of it. It's to stave off the inevitable cries of where is it? 😏
@elainetyger 6 ай бұрын
@@TheBrokenMeeple specifically saying "blow me"? Was that really necessary? You don't know other words that don't denigrate and publicize a private sexual activity?
@a-c-m 6 ай бұрын
I am sure that „Caper: Europe“ would have ended up in your top 3 if you had played it ! (Forget the original “Caper”, go straight to “Caper: Europe”)
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Caper is still on my unplayed shelf of shame 😜
@a-c-m 6 ай бұрын
Put it straight into the sell bucket and buy Caper: Europe instead. Much better game and you don’t need both…
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
@@a-c-m that can be arranged 😜
@nirszi 6 ай бұрын
Gosh, you cannot make me play Citadels again with gun point. A game where you can be forced to skip your turn should not exists.
@SenseiJae 6 ай бұрын
Blood rage?
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Nah, mediocre and you have the Loki issue.
@SenseiJae 6 ай бұрын
@@TheBrokenMeeple i really want to reply with “shiny and chrome, witness it!”
@jacobjslee 6 ай бұрын
If you have Neom on here then you should consider Warsaw: City of Ruins. It is the superior city building game with closed drafting. Probably my favourite city building game. Have you played it?
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
No, is that the small box game with the dreadful cover? Guess that doesn't narrow it down.
@jacobjslee 6 ай бұрын
@TheBrokenMeeple No, not small box. Same size square box as Apiary. I would bet good money you'd like Warsaw. I didn't play Neom again after playing Warsaw.
@andyneads5159 6 ай бұрын
It’s called Capital in Europe. And I agree, it’s the best city building drafting game. I bought it as a present for someone and got Neom for myself and have regretted it ever since!
@admscotty704 6 ай бұрын
I don't agree with your assessment that there is not a lot of good closed drafting games, on top of your list, here is 10 more. Keyflow, It's a wonderful world, Warsaw City of Ruins, Isle of Cats, Magic the Gathering, Bunny Kingdom, Dungeon Draft, Draftosaurus, Imperial Settlers / 51st state, Subdivision.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Magic is not a drafting game, that's a variant for setup. Keyflow if it's the one I'm thinking of was incredibly fiddly and convuluted. Cats was OK but drags out too long and only play it solo where the drafting isn't a factor. Imperial Sellers and State were replaced by Empires of the North. You're the first person I've heard to even mention Subdivision much less play it.
@jackiethomas325 6 ай бұрын
Isle of Cats would be our top one.
@TheBrokenMeeple 6 ай бұрын
Isle of Cats was on short list but I think it drags on so much in multiplayer so I play it solo and in that you don't draft.
@jackiethomas325 6 ай бұрын
Your right it can drag, but with our family we’ve played it soooooo many times we are quite well slick now and not too bad. Plus with family there’s always lots of laughs and banter so not so bad if it does go a little AP from time to time.
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