Chris Mullins thanks for listing this!

Well done. A slight correction: Shadows OVER Camelot.

You're awesome, thanks!

My favourites are Gloomhaven, Descent, Castle Ravenloft, Azul, Lords of Waterdeep, Star Wars: Rebellion, Mansion of Madness, Twilight Imperium (I like fantasy games)

Chris Mullins thank you! I like theese guys, but i find it kinda boring to watch them for an entire hour.

Looks like playing pandemic didn't help...

@@johnroney32 Pandemic is a shit game. I don't get why so many people like it

@@Digger-Nick ur acting like a piece of poo right now.....

Great idea!

(1-10) Playing cards.

LOVE THIS IDEA

The poor people's game. Coming to you soon......

Still cheaper than my TCGPlayer cart.. >_< (Why did I not find board games sooner? 'xD)

Better lose one $

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@@bobbyduenckel4762 blaze it!

So I'm guessing you have the bloodrage Kickstarter edition on your cart?

Indeed. If you're already "into the hobby" then you're informed enough to know what you like and what you might like.

kiwisoup Your comment nailed it. I watch this channel for run downs on games coming out and the industry, etc. Not to figure out what games I should get for my collection. I do recommend this channel to people interested in taking up the hobby all the time though, so the more "accessible" games they pitch, the better, IMO.

kiwisoup yes indeed. My family is getting into games, and we've started a good game collection. But I watched this video to help me find new, different games for our collection. With games coming in at $30 to $50 each, I appreciate learning about games that make top ten lists.

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But I don’t like splendor…

Eric Finley same here we love it

I also love it eventhough I rarely win 😢

I felt that way about Hive.

absolutely!

Agreed

Yes!!! .....Orrr I'm gonna do a basic video that describes 5 or maybe 10 basic board game's objectives

Yes. I have an adult and two kids. Looking for some new ones

Now 2020

Gijs Van Hemelryck

Yup. I know that feeling!

4 times a day! :')

luiscarlosqg same

Same here! Board games are future of gaming

Give us a 3 year update. What are you playing now?

Is splendor what you call you wee wee?

Niece list, some games I don't kniow yet (well only in the hind spots, never heard of Lords of waterdeep, is it really good?) My top ten for games every gamer should own would probably be: 10. 7 Wonders 9. Ciub (colourful and fun dice game ^^) 8. Villa Paletti/ Menara (who doesn't like a good balancing game?) 7. dixit 6. Pandemic 5. King of Tokyo 4. Carcasonne (lokl we don't own it XD my mum does though and I only play it with her so... it's Ok) 3. Caverna (great Workerplacement) 2. Photosynthesis 1. Terra Mystica/ Gaia Project

@@89taklung If you are a fan of Caverna and TM, you probably won't like LoW that much. It's great as "next step" game, nice worker placement mechanics but nothing really groundbreaking. Also, the theme is kinda there, but after 10 minutes you will simply trade "white and orange cubes" instead of "clerics and warriors". The insert is gorgeus, though.

andrew nemy For a small collection, sounds like you have some solid choices. Cheers.

I do a lot of research before I buy anything since I can't keep many games (space issue/ tight budget). Deception Murder in Hong Kong and Robinson Crusoe 2nd edition are showing up next month.

I wouldn't say it was that bad, I think all lists were ok. The only real miss on the lists was Pandemic Legacy and both Zee and Sam clearly explaned why it's a miss - you don't have to own it if someone from your group owns it and it's just crazy to say it should be owned before Pandemic.

I was thinking of getting Pandemic Legacy because I thought you could play it as regular pandemic before and afterwards. Is this true?

Victoria Danielle Medele Yes you can but ideally you want to play it as regular pandemic at least a dozen times before getting into legacy. Also Pandemic legacy is only one direction to go after regular Pandemic. Also afterwards it won't be the same as before so you might want to play it (better board) or not (all the markings from the campaign are distracting).

ok

7 Wonders is still the go-to game out of the three. I still own all three of them and will own them until the end of time. Huge fan of MA. But only one is truly essential.

I would look at their top 100 games and choose the highest in that list for these categories. The work is done, just have to peek.

Played it only once, and it totally fell flat. Not just for me, but for others at the table as well. It just seemed dull and random, and the rules came across as very basic. It's almost pure fluff. I would be open to try it again, but I didn't really think much of it.

Exactly how I viewed an 'essential list'. not necessarily whats good for new comers to board gaming hobby, but as essential must haves because its 1 outweighs 3-4 others of similarity and game play reach.

Btw came to check and only a day after loading this video and the views are almost to 20k!!! Great job guys!!!

I completely agree with Zee on this one, get anyone who plays video games and they will have no problem understanding Blood Rage.

Funniest comment!

Actually it was made as a social commentary game. Those who have, get more. Those who don't have loose more.

bushibayushi while I don't think this replaces this list, I think it would be a good top 10 in its own right. "Expanding your collection " list maybe?

Seems like a boring copy&paste from BGG tbh.

What's boring about this list? These are just "safe", tried and tested games. No need to be experimental here.

pradafang well ameritrash is more than theme. it's also defined as having a shitload of components and pieces (usually with a large board). Imperial Assault fits that bill to a T

sam made of list a essential games for other people to play,, not a list of essential games that are good.

Someone read to seriously into that :D yet, for Zee it's so easy to stick Pandemic into nearly every list :D

When you have a nearly perfect, super tight, and almost always fun game, why not put it in every list.

Don't know about StarryAqua, but i was only joking. Have no problems with that ;)

That's why i'm wondering why TI3 wasn't there

But should new gamers buy an expensive game right away, when they aren't committed yet to their likes and dislikes or into the hobby?

Well, if you have absolutely no idea what you like, I'd try to play some games before I committed to any games. But we are talking *essential* games here, not gateway games. If you want a game you can play with everyone from hardcore gamers to beginners and have everyone enjoy it, I think Blood Rage is great in its category. Smallworld is fine, but not great.

Thank You! No, I don't own Blood Rage but I've watched many reviews and even copies of it being painted while the artist discussed it and I've always wanted to play it and I agree with Zee. I know if I were entering the hobby I wouldn't want it just assumed that I was allergic to depth. I would either feel A. Underestimated or B. That board gamers were a rather simple lot, which isn't true, you guys have a *lot* of depth and complexity, that's why I'm so confused that many of you don't want that reflected by your interests.

mikejonesnoreally hey! Did you ever get blood rage?

Games that would go on such a list are nearly by definitions games that have a wide appeal and that (very often) means gateway games.

Maybe they could label them as Must own games. That gives me a vibe for fun, unique possibly rich in depth gameplay experiences..

I think there are games that have wide appeal but are not gateways. It is probably just me because I get bored easily with games that require little strategy such as for sale. I was really surprised that Zee put Blood Rage on his list. I have wanted that game for a while now, I should just go pick it up.

If they are not gateway games that by "wide appeal" (I think) you have to mean gamers. So I guess you are thinking of something like Agricola, Power Grid, Descent, etc.

+Moritz Schubert Top 10 Essential Games for Gamers then.

We figure if people can watch multiple feature length two hour movies, they can watch one of these. ;)

You realize that those movies that people watch aren't on shoestring budgets like yours, right? Cut the rants, it'll make your videos better.

Dearest Dice Tower , I really love your videos but can not watch them because they are all 3 minutes too long and I can't waste those precious 3 minutes so shorten your videos for me by 3 minutes each !! Just kidding :)

True, but I agree with Nick. This video is geared towards a person just starting to dip their toe into board gaming (like me), and what we should get/have. I think a little tightening up on the lip flap as well as more cuts to the games and their features would make this more accessible to the casual viewer. This would be a phenomenal 20-30 minute piece if you could tighten it up, instead of a monstrous hour dedication to get a top 10. I love your channel, thank you.

Its not just a top ten , its THREE top tens. And their witty banter is what makes them fun to watch. You guys must have super ADHD if you can't watch an hour long vid from these guys . WOW!

This is a remake.

I agree. My fault though via interpretation. I thought this this was going to be what they felt were *essential* games as in "If you could only own or store 10, *these* would be the ones not to miss." If I had followed this list when I decided to limit my games to 15, (unless something gets "fired", but it looks like Land of Zion and Abyss are going to force me to amend that.) I would have been sorely disappointed with the usefulness of games. Such as in my case I feel that MageKnight and Eldritch Horror (possibly Mansions of Madness as well now.) would be on that list as well as some form of a "chess" like game such as one of Zee's favorites, Neuroshima Hex 3.0. This list almost makes it sounds as if other gamers really don't have the capacity for complexity or depth and feels much more like a list meant to appeal to what they see as the "lowest common denominator." I had no idea they had such a bleak view of people's capacity, *particularly* those showing an interest in games. They made a great point about *where* many new gamers come from. Video games and RPGs that simply don't offer the range of agency that a board game can, and if you get somebody into this hobby who usually gets their kicks in the crucible or by just defining *practically anything* they can think of, then you'd best bring something a bit more challenging to the table than Sherrif of Nottingham or Carcassone!

Do you even watch the video. They explained that these games all have a gateway feel and are for newer gamers.

lol, yea man, I love watching these guys. The first essentials video really did spark my interest in gaming. I understand why they named it what they did, but I was just giving my opinion on what the title should be to match the content of the video. Maybe they will do another video someday called "Top 10 Essential Games for Experienced Gamers." Sorry if my orginal comment seemed "alpha gamerish", just remember we are all gamers here, so have fun gaming! - Ian

+mikejonesnoreally "Video games and RPG's that simply don't offer the range of agency..." Have you ever played Europa Universalis IV?

What does MvM stand for?

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LOL - amazing!

This thread is hilarious all this time later, now that we know the game is bad.

Charlie Simms it's soooo sad I love the games!

They don't like it that much

because catan is as random as Monopoly. It isn't very good. You are at the mercy of the dice the whole game.

BS, you can trade your way to victory. That player interaction mechanic is what makes it such a classic over all these other autistic worker placement euro games.

kenektik trashing euro games using the word autism isn't going to win you any points here for intelligence, or likability. Euro games take skill. The more experienced player typically wins. Have fun doing what the dice tell you in your teenager game.

Go to 54:09 to get the lists!!!