Top 10 Extinct American Electric Locomotives

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Pensyfan19

Pensyfan19

2 жыл бұрын

As a sequel to the highly successful Extinct American Diesel Locomotive List, I am covering some of the greatest electric locomotives from the U.S. which served a wide variety of railroads. Thank you all for your support from the original list, as your requests have now been answered with this video.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsyl...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_N...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_GM10B and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMD_GM6C
donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/dr...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsyl...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hav...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yor...
www.nwhs.org/
www.northeast.railfan.net/elec...
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The Sound of a Dollar - DJ Williams
Front Porch Blues - Chris Haugen
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Crushin - Audionautix
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@Posttrip
@Posttrip Жыл бұрын
I remember the P-2’s as they passed through the station. What magnificent BRUTES! They could pull anything and when they came through, ‘the station would rumble and vibrate!’
@planetobjeciaou5302
@planetobjeciaou5302 2 жыл бұрын
As an electric locomotive fan, I appreciate this list. Good job!
@ctwentysevenj6531
@ctwentysevenj6531 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing over the years as technology improved, you have electric locomotives today only weighing 85 tons with an output of 8,700 hp, like the Siemens Taurus and the Vectron.
@carltonkeys6205
@carltonkeys6205 Жыл бұрын
ACS-64
@jamielacourse7578
@jamielacourse7578 Жыл бұрын
This is the only railfan channel with good info. Great stuff.
@braysfinds7479
@braysfinds7479 2 жыл бұрын
My favorites not mentioned are the electric locomotives that Canadian National owned. The Z4A boxcab and Z5A steeplecab have no examples surviving, but the Z1A boxcab has 3 examples preserved interestingly.
@marcleslac2413
@marcleslac2413 Жыл бұрын
Yea i saw 6710 and 6711. Initially a 4th was sidelined 6714 but the city of mount royal failed to find a spot.
@Crlarl
@Crlarl Жыл бұрын
Those Z-5-a's are some sexy beasts.
@6aNapoleon
@6aNapoleon 10 ай бұрын
​@@marcleslac2413þ⁵
@ismoleppanen
@ismoleppanen 2 жыл бұрын
The early boxcab locomotives with jackshaft drives would have been equally at home in Germanyt, Switzerland and Austria.
@John-ru5ud
@John-ru5ud 2 жыл бұрын
Note on the P motor - because it could get stuck between third rail sections when it got stopped on the switches in GCT, it had a small pantograph mounted that could make contact with an overhead "third rail" so that it would not block all service.
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 2 жыл бұрын
I think the early Pennsy electrics had that feature too when they ran on the 3rd rail before being replaced by overhead wires.
@maxnikolenko2302
@maxnikolenko2302 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT RESEARCH BRO!!! Loved the pictures and indepth explanations. I'm not a train pro or rail nut, but I like trains. We rode trains all the time back in the USSR when I was a kid back in 1990, 91, 92, 93 , and again in 1998 when we went back to visit to now independent country of Moldova. I love riding the train at night.
@SteamKing2160
@SteamKing2160 Жыл бұрын
More info on the N&W and Virginian Electrics from Herron Rail Video's Pocahontas Glory Volume 6: The N&W electrification line was 56 miles (90 km) from Iaeger to Bluefield, WV from 1914 to 1950. The system used a 11,000 volt 25 cycle alternating current from a powerplant in Bluestone, WV. Even though the electrics hauled the eastbound coal and returning westbound empties, steam power was still employed to move westbound coal to the Pennsy for export along their Sandusky Line and bring those empties back. Passenger trains remained steam hauled unless they needed help. The Virginian electrification came alive in 1925 but was scrapped in 1962 after the 1959 merger with the N&W which was both ancient and modern but operated on an antique system. In the book The Virginian Railway by the late H. Reed, he described a contest staged in the earlier days of electrification on the Virginian. A 6,000 ton coal train was run over Clark's Gap with a 2-8-8-2 on the point and assisted by a pair of 2-10-10-2's on the rear. Within a 15 minute start, the steam train was passed by an identical consist under the care of 3 EL-3A's and 1 pusher. The steam train did 7 mph while the electrics did 14 mph over the 2% grade and the electrics were halted on that same grade, then restarted and reached their speed again within 3 minutes.
@Drockthe3rd
@Drockthe3rd 2 жыл бұрын
15:43 I have that Trains Magazine issue
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 2 жыл бұрын
very glad to see the North Shore Line is on here
@trevorderper5050
@trevorderper5050 2 жыл бұрын
I see a great idea for a Mr incredible becoming canny POV: this gets into preservation.
@christianjamesjr.97
@christianjamesjr.97 11 ай бұрын
Thats actually a pretty good idea
@paulawalach1770
@paulawalach1770 6 ай бұрын
One electric locomotive that even more rare than all you presented, and that is a locomotives that was used in the old Cascade tunnel operations. This was a three phase locomotives in which there where two trolley wires for phase one and phase two. Phase three was the track. Power was derived from a corner grounded delta system of 25 HZ @ 6,600 volts. It was complicated switching through yards. It had trolley poles instead of pantograph. There was one other similar system used in Italy. . However that was an excellent presentation. I,m very much of an advocate/activist in railroad electrification. I,ve been a licensed electrician since 1972. I,m still working full time as a night duty electrician for Boston Mass MBTA/KEOLIS commuter services. I,M IN THE B & B department taking care of facilities/ on track switch heaters etc. Miss Paula Walach- former industrial electrician- union member IBEW
@railron1935
@railron1935 2 жыл бұрын
In the history of Standard Gauge Toy Trains, The Locomotive of Dorfan's 3930 Crocodile was loosely model after the PRR's L-5
@p4277
@p4277 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for including my favorite locomotive, New Haven’s EP-5. I grew up near New Haven and rode into New York behind EP-5s as a child. I still have electric trains from my childhood and my collection includes 2 EP-5s.
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio 2 жыл бұрын
According to the Wikipedia articles about the Great Northern W-1 and the Union Pacific gas turbine electric locomotives, before being scrapped, W-1 #5018 was sold to the Union Pacific, and converted into the B unit of their unsuccessful coal-fired gas turbine locomotive #80 (later #8080).
@timosha21
@timosha21 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a train and I approve this video choo choo!
@DiscothecaImperialis
@DiscothecaImperialis 2 жыл бұрын
3:55 The very tunnel built so big to accomodate with N&W anticipated 'Steam Future' where a newer and bigger Mallets will be built and used there.
@georgecarter838
@georgecarter838 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this very much. If I may, where I live in the South, I would like to add another electric railroad: the Piedmont & Northern Railway which had two unconnected divisions in North and South Carolina. They home built their largest freight electric locomotives (except for one they ordered from GE) at their River Shops in Greenville, South Carolina and were the 4 truck B+B+B+B type with a long boxy carbody. Sadly, none were preserved, but one small switcher is now preserved at Spencer Shops in North Carolina.
@chicagolandrailroader
@chicagolandrailroader 2 жыл бұрын
13:43 that thing That- Thing- (Doesn't sleep for 20 years)
@PowerTrain611
@PowerTrain611 2 жыл бұрын
Good choice for that last one, they were some smart looking motors. I really like the looks of the EP5 too. It really has that '55 look to it that you see in a lot of classic cars from the same era.
@uncinarynin
@uncinarynin 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely to see these old electric engines! 15:13 If only they had gone ahead with the plan, things would be much more advanced today, but they can still start. It takes a federal program for that as it does not make sense to electrify short stretches; train lines should be electric end to end.
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio 2 жыл бұрын
According to the Wikipedia article about New York Central R Motors (not appearing here), the New York Central P Motors (appearing here) had their old parts saved from the conversion from 3000 V DC to 660 V DC, and these parts went into the R Motors when the New York Central sold them to the Chicago, South Shore and South Bend Railroad, which had 1500 V DC electrification. (This works, because as far as I have read, all 3000 V DC electrification of the time, at least in the US, actually used 1500 V DC motors in permanent series -- change the permanent series wiring to allow full parallel operation, and you're good to go. The same thing was done with the subset of General Electric 3000 V DC "Little Joe" electric locomotives that went to the Chicago, South Shore and South Bend Railroad after their export to the Soviet Union was forbidden.)
@thefuriousgamer2553
@thefuriousgamer2553 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl kinda sad that the Milwaukee road EF-2 boxcab didn’t make it along with the little joe
@jimmyduncan7650
@jimmyduncan7650 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent job 👏 You have a knack for being thorough in detail yet still keeping things interesting.
@muir8009
@muir8009 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you touched on the B&O tunnel motors, which were indeed the world's first mainline electric locomotive. rather sadly number 2 was dragged out of the scrap line, dressed up as number 1, put on display and paraded for the centennial, then immediately afterwards put back and scrapped. another loco you could possibly have mentioned would have been the second set of B&O motors, not necessarily for its railroad value, but more as the basis for lionel's first locomotive model, and as that, the first model of an electric locomotive in the world (C&F being a mining engine, the earlier carette being a trolley, and the earliest of course being a replica steam loco, the toy being made before trolleys had been invented). great video still :)
@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014 2 жыл бұрын
25:17, Big Boy: You dare oppose me GN?! ALCO: You dare oppose me GE?!
@RPModelRailroads
@RPModelRailroads 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video highlighting these extinct American electric locomotives! Well done!
@WasatchGarandMan
@WasatchGarandMan 2 жыл бұрын
Great job on this! Really enjoyed it. Made me laugh when you brought up the Swiss Crocadile, was thinking how similar they looked. I know its been done to death but I think wed all like to see you do a top ten extinct Steam loco video. Personally my top ten would be 10. SP/T&NO Streamlined Pacifics 9. DRGW Challengers 8. N&W Streamlined Mountains 7. DBR Class 06 6. LNER U-1 5. CP 0-6-6-0 Articulateds 4. D&H Northerns 3. LNER W1 "Hush Hush" 2. SP GS-1 1. WP Challengers
@WAL_DC-6B
@WAL_DC-6B 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video on U.S. electric locomotives that weren't saved. Thanks for sharing! Don't overlook the fact that American Flyer made a nice "S" gauge version of the EP-5 that was more accurate than the Lionel version as the Flyer model had three axles per truck like the real thing and had better scale dimensions as well. One last minor thing, as a former Iowan I have to point out that the "s" in the word Moines (Ft. Dodge, Des Moine(s) and Southern) is silent.
@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars
@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. CHEERS from New Jersey USA 🇺🇸
@robertweldon7909
@robertweldon7909 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I have often wondered what ever happened to the CUT engines I saw so often when I was a small boy and my dad would take me to the Lindale terminal to watch trains arriving from points west. For once I heartily agree as to who is #1. Thanks. ;-)
@KCDash4400cw
@KCDash4400cw Жыл бұрын
The GM6C and GM10B would have great potential overseas in europe and asia where most of their fleets are electric locos, anyways this vifeo was great and very informative
@Dulcimerist
@Dulcimerist 2 жыл бұрын
Thankfully Baldwin-Westinghouse steeple cab electric locomotives aren't extinct. There are still four alive and well, still hauling freight for Iowa Traction, as the last original interurban line still in operation using electric locomotives.
@The_Canadian_Railfan
@The_Canadian_Railfan 2 жыл бұрын
I need this Thank you for makeing this like the top 10 Extinct diesal locos
@nah_144
@nah_144 2 жыл бұрын
That geep with the Pantograph is very interesting!
@marvwatkins7029
@marvwatkins7029 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for his one: most comprehensive .
@robertdipaola3447
@robertdipaola3447 Жыл бұрын
The GG 1 should have been number one, it was the most versatile, hauling equally as well for passenger and freight service, the most reliable and used and familiar by far, and the longest lasting, and successful
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your suggestion. However, this video covers engines with no surviving members, and thankfully the GG1 is well preserved.
@gied51
@gied51 Жыл бұрын
@@Pensyfan19 ok
@huskerhank9896
@huskerhank9896 Жыл бұрын
I disagree with your definition of extinct. I think a locomotive is extinct if it is withdrawn from service and is permently inoperable. This would include the GG1....while it is true that examples are scattered around the country all of its electrical gear has been removed (remember the PCP scandal) leaving only its outer shell which may or may not be rusting away.
@gamerfan8445
@gamerfan8445 11 ай бұрын
@@huskerhank9896so in that case the Dodo bird is not extinct, because we have the bones.
@6aNapoleon
@6aNapoleon 10 ай бұрын
​@@huskerhank9896...😅
@timothykeinard8085
@timothykeinard8085 2 жыл бұрын
GOOD JOB ILIKE. THANK YOU
@burkevinell
@burkevinell Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. As a Great Northern fan, I would like to have seen more on the W class, but the information on the Y and Z classes was good.
@delvinrodriguez3341
@delvinrodriguez3341 2 жыл бұрын
I'm already excited because I see the EMD GM10B! Which I asked you to talk about in a video a few months ago!
@marvwatkins7029
@marvwatkins7029 2 жыл бұрын
Even though they also were not Class 1's, you could've included the Piedmont and Northern units as well as the South Shore Line's boxcabs and steeple cabs.
@EpicThe112
@EpicThe112 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of EMD GM6C had it been in production and prototype preserved. There would have been orders from for it from the former Yugoslavia since they also use EMD GM Locomotives derived from UP CSX ( Chessie system clinchfield Railroad) and Norfolk Southern 1970s name Norfolk & Western SD40-2s in addition to the Yugoslav Class 363 Locomotives which is derived from Amtrak X995 CC6500 Nez Casse. EMD GM should have preserved GM6C & GM10B locomotives.
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I heard of the Southern Pacific being interested in the GM10B but not other nations like Yugoslavia.
@stanleybaker8707
@stanleybaker8707 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, very informative 👏👍👌😀 really injoyed it.
@Sweatymilkshake
@Sweatymilkshake 2 жыл бұрын
Well now you HAVE to do top ten extinct steam locomotives
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 2 жыл бұрын
Many channels already have videos on that topic, and I tend not to cover the same topics that other channels already have videos on.
@tracynation2820
@tracynation2820 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent video. Hello from the Tracy Mountain Railway in Colorado. 💙 T.E.N.
@australiasindustrialage689
@australiasindustrialage689 2 жыл бұрын
While this is a reasonable video, I do not agree with your synopsis. The EL2b was the Virginian primary electric locomotive and clearly one of the most elegant designs in the world, hence, it should have really been in the top 5, Notwithstanding, the EL3A should have also been on your list. Although the New Haven EP5s were mentioned, the more elegant EP4s and EF3s weren't mentioned. In all honesty I would have placed the Great Northern W1, New Haven EP5, EP4/EF3 and the Virginian EL2b in the top 5. The No. 1 position of the P Motor is debatable but plausable, but I'm not sure that the Oregon machine or the PRR L5 were significant enough to qualify as a top 10. Being a Pennsy fan I'm surprised you didn't mention the E3b type. Anyway, all the best.
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your suggestions. I chose the Oregon electric in order to give proper recognition to the hundreds of electric interurban Railways that once roamed the nation.
@thedesigner00
@thedesigner00 2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@gezag.hanniker1940
@gezag.hanniker1940 2 жыл бұрын
Another note, some of the "extinct" locomotives do or did exist by various overseas railroads. Albeit modifications to that nation. PRR E3b - RENFE 278 - Dutch Railways has a version of the NH Jets. Check them out, interesting.
@EpicThe112
@EpicThe112 Жыл бұрын
You are correct the Dutch Railways version is NS 1200 for E3b PRR. Back in the day when they were operational you would find them at border stations with West Germany that are electrified Bad Bentheim Venlo and Emmerich am Rhein Hollandstrecke Duisburg Utrecht line
@09JDCTrainMan
@09JDCTrainMan Жыл бұрын
One unfortunate thing to note is that all of the Great Northern and New Haven electric locomotives were scrapped.
@rocksreynolds3642
@rocksreynolds3642 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent film, thanks!
@tylergreen4843
@tylergreen4843 2 жыл бұрын
*They should have preserved a new haven ep-3, ep-4 and ep-5. They are very nice electric locomotives*
@electrictractiontrainsandt3063
@electrictractiontrainsandt3063 Жыл бұрын
Great video, very interesting for sure!
@getrickrolled1737
@getrickrolled1737 2 жыл бұрын
wow this video is cool!
@armandoperez7967
@armandoperez7967 2 жыл бұрын
Why not a modernized version of the GM10B? This beast with 3 b radial trucks, ac mother’s and about 12k continuous hp would be awesome, potentially replacing 3 dc 4000 to 4400 hp locos on a train. Most trains could be handled by one of these electric engines.
@armandoperez7967
@armandoperez7967 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I meant AC motors.
@BnuuyBoi2005
@BnuuyBoi2005 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a great video for my day. Never thought about extinct electric locomotives
@RaisedLetter
@RaisedLetter 2 жыл бұрын
4:12 that legit scared me
@jwrailve3615
@jwrailve3615 Жыл бұрын
I have NEVER been a electric railfan. Railroad motive power used out of the U.S. are ugly so funky looking and buffers on cars are amusing. However I found this super informative after waking up at 2:30 in the morning. I’ve seen one gg1 in a musuem but I think I’ve seen another, beyond that I don’t think I’ve ever even seen any preserved electrics in musuems.
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio 2 жыл бұрын
Voice typo: Norfolk & Western LC-1 wheel arrangement is not 2-B-B-2, but 1-B-B-1 (in Whyte Notation, 2-4-4-2 as you said).
@caboosech
@caboosech 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are the best I enjoy I'm specially the extinct Steam locomotive & diesel series and glad to see you're doing something with electrics and keep doing your your best your videos as I said are the great
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 2 жыл бұрын
I was the only one who did a extinct diesel list, but I haven't done any steam lists since there are so many of them, and I don't make videos on topics covered by other channels.
@southernkansasrailfan1964
@southernkansasrailfan1964 2 жыл бұрын
Now I just want to know your top 10 extinct steamers list just cause these two videos have been so interesting
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I'll do a video on that topic since there are so many of them, and I tend not to cover topics already covered by other channels.
@southernkansasrailfan1964
@southernkansasrailfan1964 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pensyfan19 Yeah, but I just love the way you find your picks. I find you lists interesting
@paulmishler402
@paulmishler402 2 жыл бұрын
Ah I was actually going to make something like this too, though this is probably better than anything I will ever make
@varunakeerthisingha6383
@varunakeerthisingha6383 Жыл бұрын
Excellent locomotives of American Railroad.
@ishirotanaka
@ishirotanaka Жыл бұрын
Had many mid west and western railroads converted some of their routes to electric operations, chances are all these electric engines would have been built in greater quantities.
@theoldbayrailfan
@theoldbayrailfan 2 жыл бұрын
Do top 10 extinct passenger train sets
@mr.shadestrains6033
@mr.shadestrains6033 2 жыл бұрын
Awsum🚂❤️👍👍👍👍
@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan
@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan 22 күн бұрын
25:18 it’s worth mentioning that one of these W1 built for the great northern engine 5018 would be acquired by Union Pacific for the coal turbine locomotive project the a unit would be built from an Alco PA the B unit was great northern electric number 5018 and the tender came from challenger 3590 it was first tested with a conventional low-grade fuel however when they started to use pulverize coal the test failed as the soot dirtied up the fans of the turban locomotive as this turban for only either six or nine months
@maozilla9149
@maozilla9149 2 жыл бұрын
good show
@SandBoxJohn
@SandBoxJohn 2 жыл бұрын
In you honorable mentions you should have included the later GE E-33 E-44 and two version of the PRR P-5
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 2 жыл бұрын
Why would I include locomotives with preserved examples? This list goes over engines with no surviving examples.
@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
@AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014 2 жыл бұрын
Pennsyfan: makes a top 10 for extinct American electric locomotives and another for extinct American diesel locomotives. Me, who made a top 10 each for long lost steam locomotive classmates, another for preservatives steam locomotives involved in wrecks, now working on a top 10 for American steam locomotive designs bought by multiple railroads: “Looks like we got competition, from a more modern form of motive power.”
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry. I won't make any steam lists to rival you
@alfredfeagins1886
@alfredfeagins1886 4 ай бұрын
I wish you could have mentioned the FF-1, nicknamed "Big Liz". It was an electric Pennsy side-rodder. It had a 1CC1 wheel arrangement. Its length was 76 and a half feet and its weight was 258 tons. What led to its downfall was its high horsepower, around 7000, too much for 1917 operations. But your description of extinct electrics was quite interesting.🙂
@user-yt2qm4no6d
@user-yt2qm4no6d 11 ай бұрын
I would love to see the N&W Class LC-1.
@user-yt2qm4no6d
@user-yt2qm4no6d 11 ай бұрын
The boxcab locomotive is unique because it had these pistons on the wheels.
@FreihEitner
@FreihEitner 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. I don't know if it was just because components were more bulky back then, but considering that diesel-electrics generate power which run electric motors, it's bizarre to me that makers of full electrics seemed to go out of their way to make them look different, including huge "porches" of sub-frames sticking out on each end, distinctly separated carbody and driving gear sections, and wacky steam locomotive-like fixed driving wheels. Surely a normal EMD E unit design could have had its prime mover replaced with electrical equipment and been just as useful. /shrug/
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio 2 жыл бұрын
That's because many of the electric locomotives were made before the EMD E and F units caught on. Most of the later electric locomotives (before foreign manufacturers took over, and including some in this video) had diesel styling.
@apolofeve
@apolofeve 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lucius_Chiaraviglio Tha's right. The New Haven EP-5 for instance had styling similar to diesels of the era.
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio 2 жыл бұрын
@@apolofeve . . . And it wasn't the only one in the video. (By the way, I should also point out that some very early diesels, made before the E and F units hit the market, had pre-diesel boxcab styles.)
@tracynation2820
@tracynation2820 2 жыл бұрын
The engineering and science were not there. They still believed that you needed things like unpowered guide wheels to help stabilize the locomotive at speed, like a steam locomotive, and some railroads had sharp curves that required an articulated chassis, almost like the Union Pacific Big Boy steam locomotives, and the many different siderod and motor drive combinations are really incredible, but you are right, they took the styling to a whole different level, mostly, I think, so that their locomotives would look different from their competitor's product. 💙 T.E.N.
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio 2 жыл бұрын
@@tracynation2820 With regard to the unpowered guide wheels, this was because they didn't know how to make a suspension that wouldn't hunt (develop horizontal oscillations) above low speeds on bogies with heavy motors mounted on them. This was a problem with some early electric locomotives and with the earliest diesel locomotives (pre-E/F), and continues to be a problem to some extent even in modern times -- locomotives with 3 motors mounted on the bogies had this problem as late as the 1980s, notably the E60CP, SDP40F, and P30CH (and we'll have to see what happens when METRA gets their rebuilt SD70MAC locomotives). Of course, the best solution is not to add guide wheels, but to have an advanced suspension; it also helps to mount the motors on the locomotive frame, but that makes delivering the torque more complicated.
@jorgesabater8640
@jorgesabater8640 5 ай бұрын
Since I am extremely interested un electric locomotives, I found this documentary fascinating. I would love to see one on traction company steeple cabs and boxcab units. Many thanks!
@mrsaturngamingandstories
@mrsaturngamingandstories 2 жыл бұрын
I will also do an Extinct Electric locomotive but it's Top 5 on my version and top 10 on your
@RandomTrainfan
@RandomTrainfan Жыл бұрын
The worst looking extinct locomotive is the B23Q-7
@danielbedrossian5986
@danielbedrossian5986 Жыл бұрын
LC-1 already used the 1 to 3 phase rotary conwerter, that early (1914)? Kandó must have been proud at that his engineering inventions kought atention early.
@NW-gi1cp
@NW-gi1cp 2 жыл бұрын
Imo: the n&w electrics were sorta sus
@genesisrailfan1507
@genesisrailfan1507 5 ай бұрын
Funnily enough, one of the GN W1s were rebuilt as a B-unit for UP's failed coal turbine locomotive and was also scrapped.
@Engine33Truck
@Engine33Truck Жыл бұрын
The Virginian box cabs didn’t make the list at all? Just a mention? Those things were absolute monsters in all categories.
@ACLR03
@ACLR03 2 жыл бұрын
Do the top 10 Extinct american steam engines next
@trevorcourtney7457
@trevorcourtney7457 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this. I know very little about American railway terminology, so could someone tell me what 'helper service ' is? Is it what we in the UK would call banking?
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it would.
@traviscurlutu7723
@traviscurlutu7723 11 ай бұрын
1 other electric you didn't mention you may not know about were from the Muskingum Electric Railroad in Ohio. They had 2, General Electric E50's. Only two were built only for that railroad. Check it out. similar to the E44's in appearance. Both were scrapped in the 90's after AEP was done mining coal in southern Ohio.
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 2 жыл бұрын
The P Motor is literally just a unstreamlined GG-1 if I'm being honest
@CaseysTrains
@CaseysTrains 2 жыл бұрын
EP-3, GG-1 and P Motors essentially share a bogey design
@takarailfans
@takarailfans 2 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@MrCateagle
@MrCateagle 8 ай бұрын
Y-2A would have looked good in PRR colors with the cat's whiskers striping
@johntapp7232
@johntapp7232 2 жыл бұрын
One that receives honorable mention-at least in theory-is the diesel-electric-electric FL-9 from New Haven.
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 2 жыл бұрын
True, but there are plenty of surviving FL9s. This video covers engines with no surviving members left.
@paulmessina9252
@paulmessina9252 8 ай бұрын
I agree. I worked on the GG-1 electrics in the 1970s. Designed by Raymond Lowey, and built by the Pennsylvania Railroad in Altoona, Pennsylvania. They raced along the Northeast Corridor since the mid 1930s until the early 1980s. I rode as a locomotive technician on them on fast passenger trains of up to 15 cars up to 100 mph. Two electrics could pull 150 freight cars effortlessly. You also didn’t mention the Virginian / New Haven E-33 and Pennsylvania E-44s. I worked on these electrics pulling heavy freights effortlessly fro New Jersey to Washington, D.C. All of the aforementioned were top of the line electrics in the East. Personally, I believe that the GG-1 was the most successful electrics in the United States. Paul Messina. 48 years in the industry.
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your insight! Since this video covers engines with no surviving members, the E33 and E44 are thankfully not included in this video based on the topic, as there is one surviving member of each class.
@gezag.hanniker1940
@gezag.hanniker1940 2 жыл бұрын
I believe one of the P motors went to Amtrak for tunnel maintenance trains to Penn Station as I saw one at Sunnyside Yards during the 70's
@maciekkra539
@maciekkra539 Жыл бұрын
Actually it was a T motor that was used.
@vernonsmith6176
@vernonsmith6176 Жыл бұрын
I used to see the GG1 at the sunny side yard...a slow moving beast!
@user-jj4qk9md3r
@user-jj4qk9md3r 2 жыл бұрын
日本にもこの動画を楽しんでいる者が居ることをご報告します。 始めて見る写真もあり、楽しめました。
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 2 жыл бұрын
聞いてうれしい!
@truckrobo147
@truckrobo147 2 жыл бұрын
Hold up pensy! There's still one surviving t motor left! It's in the new York area, abandoned and parked with an s2 electric!
@Pensyfan19
@Pensyfan19 2 жыл бұрын
True, but that is a T motor: a slightly smaller version of the P motor.
@truckrobo147
@truckrobo147 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pensyfan19 well either or it's a survivor and like the rock in SpongeBob it's in great shape besides the rust
@michaelgiacoma9339
@michaelgiacoma9339 Жыл бұрын
S1, it's the first of class 6000/100. They're headed to Danbury. The Uboat and RS that were there, both in CR colors, will be scrapped in place.
@RailBrothersProductions
@RailBrothersProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Very Sad 😥
@JoeyLovesTrains
@JoeyLovesTrains 4 ай бұрын
5:15 interesting that’s there 2 pantographs on the rear and one on the front
@saasiisuu
@saasiisuu 9 ай бұрын
The locomotive train put it together. The diesel train is Steve look on the DEF diesel, 191.
@MO-bq5rd
@MO-bq5rd 2 жыл бұрын
OK didn't know that there had to be no survivers.
@chriswempleiii8525
@chriswempleiii8525 2 жыл бұрын
What about the iconic Pennsy/PC/Conrail E44?
@owenstockwood5040
@owenstockwood5040 2 жыл бұрын
Not extinct. One is preserved at Strasburg.
@mattsmocs3281
@mattsmocs3281 2 жыл бұрын
Good video but just one note. The Oregon electric cars have Trolley poles/ trollers not pantographs. :p other than that its good.
@tylergreen4843
@tylergreen4843 2 жыл бұрын
they have three s motor electrics and a t motor electric from the new york central still around
@kingsleyrocketry
@kingsleyrocketry 2 жыл бұрын
the EP-5 and P motors better be on this list edit: you are the biggest chad on youtube
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