Top 10 Favorite Fire Emblem Prepromotes

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The Omni Blade

The Omni Blade

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A prepromote is a unit that joins you without needing the required item to achieve their advanced class since they're one step ahead. There's a massive stigma around using these units, but that doesn't mean they're all bad. In this video, I give my thoughts on 10 of these types of units that go above and beyond, master seal or no master seal.
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@foolishlyfoolishfool5747
@foolishlyfoolishfool5747 6 жыл бұрын
You could say that Camilla is *BUSTED*
@Ajia_No_Envy
@Ajia_No_Envy 5 жыл бұрын
Foolishly Foolish Fool why tho
@isakts8576
@isakts8576 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ajia_No_Envy oh you innocent creature
@astralguardian5930
@astralguardian5930 2 жыл бұрын
No! Get your silly puns outta here!
@onewingedakuma6835
@onewingedakuma6835 11 ай бұрын
That pun hurt me physically
@henryreturns1397
@henryreturns1397 6 жыл бұрын
What have Seth accomplished ? - Seth can solo the entire game of Sacred Stones - Seth is your most important unit to speed run Sacred Stones - Seth can do both things that I mention above while having Eirika on his back !
@thebigx68
@thebigx68 6 жыл бұрын
I see a fellow Seth lover
@g.n.s.153
@g.n.s.153 6 жыл бұрын
A few units can solo the game, it's not a "Seth" thing.
@yes1667
@yes1667 6 жыл бұрын
@@g.n.s.153 Seth can solo the game at base. What other units can solo the game without investment.
@g.n.s.153
@g.n.s.153 6 жыл бұрын
How do you not gain levels if you're soloing the game?
@chrs.7845
@chrs.7845 6 жыл бұрын
He can solo a super easy game woohoo
@tenara-kun5979
@tenara-kun5979 6 жыл бұрын
Too bad Heroes shafted Seth....
@Mangs1337
@Mangs1337 6 жыл бұрын
4:46 - Oh boy, someone needs to watch the latest episode of Pitfalls. 10:33 - Sorry, but I have to dislike this video now.
@firecraft7032
@firecraft7032 6 жыл бұрын
Whose the other guy that disliked?
@thereaIitsybitsyspider
@thereaIitsybitsyspider 6 жыл бұрын
Happy to see that you have principles, Mangs.
@DarthWillSmith
@DarthWillSmith 6 жыл бұрын
Mang Mang senpai! I would want to see yours' and/or Mekkkah's take on this list.
@AleXwern
@AleXwern 6 жыл бұрын
12:24 M A G E K I L L E R
@darthr0xas363
@darthr0xas363 6 жыл бұрын
Speaking of watching episodes of pitfalls, 13:14 with "experience siphoning"
@quintupleb9750
@quintupleb9750 6 жыл бұрын
Never talk down on Matt Mercer. He is the dungeon master of the world
@moonlight2870
@moonlight2870 6 жыл бұрын
Seth should be numbers 1 2 and 3 of this list.
@astracrits4633
@astracrits4633 6 жыл бұрын
Correction: Seth should be the ENTIRE list.
@geenobe9941
@geenobe9941 6 жыл бұрын
Theres a reason he's considered the best unit in the series.
@andrebryant3312
@andrebryant3312 6 жыл бұрын
I'd argue Sigurd over him, because Sigurd not only solos the enemies, but is also the one to sieze.
@MikanBaldmiki
@MikanBaldmiki 5 жыл бұрын
@@andrebryant3312 Sigurd only solo's enemies? Sorry sir but Seth solo's the whole game in general. Bow down.
@andrebryant3312
@andrebryant3312 5 жыл бұрын
@@MikanBaldmiki You have that backwards. Because Sigurd Siezes, you literally don't need anyone else. But no matter what, you always need Eirika/Ephraim for Seth.
@toluroluga1539
@toluroluga1539 5 жыл бұрын
If Seth isn't one I will report u
@magix_7391
@magix_7391 4 жыл бұрын
Tolu Roluga he is stupid
@FilthyCasualty
@FilthyCasualty 4 жыл бұрын
Magix_ Brigands in hell reacting to Seth after he killed them.
@poisondamage2182
@poisondamage2182 5 жыл бұрын
red lobster attacks! Astra! crit! crit!crit! crit! crit! everyone is ded
@sharpfegamer
@sharpfegamer 6 жыл бұрын
Ryoma is fifth because you don't need him, but Seth is first even though he isn't needed. I agree with your choices but can you explain the differences?
@hoennzach4425
@hoennzach4425 6 жыл бұрын
Seth has perfect availability, two weapon types, a horsey, gba javelins
@sharpfegamer
@sharpfegamer 6 жыл бұрын
The Omni Blade thanks for explaining.
@steveh1474
@steveh1474 6 жыл бұрын
Ryoma can get S support with Rinkah and get Lancebreaker out of a heart seal. his damage is already tremendous, he double strikes everything even on Lunatic, if he falls below half health Vantage makes him truly invincible on normal or hard difficulty. on Lunatic, hes so close to invincible, just keep him in defensive tiles and try to keep Rinkah beside him for support bonuses. Ryoma is better than you gave him credit for. which is saying something, because you still said hes a great unit. hes ridiculous. another fun way to use him is S support Kagero. get Replicate for him, and now you have TWO RYOMAS to terrorize the battlefield. oh they share health? who gives a shit? hes absurd. just keep him away from lances and shuriken. he can still take out a few of em if he needs to though.
@falosemb400
@falosemb400 6 жыл бұрын
S E T H
@merlink.7287
@merlink.7287 6 жыл бұрын
@@steveh1474 the biggest problem I'm assuming for Ryoma being lower on the list is pretty much what your comment says to make him a monster. Just too much setup for him getting to that point rather than just starting out as God. Still an amazing unit in his game and a possibly a majority of them, Vantage is amazing on him as you have stated. Great swordsman I would love to have on my team, but Seth is better at babying and closing distance.
@RockstarEddie-rk1rm
@RockstarEddie-rk1rm 6 жыл бұрын
Haar is a prepromote in Radiant Dawn. The Dragonmaster class is the promoted version of the Dragonknight. Also, the fact that everyone else who joins after Haar is a 2nd tier class could also be said for Pent (except for Nino) and Mathilda (except Delthea).
@blitz4779
@blitz4779 6 жыл бұрын
A prepromote in radiant dawn is tier 3. Haar is only tier 2. And while yes he's the best unit in that game, but isn't technically a actually a prepromote
@RockstarEddie-rk1rm
@RockstarEddie-rk1rm 6 жыл бұрын
Jack Lutz then why is nobody saying Sothe isn’t a prepromote?
@blitz4779
@blitz4779 6 жыл бұрын
@@RockstarEddie-rk1rm because he is a prepromote. There are a few units that can't promote to a 3rd tier on their own. Ike is in this boat to. So they are technically full prepromote.
@Koppu1doragon
@Koppu1doragon 6 жыл бұрын
If you have to say Except than the it could not also be said for them unless the original comment you're talking also said except
@DarkusFireBlaze3582
@DarkusFireBlaze3582 5 жыл бұрын
@@blitz4779 Who made the rule that a prepromote HAD to be a tier 3? Haar is a prepromote, no two ways about it. It's just that RD is littered with prepromotes that we never pay attention to it.
@aaronynclan7674
@aaronynclan7674 5 жыл бұрын
I'm curious, how do you make Camilla useful with magic? I mostly play Revelation of the three, granted, but I always found her growth too low for tomes to be useful and use her for her axes.
@DarthWillSmith
@DarthWillSmith 6 жыл бұрын
10:55 What? Most FE vets say the EXACT OPPOSITE of this.
@darthr0xas363
@darthr0xas363 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, point me to one FE vet who says "don't use prepromotes" and I, will probably just be amazed you found someone like that
@thebigx68
@thebigx68 6 жыл бұрын
@@darthr0xas363 I'm honestly just laughing at this. Apart from Jeigen being utter shit, a lot of prepromotes are actually useful and sometimes even a better option.
@yes1667
@yes1667 6 жыл бұрын
@@thebigx68 "Jeigans are shit" GG best Fe player in existence
@matthiasc.z8332
@matthiasc.z8332 6 жыл бұрын
They are pretty useful especially in harder difficulties
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 6 жыл бұрын
i dont use most jagens that arent seth or frederick because they do kill the enemys too easily and jagen himself is honestly is pretty bad.they are still useful for damagecontrol *because* they are like that and prepromotes that join later in the game are generally worth using nomatter what happens. the only exception is gunter.he IS useful for the two chapters he is used in(chapter 1 and 2),but even in those chapters,his stats are considered a joke
@emersonwaide1667
@emersonwaide1667 5 жыл бұрын
I am from the future and let me say three houses has catharine and shes so freacking good even till late games shes a sword master with a relic thunderbrand. so good
@666blaziken
@666blaziken 5 жыл бұрын
I second that. Catherine is very good, that thunderbrand weapon often quadruples enemies
@thomasdossett10
@thomasdossett10 6 жыл бұрын
This was a good video to watch; the characters included were interesting but well explained as to why they earned the spot on the list and it is most definitely clear that your editing skills have grown. Needless to say you made a really enjoyable video Omni. Also do not let people bring you down about liking (or in this case loving) Camilla as you have every right to and no one can or should take that away from you. Plus I do consider Camilla one of my favourite characters from Fire Emblem but the top spot at the moment for me would go to Xander for both character and unit usage. Sorry for the long comment.
@maverick5169
@maverick5169 6 жыл бұрын
One thing you missed about Camilla. She is a very good mother with unparalleled growth rates and awesome class and skills. Want a good Kana? Camilla. Want a decent fast, flying but still tanky Ignatius? Camilla. Want the debuff goddesses in form of Midori or Velouria? Camilla. She is basically a human version of the Action Replay
@Juan-zs6jt
@Juan-zs6jt 6 жыл бұрын
You don't need the kids tho.
@Luisar-ox3nb
@Luisar-ox3nb 6 жыл бұрын
@@Juan-zs6jt It stills helpful in case you need more useful units. Percy and azura's mother are probably the most helpful ones
@sean3920
@sean3920 5 жыл бұрын
Also I wish you also talked about Priscilla in your Pent bit. Sure she won't have the tome mastery without some additional investment, but valkyries are pretty handy in horse emblem That and her staff rank it would have been interesting to hear how Pent matches up
@frankseward7017
@frankseward7017 6 жыл бұрын
I hope BLAZINGKNIGHT comments on this list. In fact I want him to make a similar one.
@LittleAl016
@LittleAl016 5 жыл бұрын
Blazingknight isn't really someone who would be among the be all and end all of FE players.
@AnimePigeon
@AnimePigeon 5 жыл бұрын
@The Omni Blade - Before Number 4, who is the girl with black hair getting a class change? Is she from ShadowOfValentia?
@langleysenterprise5134
@langleysenterprise5134 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that is Tharja...
@Thegreatpapyrus-ec5ss
@Thegreatpapyrus-ec5ss 5 жыл бұрын
Okay I know I'm late but is camilla really as good as he says because I can never use camilla because she never gets the growths I need and is replaced by child charecters and other royals, so if someone could tell me if shes just bad or I'm just unlucky.
@StomachPlug
@StomachPlug 5 жыл бұрын
Actually I got Stefan on my very first playthrough with Lethe exactly as you show here. Because previous Fire Emblem games had treasures hidden in the desert stages I had her move towards the corner there after beating a few guys, lo and behold I had Stefan on my team. I actually had no idea that you *had* to use a Laguz unit until I watched this.
@ens0109
@ens0109 5 жыл бұрын
Who made the camilla dark mage art at 21:25
@andyknightwarden9746
@andyknightwarden9746 5 жыл бұрын
"Due"-"Sell". There you go.
@JohnSmith-ns8si
@JohnSmith-ns8si 5 жыл бұрын
3:20 He does show up if someone other than a Laguz steps there, right? And then he says he wants to meet a Laguz.
@coldjolteon5799
@coldjolteon5799 4 жыл бұрын
Three houses are out, with like 5 units that are garunteed prepromotes: Catherine, Alois, Shamir, Seteth and Gilbert. Omni, if you read this, do any of them have any place on this list?
@JaidynReiman
@JaidynReiman 2 ай бұрын
Old video and comment, but Catherine is pretty broken and Seteth isn't bad by any means. Gilbert is trash and the rest are okay. Jeritza (added via free DLC) is also busted on CF so CF gets a great unit as well.
@coldjolteon5799
@coldjolteon5799 2 ай бұрын
@@JaidynReiman I wrote the original comment wrong, the video was published before 3H iirc? I wasn't trying to downplay the prepromotes they're all quite good
@matthewchristiansen1557
@matthewchristiansen1557 5 жыл бұрын
"Don't train anybody but Sothe in the DB in P1" *Proceeds to not be able to make it through DB chapters in P3 HM
@covershopkid
@covershopkid 5 жыл бұрын
As sacred stones was my first fe game and Seth was my first favorite characters, it makes me truly happy that Seth is considered the best character in the series to most.
@96MrNitro
@96MrNitro 5 жыл бұрын
What fire emblem is at 6:17?
@longshot4401
@longshot4401 5 жыл бұрын
Wait there's a fire emblem game coming to switch???
@joaquindonadell3056
@joaquindonadell3056 6 жыл бұрын
If you played FE 4 either Quan or sigurd shouod have been. In the list
@tigera6
@tigera6 6 жыл бұрын
Problem with Cuan is that he is only available for like 3 chapters. Sigurd is a main for the 1st part of the game who happen to be pre-promoted, so by that logic he is also not really applicable for this list IMO.
@666Kaca
@666Kaca 5 жыл бұрын
@@tigera6 3 chapters but gen 1 is only 5 chapters long.
@thewindysage1538
@thewindysage1538 5 жыл бұрын
@@666Kaca actually six, making him available in 4 but half of those are axe mania , reducing his usefulness a bit
@boot-4704
@boot-4704 5 жыл бұрын
the windy sage Genealogy is 11 chapters. That’s half of the game, which would be the usual amount of chapters Jagens are used. Therefore, Sigurd’s usefulness proves itself.
@thewindysage1538
@thewindysage1538 5 жыл бұрын
@@boot-4704 I was talking about Quan Sigurd simply starts strong and never lets up Requires no investment although favouritism is necessary for Seliph's proper growth so he normally ends up a 12 move ringed monster
@Calvados656
@Calvados656 4 жыл бұрын
Ive always wondered if maybe Stefan was added in in such an odd way because he was intended as a kinda pseudo cheat code in case youre struggling due to poor rng or lost units, etc.
@kai_824
@kai_824 6 жыл бұрын
Camilla really is only godlike in CQ, By the time you get her in RV, You should have taken advantage of the easy exp in thw early game
@TheHenrytouchdown
@TheHenrytouchdown 6 жыл бұрын
I feel that Conquest is the only one in which units being good actually matter. Like, even without grinding BR and RV are laughably easy.
@kai_824
@kai_824 6 жыл бұрын
@@TheHenrytouchdown BR is easy no doubt but Lunatic classic RV is still extremely difficult without grinding, and even so its unfair to compare the units when they are on WAY differny paths, Yes Camilla is more useful in CQ but Ryoma still WAAAAAYYY out classes her no matter what
@nathancory7278
@nathancory7278 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm the only one who never got much use out of Camilla in any route...in CQ she's almost necessary for Chapter 10 but she always falls off so quickly after that because her stats are always way too middle-of-the-road to do anything
@LittleAl016
@LittleAl016 5 жыл бұрын
@@nathancory7278 Git gud.
@LittleAl016
@LittleAl016 5 жыл бұрын
@Delta kai09: The mere fact that Camilla's godlike in CQ doesn't mean she's any less so in RV. She only has more competition, and from other units just as good as her.
@donaldtelking1791
@donaldtelking1791 5 жыл бұрын
Did you say if perceval has no growths he can fight zehiel
@ethn_chey
@ethn_chey 6 жыл бұрын
Ummm. Sigurd anywhere here?
@Koppu1doragon
@Koppu1doragon 6 жыл бұрын
Rewatch the beginning of the video, you know the part where he said he's never played anything before the GBA era
@carlosaugusto9821
@carlosaugusto9821 6 жыл бұрын
Still, Sigurd is one of them for a fact. Doesn't matter what he thinks, even if he knew it.
@Koppu1doragon
@Koppu1doragon 6 жыл бұрын
+Carlos Augusto No shit he's a strong pre promote but how is he going to appear on a list when his game is not considered for the list due to lack of knowledge on the game?
@ethn_chey
@ethn_chey 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I forgot about that. Sos.
@tigera6
@tigera6 6 жыл бұрын
IMO Sigurd does not belong to this list though, as hes a Main Lord, not a super strong ally unit
@reyqueenie
@reyqueenie 5 жыл бұрын
I feel I must point out that the thumbnail says Promoted Units, not Prepromotes. Just thought I’d let ya know.
@spenc4808
@spenc4808 4 жыл бұрын
Yess, you put ancient vessel in the background of the news part. One of my fav tracks.
@elijahkaiza1320
@elijahkaiza1320 5 жыл бұрын
6:40 What version are you playing Cause Duessel is absolute shit. he only has 12 strength and 10 skill every time
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 4 жыл бұрын
You need to watch mekkahs video on Cecilia. She may not be the best at combat, but she more than makes up for it by being a fantastic utility unit and providing decent chip damage when you really need it.
@LordoflightningLoto
@LordoflightningLoto 5 жыл бұрын
I'd argue that Geneogly of the holy war and Thracia 776 will probably be remade at some point so new fans could experience those. I love those games but they do have age on them. Great video!
@elgatto3133
@elgatto3133 6 жыл бұрын
>mentions camus >doesn't mention sirius >no sigurd oof
@royalhistorian5109
@royalhistorian5109 5 жыл бұрын
watch the video more closely. He explain why.
@elgatto3133
@elgatto3133 5 жыл бұрын
Kai 676111 he should play real fire emblem games smh
@royalhistorian5109
@royalhistorian5109 5 жыл бұрын
Crusching My Opponents Oh how nice of you because I played through Fire emblem 4,Fire Emblem the binding blade, Fire Emblem Blazing sword, Fire Emblem Scared Stone and the remakes, Awakening and Fates (All three path ways) So what your saying?
@elgatto3133
@elgatto3133 5 жыл бұрын
Kai 676111 not talking about you, talking about blaze, facetiously
@royalhistorian5109
@royalhistorian5109 5 жыл бұрын
@@elgatto3133 Well it actually did play all the real fire emblem games.
@demonicgamerazazel9866
@demonicgamerazazel9866 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, making this before I watch the video; I'll edit it after I'm done. But Jaffar was in the thumbnail, and while I love Jaffar a ton, one of the top ten prepromotes? No, no, and no. He is a delete button for any enemy, but so are most of your dudes in FE7 late game, and Jaffar is 6-Mov locked AND sword locked. He can't get anywhere, and he can't counter most enemies, since in the lategame a lot of em have 1-2 range. EDIT: So I'm starting to realize I got B8'ed, so well done! You have good taste in units, and you gave Sothe credit!!! THANK YOU!
@allyrose9494
@allyrose9494 5 жыл бұрын
Given all your comments on number 3, I’m guessing you like Harr?
@greenhillmario
@greenhillmario 5 жыл бұрын
I realised you have some experience with Yugioh with the Tour Guide comment in your latest top 10, but the Batteryman joke actually got me pretty good
@monsieurorleans1329
@monsieurorleans1329 4 жыл бұрын
What about Sigurd from fe4?
@thewindysage1538
@thewindysage1538 5 жыл бұрын
17:08 Hot maltet through butter The Ice lance Right
@Zerobasssoul
@Zerobasssoul 6 жыл бұрын
Aight ima need RD Haar, Seth, Percival, or Birthright Ryoma in the no.1 spot or all taking up 4-1 spots
@troykv96
@troykv96 6 жыл бұрын
Seth is so powerful that he's powerlevel and utility is compared with absurd power houses like Sigurd and Robin... Which one of these three is the best unit overall is debatable; but they definitely incredible. Also; I like throwing Spirit Bombs at people; Thani is very fun :3 (BTW; the reason why Micaiah has this strangely low damage against soldiers is because for some reason any unit that isn't a bandit/fighter has a lot higher Res compared with similar units in other Fire Emblem Games... Playing RD can be painful if you aren't prepared; but I personally find it A LOT more fun that playing FE7, FE8 or FE9 that are cake walks.).
@invisiblecobra7429
@invisiblecobra7429 6 жыл бұрын
troykv96 nah. Haar is probably the best unit in fire emblem. That man is absolutely broken
@FBKTtv
@FBKTtv 6 жыл бұрын
I agree, Radiant Dawn is EASILY the most fun Fire Emblem thus far. It's challenging, but more than manageable. Though all the hate on the dawn brigade seems a little odd. Did anyone take advantage of the absolute TANK that is Aran? Come end game I have him rolling out side by side with Haar.
@tigera6
@tigera6 6 жыл бұрын
Problem with Radiant Dawn is not enough exp to share among them. Edward, Aran and Nolan can turn out great, but you can only pick 1 of them to pour exp to become Tier 3 by part 4 of the game.
@troykv96
@troykv96 6 жыл бұрын
RD!Haar is a very good unit; but he has the problem of not always being there (unlike Seth, Sigurd or Robin where you always have them)
@troykv96
@troykv96 6 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with Aran is having a inconsistent HP and Spd that can be problematic in Maniac Mode.
@riton349
@riton349 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't got Stephan, cuz I met him w. Jill unfortunately. Knew that there was sth. special in the upper right corner of the desert map, but going there by foot is insane.
@Nikita_Akashya
@Nikita_Akashya 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if i should get Xenoblade Chronicles 2 or not? Maybe I'll get it after I finished DE. And I totally need to play Sacred Stones again. And Blazing Sword. But I also want to finish Pokemon Emerald.
@ariano1561
@ariano1561 Жыл бұрын
Watching this kind of videos is really just waitimg for Seth
@mr.s.i6642
@mr.s.i6642 2 жыл бұрын
Stefan is a sitting duck in enemy phase & where is Harken?? He is ridiculously broken.
@mysticknight1494
@mysticknight1494 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, Seth... Just the sight of that man puts a smile on my face. There's something otherworldly about having that much power in your hands.
@Ecko_Effect
@Ecko_Effect 6 жыл бұрын
I was mighty scared you were going to say the Duessel is better than Seth.
@cornmono3665
@cornmono3665 5 жыл бұрын
Yo, I had no idea that Pent leaves if Louise dies. Kinda appreciate that.
@felixmartinez1100
@felixmartinez1100 3 жыл бұрын
and viceversa
@mercyplayz9621
@mercyplayz9621 4 жыл бұрын
I uh..lost seth to 34% tomahawk hit...and didn't restart...does that make me evil or suicidal?
@felixmartinez1100
@felixmartinez1100 3 жыл бұрын
depends on which difficulty you were playing
@mercyplayz9621
@mercyplayz9621 3 жыл бұрын
@@felixmartinez1100 easy, because I was a noob then.
@kian9829
@kian9829 6 жыл бұрын
10:33 i'm sorry bench louise? her bases aren't all that i get it, but by doing that you're pratically putting pent at a disadvantage as he missess out on some atk and avoid making it him less reliable to be on the front lines and yes i know louise has be within 3 spaces but she gets buffs from the support making her actually pretty good at times as she has enough speed to double for the rest of the game and the atk bonus is great for her making her able to one round or bring some enemies down really low. i know you haven't played 1-5 but wtf no siggy or dagdar
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 4 жыл бұрын
Louise isn't bad, but the many better units combined with limited deployment slots make it so the boost she gives pent are not enough to justify fielding her most of the time, especially when pent still does fine without her.
@michaelbainbridge7335
@michaelbainbridge7335 6 жыл бұрын
Will you do top 10 Pegasus Knights in Fire Emblem?
@Robin_hood27
@Robin_hood27 6 жыл бұрын
Erin being 1
@michaelbainbridge7335
@michaelbainbridge7335 6 жыл бұрын
@@Robin_hood27 I dunno, I feel Vanessa is 1.
@KindredFenrir
@KindredFenrir 5 жыл бұрын
Seth really does just T pose through the game and destroy everything in his wake
@poisondamage2182
@poisondamage2182 5 жыл бұрын
Since a lot of the names of characters and weapons in FE are either scandinavian or german, i'm guessing Duessel is too "ue" can be used instead of the german "ü". If that is the case, you pronounced it pretty alright.
@presussy
@presussy 5 жыл бұрын
Not really, in German he is weirdly enough called Duenell which is more English than anything
@poisondamage2182
@poisondamage2182 5 жыл бұрын
@@presussy That's not what i ment. I mean sure, it's weird that they renamed the character, but in the english version he had a german sounding name. and for someone who's not german omni did pronounced pretty well since. i just said that because he said he hoped that he didn't butcher the name.
@presussy
@presussy 5 жыл бұрын
@@poisondamage2182 yeah it's ok. Is just that the name is not really german but more Dutch like
@jibachu7
@jibachu7 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that changed fast. When we have a game people are pissed about delay and a game people wants to be delayed
@bandi642
@bandi642 5 жыл бұрын
catherine might be broken if you explote her in three houses
@saphiriathebluedragonknight375
@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 4 жыл бұрын
She comes with a Hero's Relic. Enough said. No going through some annoying paraloug.
@Robin_hood27
@Robin_hood27 6 жыл бұрын
Even though you haven't played Fe4 I'd say that Briggid was a good pre-promote especially with her Weapon the Yewfelle.
@Mattroid99
@Mattroid99 5 жыл бұрын
But seth is great in Heroes too .. he simply needs a prf to really stand out (Hoping for nothing lame af like Gem Weapon + Def Tactic)
@DeezNuggitz
@DeezNuggitz 5 жыл бұрын
Duessel wasn’t even close to strong enough when I recruited him compared to my team wym....
@sonicthehedge
@sonicthehedge 5 жыл бұрын
Hawkeye? one of the best pre-promotes as he starts with alot of HP, has high enough hit to not keep missing, can through water tiles and he's berserker that COMES WITH KILLER AXE!!!! SO PREPARE TO KILL ANYONE WITH THAT 50-60% CRIT! tbh in all of my Fe7 playthroughs I end up using him over pent. he much more fun to use and that crit animations is so satisfying
@kickassyoshi1
@kickassyoshi1 6 жыл бұрын
PoR titania is best then seth with all the available skills like sol, adept, warth, resolve (runs away) and i forgot super canto and also forges (runs again)
@cruelcumber5317
@cruelcumber5317 5 жыл бұрын
I like how you consider 25% true hit to be so low that it's frustrating to get hit by that, when 25% isn't *that* low of a chance to get hit. It's not high by any means, but it's far from some strange anomaly.
@CptJackDaniels9076
@CptJackDaniels9076 5 жыл бұрын
Yessssss Marcus got a shout out xD. Totes a real Jagen
@philhartmann6502
@philhartmann6502 3 жыл бұрын
Largooo for being the only berserker, also Frederick because you can make him a level 1 cavalier and the khans because if you do the same thing they become invincible
@eclipse9727
@eclipse9727 6 жыл бұрын
Is Jaffar not good enough for this list? Or is there something I’m missing here..
@blitz4779
@blitz4779 6 жыл бұрын
He's good. But being in one of the chapters in FE history and you'll likely have a full team by then. So he's more of a choice to use him.
@eclipse9727
@eclipse9727 6 жыл бұрын
The worst chapters, I think you wanted to say. Even still, that's a fair point..
@blitz4779
@blitz4779 6 жыл бұрын
@@eclipse9727 yeah that. Thanks man
@eclipse9727
@eclipse9727 6 жыл бұрын
No problem.
@tijnvannelmen5832
@tijnvannelmen5832 6 жыл бұрын
Jaffar isn't all that great tbh, his greatest strength is his combat, he performs really well in 1 on 1 fights, but this isn't something exclusive to Jaffar, to name a few; Raven, Harken Marcus, Sain, Kent, Florinna, Pent, Heath all do the same, while still having the option to use Hand axes / Javelins, making them far more efficient at taking down groups of enemies (Not to mention many of them also have more move, canto, and/or flying utility. all in all, Jaffar at his best performs as well as the other "high tier" units in FE7, but ultimately lacks any versitility to make him stand out. Flashy and fun, but certainly no contender for this list if you ask me. (Not to mention his recruitment)
@wubduw
@wubduw 5 жыл бұрын
Sauce for pic at 21:21? For research of course :)
@sauce4279
@sauce4279 5 жыл бұрын
Then why don't you reply that?
@juicedkpps
@juicedkpps 5 жыл бұрын
I actually have to agree on how amazing Pent is. I deployed him in Victory or Death as a filler unit, without any training beforehand or any investment. He still did most of the work. And Duessel! Ephraim route Duessel! He's really gonna carry you through that boat map more than anyone else.
@domc8089
@domc8089 6 жыл бұрын
What the hell are you smoking? Xander isn't slow.
@Juan-zs6jt
@Juan-zs6jt 6 жыл бұрын
Xander is slow is the new "Jagens are bad."
@maxmoroney4607
@maxmoroney4607 6 жыл бұрын
Xander always seems to get speed-screwed for me, especially in my Revelation runs, so I guess I can see why people don’t see him as great.
@domc8089
@domc8089 6 жыл бұрын
@@maxmoroney4607 3 words. Meals, rallies, tonics. This is how Xander can jump out of his inherit base spd, even without gaining a single level up in spd. In 0% growths, he can ORKO Takumi using Zerker!Corn pair up and Brave Sword strats. If you don't believe me, there is a video by a guy named Blue SS1
@Juan-zs6jt
@Juan-zs6jt 6 жыл бұрын
@@maxmoroney4607 Xander can quadruple ORKO Takumi in Conquest Lunatic 0% growths. Brave Sword + speedwing + meal + Charlotte pair up + speed tonic. Lets not forget how bulky he is and how he has a good 1-2 range weapon in a game where 1-2 melee weapons suck.
@KratosAurion7777
@KratosAurion7777 6 жыл бұрын
15 Base speed is slow , and it will come back to bite you in lunatic . Meals since they are random are often considered " cheap " and go against the point of conquest like any random thing in MyCastle . But even with that you are right , a Tonic and a good support will at least put him out of the way of getting doubled and he is still able to one round things with a Brave Spear or Sword .
@sean3920
@sean3920 5 жыл бұрын
I never understood how you haven't played Shadow Dragon, yet you're privy enough to the victory tune that you use it in all of your videos
@shadeslayerzycron6209
@shadeslayerzycron6209 5 жыл бұрын
I usually turn Camilla into a Berserker with Aplus rank alongside Beruka. I don’t like her that much but she wrecks with that s rank hammer
@corsicasanova
@corsicasanova 5 жыл бұрын
Marcus lvl1 is usable in the last chapter just saying. Also usable to feed kills.
@inaki8014
@inaki8014 3 жыл бұрын
Where's sigurd?
@sam7559
@sam7559 6 жыл бұрын
6:02 was that Rank10Yugioho
@lukekinder4959
@lukekinder4959 6 жыл бұрын
I think it was my 2nd playthrough of Raidiant dawn when I was a teenager that I learned haar is a god. I dumped all my bonus xp into him and basically was set. Not the best actual strategy, buuut, it was fun, and left me with some awesome memories of him.
@hauntershunter5336
@hauntershunter5336 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with the joke introducing Seth as number one, because no one f***s with Mr. Popo!
@butteredsalmonella
@butteredsalmonella 5 жыл бұрын
10:37 Ha! She didn't level up speed again!
@DarkusFireBlaze3582
@DarkusFireBlaze3582 5 жыл бұрын
A problem I have with this video (the video, not the list) is that it works under the assumption that a unit's only worth is in combat. The whole rant about Micaiah doesn't even mention her early healing utility or even Pent's during his section.
@andyknightwarden9746
@andyknightwarden9746 5 жыл бұрын
My biggest problem with Camilla is that ridiculous outfit. "Oh, let me wear an armored leotard, which doesn't cover or protect the massive blood vessels in my THICC thighs, and oh, I know, let's negate the entire point of a breastplate by baring my massive... tracts of land, which I'm sure the enemy will drool over rather than, say, stab me there." Whoever thought of the outfits in Fates needs to be shot, tbph. They're hideous, the armors are inefficient for what they do, and apparently the designers are too arrogant to study real armors or consider how the armor they've designed would actually move.
@Ese1Pac
@Ese1Pac 5 жыл бұрын
I remember Pent was a straight BEAST in the game. He was my second favorite in the game right next to Hector the GOD
@thewindysage1538
@thewindysage1538 5 жыл бұрын
15:39 Actually Karel has better (hp) (strength) skill and speed (On normal mode only) I know Karel is in the army for 2 chapters but it's still true
@acsu96
@acsu96 6 жыл бұрын
I got rather frustrated at this video, because it's a decent list...but it could be a really good video. In addition to the idea that FE vets consider Jeigans bad being a total strawman (as mentioned in comments below), my biggest issue is something common to all FE analysis videos: analysis of numbers and stats without context. All the time, I see discussions about bases and growths, but always in a vacuum, or in some vague sense like "oh this is enough speed to nuke everything". Speed values are very different through different games, for instance. FE7 has enemies with very low speed, for example, and infamously have a speed trough in the mid-game when they wield Steel weapons that drop their AS. This makes analysis of FE7 Marcus already very different from even FE6 Marcus, much less FE9 Titania, so I was very confused why they were paired together. I don't really have any issue with any of the prepromotes listed as being strong (other than maybe Duessel), but there is definitely a focus on raw combat over other important factors like MOV and utility. Some notable omissions I would highlight would be Cecilia, Niime and Yoder are all VERY strong prepromotes in FE6 due to staff utility and the game's Warp formula, etc. Notable omissions from FE7 would be Isadora and Vaida, who provide good base weapon levels, high mov and rescue utility. In FE9 I would probably argue Tanith is better than Stefan, providing flying utility, the unique Reinforce skill, and slightly worse but comparable combat. Finally I think Frederick's role in higher difficulties of FE13 is very very important.
@JaidynReiman
@JaidynReiman 2 ай бұрын
This is an old video and comment, but this: "FE vets consider Jeigans bad being a total strawman" I absolutely DID see this idea online all the time many years ago when I first started playing FE games (namely around the time the series started growing in popularity in the west due to Smash Melee). I always saw this argument early on, but over time it shifted into the common opinion you see nowadays where Jeigans (and most prepromotes in general) are the most important unit in every game in most cases. I don't know when exactly this shift happened but it might have been through more hardcore play of the older games that this opinion shifted. I think even five years ago when this video was made, however, this opinion had already long-since shifted away from the classic idea of "don't use the Jeigan they fall off" into "always use the Jeigan". Prepromotes on the other hand vary as it really depends on their bases. Often times a leveled up starting game unit will out class the prepromotes by the time you get them. That's how it usually should work, but then you get the Perceval or Pent who just destroy the competition. Prepromotes should be crutches you need to fall back on if you lost too many units. It'd be interesting to see this list updated with Three Houses and Engage in mind... Pandreo and Kagetsu are both broken as are Catherine, Seteth, and Jeritza in Three Houses.
@jrny20
@jrny20 5 жыл бұрын
I've always thought Duessel resembled Charlton Heston from The Ten Commandments.
@ahyes9470
@ahyes9470 6 жыл бұрын
“He is the best user of grado’s sacred twins the garm axe” *gerik Garcia*
@ahyes9470
@ahyes9470 6 жыл бұрын
Gonna have to disagree with sothe. Yea most dawn brigade untis aren’t that amazing *edward fiona meg leo get out* bu nolan zihark jill are damn good. Hell if you can position micaiah she can dish out high damage or just one shot cavalry and armors with thani, and well....sothes str cap SUCKS! Plus a worthless mastery skill 9/10 Times
@Koppu1doragon
@Koppu1doragon 6 жыл бұрын
Gerik and Garcia require a large amount of effort to train up to the point that could actually use it, easier to just give it to Dussel While they would likely have better stats by the point where they could use it you really don't need Garm for anything but killing Draco Zombies and Demon Kings. As for Jill being 'Damn good' I have to disagree, no matter how many times or which game I tired using her in she's always be completely worthless even more so when you got Haar. She has never been worth any investment I put into her so I just bench her anymore. As for Sothe I agree he's good for the first part, as was explained, he's worthless in the later game but he's really useful for getting through part one and after Part one you don't REALLY need him and after part two you can just bench the whole of the Dawn Brigade
@ahyes9470
@ahyes9470 6 жыл бұрын
Didn’t actually expect a reply, alright time to try and phrase this decently. True Garcia and Gerik do take a lot of effort (well in geriks case just his axe rank) but I also tend to not really use duessel or great knights to often so...yea might e been a little far fetched on my part Jill on average is very good, personal experience shouldn’t really be used as an argument, best to go off her averages. And bonus exp makes any unit viable Fair enough on sothe. He’s just never useful outside of part 1 (I’ve never played RD hard mode because it sounds more BS to me) but by part 3 you should have pretty good DB members
@curiousgerado197
@curiousgerado197 6 жыл бұрын
Halvos Jill and Haar literally shouldn’t be competing against each other until that last act of the game, and she’s vital in making the Dawn Brigade maps in Part 3 more manageable. Wyverns are broken in this game, the end.
@Koppu1doragon
@Koppu1doragon 6 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to disagree because as I said Jill literally has never been worth the time or exp I put into her, always being too weak to do anything more than ferry people around. I do not know if this is because of bad RNG giving her bad stats or if if she's just a bad unit that needs stat boosts to be usable.
@Ruffles2255
@Ruffles2255 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty neat units
@unaiestanconapelaez2526
@unaiestanconapelaez2526 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is very late but the funniest part about seth is that he is canonically held back by not being completly healed of the wound he took at the beginning of the game.
@Hats502
@Hats502 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty good but some things I want to note Stefan: vague Katti is basically a prf for him for a long time, only sword users you’ll probably use are Ike and Tanith. Also astra is great mid game until enemies become bulky Duessel: biggest thing he does is tank the shit out of the boat map, those weapon ranks are god tier Titania/Marcus: not number 1 and “exp syphoning” they are guaranteed to be a top tier unit Cecilia doesn’t suck, she’s a fantastic utility unit Sothe: uhhhhhh you have Jill and she becomes a god for later parts have her get some kills Rip no Tanith or Niime
@KillerSmile559
@KillerSmile559 4 жыл бұрын
In my first play-through of Birthright, I didn't even use Ryoma. Everyone else was already shredding through the game.
@MasterJP28
@MasterJP28 3 жыл бұрын
I get that old FEs are not enjoyed by many but there is literally no better prepromote than Sigurd.
@ginrodino8542
@ginrodino8542 4 жыл бұрын
Sothe at number 3? Yikes. I agree that he's basically the only way through part 1, but he's not even super broken against the enemy units.
@maximumedge3833
@maximumedge3833 6 жыл бұрын
I mean Quan is pretty good since he's good at covering whatever weak points Sigurd may have and once he gets Gae Bolg he can one shot any enemies he touches for the remaining chapter.
@astralguardian5930
@astralguardian5930 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't played it myself but I've heard tell. And also remember that back when he made this video he hadn't played FE4 and FE5, so no Jugdral units.
@mikeydubbs8565
@mikeydubbs8565 Жыл бұрын
@@astralguardian5930 you really have to get around to playing in FE4 is my favorite Fire Emblem game. Sure, I could see how people who weren’t born in the 80’s or early 90’s and didn’t grow up playing SNES could have trouble adjusting to the graphics, but the gameplay and story more than makes up for it
@astralguardian5930
@astralguardian5930 Жыл бұрын
@mikeydubbs8565 To play it though you need an emulator and honestly I don't know if I have the patience, I could still try it sometime but I'm not too certain.
@PumpkinFox
@PumpkinFox 5 жыл бұрын
I would argue that Seth has the same complaint as Ryoma in which you don't need him, but still a very good video.
@Regunes
@Regunes 6 жыл бұрын
Putting jaffar in the thumbnail -> Finally not mentionning him. Nice
@joekerssb302
@joekerssb302 6 жыл бұрын
I’m Camilla trash too (: I love how broken she is
@JamesJohnson-kb8jr
@JamesJohnson-kb8jr 6 жыл бұрын
Same saves my ass in chapter 10 so many times
@zavinzagg
@zavinzagg 5 жыл бұрын
I mean seth, titania and marcus are not jaggens they are oifey achetypes meaning they have good growths
@LittleAl016
@LittleAl016 5 жыл бұрын
No, they're Jagens. Especially since the original Jagen has no problem lasting long in his game.
@shadedhydra6674
@shadedhydra6674 6 жыл бұрын
I never hated Prepromotes but never used them much with some exceptions until FE7 Hard Mode, Pent and Louise are the King and Queen of good Prepromotes. Plus Harken, Karel, Jaffar, Isadora and Hawkeye who made it so I didn't have to waste exp on training up other units.
@shadedhydra6674
@shadedhydra6674 6 жыл бұрын
Docaccino She saved my ass a few times during that playthrough especially against some of the mage bosses like Sonia and Limstella in the late game.
@shadedhydra6674
@shadedhydra6674 6 жыл бұрын
Docaccino Yeah I agree, she's no where near great, hell not even that good on her own but I see her as the best of the three possible Snipers due to her low investment when compared to Wil and Rebecca. The things that made me like using her in my run was using her with Pent a bunch, dealing with annoying fliers and those mage bosses. She's not good I just found ways to make her contribute to my run.
@thereaIitsybitsyspider
@thereaIitsybitsyspider 6 жыл бұрын
Louise is far and away the best sniper in FE7. She comes competent and has usable stats. Her best feature is her free support with Pent, which means using her makes the already amazing Pent better.
@darthr0xas363
@darthr0xas363 6 жыл бұрын
@@thereaIitsybitsyspider Sure, but being the best of a class with no enemy phase, in a game where more than half the action is on the enemy phase isn't that good. Her support, while useful, is both a plus and minus, since it means keeping up with Pent, and thusly always being in danger
@tackthewise6421
@tackthewise6421 6 жыл бұрын
Harken is just a better Karel tbh. Karels speed is reeeeally overkill
@NimhLabs
@NimhLabs 5 жыл бұрын
Knife Jagen is now a term.
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