I didn’t know about the “cats in the Dark Forest walk alone” thing, but now I like to think Tigerstar said that just so Darkstripe would leave him alone

Cinderpelt: *is reincarnated because she *obviously* didn't have a good enough life* Swiftpaw: Am I joke to you?

fun theory that leafpool felt so much grief over ashfur because she was feeling the overwhelming emotions from squirrelflight due to their connection

Fans: Hey so, how about Sol? Erins: Who?

Tigerstar: "Don't try to follow me. Cats have no friends or allies here. They must walk their path of shadows alone." Also Tigerstar a few books later: We shall make a group against everyone

Cinderpelt: loses the ability to move one leg, becomes a med cat Starclan: omg we need to give her another chance Briarlight: loses ability to move her whole lower body and just kind of exists in the clan, not a warrior or med cat Starclan: who's that again?

It's a wonder how they can forget about all of these things with such potential and instead of writing about actual good ideas they make more books about traveling to the _tribe._

Fans- Can we learn what happened to Sol? Erins- another book about the Tribe? Of course!

What about yellowfang being able to feel other cats pain

If Millie was vaccinated, it makes sense why she would lose the immunity after a year. Some vaccines/meds work only for a year (for example: vaccine against rabies) and they have to be re-done every new year.

I think Tigerstar lied to Darkstripe about walking alone because literally no one in the dark forest likes him and it gets mentioned how much he annoys everyone there lmao

Starclan: here you go Cinderpelt a sacont life Snowkit: what about me Starclan: you alredy had your chance!

I’m now fully convinced that the whole “forgotten cats fading” thing is actually outside of canon and just an excuse for the writers when they forget about cats

This is what happens when there's little to no communication between authors

I miss the idea of Lionclan, Tigerclan, and Leopardclan. Imagine if these cool wild cat ancestors where the higher power that gives starclan prophecies and nobody sees solid evidence of their true existence as they are so detached from current clan cats that they prefer to simply create prophecies and such, much like the nightwings during the dragonet prophecy arc or wings of fire.

I feel like it's also forgotten that Sorreltail and Leafpool were best friends, if I remember right, Leafpool choose Sorreltail over her own sister to help her find the moon pool in the new territories, and after that I don't remember their friendship being mentioned again Also the group of loners that were found when Hollyleaf and a group of other cats went into two leg territory to try and find Sol, and that one of the she-cats was deeply in love with him, wishing her kittens were his

Deaf Snowkit had a sister named Mistlekit, IS NO ONE GONNA ACKNOWLEDGE THIS? Edit: but seriously, I feel bad for Speckletail, she lost both of her kits from her second litter :’(

1.Imagine if the warriors writers forgot about Sol’s promise about coming back: that would be awkward 2.If Cinderheart/pelt was reincarnated shouldn’t Jayfeather be because he wanted to be a warrior?

"Leafpool X Ashfur" [Don't grab your tablet, don't grab your tablet, don't grab your tablet]

It’s insane how many medicine cats there are that originally were/wanted to be warriors, specifically in Thunderclan (goosefeather, spottedleaf, yellowfang, cinderpelt, Jayfeather, alderheart) But I guess cinderpelt was the only one who “was supposed to be a warrior” or whatever so she gets reincarnated

Imagine if Sleekwhisker and Sol teamed up

I believe Sol is still out there and they are going to bring him back somehow

I really want to see more of Sleekwhisker and the remaining Kin. Maybe they could group up with Sol?

The queens don't have to tell the father rule probably got ditched because in Bluestar's super edition Thrushpelt covered for her. That and I feel like that rule would easily cause the cats to question queens who don't have an obvious father.

Anybody remmeber when in first books everyone talked about Lionclan, Tigerclan and Leopardclan? That must be the most forgoten thing in books

Maybe Leafpool was so clearly sad over Ashfur's death because it's her job as a medicine cat to save and protect her clan, but she lost a clanmate in a way that she could do nothing about. The whole clan is her family, and it's her job to keep them healthy and alive, so that might explain why Jayfeather mentioned that her sadness was like that of a mother losing her kit.

Some more forgotten things: - renaming a warrior ceremony. Idk how often it happened before but Oneeye (I think ?) told Firestar about it, when he gave Brightheart her name - every aprentice had to travel to the moonstone at least once. Eversince they traveled to the lake, nobody travels to the moon pool. Are only medcats & leaders allowed now to talk to their ancients ? - giving tongues. It happened in the first book & never again - do aprentices still have to go through a final test, to prove they are ready to become warriors ?

It really annoys me how many things the Erins just dropped. Lionclan, Tigerclan, and Leopardclan hardly get any attention, the ancients, cool villains like Sol, etc. Honestly the idea of the Great Clans being above StarClan and sending _them_ prophecies and such is really cool, and I just wish the Erins did more with them. Yes, Lionclan and Tigerclan get their show in The Prophecies Begin, but apart from Leopardstar, Graypaw accidentally calling it Spottyclan, and of course Secrets of the Clans, Leopardclan got almost zero attention whatsoever. It's not fair that the Erins just forget or drop really neat or interesting concepts like this.

I have a theory on Leafpool and Squilf’s telepathy. I think that after it was no longer needed as much, the connection faded away. On the other hand, I agree with what she said about how it could’ve been helpful. I think that this plot point is little bit like how the Three’s power didn’t work anymore after the Great Battle. Correct me if I’m wrong though, because I haven’t reread some of these books in a while.

I've always found the Tigerstar and Darkstripe scene really funny for some reason. Like... they CAN meet up, they do it right there, but Tigerstar literally just says 'no no we can't do this it's not how it works' like dawg what are you talking about

A plot that didn't go anywhere was Leafpool's strong connection to Starclan being abnormal/mentioned as different. Besides finding the moon pool, I've always felt that Leafpool should've became Midnight and Rock's apprentice. Joining them and the ancients with a further knowledge of power Starclan lacks. I have an AU that Leafpool is behind the events of TBC, and is actually the cat with all the powers. Controlling Ashfur in the process. This is due to her being wronged by the code and Starclan and her death is pretty much Bramblestar's fault. She's actually the ones with powers. Ashfur being sent down to find Leafpool's ghost after Leafpool rejects Starclan and her body is too injured to return to leaving her as a ghost. Explains why Ashfur was sent in the first place (as one of the books mention him being sent to solve a problem or something, who better to send than they guy who nearly murdered your family to show Starclan is forgiving) Ashfur and Leafpool then team up to make the new villain duo. Leafpool's goal may be to gain a new body herself and finally get to be with Crowfeather or possibly her goal is just to change the code so no more are hurt like she was. Nevertheless, I feel it's fitting that Leafpool, once defeated, joins the ranks of Rock (spirit of the mountain) and Midnight (spirit of the sea). Now simply called Leaf (spirit of the forest).

For the Ashfur x Leafpool one. A good cover up could be the resemblance between Jayfeather and Ashfur. That’s like… the best I could think of…

Apparently, the writers never forgot Millie’s knowledge on how to talk to dogs. But, since there would never be any inter species alliance, there was just no use for it. Can’t remember tho

i don't think sleekwhisker was forgotten by the fandom, the amount of MAPs there are out there for her...

Number 11. Cody. I feel like she could have been so much more, but she just left. Cody could have been something like Millie, or Daisy, but she could have taken on a clan name. I know she was unable to have kits, but honestly, she could have stayed after the battle with the dark forest to look after the kits. Another thing they could have done with her is that when she disappeared, she could have returned when Skyclan came to the lake as a random kittypet that they took in. She also could have joined Darktail, but that probably wouldn’t have made sense- Back to the skyclan thing. She could have been the next medicine cat if the erins JUST REMEMBERED ABOUT HER. ANOTHER FORGOTTEN PLOT POINT: Mousewhikers little crush on Minnowtail. I wonder what could have happened between them? They even trained in the dark forest together.

I remember making this really weird convoluted theory that Rock was also Jayfeather

I honestly really want them to bring back Sleekwhisker

Idea: *The tribe gets decimated and never comes back except for Feather*

I never forgot Sol, He's my favorate, not only did he trick the clans into madness, he did it in a smart way with words and not claws, and when was in the war, when he made Windclan and Thunderclan fight, he was defeated by Hollyleaf.

The sister telepathy thing would have been fun to keep around! They're such good sisters to each other, and this power makes perfect sense for them, I don't get why it was scrapped so quickly.

Spiresight deserves get a super edition

HOW did the plot point of Slash end so weirdly in the Dawn Of The Clans? Like my guy tries to steal kits, fails, and then just leaves? I mean, COME ON. It would be cool if they continued his legacy through like a ancestor or something that passed on the knowledge of the clans, mother to daughter and father to son, kind of like the Skywatcher, but a lot longer. I think that forgetting about him was stupid, because he caused a lot of wreckage in the series. I don’t know, thanks for reading, sorry for using up your time. :P

I like that Sol and Sleekwhisker were listed as forgotten and now they’re favorites of the fandom

It’s dumb that it’s so clear that they don’t have a fact sheet for each character, which would make so much sense to see all the small things about their characters

I personally think Leafpool was just sad her clan mate died

Legend has it that Rock still waits in his cave, endlessly waiting to be mentioned in the books again...

Here are some more forgotten characters that I can remember: Smudge, Princess, Henry, Cody, Coal, and Hattie Hattie is a cat who was seen talking to Smudge in The Darkest Hour and came with Smudge when he decided to seek help from Firestar in Firestar's Quest. Smudge is a cat who begged for Rusty to stay as a kittypet but failed. He was seen talking to Hattie in Darkest Hour and went to Firestar for help in Firestar's Quest. He was later mentioned in Dawn by Cody. He is also my favorite cat and I wish he could have more time in the books. Henry was mentioned by Smudge in Into the Wild for capturing a Robin. Then Rusty just said how he just complains about bird because they disturb his dozing. Princess is Firestar's sister and appears in every TPB book except Into the Wild. Cody is a kittypet who was captured by the humans and temporarily joined the Clans and helped Ferncloud with Birchkit. She later left and never appeared again. Coal is a kittypet who was captured by the humans and later escaped after the big heist prison escape type thing and was never heard of or mentioned again.

I think I know the answer to Leafpool x Ashfur. In Leafpool's Wish, I don't remember the chapter or exact words for this, but I clearly remember her saying that she wished her sister had chosen Ashfur instead of Brambleclaw. She said this because she had seen Brambleclaw in the Dark Forest. Maybe Leafpool never trusted Brambleclaw and that's why she was sad when Ashfur died since Squirrelflight would always be Brambleclaw's mate. Also, that might be why she went against Bramblestar's word to not help any injured Sisters, because she didn't trust him. I hope that made sense and I'll edit this comment if I find the exact chapter and words Leafpool said in Leafpool's Wish.

I don’t really think Sleekwhisker and Sol are lost, they just left the clan territory lol

You know, I still really think that Midnight x Rock was cute, even if they aren't the same animal

*Sometimes, i wonder why people didint like sleekwhisker.*

Mille - I can speak dog :D Dovewing - my eye colour changed by accident Everyone - WOAH OMG DOVEWING THAT IS SO COOL WTFF

Fun fact, the cats fading when they die twice doesn’t even hold up. Spottedleaf was at Squirrelflight and Leafpools Starclan trial

i kinda hate how some of the really cool things were dropped, like yellowfangs ability to feel others pain literally and the squirrel-leaf telepathy

In a random "Warrior Cats facts" video I watched, it said the Erins had confirmed Sol with never return to the Clans. Ofc I have no way of proving this is true, and it might not be, but we don`t know. I think it`s more likely that whoever made that video thought Sol obviously wasn`t going to return, so they thought they could get away with claiming that the Erins had confirmed it. I do find it interesting that they worded it "to the Clans", though. That makes me think it could possibly be true, and Sol will return, just not to the Clans themselves. As much of a possibly interesting storyline that could be, I`m not convinced that`s going to happen at all. We still have no proper way of knowing for sure what will happen to Sol yet, so I guess we`ll just have to wait and see. Thx for reading!

I think that they remember Micah, as in they remember him as: 'That cat who had a fling with the first medicine cat' and not actually Micah, if that makes sense.

You forgot the Cloudtail Brightheart and Daisy thing.

The Ashfur and Leafpool dynamic could’ve actually been quite interesting had Leafpool actually developed feelings for him over time. How would Squirrelflight react? How would the three react if Leafpool admitted to it after Ashfur died? What if Ashfur and Leafpool had become a couple? Would that have deterred Ashfur’s actions, and made him more like Bumblestripe in the end? That’s a super interesting concept that I would’ve loved to see expanded further!

I would definitely rather have a Midnight super edition over Firestar’s Quest

The most forgotten thing was Stormfur x squirrelpaw. He said to himself that the way he felt for Brook was stronger than how he felt for squirrelpaw. HE LOVED SQUIRRELPAW AND I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT REMEMBERS IT

Yellowfang doesn’t want to be forgotten so she appears ALL THE TIME. You can’t forget someone who was nagging you.

Has really nobody noticed, that at one point rock said he was the first stoneteller ever, but a few chapters later he told Jayfeather to make Half Moon the first stoneteller ever?

"run" "no. i wont" "..." "please?" "no. go away" millie moment

For me a forgotten plot point (though I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who remembers it) is the relationship between Nutwhisker and Fernshade. In Yellowfang's Secret, Brightflower mentions them hanging out together and says she hopes they will get together in the future. Then, suddenly Fernshade has kittens and everyone is like "oh, they're Wolfstep's, aren't they?". And that's fine! She's not obligated to love somebody a few people were shipping with her moons ago. The thing is nobody acknowledges the gossip anymore. She literally gets pregnant, then everyone's saying "yeah, Wolfstep is the father, that's obvious". Brightflower never shows disappointment, Nutwhisker is nor jealous nor happy for his friend (they could be a "talked once and are shipped" thing though), everyone simply forgets.

A certain cat once said that “...we can keep our old friends alive with memories...” (aka Mothwing). She hit quite close to the truth didn’t she, even without a connection to StarClan

I honestly think telepathy was mostly a Starclan thing while they were apart Though it could’ve been a good plot point

I actually really wish the three though that Ashfur was their father for a while. They even could have confronted Leafpool about it, or jayfeather could’ve thought that he was his father cause he was grey like him, since there’s no other light grey cats of Leafpool’s age that i know of. (Crowfeather is dark grey, so he doesn’t count)

the “Leafpool x Ashfur” thing is clearly just Leafpool feeling bad that her actions led to Ashfur’s death. obviously there were no feelings and I’m sure Jayfeather realized that too once he found out what Leafpool did

I just want to tell (or remind) people that Sleekwhisker is Tigerstar’s great-granddaughter.

Honestly I don’t think the dark forest cats must walk alone was forgotten, I just think tiger star wanted darkstripe to leave him the f alone 😂😂

5:43 - i personally believe that leafpool was sad because she knows squilf will be sad, because squilf was once in love with ashfur.

i honestly always thought it was just jayfeather reading way too much into things about leafpool 'being in love with ashfur.' seems in character for him to jump to a conclusion like that tbh

I wish more queens maintained non-disclosure of their kits’ fathers or let it be more subtle like some toms love their kits and mates but others aren’t interested in fathering despite being the sires of litters and that’s okay. Also I came across an amazing point before that mentioned that not naming fathers in clan culture would’ve enabled the clans to have more diverse gene pools with queens mating to toms outside of their clans or outside of clans in general. With fathers having to be named and the code forbidding mates outside of their own clan, that means gene pools would be incredibly small and each clan is full of closely related cats with the most distant relationship between any two cats in a clan is a sort of cousin and probably not even a large degree of distance. Not to mention, imagine brothers to queens being really fantastic and enthusiastic uncles! Although that would’ve made the Dustpelt/Ferncloud situation… toxic at best by human terms that most go by. However, I used to head canon, and maybe I still do, that each clans’ tiny gene pool explains otherwise impossible genetic oddities so common in Warriors, not to mention, it means each clan could in fact be more like separate breeds with, perhaps, a bit more variety than most actual human-created breeds.

The Leafpool x Ashfur thing was just a misunderstanding on Jayfeather's part, I think. She was upset because she knew Hollyleaf had killed him. She concealed Hollyleaf's fur in the medicine den to save her daughter.

Good video! I didn't know about the Leafpool × Ashfur ship, even though I read the book! But I kinda missed the "Leopard-, Lion- and TigerClan" plot

Me and my friend came up with this theory: In the book Dawn, either Leafpaw or Squirrelpaw breaks the warrior code, (I forgot who) and after that, Leafpaw and Squirrelpaw loose their telepathy thingy. So whenever you break the Warrior Code, your power goes away. After Omen Of The Stars, Lionblaze, Dovewing, and Jayfeather all lose their power. Lionblaze and Jayfeather, because they were from a forbidden romance, and Dovewing because she basically married Tigerheart. Shadowsight, Dovewing and Tigerheart’s kit, got powers. All of which, were related too Leafpool.

I wonder if the new arc "A Starless Clan" is about Sol returning?

Cat ghosts are actually their secret gem half being their second life and the whole fading from being forgotten is a misunderstanding of either corruption or their universe glitching their existence even further than their sapience/partial gemness even is.

Sasha to erin hunter:Ur think millie,rock,sol,sleek whisker are forgotten? What about me

I remember someone went into the fact that Ashfur was in the medicine den after the fight with Badgers and they thought how Leafpool and Ashfur might have had a strong connection since then because of their lost loves and what could have been. That their emotional conflicts created something that might not have been love but a close connection. Like Bluestar's affection for Thrushpelt that could have been more but she left it at friendship

I would love a series called Dawn Of the Tribe, covering the ancient lake cats, and maybe Midnight. Maybe Midnight is the reason for StarClan and the Tribe of Endless Hunting?

Great video!

I’m happy you mentioned SleekWhisker because I was pretty bummed when she was forgotten too, I mean, she’s still out there with an various amount of the leftover Kin, so surely she’s still a threat? Especially with her chaotic, dangerous personality. I think she’d make a great villain- perhaps she’s been collecting more and more rouges to return to the Clans for another battle…but if the Erin’s choose to push her to the side, then I guess that’s what Au’s are for.

Cinderpelt just had her leg broken and she was sad because she can't be a warrior but then she became a medicine cat and Yellowfang had to feel the pain of her entire clan, watch her daughters die, had to leave her mate behind and watch her clan that were like kits to her be destroyed by her own son. And yet she dosen't deserve a second better life in the eyes of Erins.

Me: Please i want to know what happened to Sleekwhisker my beloved The Erins: Sleek who-

Wait. Leafpool haven’t you learned from your previous mistake? *cough* Crowfeather *cough*

For the telepathy, maybe that was a thing granted by StarClan to help them on the quest, and it's like the powers in Power of 3 where once the abilities have served their purpose, it's gone?

In the current arc, A Starless Clan, WindClan is basically forgotten by Erin Hunter. I don’t care what they do, but I hope they make WindClan interesting!

It annoys me that in the Great Battle in the Last Hope that they didn’t come together as Lionclan because it’s almost the same as Scourge and Bloodclan or the Great Journey. I feel like it should be something when all clans come together during a dark time they should be called Lionclan. I also really like that line “Lionclan attack” or hearing that.

What if Leafpool was especially sad about Ashfur's death because of her telepathic link with Squirrelflight?

Wow I looved the concept for this video!! I'd be happy to have a second part!

i have one!!! daisy being in unrequited love with cloudtail is never really brought up again

I found this 1 Minute after post!!!!!!

I never understood why Cinderpelt got a second life. So what if she had a bum leg from an accident she caused and couldn't be a warrior? What about Briarlight? She couldn't use either legs and couldn't even be a medicine cat!

Dogs: RUN! 😡 Millie: no Dogs: 😟 please?

9:15 some have theorized that Graystripe was reincarnated from Gray wing. He had two mates, a close friend (Thunder, Shadowstar, or Wind runner) one his mates died, he had a sickness or disorder (Gray wing had asthma Graystripe had an eating disorder) they were both deputy/leader at one point (Gray wing was Tall shadow’s deputy/assistant and Graystripe took over leadership in Firestar’s quest) And both their mother’s died

Fun fact: the telepathy between Squirrelflight and Leafpool was confirmed to be a gift from StarClan so that the travelling cats could stay in touch with the clans. It was also confirmed to have been taken away when Squirrelflight got back from the sea.

Tell me you didn’t forget Lionclan Leopardclan and tigerclan. How the heck does it fit in though?

personally, i believe the line with leafpool and jayfeather is great at displaying the juxtaposition between the two medicine cats’ views on life and their position in the clan. it is first stated in moth flight’s vision that a medicine cat is to love each clanmate with the same paternal protectiveness as a mother would have towards a kit - hence the line where jayfeather mentions leafpool’s sorrow as such. leafpool’s empathetic nature and maternal experiences allow her to understand and encompass that kind of platonic affection, whereas jayfeather has a much more difficult time grasping the concept. the line where he is assuming that leafpool may have loved ashfur as a mate is showing exactly where jay’s social shortcomings are. of course, he cares for his clanmates. but as one shown time and time again to be emotionally inept despite his abilities, it is unfortunately a bond he won’t be able to ever fully comprehend. the line could also be interpreted as jayfeather’s repulsion to a medicine cat taking a mate, which would set up - of course - the later plot point of him discovering his heritage (and perhaps his own short-lived infatuation with half moon).

Imagine if they kept the telepathy between Squilf and Leafpool. One of them dies and the other realize how quiet it is now. Or, one of them dies and it's quiet for a while before they can talk again via telepathy and the alive one is very excited about it ! And we realize that starclan cats have some code or something where they have to speak vaguely in dreams etc, but they act like a normal clan when not delivering propheties. I don't know if I'm clear enough, but wouldn't it be funny and cute to have Squilf say to someone "Leafpool ? Yeah she's hanging out with Firestar right now" (Or, Squilf is now able to hear Leafpool & co talk about the prophecies, however she is under the obligation to never talk about it - unless they already delivered the prophecie to ThunderClan, I guess -, and it's like a curse to her. If someone wants to write something with this concept, go on !)