I totally agree. I mostly play solo games or games that are playable solo (it is almost a requirement for me nowdays whenever I am buying s new game) and I think they provide a completely different experience than a videogame (which I find fun to play as well).

I would further add that while it is perfectly fine to consider the social component that most board games provide one of the main reasons (or even THE reason) to play, it is neither the case for everybody nor the only possible way to enjoy the hobby.

I got 51st State Master Set and Tiny Epic Galaxies at Origins and they both have very engaging solo variants. I have also been playing Samurai Spirit solo and it is also highly recomended.

While I play on the tablet as well, and there are games like Sentinels of the Multiverse that are even better that way, I still like the physical experience of shuffling, rolling dice, moving miniatures (I am a huge miniature colector) and just looking at actual objects instead of just a screen. I don't think it has to be one or the other, but you can enjoy both.

Because good video games are so much better _games_, than what board games ever are. Social interaction, people in the same room, over the same table, is what board games are good at. If I don't have that social interaction, even with one another person, there is no real reason why I would play an inferior game, when I can play a better one, and as a bonus have a far less hassle of setting up and cleaning the game.

"Box."

He's the star in every video.

The thing is that unless the game is real-time or otherwise timed, the clock is not part of the game’s internal economy. Points, money and number of rounds all are. So yes, the method of just stopping after a while with an arbitrary time limit is artificial in a way that those other things are not.

Exactly!

I believe Tom gave a good review of Mage Knight, but to be honest I think he cooled off on it.

Yeah, I don't know you would hate on something that brings interest to your hobby. Even when something is "bandwagon" that is still more eyes, more money, more interest on something you enjoy. So it, in general, isn't bad.

I think it's because TableTop doesn't do LOOOOONNNNGGGG games and only Zee doesn't like LOOOOONNNNGGGG games. Personally I have perchaeed several games BECAUSE I watched the game play on TableTop, whereas I have NOT purchased a number of games based on Dice Tower.

Yeah. I bought Nottingham BECAUSE TableTop made it look fun.

Yeah, I didn't understand what they were saying here at all. I stumbled into tabletop one day, and it is basically what got me into gaming. When I saw them play Sheriff, it went to the top of my wishlist. What did they do that in that episode that ruined it??? When I play I encourage people to play the roles and come up with silly reasons for what they are bringing in and whatnot.

Everytime he mentions that game the song starts going in my head...(Katie Lang)... It is on my, gotta play that sometime list.

LMAO

Probably because Caverna replaced it for him. But yeah, he still "likes" it.

i think is zee that hates agricola

Zee and Sam disliked it, I am fairly certain, but Tom liked it. Thus it could have been on Tom's list, but Caverna replaced Agricola for Tom.

It isn't 2013.

Thank you sir!

You are the mvp

John Grayson ;

Ok Zee too, you guys were both brilliant in that takedown.

Nico Boggs Disagree with all three of you. Codenames is a brilliant design.

I was hoping someone would cover it, I wanted another opinion, I am on the fence.

I first played on Board Game Arena. There is no zen. Those players are cutthroat!

prufrock1977 well, i kind of agree, that it can be cutthroat, but it just looks and the game flow feels zenny :)

That's clearly not what I said at all. Besides, why would they even need to give an example of something like that, much less point fingers (by name!) at a specific channel like Tabletop? Pretty sure every hobby gamer has had it happen at one time or another... we all know what they're talking about. I realize that for whatever reason, it's pretty much expected for "serious" gamers to look down their noses at Tabletop... but the Dice Tower is pretty much the flagship for board game media, and they should be better than that. It comes across as talking out of both sides of their mouths to see Tom "defend" Tabletop in is Q&As (correctly pointing out the huge number of gamers Wil has brought into the hobby, for instance) and then see them take cheapshots in other videos (especially hypocritical ones like this one).

True... but I've never, EVER seen anything in a playthrough video as embarrassing or annoying as Jason's behavior during Dark Moon. Because of it, that was the first marathon playthrough vid that the Dice Tower has posted that I turned off and decided to not watch the rest of (I did watch the second part, though, and was nearly as annoyed with him in DoW). Back to your original response... I do actually think it would have been better for them to use that as an example... they give Jason crap all the time, and "jokingly" bringing up Jason ruining Dark Moon wouldn't have seemed out of place at all (and would have shown people who didn't read Jason's apology on BGG that the Dice Tower peeps recognize the disaster that was). However, the main thing is... I just HATE when KZfaq channels take shots at other channels. I'd like to think they didn't mean to "call out" Tabletop... but Sam having to point out "Sheriff of Nottingham, too!!!!" sure made it seem like shots fired. The last thing we need is stupid KZfaq drama between boardgame channels. Besides, I'm still holding out hope that Tom will someday be on Tabletop!

@@WarpedLord This is a very old comment, but can you tell me what happened during this playthrough? Im really interested, but just listening to you talk about it has got me cringing. I cant even imagine.

Just never stand on a hive you might get stung!

Krimson62 it's a neologism which works.

Cut into pieces and make it a puzzle?

We never use the sympathizer. We just say, "pretend it's a human card."

In my last game I was the sympathizer and was throne in prison for 1/3 of the game, it was frustrating but still had fun.

With the expansions especially Daybreak, the Muntineer or with Cylon Leader any player count works. Daybreak throws out their argument completely..