I always hated that change

Loser

You can tell that Vader is *really angry* that Luke didn't join him - his own son rejecting him hurt the man underneath all that armour

Lucas has a strange understanding of human emotions. He doesn't get it that sometimes characters break appearance because of anger and whatnots.

Hello greedo said it i think, but yeah, its the best version by far

That'd be awesome

That sounds better

If they do release the non special editions, I hope that’s how they do it

million dollar idea

@Connor 64 A big menu would be just a minor inconvenience compared to getting all versions of each Star Wars movie and then editing them together.

As somebody who's never seen the original cut of the movie I'm actually pretty split. To me the idea of Han running them down only for them to hit a deadend and Han to be facing all of them is hilarious because it shows how quickly Han can get ahead of himself. The special edition is great because it "kind-of" does that but also makes the number of troopers a comical amount.

@@j.t.1280Both are funny in their own ways.

Ot fans cry about everything

@@aarkproductionswho are you talking about?

@@RULERZREACHF4N6146 Original trilogy fans...

@ethanlivemere1162 I love Maclunkey

“Maclunkey” is the worst possible swear word in Rodian. The f word in English doesn’t even come close to the sheer level of offense and disrespect it conveys.

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@@dw1419 *Huttese, but yeah.

@@dw1419 *Huttese, but yeah.

Even though it's totally believable, since Anakin was not that old when he died, as he was around his 40's. So Hayden was a better choice for the force ghost than Sebastian Shaw

@@sarveshnathan7559 I would forgive Hayden's Force Ghost if at some point during the sequel trilogy Obi-Wan's force ghost had appeared as Ewan McGregor.

@@moodyfingers7301 Except Obi-Wan died as an old man Anakin died at the age of 45

@@sarveshnathan7559 Anakin was burned to toast and went to the dark side at 22 years old. Those are 23 as a husk of a man.

@@sarveshnathan7559 well and Luke might actually know what Anakin Skywalker looked like as a young man, which a lot of people don’t think about. Nobody knew who that old guy was.

*Thunk*

Han could easily take 6 stormies, but an entire battalion is a stretch without the falcon

A logical change, and also much funnier.

As a kid I always saw it as the same joke anyway. Maybe adding a few more guys is a good idea, but I think the sheet amount they crammed through that door is silly looking.

*storm bonk*

That I understand but it feels out of place when he’s standing next Alec Guinness’ Obi-Wan

@@docplays6508 Yeah but Obi Wan never became a sith, so him being old makes sense since he was a Jedi at an old age

I keep trying to tell everyone that! But noooooo they don't listen to me!

I always see this argument used to justify the change but it doesn't make sense to me. Anakin was redeemed right before his death, so if he died a good man why wouldn't his force ghost project his current age?

He just hates the prequels

But it doesn't have the jedi temple and senate building on coruscant

@@corneliusevazan A small price to pay for no gungans screaming that they’re free

@@jackrinaldi9098 Wooooowwwww, no shit? That’s why it’s the best. No “Weesa Free”

I have the VHS version of ROTJ, I wish my mom didn’t lose the other two during our move

@@gplgs4640 did you ever think of editing it to remove the weesa free audio and keep the scene intacked otherwise?

Why he gotta make me miss something I never had??

It comes out so raw I love it, wish I'd heard it originally.

@@TheAdvertisement bu v

Same. Although the audio quality seemed oddly bad at that part, so maybe that's why they changed it.

Same here

Chadpatine

The Virgin 1980 Palpatine VS The Chad 2004 Palpatine

Chad Papa Palps

Haha thanks, took me a while to get it right

Perfection

I agree, and even though the actual Emperor is better, the original chimp-eyes one has that "wtf am I looking at?" vibe, but in a menacing way.

Yeah I can see that Having it more like his prequel appearances where the top half of his face is obscured with the shadow of his hood

@@orangegalen Chimp-eyes visuals, Ian McDarmid dialogue?

@@GlaceonStudios Or just more shadow on McDarmid’s face so there’s that air of mystery, like in the prequels or most of RotJ.

The problem is that even the original Emperor’s face before the Special Edition makeover is hardly shadowed and similarly exposed.

But Yoda talks slower before the clone wars started

​@@skibot9974The conflicts between the CIS and the Republic were still slowly growing though.

Agreed

😭

It's actually so confusing why they changed it. What was wrong with it? I'll never understand.

lucas has an issue with character over explaining the plot instead of relying on natural human quips and small talk. It's the same reason why he changed the "bring my shuttle" line as well. Lucas just doesn't understand dialogue and how people casually talk and speak at all.

I didn’t even know about that, that’s so sad

Therapist: Bushy eyebrow Vader isn't real, he can't hurt ya Bushy eyebrow Vader:

@@KaminoKatie *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*

agreed

In rebels he has one

not every change is bad. but so many of them are

I still think Lucas should give the original version of the movie to the Historic Films Archive

Anyone with a brain knows that they weren't all bad it's not a new opinion

I’ve always been of the opinion that the special editions are pretty good, it just sucks that you can’t actually see the original cuts anywhere anymore!

I honestly don't think they are bad. At all. Maybe because I never saw the original ones but the changes are fine (except for the han solo shooting thing, that one was just straight up trash).

Whoa, didn’t expect to see you here.

Ya have good taste.

I also have them, somewhere, now time to find the return of the Jedi and a new hope since The empire strikes back is the only one I got lol

Same

What's up checkmark?

Oh wow... nice attention to detail. Thanks for this explanation

Underated comment

@@koopaniqueno problem, just ask me any question related to Star Wars, I can answer it

How many hairs does chewbacca have 2:07 ​@@Jedigrandmaster6637

there should be.

Adywans Star Wars Revisited

Hal9000’s custom special editions, those and his Prequel edits are top-tier fanediting.

Idk

@@Pixentric where can I find these?

I like it too

I think it’s an ok change too. It’s like the ghost version of him is showing how he looked back when he was still considered a Jedi

Agreed, it shows who Anakin actually was as the series later developed

Yeah, it makes no sense to show what Anakin *wouldve* looked like at this time if he never turned, rather than showing when he was actually a Jedi

I too liked it though I wish he didn't give a creeper face in the scene. They needed to retake that.

My family used to have them but my mom recently got the new DVD release of the original trilogy

Same here

Same

@today was a good day SHUT UP, COMMENT BOT

I too have the original cuts in VHS, but i don't have a VCR

But the hair is exactly how he was when he was going through his dark side conversion. The original force ghost is a reflction of how Anakin could have looked had he never fallen to the dark side, to symbolize his redemption to the light. If you're going for "when he was still a Jedi" I feel you have to give him the Attack of the Clones look Hayden also has a weird expression, imo. He has a bit of a smirk, when he should feel more earnest and serene

@@amaryllis0 the smirk is just anakins personality

​@@Kcinthasun The personality that led to him turning to the dark side. Now that he's back to the light, he should be wiser and calmer.

I agree, however I dislike how brooding and moody he looks. I would've preferred if the direction had Hayden act more jovial like Shaw's original performance.

​@@CacoQueeni think Hayden's expression is the reason this scene is so controversial in the first place tbh

@@miguelpereira9859yep it looks really out of place in the scene, direction should’ve been improved so that it feels more natural with the rest of the shot but currently he looks at Luke with a creepy stare and has zero interaction with obi wan and yoda. A disappointing downgrade of a change.

also another bad Star Wars sequel

12:52 Or this MAKE IT REAL, DISNEY

I thought that the rights were owned by George and not Disney.

Would they though? What to market here, what toys to sell to 5 year old children?1

@@BenTheJMen he sold all of his rights to Lucas films to Disney in 2012

I agree and I disagree. I disagree on the part where if you ignore the prequels, Hayden would make sense. People wouldn’t like it being Hayden if they started out with the OT first. Luke would be able to recognize or put together that it’s Anakin but for viewers, they’ll be confused on why he’s young. I do agree that his ghost should be Hayden because of Anakin’s story is like now from when ROTJ came out. Continuity and story wise, Hayden makes more sense. If people are trying to say he should look old, he should look like a slighter older Hayden because Anakin was 45 years old when he died but he only aged badly due to him turning and the bad stuff that happened to him when he turned.

@@Deathpool_04 I watched the Original Trilogy first and then the prequels. And I do think having younger Anakin worked better than older Anakin, even if it is confusing as to why he was younger on first watching.

@@BratzRockAngels Yeah, to be clear, I wouldn’t say everyone would not like it if they started with the OT first. Still, I think I’ve said here but older Anakin would only make sense for out of universe reasons. For a lot people, they think “out of universe reasons” is more important than “in universe”. I understand why but I don’t think it makes sense.

He literally looks like that when Luke takes his mask off

@@S.T.E.E.Z.Y He literally doesn't. He has hair, eyebrows, no scars, no deformities, etc.

Same

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Palpatino, the Italian Palpatine

@@rattyeely true star wars fans call him Sheevino Palpatino

Imperatore Palpatino

Shadows of the Empire is canon to me.

@@DP12321 The Force Unleashed and Knight of the Old Republic are still canon to me.

@@brandonkrol I think KOTOR is going to be integrated into the new canon thanks to its upcoming remake

@@KaminoKatie Let’s hope so.

@@brandonkrol Dark Forces is also canon.

Same I watched them in "order" and seeing Anakin again was so satisfying

agree as someone who loves the prequel trilogy seeing hayden, and coruscant and naboo in return of jedi ending really made me happy

I also watched them in story order, so I really don’t mind Anakin being there as Hayden Christian

I honestly think having Hayden be anakin’s ghost makes a lot more sense. The only real arguments you could make for it to be Shaw is if you started with the OT and how they could’ve done it better. If you’re considering in the prequels and anakin’s story now, there is no reason for Anakin’s force ghost of him being old. I would’ve had Anakin be more happy and probably more emotional seeing himself redeemed and looking at Luke again alongside Kenobi and Yoda. Anakin was only 45 years old when he died. Why would he look like an old man? People say he got “healed” when he was redeemed and how that’s how he would look if he never turned but wouldn’t he still look like Hayden when he’s 45 years old and only looked like that because he turned? He turned to the dark side and was physically scarred. Another reason why it makes more sense to Hayden is that most of the characters who know Anakin would know of his younger self and before he turned into Vader. This even extends to when he was Vader himself. Whenever he thought of “Anakin Skywalker”, it was his younger self. Very little people knew Vader was Anakin. Luke did but it’s not like he’s dumb enough or doesn’t have some special powers to not fucking know that the young guy who appeared with Yoda and Kenobi, is his father. If anything, he should still look like a slightly older Hayden if people are wanting him to be old but his ghost shouldn’t look like an 80 year old man.

@@Deathpool_04 Yeah that makes a lot of sense

Yeah that is basically what actually happened

Yeah it's stupid. I want to see the real OT in Blue Ray. Like Lucas knows everyone loved the films the way they are so why change it for the worse. I will never understand the adding of pointless CGI and a bunch more changes and then never release the original versions of the films so to have your audience decide which is best.

@@CometStar100 The reason is dumb ego. Like how he keeps saying his favourite character is Jar Jar. He is butthurt about a lot of fans disliking his ideas.

Fair enough, that's the version of the films he wants to be shown, then they should be shown.

@@szabok1999 I feel like he's a little justified in being butthurt after receiving thousands of death threats over the prequels

Yes

The Kamino version of Attack of the Clone's menu showing Jango Fett scenes in the water always got me hyped.

Hell Yeah

Dude, the hate he got is complete unjustified. It's not right to hate the actor for not playing a likeable character. In fact Schaff said in his TFATWS video that he hates people who bullied Wyatt Russell online and he's doing the same here to Hayden. Schaff may make funny videos but I think he's a horrible person irl for hating on one of nicest guys in Hollywood. Now Hayden is coming back to acting in the Ahsoka show. I will hate for people like him to bully him like they did back then.

@@nicholascahyadi2770 calm down

Prequel fans have multiple seasons of clone wars to enjoy a good Anakin, we don’t need to see the second worst Anakin showing up in RotJ. But maybe if they age up Hayden or wait another 30 years then he can be put in

@@russellharrell2747 seems like no one agrees with you bud. He’s coming back in the obiwan and Ahsoka show and everyone is going crazy with excitement

@@BunchyPanther42 Nah there are a lot of people that aren't prequel fanboys that think his performance was terrible. That being said it would be nice if he proved himself and did a good performance in these shows.

I'm skeptical as to what showing there relationship adds. Them being somewhat friendly doesn't really build to anything and is never brought up again. It doesn't really change my understanding of the story in Amy way. You can argue it adds something, but I don't feel it's worth loosing the surprise of seeing jabba for the first time in episode 6.

If they were gonna add the Jabba scene then they should’ve cut down some of the lines from the Greedo scene. The Greedo scene was literally written as a replacement for the Jabba scene so they go through all the same talking points, so having both is dumb and unnecessary.

It doesn't add anything to their relationship. If you cut it out, the story as a whole doesn't change at all, and every piece of information it gives us was *just* given in the Greedo scene.

That was originally a cut scene from a new hope i think back when java was a human

@@Lanetgm Jabba was never meant to be a human, that was a myth. His human actor was just a placeholder, the scene was cut because they couldn't finish the VFX in time

I think Anakin being a different entity in the force is exactly why the change is bad. It undermines Vader's redemption.

@@Magmafrost13 Not really? Anakin "died" when he turned to the dark side and became vader, and anakin was reborn when he redeemed himself and killed palpatine. Its just symbolic.

@@EmmyEntropy2000 yes, but when Vader killed the emperor, he redeemed himself (and thus turned into a good Jedi again kind of). So it doesn’t really make sense that a like 20 year younger version of him turns into a force ghost

@@EmmyEntropy2000 yes, but when Vader killed the emperor, he redeemed himself (and thus turned into a good Jedi again kind of). So it doesn’t really make sense that a like 20 year younger version of him turns into a force ghost

@@David-iv3to Young anakin is just symbolic of him being a jedi again, its how he would have wanted to be remembered as a jedi, and its how he remembered himself as anakin. Force ghosts dont have to look like they did when they died, the ghost sort of gets to choose how they appear and its the form anakin probably would have preferred.

I like everything but Haden which I think ruins the trilogy and jar jar

what about all that shit added at jabbas palace?

@@suspiciousmoon4474 I said at the end, yeah that scene can burn in hell.

@@Yickerd Oops missed that one my bad

@@suspiciousmoon4474 no problem lol

Yes! Imagine how much money Disney could make without screwing us over.

That would be the best thing possible for Star Wars

Yep, he sure did say that. It’s a great idea that will never happen

why do you deserve a customizeable version of George's movie? What arrogance.

I always wonder what an alternate universe would be like if he still voiced the Emperor while Ian McDiarmid did the body, even in the Prequels and, sorry for bringing this one up, Rise of Skywalker; kinda similar to how Darth Vader, Boba Fett and Darth Maul were dubbed by another actor while the actors in the costumes and makeup did the physical acting.

Preeeeetty much.

In the UK we have U, Pg, 12, 15 and 18

Lmao I remember when people talked about Revenge of the Sith as "the only PG-13 Star Wars movie", oooh it's so epic and grand and violent and brutal, it's PG-13!

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@@RogueVader-lr1ql 😂😂

Why is Lucas so stupid sometimes

There's also the rumor that he, more or less, burned the og film reels so the only ones in existence are the og-state home videos.

Dont go pretending we have any real evidence that this is the case. And at least according to the head of the Lucasfilm story group, it isnt, and Disney is just "choosing to respect George's wishes" on the matter

@@cptTK421 I like to believe that there’s someone with well preserved copies of the originals out there, just waiting for Lucas to either change his mind or become one with the Force.

@@Magmafrost13 Disney respecting the wishes of someone? that would be a first.

Same

@fax L

@@generalkenobi302 GENERAL KENOBI. Your a bold one

Yeah, you can really feel his love emanating when he talks about it. And for Shrek for that matter but still.

Mine became worse, it's only fun when he talks about shrek.

If your watching this scene in the special editions, look at R2 in the background and you will see the difference

Then why didn’t they edit it to avoid breaking the pace in the original version? Was it technological limitations of the time?

@@deleetiusproductions3497 I guess since the other Biggs scene (where they talk about the nationalisation of the economy) got cut, this one had to go as well. The mention of Luke’s father at that point (after Ben‘s death) was unnecessary to the third act of this movie anyways, so they probably decided to delete the scene altogether. Still now, as nice as the scene is (edited or unedited) it kind of slows the movie down, so there might have been pacing reasons as well

Luke's father was planned by George to be Vader. That scene was cut from the original release due to being a continuity mistake.

@@ltb1345 By the time they got to filming, the Luke having an evil dad plot was already cut out. Like I said, they did film this scene originally with dialogue implying Lukes father used to be a different character.

yeah but this is not the prequels

@@grathem9789 cool

I agree--setting aside the audience recognition, it's who he was as Anakin.

@Topside’s Cinecade you just can't win with Star Wars fans, easily one of the most toxic fanbases there is

I could defend it because that version of Anakin never existed

@Topside’s Cinecade I would argue the old Anakin was better _because of_ continuity. Vader re-became Anakin before he died, so the last time he was "Anakin" was when he spoke to Luke before he died. Having Hayden Christensen there actually breaks continuity imo.

No fight is needed

also that ep IV jabba bit

I hate all the CGI additions to the Tatooine chapters in A New Hope. The animals look tacky as hell, that scene where the jawa gets yeeted by an animal in Mos Eisley is on par with Jar Jar tier stupidity. That scene with the CGI rock wall R2D2 hides behind from Ben Kenobi looks flat and one-dimensional and doesn't change the realism whatsoever. Would you include Han solo shifting in his chair to the right CGI? Because that's another awful computer-generated addition. The inclusion of Jabba as explained in the video. Honestly I would be so much happier if the Tatooine segement was left unchanged because it sucks.

Same. I think the song number at jabbas palace isn’t very good though

Oh yeah, he wasn't really the editor on the first few films, right?

The original version of Star Wars was actually a kind of a disaster that ended up being saved by Maria Lucas and the editing team

Yes the mistake is on her but you make it sound like she was a problem with the franchise when she is well known for having saved a new hope after the first showing was a disaster

​@@melvinlinderoth7108 That's a bit of a misconception, they were both heavily involved in the editing, wasn't just her. That mentioned showing was a very rough cut where most of the vfx/scenes weren't even finished/included and replaced with stock footage. There's a highly detailed video on this topic by "Nerdonymous" if you wanted to look it up, it's very good.

@@melvinlinderoth7108 Just correcting a mistake cause it seemed he truly thought George alone was responsible for everything.

So when he became vader he lost studs and wasn't a true Jedi anymore?(joke btw)

11:26 Fixed timestamp.

Sebastian Shaw you mean?

@@evandobrando3313 Yea, lol. I’m such an idiot. I’ll fix it now

It does make more sense for it be Hayden. With the continuity of Star Wars and Anakin’s story now, it makes absolutely no sense for his ghost to be an old man. Speaking of this they did Boba and Anakin in the special, I think they should redo it now. Temuera couldn’t give his best performance because he was supposedly delivering it over the phone and at a bad time. People also think he should use his new Boba voice. With Anakin, they should redo it because Hayden is closer to the age Anakin died and how they should make him more emotional having been redeemed.

@@Deathpool_04 Agreed.

@@Deathpool_04 How does it not make sense? He was an old man when he died. Obi-Wan doesn’t get to be Ewan McGregor

Aw that’s actually like really sad to think about. That there’s a whole generation of Star Wars fans who never got to enjoy the same experience we did, and that the powers that be could let them enjoy it too at any time, but they don’t ://

@@akorn9943 That’s exactly why they should be on Disney +

Yeah I’ve only ever seen bits of it in videos like this one. I don’t know if I would actually sit down and watch them all the way through but it would still be nice if they were available for those who want to

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You don’t want to watch them, the Special Editions are so much better to spit what all these nostalgiatards will tell you

I mean, Biggs looks older than Luke by like five to ten years. Couldn't a very young Biggs have met Anakin off-screen when Anakin went to Tatooine to search for his mother in AOTC? Maybe Biggs' parents were friends with the Lars family, thus also explaining why Biggs and Luke were childhood friends

That other Greedo is a different Rodian with the same outfit.

@@nmlegolol

Yeah I consider Despecialized the definitive, best way to watch the movies. They did such an amazing job on it!

If you dig hard enough you can find Despecialized versions of ESB and ROTJ also

the entire trilogy was done although imo the definitive editions of starwars are the 4k ones by team negative1 although they havent finished esb yet

He's done all 3 original trilogy movies I downloaded them from internet archive and have them on my PC and PS3.

@@LaserDiscWarrior3043 Can you please tell me how to download them?

I mean by that logic Hayden should be the only version of ghost anakin

Go for Papa Palpatine.

Better then ROTS too.

Well guess I'll just be killing myself then

"Well who's 'They'?! What the hell is an 'Aluminum Falcon'?!"

@@MistahFox you're wrong! How could you even say that?

“Sheev Palpatine” What a terrible name.

@@rimfire8217 Coming from the series that also brought you Kit Fisto, Sy Snootles and Elan Sleazebaggano, ol' Palps got off light

How did you do it?

@@musikafossora you would want to ask a person like Van Ling who designed the menus. He created them. I only know how to break them.

I’m really excited to see him in the Ahsoka show! I’m surprised he came back at all really but I suppose new prequel fans are allowing him to regain his confidence for the role

Plus in the original it’s like, “who’s the old man? I guess that’s Anakin?” It makes more sense to use Hayden because the audience instantly recognizes him as Anakin

@@nap0038 Don't forget that Hayden Christensen is coming back to play Darth Vader in Obi-Wan Kenobi. But it's nice to hear Hayden is going to be in the Ahsoka series.

The sequels need a special edition which remakes all 3 movies from the ground up lmao

SW9 special - removed everything

@@Kronos327 ye

I think Special Editions of the Sequel Trilogy could improve them

We need the extended phasma vs finn fight and Luke grieving han's death, cut a little bit of kanto bight or whatever that planet is called and fix the entirety of episode 9