Top 10 Greatest Men Alpine Skiers of All Time

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5 ай бұрын

The greatest alpine ski racers of all time. In the worlds toughest fis alpine ski world cup downhill, super g, giant slalom and slalom tracks.
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Ingemar Stenmark: The Swedish legend who won a record 86 World Cup races and two Olympic gold medals in slalom and giant slalom. Maybe the greatest of them all?
Kjetil André Aamodt : The Norwegian versatile skier who became the first to win four Olympic gold medals in four different disciplines, as well as seven World Championship titles
Hermann Maier : The Austrian powerhouse who overcame a motorcycle crash to win four overall World Cup titles, two Olympic gold medals, and three World Championship titles
Marcel Hirscher : The Austrian technical specialist who dominated the slalom and giant slalom events for a decade, winning eight consecutive overall World Cup titles, two Olympic gold medals, and seven World Championship titles
Franz Klammer : The Austrian speedster who thrilled the world with his daring downhill runs, winning the Olympic gold medal in 1976 and five World Cup downhill titles
Aksel Lund Svindal : The Norwegian speed king who won two overall World Cup titles, three Olympic gold medals, and five World Championship titles in various disciplines
Lasse Kjus : The Norwegian consistent performer who won medals in all five disciplines at the 1999 World Championships, as well as two overall World Cup titles and one Olympic gold medal
Alberto Tomba : The Italian charismatic skier who excelled in slalom and giant slalom, winning three Olympic gold medals, two World Championship titles, and four World Cup discipline titles
Jean-Claude Killy : The French pioneer who swept all three alpine events at the 1968 Winter Olympics, becoming the most successful athlete there. He also won two World Cup titles and four World Championship titles
Bode Miller : The American alpine skiing rebel who skied with his own style, winning two overall World Cup titles, one Olympic gold medal, and four World Championship titles in different disciplines
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@space_jack_flight
@space_jack_flight 5 ай бұрын
I find it difficult to compare skiers from different eras. The material has changed and evolved. Slope preparation is currently different and is also difficult to compare. There is no question that there have been many outstanding personalities who have inspired many people through skiing. They had a charisma that was not only defined by fame and success.
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
For sure! And amount of races and competetiveness of winning too
@stefanogalloni8219
@stefanogalloni8219 5 ай бұрын
Chi ha fatto la classifica? Le commesse di un negozio?​@@speedkingz
@JM-sq3ic
@JM-sq3ic 4 ай бұрын
A bit surprise too with a clear bias in this ranking, but that’s the point to discuss it, isn’t it?
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 4 ай бұрын
Yes, no ranking without a discussion
@stefanolongo8971
@stefanolongo8971 5 ай бұрын
What about Thoeni, Girardelli and Zurbriggen? It looks like a list done by a Norwegian fan 😅
@umbertoadami9337
@umbertoadami9337 4 ай бұрын
uno che mette kjus e aamodt davanti a tomba dovrebbe cambiare spacciatore. concordo su girardelli, thöni e pirmin. Siccome fare la top10 è veramente difficile io mi atterrei semplicemente al numero di vittorie totale (cdm, mondiali e olimpiadi). resta il fatto che se alberto avesse avuto la testa di un hirscher o di uno stenmark li avrebbe asfaltati tutti.
@vvvvvv6365
@vvvvvv6365 4 ай бұрын
Right, mate...
@jdubs9922
@jdubs9922 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. No way Aamodt is #2.
@christianvetsch7429
@christianvetsch7429 3 ай бұрын
was exactly my thought, as well 😄 Not to mention Zurbriggen or Girardelli but Tomba... okaaaaay 😄
@jsmith1746
@jsmith1746 5 ай бұрын
Very shocked five time overall WC champion Marc Giradelli did not make the list. Same with four time overall champ Pirmin Zurbriggen. In addition to being second and third, respectively, in number of overall World Cup titles, both were great all-around skiers, with wins in every Alpine discipline over the course of their careers (with the exception of Parallel, which was not run during their careers). None of the other Men who have won at least three World Cup titles have won in every event that was competed in their careers. Hirscher, in the lead with 8 titles, never won a downhill or combined event. Gustav Theoni, tied third with Zurbriggen, never won a downhill. Phil Mahre and Stenmark, both tied with three titles, never won downhills or super-G (super-G being added as an event right near the end of their careers).
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
You got a point. Will make a new one
@clemensschmidler9098
@clemensschmidler9098 5 ай бұрын
​@@speedkingzHirscher won a Super G
@giulianofranceschini3832
@giulianofranceschini3832 4 ай бұрын
And Tony Sailer 3 gold medals? And Gustav Thoeni? And Girardelli? You get a bad note and must remake your homework
@sunshinestate7840
@sunshinestate7840 4 ай бұрын
Where is Bojan Krizaj and Pirmin Zurbriggen and many more?
@igorek1982
@igorek1982 4 ай бұрын
Just posted my comment with the exactly same thoughts and found yours. Zurbriggen was something like Pete Sampras of tennis, not including him is a very odd choice and for me personally an offense. The same goes for arguably the most versatile skier of all time Marc Girardelli. All skiers in the list are amazing, but these two giants simply must not be omitted.
@fredrikstenberg8843
@fredrikstenberg8843 5 ай бұрын
Ingemar Stenmark. What a legend. The whole country of Sweden stopped for a while every time he raced. The way he managed to tackle the most difficult surfaces and courses in his very characteristic panther like style actually gave us goosebumps. Really miss these years of top alpine racing. Thanks.
@kiwibird2008
@kiwibird2008 5 ай бұрын
You can't be serious. Where is Pirmin Zurbriggen? Best Allrounder ever.
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Yes, will make a new
@nikjakopin9636
@nikjakopin9636 4 ай бұрын
@@speedkingz you forgot beni reich man
@adamoppenheim
@adamoppenheim 5 ай бұрын
Hard to understand the omission of Girardelli and Zurbriggen. Aamodt and Stenmark were the master artists.
@thomasjaneczek4120
@thomasjaneczek4120 5 ай бұрын
I miss Zurbriggen, Russi, Sailer, Schranz, Eberharter, Wasmeier and Giradelli on such a list
@willibaldpush6920
@willibaldpush6920 4 ай бұрын
Wasmeier under top 10?
@andaigner
@andaigner 3 ай бұрын
Wasmeiner is never ever top 10 of all time, no way@@willibaldpush6920
@davideberrone4332
@davideberrone4332 5 ай бұрын
you forgot Marc Girardelli, Gustav Thoeni, Pirmin Zurbriggen ......
@MH-wc2xd
@MH-wc2xd 5 ай бұрын
Must have been a Norwegian who made this video… not a single Swiss in the top 10?!? Oder matt currently already is in the top 5 and he is still racing
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Odermatt good. Zurbriggen should be there
@cain1011
@cain1011 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, the NOR bias is ridiculous. The only worthy NOR is Svindal and I put him 6th.
@fredericperrin3279
@fredericperrin3279 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree. A complete joke of a ranking. Some of these Norwegians I didn't even know. No Swiss.....really?
@arroe8386
@arroe8386 5 ай бұрын
I understand not including active athletes completely because it will likely make the video outdated immediately, but Zurbriggen is an absolute necessity
@lennartlindgren616
@lennartlindgren616 5 ай бұрын
Stenmark is on a level of his own. From an era when the World Cup compared to today, was the wild west. They changed just about every rule to slow him down. An absolute icon.
@SuperBechti
@SuperBechti 4 ай бұрын
What about Pirmin Zurbriggen with 89 podiums, his world champion titles, his Olympic gold medal and all the big globe trophies for wining the overall world cup ranking quite a few times?
@karlschrott2989
@karlschrott2989 5 ай бұрын
+Marc Girardelli, Pirmin Zurbriggen
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Good take, give you that. Why would you have switched?
@paolocolombo174
@paolocolombo174 4 ай бұрын
Italy stopped every time Alberto was at the starting line. He turned a sport watched only in the mountains to a sport watched nationwide. Miss you
@Nostromo2144
@Nostromo2144 4 ай бұрын
#1 in my books, always.
@erichgerber251
@erichgerber251 5 ай бұрын
Not including Pirmin Zurbriggen and Marc Girardelli makes this a very unreliable source!
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Kind of agree. Zurbriggen should be there
@cain1011
@cain1011 5 ай бұрын
Yes, I have Zurbriggen 4th and Girardelli 5th.
@saschalehmann2765
@saschalehmann2765 5 ай бұрын
The list is skewed in favor of Norwegians.
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Please give me your top 10. Will post on wall and see if people agree. In?
@kurtiauskambodscha8996
@kurtiauskambodscha8996 4 ай бұрын
If Hermann hadnt have his motorcycle accident, he would have been on the first place similar to stenmark or even better. He was such an extraordinary skier.
@weakrecession
@weakrecession 5 ай бұрын
These are the 10 greatest norvegian skiers of all time, with foreign participation. Every other title is ridiculous!
@fabriziopasi3243
@fabriziopasi3243 5 ай бұрын
Yes! 👍👍👍
@britteigen5461
@britteigen5461 3 ай бұрын
Norway is best🇧🇻🇧🇻🇧🇻🇧🇻
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Based on ski-db stats and who i feel were the best overall during their career. Taking into account age, comebacks, etc. Yes, Girardelli and zurbriggen should be there. But you can still argue for the other ones on this list
@willibaldpush6920
@willibaldpush6920 4 ай бұрын
And which two you take out? I fear you have to think about one or two Norwegians.
@randybaccio2407
@randybaccio2407 4 ай бұрын
I agree 100% with Ingemar, but really, no SWISS????? You must be joking.
@jjmuni
@jjmuni 5 ай бұрын
Somehow I still love the style of Stenmark.
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Crazy how he manages to wipe out ever single gate with his jumping
@sprintn918
@sprintn918 5 ай бұрын
Such Rock solid technique...not just as a racer but overall...good for anywhere, and all conditions on the mountain, not just in the gates. Phil Mahre too. You can see this solid technique carried over onto other terrain by Scott Schmidt.
@jjmuni
@jjmuni 5 ай бұрын
@@sprintn918 there are many who learned that way. I skied with Frank Worndl. Racer with fine success but bit of a wasted genius. If it wasn’t against the clock he was just playing the ground, like a dance kinda Art.
@mortenrollsen271
@mortenrollsen271 4 ай бұрын
Is Odermatt disqualified because he's still active?
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 4 ай бұрын
No, nearly there
@mightymuchachoarmylpmitkev5946
@mightymuchachoarmylpmitkev5946 3 ай бұрын
safe he will break stenmarks record he has 12 gs in a row 2 more to go easy 🤦‍♂️​@@speedkingz
@cobra1010
@cobra1010 5 ай бұрын
Good list, but Marc Girardelli and Pirmin Zurbriggen must be on this list too! As well as Edgar Grospiron, the mogul master!
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Zurbriggen and girardelli will be on next time
@felipegomez4551
@felipegomez4551 4 ай бұрын
And Didier Cuche, 5x winner of Kitzbühel
@LightSnowOvernight
@LightSnowOvernight 5 ай бұрын
What about Austrian Toni Sailer? He won all the alpine events (Downhill, GS, Slalom) by HUGE margins in the 1956 Olympics (much greater margins of victory than Killy in 1968). I was fortunate enough to get his autograph when he visited Ottawa in 1964.
@user-qp8go3ss2d
@user-qp8go3ss2d 5 ай бұрын
exactly, he is the GOAT for sure. Greatest to the author of this video apparently means you have to be from Norway and time frame is last 30 years.
@skiphayden
@skiphayden 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@roberttreborable
@roberttreborable 4 ай бұрын
He later designed many of the runs in Appi-Kogan, Japan which still proudly bear his name...
@roberttreborable
@roberttreborable 4 ай бұрын
Totally agree Ingemar Stenmark is rightly at the top of the list
@ZiggyBoon
@ZiggyBoon 5 ай бұрын
Top 10 All Time lists are tough to compile because there's always disagreement about why somebody or another isn't on the list. But there's usually not much disagreement when it comes to the very top of the list, e.g. who's the greatest, who's the GOAT. Alpine skiing ... Ingemar Stenmark.
@renemachtanschmee7583
@renemachtanschmee7583 5 ай бұрын
for me hirscher was the best of all Time 😍🇦🇹
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Dominated his time
@renemachtanschmee7583
@renemachtanschmee7583 5 ай бұрын
@@speedkingz yeah really craazy but stenmark and all the other guys was also really strong 🤝💪🏻
@cain1011
@cain1011 5 ай бұрын
I have him at 2nd behind Stenmark. Stenmark was robbed of ALL globes due to the rules back then.
@jimhays2772
@jimhays2772 5 ай бұрын
Love this list. The best skiiers I've seen live are Stenmark and Shiffrin. FOR Men my faves are Stenmark, Phil Mhare, Tomba, and the HERMANATOR!
@rudinkonstantin9007
@rudinkonstantin9007 4 ай бұрын
A interesting list with a lot of norwegian touch.... I clearly miss on this list Marc Girardelli, Pirmin Zurbriggen, Gustavo Thöni, Toni Sailer and Marco Odermatt !
@sivayamsiva9343
@sivayamsiva9343 5 ай бұрын
Excellent performance, congratulations to all wonderful participants 👌👌👌
@amypatenaudegunn3322
@amypatenaudegunn3322 5 ай бұрын
Great video. Fun to watch. Difficult to pick just ten
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
For sure, some has to be left out, everything just opinions, can argue for both. Thanks
@francospaventi3937
@francospaventi3937 3 ай бұрын
You forgot Gustav Thoeni, a legend of the ski
@SimenFulland
@SimenFulland 4 ай бұрын
Lasse Kjus did something I don't think will be repeated ever in alpine skiing. In the Vail world championship in 99, he got a medal in all 5 events. 3 silver and 2 gold medals. Gold in Super G and Giant slalom, silver in the downhill, combined and slalom. Still can't believe he pulled that off....;-)
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 4 ай бұрын
And that's one of the reasons he's here. Too many forgot how of good of an allrounder he was
@christianvetsch7429
@christianvetsch7429 3 ай бұрын
@@speedkingz speaking of good allrounders but not mention Zurbriggen and Girardelli..?
@tombarbeausr7022
@tombarbeausr7022 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, great conversation starter, how about Stenmark, Hirscher, Killy, and Girardelli. The rest may argue for the other spots.
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Killy was number 9 in this list, hirscher 4th, stenmark 1st. So what do you mean?
@emmanuelsavage1271
@emmanuelsavage1271 5 ай бұрын
I would agree that Stenmark is the GOAT but also remember he battled the Mahre brothers. There was also Marc Girardelli, Pirmin Zurbriggen, and where's Gustavo Thoeni who later coached Alberto Tomba?
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Girardelli and Zurbriggen yes
@igorferluga3958
@igorferluga3958 5 ай бұрын
Can you justify why Gustav Thoeni or Karl Schranz not? Thoeni won World Cups in 71, 72, 73 and 75 ( dramatic finish against Stenmark). Won also 3 Olympic medals an 7 World championship medals, of this 5 gold. His technical skill in GS and GSL was superb for his time. Probably you are to young to evaluate that.
@KarlDittli-nq3wo
@KarlDittli-nq3wo 4 ай бұрын
Zurbriggen?
@OlavDenDeilige
@OlavDenDeilige 5 ай бұрын
Hirscher should obviously be #1 or #2. Also, Zurbriggen and Girardelli should both make the list, perhaps even top five. Apart from that, not too shabby. Odermatt could be in the top ten after this season IMO.
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Zurbriggen girardelli yes, but hirscher 1st?
@beorlingo
@beorlingo 5 ай бұрын
There's no competition for 1st. Come on...
@Bulle4u
@Bulle4u 5 ай бұрын
Bode Miller was often spectacular, but far from good enough for such a list. Pirmin Zurbriggen was one of the most complete alpine skier of all times. I think he is still, and always will be, the only one to ever win a WC SL and downhill race in the same week.
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Incredible. As ypu can see in description, Killy was something spectacular too
@MrRavenski23
@MrRavenski23 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree about permin Zurbringen. The list seems to be biais to Norwegians. What about Giradelli ?
@CommanderGinyu
@CommanderGinyu 5 ай бұрын
Bode miller may not have the raw numbers but at his peak he was the most complete male skier ever. He’s still the only one to have at least 5 wins in every discipline. And it’s a shame he hasn’t won more races overall
@PeterSchibli-td2xq
@PeterSchibli-td2xq 4 ай бұрын
Zurbriggen and Giardelli not being on here is ridiculous and having Bide at number 10 is also…..he completely and single handedly changed the line and technical approach with equipment to the sport
@user-bc2rp8zr8f
@user-bc2rp8zr8f 4 ай бұрын
Pirmin Zurbriggen e Girardelli al di la di questi nomi ci devono sempre essere in una classifica dei migliori .
@TheBoaz83
@TheBoaz83 5 ай бұрын
Do you know Who are Girardelli and Zurbriggen?
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Agree they should have been there
@rogerskrivars208
@rogerskrivars208 4 ай бұрын
Kungen från Tärnaby💪
@andyhodgson7692
@andyhodgson7692 2 ай бұрын
It shows that there have been some amazing skiers when Pirmin Zurbriggen isn't even in the top 10.
@morkvomork5557
@morkvomork5557 4 ай бұрын
My number one is Hermann Maier. His life should be made into a film
@nuhimusliu4497
@nuhimusliu4497 4 ай бұрын
Hermann Maier hat im gegensatz zu Stenmark "drei" disziplininen dominiert. Ohne seinen unfall hätte er alle rekorde gebrochen. Wenn es rein nach skifahrerischem herzblut geht , ist Hermann Maier unübertroffen !!!. Ein racer, ein sportsmann, eine wucht. Wenn der aus dem starthaus war, hast du dich nur gefragt welchen abstand er heraus fahren wird. So ein ähnliches gefühl hatte ich bei Marcel, und jetzt auch bei Marco Odermatt.
@jflatl
@jflatl 3 ай бұрын
Was this list made by a Norwegian? I am Norwegian and i have to say that Pirmin should be in the top five on this list! No discussion. Girardelli top ten aswell. Kudos, though for putting Lasse Kjus up there. He competed in all events in Vail 1999 and made it top two in every event. Had a lot of health problems ruining many seasons but had a ‘feeling’ that is hard to describe. (Both Kjus and Aamodt have no doubt Stenmark was the greatest ever, btw). I am to young to know about Killy and Thoeni.. Interesting discussion, though! I bet Odermatt will be remembered as one of the greats! Peace from Norway✌️
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 3 ай бұрын
Takk!
@rudinkonstantin9007
@rudinkonstantin9007 14 күн бұрын
To create such a list, clear objective criteria are needed: time period that is counted, number of victories in the overall World Cup, number of overall victories in discipline World Cups, number of World Cup victories per discipline, number of World Cup and Olympic medals per discipline, outstanding performances in one discipline, outstanding performances overall in each discipline. This list should definitely include all World Cup riders who have won at least one race in ALL individual disciplines (downhill, super-G since 1985, giant slalom, slalom): Jean-Claude Killy (without super-G), Marc Girardelli, Pirmin Zurbriggen, Bode Miller, Kjetil André Aamodt and Günther Mader. In addition, all overall World Cup winners with at least 3 large crystal globes in their collection who have not won in all disciplines: Marcel Hirscher, Gustav Thöni, Hermann Maier, Ingemar Stenmark, Phil Maire and Marco Odermatt. In addition, you also have to take into account athletes on this list with outstanding performances in individual disciplines: e.g. Franz Klammer, Aksel Lund Svindal, Beat Feuz, Stefan Eberharter, Didier Cuche, Bode Miller, Lasse Kjus, Michael von Grünigen etc. We already have 12 athletes in the first two categories, and it is very difficult to find objective and fair criteria to remove 2 athletes from this list. One criterion could be: number of World Cup victories achieved in relation to the number of World Cup races held in the respective season. Günther Mader would probably be thrown out of the list, as he has not achieved more than 2 World Cup victories in any individual discipline - apart from the Super-G. Conclusion: I would like to help continue this discussion with objective criteria...
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 14 күн бұрын
Good points. This is pretty much subjective and based on ski-db stats. Maybe i should make a list like you suggested too?
@manfredhammerle9421
@manfredhammerle9421 4 ай бұрын
Die Liste ist super! Kein Schweizer :-) (Hopp Schwiz! - Greetings from Austria!
@DavidOliver_Skier
@DavidOliver_Skier 5 ай бұрын
agreed re Stenmark
@simonpius383
@simonpius383 5 ай бұрын
Interesting subject. Of the three Norwegian included, only Svindal clearly belongs. The other two (Lasse Kjus and Aamodt) are clearly Norwegian homer choices. The glaring omission is Pirmin Zurbriggen. Toni Seiler from the 1950s is from an era impossible to truly consider within modern skiing.
@Ioulbrinaire
@Ioulbrinaire 5 ай бұрын
What are the arguments to rank this way? Number of victories? Zurbriggen (won in all disciplines), Cuche (record of victories in Kitzbuehl), Girardelli? It seems that this ranking is based on subjectivity. Fine for me, but change the title of the video then.
@henrikrdstherchristie9553
@henrikrdstherchristie9553 3 ай бұрын
Before I watched the list I made my own. 8 names matched. I think you could make a point for Zurbriggen, Girardelli, Toni Sailer or Zeno Colo.
@TheMischanator
@TheMischanator 3 ай бұрын
Odermatt has to be on this list in 2-3 years
@MrLenoir99
@MrLenoir99 4 ай бұрын
Such classifications are perforce arbitrary, but this one is extravagant. I argue the label greatest *skiers* (not downhill or technical specialists) should be for the few ones who won races in all the disciplines. My own number 1 among those few, is Zurbriggen. Girardelli won one more Cup because he was active longer, but Zurbriggen had the sheer class that left you in awe. Bode Miller is close, with Thoeni and very few others.
@marcelbiollaz2371
@marcelbiollaz2371 5 ай бұрын
Obviously....you are a ski fan. Only fan. And Norwegian fan.
@gregslow1
@gregslow1 4 ай бұрын
Hard to define the ten best. But Zurbriggen was a true master. As was Giradelli. Has been said by others. ;-)
@vfifty9182
@vfifty9182 5 ай бұрын
Herminator No. 1 No Question. Absolut Legend.
@gamberorotto
@gamberorotto 5 ай бұрын
Nice list, but Tomba's record is inaccurate. He won three Olympic gold medals, two World Championships, four World Cup titles in slalom, four in giant slalom, and one overall World Cup title.
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for clearing
@thomaslandolt9235
@thomaslandolt9235 4 ай бұрын
Well chosen😊...cheers from a Swiss😂
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 4 ай бұрын
Thanks
@haberg1538
@haberg1538 4 ай бұрын
The Problem is there are Lot of really good skiers Like Didier cuche, Vivica kostellic, Svindal, Hans Knaus, Mario Matt,...
@B-A-L
@B-A-L 4 ай бұрын
Pirmin Zurbriggen would like a polite word with you! How about making a list of the best skier from every country? I know it'd be difficult for skiing giants like Austria, Switzerland, Norway etc but for Britain it just has to be Dave Ryding!
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 4 ай бұрын
Haha, good video idea. I'll give it a go, stay tuned
@jw3406
@jw3406 3 ай бұрын
La Bomba und das Hammer, first. And then everybody else. :) Ya, das ist correct.
@OberDesiah
@OberDesiah 4 ай бұрын
Weird that Aamodt and Kjus get so much flak. Clearly the most versatile/complete alpinists on this lists, which otherwise consist mostly of specialists(hence they won overall WC many times, most-winning olympians of all time etc)
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 4 ай бұрын
Totally agree. And Aamodt got by far most top10s ever, and there's more races now too. Superb overall and really impacted the sport. Especially in olympics and wc
@arontal
@arontal 4 ай бұрын
Ghiradelli, Zurbrigen, Von Groenigen probably should be on this list (and I should probably look up how to spell their names).
@andreypankin5122
@andreypankin5122 5 ай бұрын
Alexander Zhirov could have been included in this list, but a car accident interrupted both his career and his life... "Zhirov was a wonderful skier. I guess... he was a genius." Ingemar Stenmark.
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks
@wyattjones3963
@wyattjones3963 5 ай бұрын
Prima dei norvegesi, Aamod a parte, viene Zurbriggen e Girardelli, oltre a Gustavo Thoeni...
@sevi7301
@sevi7301 4 ай бұрын
How is pirmin zurbriggen not in there? Belongs into the top 6
@duvidl
@duvidl 5 ай бұрын
For me, Killy was #1. (I'm 75, so I remember. Haha!)
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Haha, incredible skier
@pierremarcoux9465
@pierremarcoux9465 5 ай бұрын
Didn't Killy win gold at the 1968 Olympics in slalom, GS and downhill?
@duvidl
@duvidl 5 ай бұрын
@@pierremarcoux9465 Yup. In Innsbruck. No Super G yet.
@richardpare3538
@richardpare3538 5 ай бұрын
Yup - when I saw that he was using Dynamic VR17 skis, I decided that if they were good enough for him, they were good enough for me!
@cain1011
@cain1011 5 ай бұрын
He is the only alpine skier to win a DH, SL and GS globe. Incredible! I have him at 9th OAT.
@marcelbusinger4181
@marcelbusinger4181 5 ай бұрын
the Swiss were completely forgotten (Russi, Zurbriggen, Cuche, von Grünigen, etc.)!
@JakaMarinsek
@JakaMarinsek 5 ай бұрын
the Herminator should be No.1 on your list.
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Aah, dont agree, but good pick
@JakaMarinsek
@JakaMarinsek 5 ай бұрын
Agree that Stenmark is a league of its own, and also Aamodt has more WCH and OI medals, but Herminator has way more WC podiums. I see him as somekind of underdog. Like Herman Maier who? but when you see his career you can't be unimpressed
@williamfox1146
@williamfox1146 4 ай бұрын
All of the great skiers recognized Bode as skiing faster than they had ever seen.
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 4 ай бұрын
Exactly why he's here, but some people still complain
@dsachsenheimer
@dsachsenheimer 5 ай бұрын
Marc Giradelli? Pirmin Zurbriggen?
@andyvare8541
@andyvare8541 3 ай бұрын
Forgetting Wayne Wong, Spyder Sabich, Glen Plake and Jonny Mosely. I mean, watch any real ski movie, by Warren Miller or Matchstick, and check out the local villains. Not hating on any of the Norwegians, just being comfortable with a broader definition of "skiing".
@bb57365
@bb57365 4 ай бұрын
Klammer, was always on the edge.
@oliverceberg9137
@oliverceberg9137 5 ай бұрын
Not even one Swiss racer??? ⛷️🇨🇭
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Sadly. Many good ones. Cuche maybe?
@TheBoaz83
@TheBoaz83 5 ай бұрын
@@speedkingzzurbriggen > Kjus, Klammer, Aamodt, Svindal
@TheLedahosn
@TheLedahosn 5 ай бұрын
Cuche ,von Grùningen,Zurbriggen have to be on that list;and I am Austrian
@TheLedahosn
@TheLedahosn 5 ай бұрын
Klammer and Svindal should not be on that list. Guenther Mader,Giradelli also won in all 5 disciplines
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
@@TheLedahosn Your take. Klammer is by many considered the greatest downhill skier. Svindal won all there is to win in speed races, and with his injuries and comebacks, you can argue he really is among the greats
@jf8424
@jf8424 4 ай бұрын
Where Pirmin Zurbriggen?!! Marc Girardelli ?!! Some of those shown here could possibly have their shoes shined! 🙂
@user-gc9hs2ft4g
@user-gc9hs2ft4g 4 ай бұрын
Pirmin Zurbriggen belongs into top five.
@LeJoTravel
@LeJoTravel 5 ай бұрын
Who did this ranking? Did he ever watch ski competitions for the past 40 years?Aside from Stenmark, Klammer and Killy, you are totally off my friend...
@horstreichel6210
@horstreichel6210 5 ай бұрын
A list after personal feelings, rather than actual achievements...
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Maybe, but achievement wise, can't be too far off except for maybe zurbriggen and girardelli
@cain1011
@cain1011 5 ай бұрын
Yes, I agree. Miller, Kjus and Aamodt should not be on this list.
@MrChicbrown
@MrChicbrown 4 ай бұрын
Zurbriggen and soon Odermatt also....come on it's a Phantasie list 😂
@planik2730
@planik2730 5 ай бұрын
Wtf is ketjl andre amondt doing on second position?
@TheBVlion
@TheBVlion 5 ай бұрын
The greatest alpine skiers are only those who were able to win in in EVERY disccipline. - So, certrainly no Stenmark, no Maier, no Hirscher etc.
@willibaldpush6920
@willibaldpush6920 4 ай бұрын
I think you are at the wrong place.
@markusmueller2246
@markusmueller2246 3 ай бұрын
I think he is right. Otherwise call it the greatest downhiller or slalom or GS skier. A great Alpine skier should be able to do it in all the disciplines.
@lordoflaziness7775
@lordoflaziness7775 4 ай бұрын
Where you from? Specially Bode Miller feels like a reach. He obviously was a spectacel all or nothing rider, which is fun to watch No Zurbriggen is crazy! Excpected him in the top 5! He’s probably thr most important skier for the development of the sport. Alberto Tomba feels also missing, but some italiens probably will remind you 😉
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 4 ай бұрын
Bode is one of a kind, admired by all the best as one of the fastest
@ToomasVali-kt3uk
@ToomasVali-kt3uk 4 ай бұрын
You got #1 right. #2 is Klammer #3 Tomba
@mimmosieni6593
@mimmosieni6593 5 ай бұрын
And Zeno Colo and Gust 💨 va Thoni and pierino gros
@igorek1982
@igorek1982 4 ай бұрын
Pirmin Zurbriggen is where?!? Marc Girardelli is where??? Omg😱
@TerjeMathisen
@TerjeMathisen 5 ай бұрын
Stenmark was an easy choice as the top male skier, but I would have loved to see one or two of the real pioneers, like Stein Eriksen!
@LightSnowOvernight
@LightSnowOvernight 5 ай бұрын
see my post about Toni Sailer
@rustyme1122
@rustyme1122 5 ай бұрын
Tomba, Meier, and Stenmark on the list. I'm good.
@PhilipSmith-hs3fl
@PhilipSmith-hs3fl 5 ай бұрын
Zurbriggen, Girardelli and Cuche. Come on.
@andreacolaianni6305
@andreacolaianni6305 5 ай бұрын
Where is Alberto Tomba
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
He's in there. 4th or 7th dont remember
@cain1011
@cain1011 5 ай бұрын
I have Tomba at 10th.
@zagozago9893
@zagozago9893 3 ай бұрын
Pirmin Zurbriggen should be on this.
@vb917
@vb917 4 ай бұрын
I know it´s difficult, but I think you forgot in your TopTen Didier Cuche, Karl Schranz, Toni Sailer.
@phishfearme2
@phishfearme2 26 күн бұрын
you forgot Squirrel Murphy
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 26 күн бұрын
Good candidate
@richardpare3538
@richardpare3538 5 ай бұрын
You need to rank the women - skiers like Schriffrin and Vonn are two of the best ever.
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Agree, but this is men only. Will make a new one
@mountainlife1200
@mountainlife1200 5 ай бұрын
​@@speedkingzWhy not say best mens skiers then? All you did is give this video a misleading title.
@cain1011
@cain1011 5 ай бұрын
Can't compare women's with men's. Men's waay more competitive.
@stephanedajtlich
@stephanedajtlich 5 ай бұрын
And Nadig
@pascalwicht5272
@pascalwicht5272 4 ай бұрын
And Lara Gut
@davidspear6682
@davidspear6682 5 ай бұрын
You might want to change the title to "Top 10 Greatest Male Alpine Skiers of All Time"
@cain1011
@cain1011 5 ай бұрын
Why? It is self explanatory. Women's alpine ski racing is a joke compared to men's like football.
@gangelo79
@gangelo79 5 ай бұрын
"and also mainly Norwegian"
@ljukherrecker
@ljukherrecker 5 ай бұрын
By what measure the greatest? I miss Benni Raich, Marc Giradelli, Pirmin Zurbriggen
@speedkingz
@speedkingz 5 ай бұрын
Results at their peak, personal traits, personal meaning. They should be there
@ben9229
@ben9229 5 ай бұрын
​@@speedkingzYes, if you count only since the beginning of the World Cup I mostly agree with you. I would finally replace Aamodt and Kjus by Girardelli and Zurbriggen. And looking at current races one could already include Odermatt, and then maybe leave out Miller. I agree with including Klammer, his series of downhill wins during three seasons reminds me of Stenmarks domination.
@ben9229
@ben9229 5 ай бұрын
​@@speedkingzI forgot Thöni, he would replace Miller in my list. And Odermatt is waiting - wouldn't be surprised if he wins another two Wengen races and Kitzbühel this season.
@glenngastonjonsson7954
@glenngastonjonsson7954 3 ай бұрын
I would certainly put Zurbriggen and Girardelli on my top ten. The battle of dh vs slalom or gs will go on forever. The combined discipline never worked that out. Stenmark is totally ok as numero uno, Hirscher is my nr 2 and Maier no 3. But then again, we all know that Shiffrin is the boss.
@glenngastonjonsson7954
@glenngastonjonsson7954 3 ай бұрын
As for norwegians on a top ten list, Aamodt is the one and only. So far. He was a fuckin beautiful skier to watch. Braathen will end up as one of the top ten, hopefully.
@user-vh2du7jw7f
@user-vh2du7jw7f 5 ай бұрын
Rudolf Nierlich Stephan Eberharter Marc Girardelli Pirmin Zurbriggen Michael von Grünigen
@bjornnordstrom
@bjornnordstrom 4 ай бұрын
Ingemar Stenmark 2024 at age 67: kzfaq.infop7bQZ4me7OE?si=aFWYPscMTwQPrcdr
@carlogiaco
@carlogiaco 3 ай бұрын
Assolutamente d'accordo. Ingo su tutti e tutto.
@mikawen2704
@mikawen2704 4 ай бұрын
Id ad zurbriggen and even go so far, to add marco odermatt into the top10, or lets say especially after this season
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