"I pity the trees sacrificed to make this book" 😂 damn Petrik, that's not a roast that's an incineration

"Fifty shades of grey in the forest." 🤣🤣🤣

COME WATCH PETRIK HATE BAD BOOKS

I love Salty Petrik so much. I'm also picking up the shades of magic series after really enjoying Vicious so we'll see if i feel the same.

Finally a video I can safely watch without fear of expanding my TBR again, hahaha. I like how you can be so tenderly brutal and honest when Salty Petrik is unleashed 🤣 And even though I was personally fully on-board for all the messy character dynamics in Dragon Haven, I can also totally agree why you bounced off it so hard, hahah. Thanks for sharing friend, this was fun 🤩

Salty Petrik Returns! So many great lines. Everyone has commented about those lines. Great video.

I took Sanderson's class at BYU, I have read almost all his books, and I feel like I know all his content well, but Id never even heard of Defending Elysium haha

I've only read the first four you name in this video! Uprooted: Enemies-to-lovers is hard to pull off, but I thought Novik did a reasonable job on this one. I'm with you though; I personally liked Spinning Silver more but it was hilarious seeing another friend read it because she went off on a rant on Spinning Silver towards the end. The Fall of Babel: I think the shift from single POV to multi-POV for the series is what I've seen readers get bummed out about re: "Senlin feeling like a side character in his own story". I personally enjoyed that shift quite a lot and Bancroft does his multi-POV structures in separate parts where each different POV effectively "rewinds" to a particular event instead of interweaving them which I thought was a neat way of handling the split and the issue of the different storylines not lining up neatly when interleaved. What really got me was the ending-I laughed so hard when I realized that the whole thing was basically a real game of Sid Meier's Civilization so yeah, I'm not expecting a follow-up series. The Traitor Baru Cormorant: This is one of my all-time favorite books by one of my all-time favorite authors that I personally believe to be as near-flawless as you can write a debut so I had my heart in my throat wondering why you rated it a 1-star (assuming that thumbnail is accurate). Glad to hear the reason was you simply didn't vibe with Dickinson's prose style! I personally love his prose; it's so restrained and understated and full of subtext. He's also using a very deliberate style for these books and wrote a really great essay called "Let's Hurt Sentences" on the subject that I always refer back to before I do line edits on my own books. Baru 4 is with his publisher I believe but he's got a sci-fi standalone, Exordia, which is coming out early next year and I'm super psyched to see what he does with it. (And I wonder whether he'll use a different prose style for it.) Defending Elysium: This was one of the free short stories he posted on his website years ago so if anyone reading this comment wants to try it, you can still read it for free on Sanderson's website, as well as the accompanying annotation that goes into the circumstances in which he wrote it. IIRC, when his Apocalypse Guard YA novels weren't working out, he remembered that he had this setting plus the "instead of a boy and his dragon, it's a girl and her spaceship" pitch and turned it into Skyward.

Omg I laughed out loud just now at work when you said a character used magic for a 24 hr erection. That's just wild 😂 "negative" or not this was a very fun video

On that Brandon Sanderson novella, it's always tough when people say you should have read this or that book. Unless the novella leaves it clearly to the reader, as in having a guide inside saying "this novella is prequel or sequel and should be read in this order", it still is the author's work to make it satisfying as its own piece of writing. Having people tell you to read other books so you can read the novella, can make it feel like you're reading the other book out of obligation, as if you were preparing for a test.

I really like how you roast books you disliked. So gentle and yet so efficient!! Your anger at the horny plots really made me laugh

I found your channel after I DNF Uprooted and was looking for someone sharing my opinion. I was so glad to have found you back then because everybody else seemed to love this book😅

Before I watch this, I'm crossing my fingers that we get Salty Petrik.😂❤

This line was epic

Thanks for the video. I totally agree about Uprooted! The most upsetting thing about it is that it's often recommended on Reddit to people who want romance in their fantasy :/

And thanks Petrik. Awesome video and you saved me a bunch of hours which I can spend with Hadrian and Royce! 😊

9:29 - woa! That cuts deep 😂😂😂 my fave of the rain wild chronicles! Character payoff. Keen to hear about your disappointment...🍿

2:18 👏👏👏👏 thank you - i ended up rooting for the trees 💜📚

Thanks for list. Luckily I had not read any of those. I must have feel your energy across the Tubiverse.

Omg you hating books gives me life lol😂 always appreciate your opinion!

You should never apologize for having your own opinion I love these videos these videos are probably my favorite. The ones were your salty over them. I liked the Traitor Son cycle I do agree that it had way too many points of you I really loved the dragons in the lore that was in it also sword of Kings by Bernard Cornwell was a big big disappointment for me too from the series that I loved you need to make more of these videos keep up the great work

Interesting idea for a video. I'll remove Baru Cormorant from my 'to read' pile. Surprised to see a Bernard Cornwell novel on here, even the best can slip it seems. Did you ever read the Scholomance series also by Naomi Novik, it is exceptionally poorly written yet that too has around a 4* rating on GoodReads.

My morning was dragging a bit, and then... this video happened! I was laughing out loud even as I covered my eyes thinking... I might have liked Uprooted. Thank you for the morning pick-me-up Petrik!

Hahah, fun video! I love A Gathering of shadows but I understand what you mean. 😊 My unpopular opinion is that I hate The First Law Trilogy 🙈 Joe Abbercrombie's writting is not for me.😅

Uprooted: DNF. I actually got through at least half. While far from good, it held my attention for a while. It just wasn't enough to bother finishing the book Defending Elysium: Hard Disagree. I love this story. I like it better than Skyward, I read it long before it was published when it was only available on Brandon Sanderson's webpage and long before the Skyward series was written. In fact, it was this book that convinced me to try Skyward. It definitely does not have the polish of many of his other books, but that is because it was more of a writing exercise than a book. I haven't read the rest.

11:20 I’m so glad you mentioned this one! One of my subscribers had told me they didn’t like Rain Wild (the entire trilogy) for the same reason. It’s good to know the other 2 don’t have the same overdone issue 😅Planning to borrow those from the library when I reach that area of the Realm 😬

"teenagers finding their libido explosion" made me chuckle. Honestly, with my unending tbr, I appreciate such videos even more than the ones with recommendations. 😅 And I'm there with you on not being a fan of characters being horny all the time.

I was also disappointed with the Fall of Babel, especially after the Hod King which I thought was fantastic. Here's to hoping his next series has a better conclusion!

Hi 👋 interesting video, thank you for ur thoughts 💭 happy reading to you!! 😊

Great video as always - and I hope I never piss off salty Petrik!

I do agree on Uprooted. I came to Naomi Novik through the Temeraire series, which I loved, but I couldn’t finish Uprooted. I haven’t read any Novik since. Maybe I’ll try Spinning Silver.

I'm Polish and putting aside the romance plot in Uprooted, the Polish-inspired elements of the story were just riddiculous 😂

Have you read "Godkiller" yet? If so, would love to know your thoughts on it. Thank you! 🦌

While there are a couple of titles on here I am likely to read in my future - so I skipped those chapters 🫣 - most of these books are unfamiliar to me. Bar one, The Traitor - Baru Cormorant, which I really did not like… at all. I still have it on my shelves, mind you, because I tend not to unhaul. That is except for books I cannot stand, of which I can instantly recall two (one is a favourite of yours [very big 😜]). Anyway, I don’t tend to say much on this topic because it’s negative, and there are many books I dislike and quietly never mention again. Good episode, sir, I like seeing both sides, and you make it constructive either way 👏

I love the salty videos, sometimes to need to open the pressure valve for a bit. Although it is very funny to me, the irony of people saying you should do more negative-leaning videos, and then the moment you make one, they go "no, no, not like that!"

We both have the same opinion of A Gathering Of Shadows. I even dnf the series and never felt the urge to start again

This is an unrelated comment, I just wanted to share that I just read Piranesi a couple of days ago and I absolutely loved it! Such a cool book, I'm still trying to piece together what exactly I just read. It was mind-blowing but also simple at the same time. I really want to read Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell (by the same Author). But I just started Assassin's Apprentice last night. But I think Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell may be my next read. I just really enjoyed reading Piranesi so I think I might like the Author's other books.

15:07 agree - 4 London's was so cool, but was not used to do anything interesting 😔💜📚

What is that book behind his left shoulder with the guy facing down the dragon? Thats an awesome cover

The ones I've read: - Uprooted: Was alright? but it also made me not pick up anymore Naomi Novik lol - Traitor Baru C.: It read like an economics textbook. I could not connect with anyone in that book. - Defending Elysium: I did like this one! But I had already read all of Skyward series so far so it was just like an interesting extra. - Robin Hobb in general is just not my type of author. Dnf'd third book in first trilogy and have not looked back haha. - VE Schwab also just not my type of author. I've tried a few and nothing is above a 3s, so I've accepted reality. Was great hearing your negative thoughts! Those are also important when comparing tastes and opinions :D

Uprooted is the only Novik book I've read and I thought it was okay at best. Sounds like it that's the worst one I should check out some more of her stuff lol. Defending Elysium I think is fine for what it is, but yeah it's definitely not a polished story. I also hated Rain Wilds lol, so I'm there with you. The Desert Prince was so bad, I did like Demon Cycle a lot despite the major issues, but I agree this spin off shouldn't have been published.

Some day someone is going to write a thriller where Naomi Novik is vacationing in Indonesia and you are found bloodied with a copy of Uprooted laying nearby. Beware!!! LOL! (I didn’t like Uprooted either but Spinning Silver is lovely.)

Ironically I was just reading your Unholy War review the other day (trying to decide if Moontide Quartet should be a priority series for next year). And yikes, that sounds like a terrible third book. Do you still feel like the series was overall worth it or better to avoid at all costs haha?

I literally choked on my drink on the trees comments, and the 24-hours magic, like... what? D: D: D: Also, I have never heard of that novella by Sanderson, that was shocking, honestly. Anyways, I loved this video - you were funny and unapologetic, and really liked it. Ugh about the Desert Prince, that's shit - I _hate_ that type of forced development, to be honest.

Ah, the Salty Petrik!! Love this video. Agree with you on the Fall of Babel, was disappointed what they did with Senlin. He has a new book releasing soon. Didn't read Defending Elysium, now, oh well, I'll hold off. The Rainwild Chronicles, really can be pulled out of the The Realm of the Enderlings. I have all the David Hairs, read book one loved it, you are so funny here!!! Cameron, I read the first book, and I have read his other series, Master and Mages, he is hit or miss for me. Going to attempt his Sci-fi Artifact Space. For me the Demon Cycle ended, thought it was long enough doesn't need to go further. Cornwell's pattern hols true for his Sharpe books as well.

This is why I haven't used GoodReads in years, as it's just morphed into a popularity-contest site 😞 Have had Uprooted on my shelves for years, and even unhauled it several times, though it's so pretty I have trouble and pull it back out of the box lol. I couldn't get beyond the first chapter or two, and the guy being really rude to the protagonist put me off as she just shrugged it off - ugh.

Don't worry about the hateful comments Petrik, you're doing an amazing job! I think we have similar tastes, however I loved The Fall of Babel, but can 100% understand why someone wouldn't, and that's fine 😆

Not me jotting down all the titles of books that were too 'horny' 😂

Thank you for making me laugh. "50 shades of Gray in the Forest" that is a pitch indeed my frend! 😂 Salty Petrik rules!

I dropped a chorus of dragon for the same reason you didn't like unholy war. By the 3rd book, everyone is horny, every joke is a sexual innuendo. I'm not a prude but it was getting really old. We also need more salty petrik!!

Ooof, I do not remember much about uprooted but I think I loved the vibes, and the Dragon Haven, yeah, that was also my biggest critique of the series. Teenagers can be irritating like that but the way it was written also made it hard to love the book tbh.

I really enjoyed listening to you and really had to laugh at the description of the Robin Hobb book 😄 Thanks for the video 😊

I completely agree with the fall of babel, after hearing good things about the first book, i decided to listen to all of them as audiobooks. I loved the first 3 books and it felt like everything fell apart on the fourth one, I still haven't finished the last few hours.

14:21 I agree with this one, unpopular or not. Book two was the weakest in this series and felt like time filler with the tournament story thread to the main black London-vitari story thread. This series should have been a doulogy.

Petrik, I am with you 100% on VE Schwab. Liked "Viscious" enough but DNF'd "The Shade of Magic" series and never understood the hype. Book one was maybe, maybe ok. Then, right off a cliff.

I couldn't agree more about Peter V. Brett's books. The series started out great, then it went downhill to the point where I won't even try The Desert Prince.

A great and honest new angel of video! I wonder if besides Ken Liu, Fonda Lee and a few others you have an adult completed fantasy book series you thought was good all through and didn't lose it

I've only read one of these books that you talked about, but I completely agree. Uprooted is so overrated and sadly not a very good book imo.

Pity the trees sacrificed to make this book!!!! 😂😂😂 my guy I never knew the words to say when I felt disappointed by a book 😂 I’m stealing that!

I will stand on a hill defending Robyn Hobb series around the Fool and Fitz. The rainwild series, nope.

Fifty Shades of Gray in the forest! I love it! 🤣😂 I agree, I thought the romance parts of Uprooted were pretty cringey.

Your review of Unholy War was so funny to listen to, especially your last comments on it with your facial expressions.

The Locked Tomb series deserves an honorable mention. I will never understand how people can like that!

10:50 - lol I can see how that can be annoying - for me it was City of Dragons and Blood of dragons where I was so annoyed and did not care about the sex politics. In Dragon Haven i enjoyed it, as it was exploring civilisation, inventing new rules and laws, who gets to make them. Don't get me wrong it was gross - but i got so angry with the idea of "mating/ breeding" and possession and rites of a person. I thought it explored the reason for rules that was not first apparent and pulled out alot of feminist issues around respect, owning your body, people are people not things and you don't own other people, but you need to take responsibility for your actions. I think this could have been explored more by having the rainwild and tattooed politics, fitting in, claiming part of the community and integration as well. Looking more at societal rules, who gets to decide and judge and how do they get put in place. 💜📚

I totally agree with Dragon Haven being horrible. I almost was not able to finish it. It was so annoying. I plan to re-read Realm of the Elderlings someday, but will skip the Rainwilds completely.

A question for you- is red rising and malice worth reading

That's a shame you didn't like the Fell Sword, I love the whole series. I do agree with you regarding the Fall of Babel though.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 omg, knowing nothing about that Robin Hobb book, I was not expecting you to say what you did 😂. That really is too bad about Peter V Brett's books 🤮, so glad I quit the Demon Cycle after book 1

i didn't 1star Uprooted, but i agree that it was overhyped. Like, somewhere in there is a good story, but it felt disorganized in how it was told, and the romance come out of nowhere (i think i would have been happier if they just became friends over her time spent) I really wanted to like it cause so many of my friends liked it, but yeah... just wasn't my cup of tea. I think i rated it at a 2.5 on a personal scale. Kind of boring, with a piece here and there that i liked but was never explored further, but i didn't DNF

WHAT! You hated Defending Elysium??? I actually read it before starting the Skyward series, and LOVED it! But yeah, I can see how it would be disappointing if you read it out of order. It was really fun having some backstory that the Skyward characters didn't even have, but also wondering how in the world things had changed so drastically in the time between the novella and Skyward.

A Gathering of Shadows is a rare time where i initially liked the book. Then I DNF'd A Conjuring of Light and was so disappointed that a went back and lowered my score of Shadows. That third book is so bad it makes the previous entries WORSE. This has only happened one other time with the Founders Trilogy, and Locklands specifically. And it's REAL weird it has happened twice.

I agree on Uprooted being very overrated. While I’m not quite with you on 1 Star and being one of the worst books I’ve read because I thought it had some good moments and parts of the world were interesting, it was not good and very disappointing. I give it 2 stars.

I thought I was alone in my not-clicking with Seth Dickinson's writing. I am such a huge fan of Dorothy Dunnett's House of Niccolo so the premise of The Traitor immediately hooked me. And sure, Baru's economic maneuvering is mild compared to Basso or Nicholas de Fleury, but the thing that broke me was just how exasperated i was with character development. I even gave the Monster a try and I decided he is just for me. It has to be schadenfreude, but your annoyance with horny books is way too entertaining to watch. :))) Thanks for sharing, Petrik!

Okay but the cover of Uprooted is so pretty! Thats the only reason i still own it lmao

One book I think was a waste of trees sacrificed to make a book was Metronome By Tom Watson

The Temerarie series by Naomi Novik would probably be more up your alley. Napoleonic wars with dragons who talk? I love uprooted just because of the female friendship element. But understand why others don’t love it!

Ah so it ain't just me that didn't like Baru Cormorant. I think I got halfway through it but just dropped it. It was interesting at first but it just felt boring halfway through.

Salty Petrik for the win!!!

You know, not liking a book by your favourite author is not at all weird imho. When you like someone's writings so much, it doesn't take a big step down to feel disappointed, because you hold them to a pretty high standard. It happened to me with Beren and Luthien, but then again, it was not really a story that JRR Tolkien published in that form, so I kind of understand where the dissonance comes from. It was a frankenstein cobbled together from notes and fragments and many many much earlier versions of middle earth tales (way before the hobbit was even written) The point is, the more you enjoy an author or a series, the easier it is to get disappointed when not everything aligns as we feel like we wanted.

Great works of literature, especially fantasy can be Brilliant without obtrusive sexual desires. JRR Tolkien can be a great example. However if done right, such as George RR Martin. It can work, clearly as these books you have picked do not work well in that type of writing style. As a aspiring author myself, it is hard to distinguish proper from adventurous behavior sometimes.

I appreciate when Booktube is not always about hype and people slow down to give their honest opinions, so don't apologize :)

Nooo ... not A Gathering of Shadows!! 😆 Shades of Magic is a favorite series of mine! But I love Salty Petrik, so it's okay 😂

Non of those spark my interest yet, I'm in my adult Sci-fi & Fantasy zone atm! 📖😃📚

Crazy..Had exactly the same with uprooted and unholy war😅❤

Of the books on your list that I read , I find myself in total agreement.

Uprooted is so weird... Because Spinning Silver is so good!

Spot on with The Fall of Babel. What happened?

I like how most of these books are from authors that you like. It makes it more credible than if you just started bagging on SJM or whoever.

Uprooted? A Gathering of Shadows? You wound me 😂😂

Probably my most unpopular opinion is I think The Six of Crows Duology is very overrated. I can understand latching onto the characters, but the plot is mediocre. I think the author could have been way more creative with the heist plotline. I can see why it's popular for its target demographic but don't understand the love from adult fantasy readers. I probably just read them when I was too old so I don't get the hype. Also, I hate Vicious, which is an incredibly unpopular opinion. Only thing I liked about it was the unconventional time line but I hated all of the characters, especially the main two.

I finished Dragon Haven, and good lord I wanted to throw that book across the room.

I DNFed The Fall of Babel. Nothing in that book kept me interested enough to see how the story ended.

My TBR is marked safe from books that suck.

I very much like Salty Petrik 😅

It's a shame Cornwell didn't condense the series into 5 or 6 books, it could have been epic. I stopped after book 6

NOOOOOOOOOO! I will be loyal to Robin Hobb until the end of my days! Ok, the Rainwild Chronicles are not as good as the other books, but Dragon Haven (hay-ven) wasn’t THAT bad, a middling amount of bad maybe! Actually, it was quite bad!

Has anyone noticed how many times Petrik said “Horney” in this video😅😅?

Totally agree about dragon haven 💯

Moontide Quartet...hmm, I may be deleting my ebooks of this series. Lol

Yes, I don't understand overly lustful characters. Worse, I don't comprehend how specific authors portray characters having multiple sexual encounters approaching doomsday, on the run and facing life-or-death wars.