Top 10 New England Patriots
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3 жыл бұрынI think we know who #1 is but anyway here are the ten greatest Patriots in history. This episode originally aired in 2016.
@nwilly9974 3 жыл бұрын
Willie McGinnest is a unsung hero for the Patriots especially during those 90s to early 2000s
@maddmancord 3 жыл бұрын
Then donta Hightower started to make crucial plays just like mcginest
@DrSJH159 3 жыл бұрын
Goal line stand baby
@christophercarton6566 3 жыл бұрын
McGinest was the man on the 96 team, and it's not surprising Belichick was smart enough to keep him around as long as he could with that phenomenal LB rotation for the early championship teams.
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 Жыл бұрын
@@christophercarton6566 Did he play OLB or DE
@christophercarton6566 Жыл бұрын
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 My recall is that he was an OLB who pretty much had his run of the field before guys like Izzo, Vrabel, and Colvin came along to make his job easier. Generally stayed in the box behind the line, but timed his pass rushes very well, and did not get fooled very often at all.
@christophercarton6566 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when that SI issue with John Hannah on the cover came out, when I was just a kid. It was the first time I saw an offensive lineman get that much praise, at a time when Payton, Dorsett, Swann, Staubach, and Bradshaw were the obvious stars. Even with the Patriots being up and down during his career, Hannah was always considered the best guard in the NFL, and probably the best O-lineman until Anthony Munoz came up from USC. It would not be unfair to say that Hannah was considered by many to have been the greatest player in franchise history before the 1990's. Not quite understanding Curtis Martin's omission, unless he's being punished for defecting to the enemy. I cannot say enough good things about Martin, and I'm so glad the Hall of Fame didn't take long to induct him. Also, back in the day, Sam "Bam" Cunningham, Randall's older brother, was a terrific RB, but didn't produce for enough seasons to make this list. Prior to 2001, he probably would have.
@christophercarton6566 3 жыл бұрын
@Harry Engel Just checked. Only 3. That would explain it.
@chrismas9448 3 жыл бұрын
Love my pats I didn’t know this was a list let’s go!
@AndrewWarrenPatriotsfan 3 жыл бұрын
As a Patriots fan, I think you should make a case for Richard Seymour or Logan Mankins being on this list.
@DrewRandIsCool 2 жыл бұрын
Dan Koppen also
@aspenrebel Жыл бұрын
@Nicholas Williams Oh he wasn't on thid list?
@williamnevins4425 Жыл бұрын
Matt Light was their best lineman during those super bowl runs..... Should be on the HOF
@EmmaBonn96 Жыл бұрын
Logan mankins should be talked about more for playing in the bellichick and Brady era for 9 years and not getting a ring.
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 2 жыл бұрын
Willie McGinest -new England’s 4th overall draft pick out of USC in 1994 -made the pro bowl at defensive end in 1996 -most career quarterback sacks in NFL playoff history (at both OLB & DE) -played thirteen seasons with the Cleveland Browns and New England Patriots (won three super bowl championship rings with the early 2000s Patriots) at DE & OLB
@camerenrandi 3 жыл бұрын
Great content. I always look forward to your uploads.
@isaacgreen3273 3 жыл бұрын
There will be more to come.
@Jondsmusic 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Patriots, from older to new! We're the best team and I'm a tried and true New Englander and fan until the end! GO PATS!!
@mscottlawrence2037 Жыл бұрын
I'm a bills fan but I like the patriots too
@ImRacistTowardsBlacks Жыл бұрын
Not the best team. The all time cowboys or all time Steelers would stomp the patriots
@robertorellana103 3 жыл бұрын
Why is Flula here he must have naked pictures of someone at NFL films. He is seriously not funny.
@beastoboi 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. These actors/actress and comedians are "wanna-be fans". They provide some shitty commentaries. NFL Films should only get commentaries from former players, sports analysts, sport radio hosts or sports writers 🤷♂️
@timothyhawkins5756 3 жыл бұрын
But nick Stevens is good
@Joseph-cu8lg 2 жыл бұрын
Julius Adams, Bruce Armstrong, Logan Mankins, Sam Cunningham, Drew Bledsoe, Steve Grogan, Jerod Mayo, Bill Lenkatis, Ben Coats, Russ Francis, Willie McGennist, Teddy Bruschi, Julian Edelman, Devin McCourty, Raymond Clayborn, Richard Seymour, Vince Wilfork, Mike Vrabel
@aspenrebel Жыл бұрын
Oh I forgot about Dr. Bill.
@jackcarraway4707 Жыл бұрын
My personal top 10, no order: 1. Drew Bledsoe 2. Andre Tippett 3. Vince Wilfork 4. Tedy Bruschi 5. Adam Vinatieri 6. Tom Brady 7. Julian Edelman 8. John Hannah 9. Rob Gronkowski 10. Troy Brown
@thenumberquelve158 3 жыл бұрын
Personally Troy Brown's always been my favorite player on this franchise. First of all he's just multitalented and a great addition to an already-loaded roster, very difficult for other teams to plan for. But to me he epitomizes Bill Belichick's coaching beautifully--if The Sith Lord has a player, he will know everything about how that player can play and how he can help the team win. So he'll try everything, and more often than not he'll be right, the player can execute what needs to be done.
@s.tavares3257 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.. and what I loved about his the most, despite not being a Pats fan, was he had absolutely zero ego.
@s.tavares3257 3 жыл бұрын
Him**
@christophercarton6566 3 жыл бұрын
The thing that came to mind for me: how many times did you ever hear about Troy Brown making a mistake?
@btone310 3 жыл бұрын
No Bledsoe? He was part of the reason the Pats went from trainwreck to a good team in the second half of the 90s. And before Gronk, there was Ben Coates. Why no Ben Coates?
@Gungho73 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Bledsoe was so beloved even after the Patriots won their 3rd with Brady you still had people arguing at tailgating and in local pubs that Bledsoe was better and just wasn't as fortunate to have the teams Brady did and would've won those too.
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 2 жыл бұрын
Irving Fryar former NFL WR Number one overall pick by The New England Patriots out of Nebraska in 1984 Played 8 seasons in New England Went to SBXX with the 1985 New England Patriots
@railenherman6482 Жыл бұрын
The only Top 10 where everybody already knew who #1 was before even clicking on the video.
@RETRO_BELL 3 жыл бұрын
Never been so sure about who is #1 on an episode of *NFL top10* list before...
@Joseph-cu8lg 2 жыл бұрын
Before Gronk, the Patriots were blessed with TEs Russ Francis and Ben Coats
@STP43FAN1 9 ай бұрын
In the Spirit Of 76 season Al Chandler #87 filled in when Francis got hurt
@TheEgganator324 Жыл бұрын
Drew Bledsoe should be on here
@pendragon2012 Жыл бұрын
Gronk at 3 is way too high. Kind of hard to believe Bledsoe didn't appear anywhere on the list. Obviously number one is Brady but Bledsoe was the guy who brought the franchise back to relevance and paved the way.
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 3 жыл бұрын
Drew Bledsoe Number one overall pick by the New England Patriots in 1993
@JosephCantu-qq1yr 7 ай бұрын
We've been blessed with tight ends from Russ Francis and even Don hasselbeck to Ben Coates to Rob gronkowski to even the Black sheep Hernandez, and maybe even Hunter Henry
@kylerush7948 5 ай бұрын
You just need a patriots top 10 lineman of all time cause there is so many who deserve to be on this list.
@Eqr36P 3 жыл бұрын
# 6 Ty Law got voted into the HOF in 2019
@clintfowler1526 Жыл бұрын
This list is a weird battle between great players on not so great teams in the 1970s and 1980s and the great players on the super bowl teams of the 2000s
@jessedellross3245 3 жыл бұрын
Gee I wonder who #1 is. Could it be the greatest QB ever and the only man to win as many SBs as teams have?
@MisterOmega7-wi6jw 6 ай бұрын
I was just thinking "You have to be really comfortable to have a lisp and say cinematic snow on NFL Network." Then I hear another lisp. How is it I watch almost all NFL top tens and I never hear a lisp and this vid has two.😊
@citieslostchild 3 жыл бұрын
wow Haynes what a stud
@christophercarton6566 3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable talent. Could have played in any era, under any rules.
@gabrieldodds9081 Жыл бұрын
the fact that we put a kicker who didnt play that long for them over vince wilfork is criminal
@villebryant4346 18 күн бұрын
Bruce armstrong deserves to be on that list & hall of fame nfl
@davidford4475 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh this has got to be the most obvious one in the series besides the Giants one😂 imagine doing a list like this for the Chicago Bulls cmon now
@notoriouseagle1074 2 жыл бұрын
Or the Edmonton Oilers
@bruceschwering5919 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised they didn’t find a way to somehow put Favre on this list .
@Joseph-cu8lg 2 жыл бұрын
I still think Morgan has a case for HOF. For his generation only Largent and Lofton were better. He has better stats than Branch, Swann, Pearson, etc. All for teams that didn't throw
@citieslostchild 3 жыл бұрын
ty Tom
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 3 жыл бұрын
Ty Law HOF Cornerback Intercepted 9 passes in 1998 as a Patriot Intercepted 38 passes in his 10 NFL seasons as a Patriot 22nd Overall draft pick by the New England Patriots in 1995 -intercepted 3 passes in a 2003 AFC conference championship game against the Indianapolis Colts Law should’ve been definitely higher
@darkroommeditations 6 ай бұрын
Bill Burr should’ve been a commentator on this list!
@d2axe7 3 жыл бұрын
How is Bledsoe not on this list?
@gabrieldodds9081 Жыл бұрын
because people think he sucked in hindsight
@Gungho73 Жыл бұрын
@@gabrieldodds9081 I don't necessarily think that's the case. There were people I remember distinctly in that area who felt Bledsoe could've done just as well and felt he was better in the early aughts. I think the problem for him was obviously Brady's legend just kept growing. But also its easy to see in hindsight objectively, as a non-NE fan, that Bledsoe was replaced not necessarily due to skill level but due to being a gunslinger mentality. He nearly got taken out on the same hit that gave Brady the job in the first place in the playoffs. He still kept making those decisions in games that you he and I knew were not right and he'd still try to make Farve blush (a tall task indeed). Bledsoe was a really good QB for them who never knew how hard to work to become an all time great, and had the awful luck to be followed by arguably the greatest to ever play.
@Born8etter Жыл бұрын
No Bruce Armstrong or Julius Adams ?? 🤦🏾♂️
@JosephCantu-qq1yr 7 ай бұрын
Funny thing is gronkowski is considered one of the smartest football players ever to play for Bill according to the Brady
@DrewRandIsCool 3 жыл бұрын
My boys
@keithsilvia8092 2 жыл бұрын
Tippet played strong side LB while Lawrence Taylor played weak side......Make's me wonder
@alexanderstockel6497 4 ай бұрын
Honorable mention : Drew Bledsoe
@shermanmi Жыл бұрын
Not having HOFer Richard Seymour on this list is an atrocity.
@michaelhession2105 Ай бұрын
36:14 I hate to tell you but that record was broken by the 2019 Ravens. But still for any team to rush for more than 3000 yards in a season is an amazing feat.
@soleman21 Ай бұрын
Drew Bledsoe does not make the list?
@fearlessstudios1 Жыл бұрын
Tony "sack McGee and Don Blackmon are extremely underrated players
@justinnardine8564 3 жыл бұрын
John Hannah and Logan Mankins best guards ever
@Gungho73 Жыл бұрын
I'd put their offensive line coach on there Dante Scarnecchia. It could be argued that he was the key to much of their success with his solid scheme. Players that left his scheme rarely turned out as good elsewhere I felt.
@gnquijada 5 ай бұрын
Troy Brown will forever be Mr. Everything
@johnskipper7060 Жыл бұрын
How about Sam Cunningham as an honorable mention
@alextracy9136 3 жыл бұрын
"That record will never be broken"... then came along the 2019 Baltimore Ravens
@Kyle_Hessler 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't break it though
@alextracy9136 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kyle_Hessler yes they did, 78 pats had 3165 and Ravens got 3296
@namesurname7172 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kyle_Hessler Big oof
@salamisumo2 3 жыл бұрын
Kyle Hessler They did though
@Staceyatkinson4496 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if John smith will be there, just for snow plough game
@Andy_Babb 6 ай бұрын
Imagine if Brady had 7-8 years of prime Cory Dillon? Aw yeah.
@Joseph-cu8lg 2 жыл бұрын
On third down you KNEW Brady to Troy Brown was golden
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 3 жыл бұрын
Irving Fryar Number one overall pick by the New England Patriots in 1984
@StFigarlandGarling Жыл бұрын
His best years were actually as a dolphin
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 24 күн бұрын
@@StFigarlandGarling You’re right 😅
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 2 жыл бұрын
Gronkowski is the polar opposite of the belichek way off the field (he’s on Nickelodeon and on the WWE) but on the field he’s one of the best TE in NFL history 2nd round pick by The New England Patriots out of The university of Arizona All pro selections perennial pro bowl player Super bowl champion
@citieslostchild 3 жыл бұрын
blown away by hannah
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 2 жыл бұрын
Why am I not seeing Raymond Claiborne on this list He and Ty law are the only Patriots in franchise history to intercept 36 passes with the franchise
@aspenrebel Жыл бұрын
Clayborn, I do believe. I forgot about him.
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 2 жыл бұрын
Ty Law HOF Cornerback 22nd overall draft pick by The New England Patriots in 1995 Intercepted 36 passes in New England at cornerback for 10 NFL seasons -in SBXXXVI Ty Law intercepted a pass for a touchdown return against the Saint Louis Rams (who had the NFL’s number one offense in 2001) -led the league in interceptions with 9 picks in 1998
@JosephCantu-qq1yr 7 ай бұрын
Tippet seems to me like LT without the Coke at least I hope not
@EmmaBonn96 Жыл бұрын
The patriots of the 80s were really underrated by history. We like to think that they didn’t wash on shore until the Brady bellichick era but they had a lot of talent. If they had kept Mike Haynes I think they have more playoff success. I don’t think he would’ve helped them beat the 85 bears but that was mostly a stylistic mismatch. The 46 demolished the run and didn’t give Grogan enough time to throw to Morgan, and the defense wasn’t as good against the run.
@EmmaBonn96 Жыл бұрын
Stylistically they were in a Rock Paper Scissors with the bears and dolphins.
@oswaldlupo7699 3 жыл бұрын
I so love how the depict TB12 like Voldemort in this list... "Maybe second to ' you know who'".. 😎
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 2 жыл бұрын
Lawyer Milloy NFL strong Safety Made All Pac Ten at linebacker with the 1995 University of Washington Huskies 3rd round draft pick by The New England Patriots in 1996 Went to 4 pro bowls and was a two time all pro strong Safety in his seven year stint with the Patriots Won SBXXXVI with the 2001 Patriots Intercepted a pass against the Steelers at Heinz Field in the final seconds of the 2001 AFC championship game (NE-24 PIT-17)
@billygreen7704 2 жыл бұрын
Where is Teddy Bruschi on this list???
@0danlee0 2 жыл бұрын
31:47 2x = you have been eaten by gronk
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 3 жыл бұрын
Why am I not seeing Ted Johnson Ben Coates or Lawyer Milloy?!
@aspenrebel Жыл бұрын
Leon Gray, side by side w Hog Hannah.
@citieslostchild 3 жыл бұрын
# 3 Tibbett
@marcuspope83 3 жыл бұрын
If they had a running game in the Grogan Morgan fryar era they would of been unstoppable and why isn't Drew Bledsoe on here
@EmmaBonn96 Жыл бұрын
They also had Tippet during that era
@salvadorvillagomez6781 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna like until I saw that there wasn't julian edelman
@moviegeek8586 2 жыл бұрын
Where the hell is Grogan?
@oldmanmob4659 2 жыл бұрын
steve grogan should be on this list. I don't understand how in hell they don't have him on it
@arjielemeaux8523 2 жыл бұрын
Richard Seymour has to be on this list
@JosephCantu-qq1yr 7 ай бұрын
I always remember on this long third Downs never for a second doubting that Troy Brown was going to pull the ball dowi People always call Edelman welker 2.0 what is Troy Browns game that edelman truly based his game on
@soulpatrolhawaii5409 Жыл бұрын
Russ "All World" Francis Richard Seymour Sam "Bam" Cunningham Willie McGinest Julian Edelman
@vailevi7869 2 жыл бұрын
Brady took New England to 10 super bowl and the only patriot to appear in all 10 super bowl, that's why he's the no.1 patriot player ever.
@aspenrebel Жыл бұрын
9 SBs.
@chrisuncleahmad 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s see how they rank the non-Brady guys on this list
@HipsterShiningArmor 3 жыл бұрын
Really they're just ranking 3 and down. As definitive as Tom Brady is at #1, John Hannah is just as clearly #2.
@StFigarlandGarling Жыл бұрын
@@HipsterShiningArmor I would say gronk is pretty clearly 3 😊
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 3 жыл бұрын
Bruce Armstrong, left tackle 22nd Overall draft pick by the New England Patriots in 1987
@slowbradfordcc8094 3 жыл бұрын
Where is Russ Francis and Mosi Tatupu?
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 3 жыл бұрын
@Harry Engel Francis played tight end with the Patriots in the 1970s Tatupu played on the 1985 Patriots in their playoff run to SBXX
@aspenrebel Жыл бұрын
Forgot about Mosi. Where's Mac Herron
@aspenrebel Жыл бұрын
@Fries Pats won 3 playoff games, all on the road, to get to SB.
@aspenrebel Жыл бұрын
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 but problem w Russ Francis, after he'd catch a ball all he had to do was get touched and he'd go down. He was top javelin thrower same as Terry Bradshaw.
@gyelmene Жыл бұрын
no teddy bruski? ?
@zempoallitahtli6609 3 жыл бұрын
Really? The top scorer in AFL history (Gino Cappelletti) is not in the list? And after all the punishment he endured, Steve Grogan isn't either? o_O
@notoriouseagle1074 3 жыл бұрын
@Harry Engel Capilletti was one of the greatest broadcasters the organization ever had. He and Gil Santos were awesome.
@aspenrebel Жыл бұрын
Babe Parilli.
@EmmaBonn96 Жыл бұрын
Lol remember when Tom Brady had 4 rings and was 38
@kodywatts6886 3 жыл бұрын
“All this cult of personality crap just play football” god forbid someone actually have a personality
@alecjoncas7764 Жыл бұрын
Just like they say “ppl forget the older players when making these lists” they are also living in the past too much. It’s so hard bc there are sooooo many great patriots, but this list needs to be made up of players who won more and some of the old players should be gone
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 3 жыл бұрын
No Fred Marion?!
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 3 жыл бұрын
How is Vince Wilfork not on that list?!
@mattfrancis6046 3 жыл бұрын
No idea. And the big fella belongs in the Hall, too.
@mattfrancis6046 3 жыл бұрын
Big Vince and/or Seymour should be in Nelson’s spot. Nothing against Nelson, and he was an excellent backer.
@aaronjackson9385 3 жыл бұрын
Nose tackle is a thankless position.
@aaronjackson9385 3 жыл бұрын
@Harry Engel of course. And its not a numbers position. Off hand, I can only remember Kelly Gregg producing significant numbers from that position.
@STP43FAN1 3 жыл бұрын
29:32. Ben Coates
@Channel-23s Жыл бұрын
I’d say Gronk is 2
@oldmanmob4659 2 жыл бұрын
Who every made this list doesn't know Patriots football where the F is steve grogan.
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 3 жыл бұрын
Willie McGinest OLB/DE/ Edge pass rusher -4th Overall draft pick by the New England Patriots in 1994
@citieslostchild 3 жыл бұрын
# 1 Stanley morgan
@JosephCantu-qq1yr 7 ай бұрын
I think Irving fryer was going to meet someone for a little something something he didn't seem like the kind of guy that planned ahead a lot. If you can't buy your coke before the game enough to get you through then you really shouldn't be in the league brother
@greatestbamafan 2 жыл бұрын
John Hannah should be #1 on the list.
@shrihithtalapaneni9227 3 жыл бұрын
The Patriots existed before 1994. Interesting.
@shrihithtalapaneni9227 3 жыл бұрын
@Harry Engel I was being mostly sarcastic.
@shrihithtalapaneni9227 3 жыл бұрын
@Harry Engel Ah ok then. Their history is basically useless until Parcells came. The only two things that happened were A. A fan ran onto the field and won them the game and B. They were AWFUL in the early 90s.
@shrihithtalapaneni9227 3 жыл бұрын
@Harry Engel Well, yes, but what do people remember about the 1985 SB. The Bears. They also think of how badly they were overwhelmed. Tbh, I wouldn't count a lot of the AFL stuff, since in a combined schedule a lot of those teams (early on, especially) would have been middle of the road in the NFL. And in 1976, it really isn't remembered that they were there. All people remember is that AFC Title. SideBar - I think they lose the SB that year but beat Pittsburgh since PITT had all their RBs injured. Pittsburgh would have won the SB if they were healthy (and no this isn't Mark Madden's burner account).
@aspenrebel Жыл бұрын
No!! Thats a lie!!
@aspenrebel Жыл бұрын
@Fries "a couple of champ games"??? I believe it was 1. 1963 AFL Champ game vs Chargers. They lost. Next was 1985 season SB vs Bears, they lost. Then 96 season SB vs Packers, they lost. That was it until 2001 season. They should have won it all in 1976.
@rootsmanuva82 2 жыл бұрын
Honorable Mentions: Bethel Johnson Tykwon Underwood N’Keal Harry JK 😂
@aspenrebel Жыл бұрын
Mac Herron, and Im not joking. Set NFL Record for most Combined yds in a season (rushing, receiving, kickoff returns, & punt returns).
@darksunday3012 2 жыл бұрын
No clue how Brady got #1 Paul Revere rode a horse to victory
@microwavedeggs2733 11 ай бұрын
No Seymour is criminal
@NeatoBurrito05 3 жыл бұрын
Edelman should be here
@aspenrebel Жыл бұрын
Wes Welker, 99 yd, 2 foot catch for TD.
@STP43FAN1 3 жыл бұрын
29:25
@orangefox1231 2 жыл бұрын
Gronk overrated imo. So much of him is dependent on Tom Brady. I think Matt Light or Logan Mankins deserved some talk. Richard Seymour absolutely needs to be on this list. And Mike Vrabel over Troy Brown tbh.
@dariansmith337 3 жыл бұрын
No drew Bledsoe
@MP-tf7cc Жыл бұрын
Wtf is Tom Curran talking about with Andre Tippett? 🙄 A.T is easily in the top 4, should be #3. Get a clue Tom.
@billbye715 3 жыл бұрын
The commentary on the more recent top tens is unbearably bad.
@hooverredman5167 3 жыл бұрын
People forget how much of a disappointment the patriots were before getting Tom Brady
@s.tavares3257 3 жыл бұрын
They were pretty good in 96’.. just ran into the Packers who were are better team.
@me6017 3 жыл бұрын
@Hector Rodriguez Just realized their 2 pre-Brady Super Bowl appearances were losses to NfC North teams. The Bears and Packers. Anyways, Bear Down.
@killalltogepis9916 3 жыл бұрын
Bill Belichick is/was more important to the Patriots success than Tom Brady was.
@EmmaBonn96 Жыл бұрын
They had a lot of great players in the 70s 80s and 90s
@TheWeallstandup 3 жыл бұрын
Moss Bruschi Wilfork Seymour Welker Edelman Dillon Martin ... None of these guys on the list?!? Seriously!!!
@christophercarton6566 3 жыл бұрын
Martin surprised me the most. If Welker makes the 4th quarter catch in SB 46, he might be on here. It's amazing that you'd have to explain to someone now that Brady was even more locked in with Welker than he was with Edelman. I'm a Giants fan, but Bruschi was my favorite Pat. He would have fit perfectly with Taylor, Banks, and Carson back in the day with us.
@mattfrancis6046 3 жыл бұрын
This list was made early 2016. If they updated it, Edelman would make it. Personally, I’d put Seymour in Nelson’s spot. Wilfork is probably my favorite Patriot ever. He belongs on that list and IMHO, in the HOF.
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