It’s just like the multiverse theory.

@@andyhorton4690 as Cell once said, "The multiverse theory's a bitch!"

yeah I love the 2003's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles too. But the Nickelodeon version's of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles from 2012 it wasn't that good!

Yess

and me

Me Too..... 2003 series was the best!

2k3 is the best iteration, maybe new IDW comics as comic books (haven't read yet)!

I know right!

Had the same question

The OG Hun is much better than the 2012 version of the character.

I get that all the versions in 2012 are younger than most other versions but Han just does not look as cool and intimidating in this as he did in his original version in 2003.

hun and kurai were both butchered outside of the 03 series

I agree with that. He is now more of an ally than a villain.

Let's be honest, the 1980s cartoon version of Slash was rather lame, especially since he looked almost nothing like his action figure counterpart, which actually appeared in the video games as a formidable boss enemy.

Casey Decker That's right, but in the 2003 iterations Leatherhead used to have rage moments where he couldn't control himself (at least at the beginning) and he was really dangerous.

But wouldn't same go for Bishop too, then? After all, he was more of an ally to the Turtles during Fast Forward season of 2003 series, and the whole 2012 series.

I must say I enjoy slash and letherhead as an ally/friend than a enemy

One of the best villain designs ever in my opinion. Dude was a MENACE and it was the best look the character has had yet

Actually I like 80s Shredder design. Simple but effective. Now if only he wasn’t an incompetent bufoon

Big time!

I prefer the human shredder actually.

Plot Twist or both

Or an alien.

I have a an idea for a brand new TMNT villain I was thinking since we already have a rat king I think why not also have a cockroach queen two who agrees?

Wingnut ,Screwloose, Dirtbag, and GroundChuck, Cromedome, The Glob Father, Triceratons, Antrax, Creepy Eddie, Mad Dog McMutt...Wally Airhead... i can Keep going..

Leather head and karai not villians

Bebop and Rocksteady my all time favs

@@guomana6196 it depends on what series of the turtles you are talking about

I have an idea for a brand new tmnt 🦹‍♀️ Was thinking 💭 we already have a rat king I think there should also be a cockroach 🪳 Queen 👸 too do Who agrees?

Though thanks to season 6, Baxter's arc is fulfilled beautifully!

D. Denson or at least not on time

Michelangelo: Pizza dude's got 30 seconds...

where the heck is 122 and a 8?

you're standing on it dude

I gotta get a new job.

You spoiled

Who didn't

Everyone did

Of course he was he is in every ninja turtle adaptation I mean name one that has no shredder

To night i dinner on turtle soup x>>>>>>>>>>>\

ikr

Yeah he made his debut on that show

max solis my reaction to this "Aw crud"

They ruined Hun in 2012.

yeah you don't remember how much of a dick he was in 2003

true

Duh

what about rodimus he's pretty cool and got his title rodimus prime from a disembodied voice of optimus in the original 1986 movie

true but which shredder

IKR

Yeah the 2012 series is really close story-wise to the original Mirage comics, which were recently reissued by IDW, if you can find them at your local comics store, go check them out, you won't be disappointed.

RastaSaiyaman Alright. I'll take your word for it.

Funny how TMNT is among the only franchises from the 80's that people actually love regardless of the era when He-Man and Ghostbusters clearly are 80's properties and while something while Transformers had chances again and again to also appeal to a modern audience, it still fails!

They made the Rat King very frightening in the 2012 version, like Willard turned up to 11.

I have a great idea for our brand new tmnt villain was thinking since we already have a rat king why not also have a cockroach queen who agrees?

Get over it.

Definitely

Bichael may.

how

I think you mean the "Racist Mutant Alien Explosions"

Bradford is in honorary mention

I was thinking that too, along with Tatsu from the early 90s TMNT movies.

Rahzar was in the list

@@secretperson1508 Timestamp?

Lol......

same 👍

The one is the best yes :-)! From your real life super hero from the Xtreme Justice League

totally agree

I like Baxter

nifinland that’s my favorite version of shredder also

The IDW hun is the best. And actually should've been #6 on this list just behind Karai. It took the concept of Hun from 2003 series and made it more complex and amazing!

The new design was based on Bruce Lee.

Did you know the Garbage man is Hun's half brother?

Mikeykitty123 because the 2003 series is underrated af it’s almost criminal

I have an idea for a brand new tmnt villain 🦹‍♀️ since we already have a Rat king 🤴 I figured why not also have a cockroach queen 👸 two Who agrees?

Oh burn sense that movie sucks I think they made this video because the new TMNT movie out of the shadows by Michael bay came out today a sequel to the first movie flop

Let's wait for the upcoming movie. I agree, the last one busted even my tolerance. But you shouldn't judge a book by its cover

I agree

Apparently, you're a young kid who doesnt remember the terrible teenage mutant ninja turtle musical.... Or the special Christmas musical for that matter.

Dumledaj Well, there are exceptions of course.

yep

+Zak Bergin oh yeah

+Sebastien O. their all in the new movie to the movie is amazing

It couldn't really have been anyone else

If you say so Micky. But you're forgetting Baxter Stockman is among the baddies. Who would've brought his mousers in bank heists?

He was an honorable mention though. I like him, he's like the Cad Bane of TMNT

Plus, Kirai, much like Leatherhead in the 2k3 & '12 incarnations and Agent Bishop when he's not trying to dissect the Turtles or seeing them as a hinderance to his government missions, is an anti-hero. Yes, she's served under Oroku "The Shredder" Saki as an enforcer, ninja assassin & possible adopted daughter, but there's also the thought that she's actually Splinter's daughter from when he was Hamato Yoshi (as the '12 series keeps the "Splinter is Hamato Yoshi" idea from the '87 cartoon, whereas other versions like the 2k3 series suggest that the rat sensai was just Hamato Yoshi's hyper-intelligent pet who learned everything from watching his owner & thus, passed on his knowledge to his adopted TMNT sons named after famous Renaissance artists) who was kidnapped by his arch nemesis & tricked into serving the once-noble Foot Clan gone bad after the walking cheese grater had overtaken leadership following Hamato Yoshi's exile & corrupted it into the criminal syndicate it has since been viewed as, whether it be through the use of actual human students made loyal through dangerous initiation practices, mutant minions relying on brute force more often than not (although some, like Tiger Claw from the 2k3 & '12 iterations, retain their intelligence despite being mutated, the overall majority are either brick dumb oafs from the start like the classic '87 cartoon versions of Bebop & Rocksteady or else, they lose their brilliance from the after effects of cross-mutation in the case of Baxter Stockman across both the '87 & '12 series after transforming into his Fly form) or legions of robotic Foot Soldier drones (which was primarily done for the '87 series to avoid our "Heroes in the Half-Shell" being shown violently attacking otherwise innocent but brainwashed human followers of old chrome dome, as some censors were already riding the Turtles' for the use of the word "ninja", never mind their use of dangerous weapons as a means of self-protection [namely, the UK, where the original '87 cartoon was forced to be retitled to "Teenage Mutant HERO Turtles" over the problem the UK had with the word "ninja" & even replaced Mikey's num-chuks with a grappling hook for whatever reason, yet were still okay with Leonardo wielding dual-bladed katana blades & Raphael using three-pronged sai often used to either stab one of tin can head's robotic minions when in close combat or otherwise tossed towards an oncoming adversary like the traditional ninja throwing star projectile from a distance], which could have - and probably did - lead to some children hurting each other when using their imaginations in roleplay scenarios when not just using their action figure toys - if they could afford any - to do mock fights, but rather pretending to be either the TMNT & their allies or the villains Shredder, Krang & their various minions themselves by either purchasing the official costume dress-up kits complete with plastic versions of Leo's katanas, Donnie's bo staff, Raph's sai or Mikey's num-chuks, otherwise made their own DYI TMNT gear with obviously handmade weapons that could only do the bare minimum of damage at best, or perhaps even if they were somehow extremely lucky to have parents that've studied up on & eventually trained in selective martial art styles enough to bother collecting actual ninjutsu weaponry & the children of these people somehow got their hands on the tools of the trade when such items should clearly be kept hidden away from young children until they're old enough to be trained in whatever technique they wish to learn [such as fencing, which allows for young pupils to learn how to be top-class swordspersons]).

Rare seeing someone like you here

I think it might be a bit of an exaggeration to call the Triceratons evil. Note that I'm only familiar with their 2003 and 2012 incarnations. The 2003 series... they're kind of evil, but no more so than the other faction that was trying to capture Honeycut. The 2012 series... they really just want to kill the Kraang, who are actually evil. The only thing that makes the Triceratons evil is that they will go to any drastic measure they deem necessary to take out the Kraang, even if that means getting billions of innocents while they're at it. And even then, it seems to only be the higher-ranked ones like Mozar that take such measures. Some of the lower-ranked Triceratons actually voice objections to the drastic measures, but are silenced.

Shredder then proceeds to die in the first story of the original comics, the second live action movie, and at the end of the 4th season of the 2012 cartoon.

Compucles so in the 2003, Ch'reel (Utrom Shredder) was sent to a frozen asteroid, and he didn't escape from there. in the 2003 show there are 3 SHREDDERS ! and Ch'reel was the 1st to appear, and the 1st to be definitevely defeated.

Yes, I'm aware that that alien abomination of a Shredder never died, which is why I didn't mention him. He along with the '87 Shredder are still just the exceptions, though.

yeah yeah son. fuck the 1987 one the 2003 show was better

+Demicky Harris it was

The best one

forever

1, 2, 3, 4 TURTLES

Or the IDW comics for that matter. Oh well.

Ikr!!!

yeah ik i actually laughed when i saw the 2012 little chinese hun but i mean we should be grateful that they even included anything from the 2003 series

True dat! I just wish he did look as if he went soft.

The version from 2012 is a joke he’s barely in it

and sound like bruce lee

2003 Hun was the best!

That small Asian dude can take Mikey and Casey Jones at the same time, and is actually, I dunno, good at fighting other than throwing around his elephant-on-steroids butt at the turtles!

well the utrom/demon/cyber Shredder is from the dark version of TMNT.... that's why it's very scary

TMNT 2003-2010 Shredders are my favorite versions of Shredders they just more cooler than other versions

***** agree with you.... Shredders from 2003-2010 version is my favorite too, The Shredder is better when he's darker than any TMNT series

Utrom Shredder is my favourite shredder : 3 simply hearing his leitmotif brings chills

Current is definitely most interesting, definitely has some of the best backstories and interactions.

His name is Hun

that hun was a boss

Fishface was my childhood favorite

Ik

Rahzar and fish face were mentioned tho cant said the same for tiger claw tho

@@Mikey-em8hs Rahzar was probably my favorite, just so freaky and cool

I thought that Hun looked like Jackie Chan

Akane Rumiko129 No I heard that the design is based from one of Bruce Lee's movies.

Weird how they don't even mention the 2003 Hun. Didn't he originate from that show?

+Bobby Pilster that explains a lot

EssentialChri5 yep

I am still trying to wrap my head around Sheamus as Rocksteady, lol. The first movie may have been an easy miss,... but I find myself oddly interested in the new one.

I never thought we'd see them all in a movie together either. Makes me want other villains like Hun, Bishop, Tigerclaw, Tokka, Rahzar, and Xever

Not really... Those four have been there for all the series' basically.

Dogpound was much cooler when he became Rahzar in the 2012 series anyway. Being voiced by Clancy Brown should've earned him a number 10 spot imo

Super Mahilo nah bc the 2012 is so crap that it would ruin 2003 series

​@@ivanostric3178 I am just going to say it. The '12 series is better than the 2k3 series. Fight me. The reason I say it is because that incarnation, much like the Turtles Forever movie crossover that predated it, was a love letter to all prior iterations of the franchise from the '84 comics, the campy '87-'96 cartoon that birthed the Turtles in Time/Hyperstone Heist classic videogame (later remade into a "Re-Shelled" port on the Xbox 360, although it was the Hyperstone Heist version from third-party developer SEGA rather than the more beloved SNES version, likely because Nintendo wouldn't play ball to let one of its console games cross-platform to rival consoles) & Playmates original toy line, the '90s movies made by The Jim Henson Company when the Muppet master was still alive to make animatronic puppetry a viable art form, the "Next Mutation" series that used cheaper costumed suits for the heroes & introduced female Turtle Venus De Milo to the roster (the "sister" of the Turtles had a lighter blue mask/bandanna & belt compared to Leo's darker shade and wielded stereotypical fan blade weapons, not unlike Mortal Kombat's Kitana, yet both she as a new wrinkle to the TMNT lore as well as the 4 guys themselves were overshadowed when they crossed over with the Power Rangers in a crossover episode, due to Haim Saban producing both shows), the 2k3 edgier reboot to the franchise, the 2007 CGI movie that departed radically from its source in an attempt to branch out the brand, the widely panned Michael Bay live-action versions that were initially meant to be displaced aliens rather than genuine mutated amphibians because Michael Bay's a stupid goober producer who wanted to pillage the franchise like he had done with Transformers & Nickelodeon's 2012 buyout of the whole pizza pie so to speak when Mirage Studios folded so that creators Eastman & Laird ultimately sold the assets to Nick's parent company Viacom, meanwhile simultaneously expanding upon the TMNT mythos by throwing in cameos & references to characters and plot points made throughout the history of the multi-versed franchise & reusing a remix of the '87 cartoon's classic earworm theme song ("Turtle Power") & initially using "Cowabunga" (the classic TMNT catchphrase) as a battle cry before finally opting to use "Boom-shaka-laka" instead just to be different.

@@TherealRNOwwfpooh im not going to read all of what you wrote, but i must admit that i typed my comment before i even watched 2012 series and i watched the whole series except the last season(i was 4-5 episodes in and it wasnt good as the first 4 seasons) because i actually enjoyed it, but its not even close to me. Tmnt 2003 had the best shredder ever(in my opinion best villian ever), and the 2012 complicated things too much, but its still a good series

He was easily one of my favorite villains in tmnt 2012

Especially that scene from Prodigal Son where Leo confronts Karai at the Foot HQ. Him with a level head while she was consumed with wanting revenge and the anger clouding her judgment, causing her defeat

Camilo Iribarren 779

I actually liked the 2012 cartoon version of Karai because of her character design and personality, and I also liked how she eventually became an ally of the Ninja Turtles after discovering the truth about her past, which was a very nice and clever concept for such a character who wasn't known that much outside of the Mirage Studios comics.

Hun was a good villain in the 2012 series, but I wouldn’t say top 10 tbh.

Karai being Splinter's daughter was a huge twist and the 2012 series made her character more compelling for it imo. The 2012 series imo is just as good if not better than the 2003 series

the guy was a brick

The version from the IDW comic was also quite threatening. There was also a lot of personal issues considering he's also Casey's father.

Agreed

Matt Piavis Hey, Matt. Do you know which episode of the ‘87 series where the Triceratons made an appearance?

episode 157 " Night of the Dark Turtle "- 1993

no, he's not. he's a big brute guy with blonde hair and a dragon tattoo on his left arm

@@Jmgjgdjd5 He was talking about 2012 version tho

@@cnarylmaz998 yeah, but that Hun is lame, 2003 Hun is the true version

That's what I was thinking, hell he even showed up in the later issues of the Mirage comics.

i was like wait why aren't they showing hun from the 2003 version yet they show other versions of characters like WTF

Big massive blonde tattooed badass, my childhood right there, he was scary AF

Kevin Nash was amazing as Super Shredder

Kevin Michael Richardson has a deep shredder voice

I loved James Saito as the original movie shredder he was awesome and also uncle Phil's shredder as well.

2nd best. 90s Shredder will always be best. David McCharen/James Saito.

Personally the shredder from the 2003 series is my favorite cause he actually had the feel of a real villain, though the 2012 iteration is a close second in my book

Have you seen how he's been used in the current IDW comic? He's like a god.

Yes i remember that

Danzinora Switch how what did he do

And then Shredder reappeared in the OG comics to be more specific TMNT: Leonardo Vol: 2 Issue: 1 where it's revealed he survived his seemingly Donatello assisted death by Thermite Grenade and during his time healing and training his hatred for the Turtles and Splinter intensified to terrifying new levels and he begins a successful 3-part plan for revenge he first sends the members of the Foot to their sewer-base attacking it forcing the Turtles and Splinter to go stay with April in her apartment, and then he hits Splinter and Leo with sneak attacks while they're outside he first goes after Splinter whom he KO's and leaves for dead at that water tower, and then he launches a vicious sneak attack on Leo beating him into a comatose state and then tossing his unconscious body through a window back into April's apartment and then orders a massive number of Foot Ninjas to attack Raph, Donnie, Mikey, and April and kill the comatose Leo thankfully Casey shows up to help Raph, Donnie, Mikey, and April to get Leo to safety and retreat but they barely escape as after Casey shows up Shredder immediately begins firebombing April's apartment with Molotov Cocktails setting it on fire. And the closing panels showing them retreating from the city with a comatose Leo and April's apartment burning in the distance and Splinter nowhere to be seen is a somber, grim ending showing that Shredder is back and deadlier then ever and sets up the iconic Rise from the Ashes story-arc where the Turtles head to April's family farm in order for Leo to heal and regain consciousness, and then train so they can return to New York, and kickstart the iconic sequel story-arc City at War.

I can see the entries for that list: April O'Neil Casey Jones Usagi Yonjimbo Mona Lisa Fugitoid Muck Man Carter

Slash? Leatherhead?

+Logan Chellman ehh depends on what version you're talking about. in most incarnations those 2 are enemies.

True, True.

Mondo Gecko Aliens from space during the space arc Mr Murakami That one other guy from the TMNT 2K14 movie Renet LeatherHead Those superheroes that Mikey befriended

No they didn't, his absence was deliberate... Oh wait, you mean as a villain. Yeah, but he's not a villain specific to the Ninja Turtles, he's a villain to pretty much any franchise he touches.

Elfos64 He's the villain to destroy our favorite childhood such as Transformers and TMNT. I don't care if he is the producer or the director but as long as his name appear, I don't wanna see his movies.

margareth michelina Yes, as I said, his villainy is not specific to the Ninja Turtles Franchise.

Yeah, but MB has a LOT to learn from Jar Jar Abrams...

@@margarethmichelina5146 I dunno. I would put M. Night Shalamylan above Michael Bay in terms of bastardizing brands (the live action Avatar movie [Warning: Netflix is apparently poised to do this now, too] & the thankfully aborted Tales from the Crypt reboot).

Tiger Claw's underated

Yep

I think his name is Hun

Agreed.

They should have used the version from the recent 2013 comic book series, in which he is Casey Jones' father. vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/3/39/Tmnt_hun_cvra.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130615192546

Yeah that's supposed to be Hun? Quite a change.

and anyone involved in tmnt 3

It was a one shot comic released right before the issue where the turtles met him. Also he doesn;t predate the TMNT since the first issue of TMNT was 1984 and the Futigoid one was 1985. They need better fact checkers.

Leatherhead was more of an ally than a villain

Rahzar was in honourable mention, sorta. 2012 series has Chris Bradford and Xever Montes as Shredder's main henchmen, which mutated into Dogpound and Fishface respectively. Dogpound however got a second mutagen bath in season 2 which turned him into Rahzar. There also was Tokka in season 4, but that incarnation wasn't a villain, not even a mutant. He/she was a snapping turtle -like volcanic alien kaiju that was a guardian of one of the pieces of the black hole generator. He/she died when the Triceratons launched a bunch of missles in a dwarf star causing a supernova.

Actually tohka is still alive.

@@nifinland in 2012 series she did not die and reappeared later on

@@sonaliagrawal3702 I know. The episode where Tokka came to Earth hadn't aired when I wrote my comment.

And a paper shredder

Definitely the wrong Hun. Also I've always wondered if Tatsu from the 90s films is supposed to be Hun.

Daniel Hughes Hun was created for the 4Kids series, so no.

I meant the other way about rather, is Hun meant to be Tatsu? Always just thought that. Then again Tatsu is a Martial Arts expert and Hun isn't really a skilled fighter, he just has brute strength.

Duke Spubber The 2003 one was a fatass. The new one can fight.

Hun is the number ten

And Typo on my part. That should have been killed Casey's father.

in old cartoon he was on Shredders side

Same

Same

Dunno. I mean in the show he's pretty much this intergalactic boogeyman that is feared throughout all of known space and has come to invade earth. However, he was only in it for the one season, only directly fought the turtles (going off memory) 2-3 times and the one thing the foiled his plan to assimilate earth was sunlight. The guy has the background and the feel to be a big bad, but lacks exposure really. Maybe he'll get some in the new series or even in a future series.

To me, best ffwd villain is definitely Zix. I really like how he tricks turtles into helping him all time, but I don't think any ffwd villain is really worth being in the top ten of the whole franchise, but if watchmojo was fair at least half of the list would be just 2k3 characters.

Lol, think how upset we'd all be if he wasn't? lol

Usagi? which I found out means rabbit in Japanese

+Tristan Walker Lol! That's cool. I legit pulled his name from memory. Should've googled b4 posting

He totally badass.

StrikerFX47 I wonder how super shredder would look in the Michael bay version

You said it Godzilla719. I like it better when Leatherhead is one of the good guys in 2003

+candycover He was a good guy in the comics, 2003 series, and 2012 series. The comics matter the most since they're the original creation of the turtles.

***** Leathrhead found out Dr Stockmann was working for the shredder the Utrom's enemy. Dr, Stockmann was using Leatherhead to get his revenge on the turtles! who know Dr. Stockmann accidentally spilled the beans! when Leatherhead was listening to the whole thing!

Yea, I thought for sure that showing them would be on account that they're in the list.

they were a one time thing made specifically for the second movie back in the 90s as a generic yet more terrifying version of beebop and rocksteady

Randall Coulson Nope, not true. That is where they started, but they became fan favorites and were in games and had toys and other things at the time. Although they weren't really around in anything past the '90s, that I know of, they were still very popular and should have been given an honorable mention. It would have made more sense to have them in one of the really low spots instead of one of the brand new characters.

Yet all the characters you see on this list are from the shows and movies and had more than just one appearance besides in a movie and one game

Randall Coulson Well, looking them up, Hun is a newer character than Tokka and Rahzar. They may have been created for the 2nd movie, but they were in the original cartoon, the 2003 show, and are apparently in the most recent one from 2012 as well as some games, I think it said 1 or 2 comics, and the toys. So yes, they deserved their honorable mention.