They needed something to keep Ross and Rachel apart and something to involve Joey... so it seemed like what it was, contrived.

They are better off as Friends

They were just friends and nothing more

But too rushed

Joey and Phoebe had great chemistry!

Ross is probably the most.. fictitious? Thing about that show? Just... people would not tolerate someone being that annoying / obsessive in real life and still have a working relationship (roommate / brother / friend / boyfriend / whatever) with him. That said, it's still a good show, and the fact that you buy it because David Schwim's charisma/chops sell it speaks to him.

@@dante6985 Ross was marriege for 7 years and he lost his wife, she cheated on him she hid her sexuality she literally abandoned him, and then she told him she was pregnant and he would not keep the child, and the child wouldnt have his name, So it was that bad he was insecure anxious and jealous?????

@@leonidasneves7972 thank you

@@dante6985 okay , i have to ask , what's your point ?

@@leonidasneves7972 I get how the show justifies it but yes, he should get counseling instead of taking it out on his friends,co-workers ("MY SANDWICH") and girlfriend left and right IRL. For the show, no not a bad thing, it's played for laughs and drama. For a real person who wants healthy relationships, yes, I think it's a bad thing.

its ok you can say ross and rachel

@@stalesourdough but they didn't do that.

Every known series with a trio of friends 2 guys & 1 girl someone just happens to have a crush on the other person in the group that person being oblivious while chasing after the "popular" guy/girl until they find out their friend loves them

@@stalesourdough just say you didn’t watch friends lol

Very true, but I still wanted Ross and Rachel to be together.

I actually agree! Monica and Chandler had the best romantic chemistry of all the leads, and I'm glad that Joey and Phoebe remained platonic pals, despite Matt and Lisa apparently wanting to write a joke about Joey and Phoebe engaging in a friends with benefits relationship.

I agree. But, the more I watched the more annoyed I was by how Monica treated Chandler. She would blurt out his secrets to their friends and make fun of him with them.

@@AnneettaLife haha yeah but that was just Monica being Monica, and that episode was hilarious.

What do you mean?Ross and Rachel were meant to be together from the first

actually the whole cast hated it and tried their best to get it axed but the writers and producers wouldn't listen to them

@@RyoUrawa777 i hated the storyline. it felt forced

Their relationship was weird & it never made any damn sense to me

Character growth? So, instead, the series ended with Rachel not growing and Joey not growing. Yay!

@@lant7123 i don't get it ? What's your point ?

Every one of these points, are just pure bliss! And *EXACTLY* what I've been screaming at the Buffyverse! The problem with Buffy and Riley was that it never had the 🔥 that Buffy and Angel did. Just before he left, Riley proceeded to gaslight her like a stray 🐕 at a fire hydrant.

Word!! And also, Riley could never handle that Spike wanted Buffy, and also the fact that Riley managed to get over Buffy, meet a new woman, and also get married in about one years time speaks for Riley being an a$s.... We still don't like him!!

Am I the only one that actually liked that couple?

God yes thank you for saying it first

@@ljmoore6780 ye I liked it too and it’s not it was randomly decided that they liked each other Fez has always liked her he became a tad less pervy and Jackie realized they actually had a lot in common and saw he was the only one who was ever really sweet to her so I think it made sense

Ooh so much ☕

Agreed

Your forgetting this is game of thrones incest was a big part of the show I mean all the Targaryens committed incest to keep the bloodline strong not to mention Jamie and Cersei were famous for there incest and the 3 children that resulted from that and you can’t really blame Jon and Dany they didn’t know they were related and I could be wrong but I think in the stark family tree there was incest there but I’m probably wrong there so I don’t think Jon would’ve minded I think if dany never went mad her and Jon would’ve been together I liked Jon and dany together the couples that disgusted me were Jamie and Cersei and Arya and Gendry

Bookwise, Starks married their cousins quite frequently, there were also some nephew-aunt and uncle-niece marriages around. The only "incest taboo" Westeros recognised is grandparent-child, parent-child, and sibling-sibling (tolerated for Targaryen marriages). It was forced and actors had none chemistry, but the real eww would be GRRM original plan - Arya and Jon falling in love... as they grew up as siblings.

I think in their case it's not the storyline, but the actors didn't show any chemistry at all.

@@saranemcova5448 that’s true so if they had enough time before the long night I think they could’ve figured it out and there could’ve been a slight chance of Dany not going mad

What does left for Kelso ? And season 8 was rushed and confused

@@lexkanyima2195 Kelso left to go work in Chicago as a security guard at the Playboy club, and to be near his daughter Betsy, whom he had with Brooke after a one night stand

There is no season 8. That 70s show ended with Hyde going to see Jackie at her hotel

@@msfriendsfan4ever788 he proposed, she said yes and they got married!

@Scotti Brown This is the best comment I've seen on this page 👏

Precisely, if the show was made today, Rachel and Ross might have moved onto other people who were actually better for them!

I think all the characters should have stayed in the "friend zone" and there was no chemistry for any of the couples. None of them were good couples.

@@josefk7437 what ? It's a good connection

Phoebe was the only smart one. She didn't date anyone inside the friend group and ended up with the best relationship out of all of them (Paul Rudd) (I know his name was Mike, but it's Paul Rudd)

Monica and Chandler are the best.

Sorry but Blair and Chuck we’re endgame & always will be better then Dan and Blair

Yeah, because we tuned in to watch Gossip Girl for the “healthy” relationships. 🙄

@@joshuaserrato3495 Just because you recognized that GG promoted toxic relationships doesn't mean that everyone else who watched it did as I've met quite a few people that began to idolized Chuck's abusive behavior due to the romantic rose colored lens the show put on it.

And so innapropriate and worst

True. I ship Chuck and Blair but I see Dan and Blair's chemistry. I was really happy they became a thing.

Hey dude , that's you again , and again you are totally right 😂👍

Or she decided to give Joey a chance

@@Missmagazinebura Even so, it just felt forced and her attraction to Joey came out of nowhere. I understand that Joey liked Rachel and thought she was pretty(i do too) They wanted to create something new after the whole Ross and Rachel misunderstandings earlier in season 9 and this seemed like a good opportunity to them. I don't blame the writers for trying it out, it's just that it felt weird to a lot of people. Matt Leblanc and Jen Aniston didn't like it either.

@@Noah_ol11 yeah so we meet again😂

@@abbygellman3423 yes thank you, that's exactly what I think because Joey had been flirting with Rachel all these years and his crush on her was well developed. It's just the writters needed something to keep Ross and Rachel apart so they spontaneously made her have feelings for Joey.

Facts. These people(apart from Monica and Chandler) needed to start dating outside the friend group. I would maybe have allowed Joey and Pheobe, but the rest is just...no.

@@tvcritics6526 hey dude , agree with you ( again 😅 ) Monica and Chandler are good for each other and they had chemistry , i would like to see Joey and Phoebe as a couple maybe , but that is all , nothing more...

@@Noah_ol11 I know like they hinted at or created so many weird combinations between the six friends and I'm like the show is called friends, not couples😂

Was hoping I wasn't the only one who felt this way,lol

I commented in support of them as well

Correction, Rachel started liking Ross and Joey only after learning they liked her AND were dating other people (Julie and Charlie).

@@katymvt haha

Agreed, even Matt and Jennifer confessed to feeling creepy filming those scenes, since they had a sibling like relationship!

@@trinaq but it was rushed out of nowhere

As frenemies they had amazing chemistry but as a romance...they were a flop

Nate and Serena didn’t have chemistry. Part of it was because the writers were forced to scrap Nate and Jenny due to chace Crawford not wanting to make out with a teenager

Thank heavens someone finally said it

Don't remind me how Dumb and Dumber did Braime so dirty because they couldn't get over their incest kink

I never watched Glee or Gossip Girl but no, Rachel and Joey had terrible chemistry. It was like watching siblings making out.

@@somuchsong You are right, as soon as a read other comments I knew I was wrong. My apology.

Agreed. But Mary and Ketch weren't a couple, they were just doing it. Dean cared about Lisa but wasn't in love with her. It's more about what she represented for him, a stable life, a family, and his connection with Ben was what really made him stay with her because he was like a son to him. Because had it been about being with someone he actually loved or had a connection with, it would have been Cassie. Moreover, Sam made him promise that he'd stay with Lisa because he thought that's what would make him happy but man Dean just couldn't wait to get back out. I mean, I liked Lisa but they just weren't a good fit. They come no where near the relationship and chemistry Dean shared with Cas. And i guess the reason people don't talk about Sam and Amelia is because no one remembers her, she was very forgettable. They could've erased that entire storyline and literally nothing in season 8 would've changed. They could've focused more screentime on the actual interesting Dean and Cas drama or the Crowley stuff or the Naomi stuff.

Omg! Bellamy!!

Exactly! For example people say Nick and Jess have great chemistry together but I just don't see it!

Add the fact that they were aunt and nephew made it more weird

I’d agree. There are couples in the Arrowverse that I’m not a fan off but will not say it due to Trolls & whatnot.

@@xwf1000v3 if it's Nate and Zari that wasn't exactly Murder on the Orient express. if it's Mr and Mrs Gym Shorts I'll say it for you. He was a sociopath, she was a narcissist, together they're two narcissistic sociopaths If it's Mr and Mrs Shark then we have a problem.

No it isn’t. I’d don’t watch Legends Of Tomorrow.

@@xwf1000v3 you should it's the best one.

Right!!

They had impeccable chemistry what are you talking about. Best friends to lovers, it was done very well. Stefan was much more likeable when he was with her, than when he was with Elena. They brought out the best in each other.

I kind of agree. I really wanted to like the because separately they each were my favourite male and female character but it just didn't work for me in the end especially because they play up Stefan's love for Elena so much that Caroline felt like a consolation price. Plus her chemistry with both Matt and Tyler felt much stronger. And definitely the same with Klaus although I'm not really a Klaroline fan.

Seconded, they already got on wonderfully as friends, and they're a pairing that NEVER should have happened! 😤

@@trinaq true , they were just good friends , they were made just for more episodes and even the actors hated it

Ikr? I mean I ship Destiel (because duh) and no couple matches their chemistry, but I was still so confused as to why he would stay with Lisa and not someone that he actually loved like Cassie from S1. I guess it was more about what she represented for him- a family, a stable life etc. Plus his connection with Ben made him stay, but there was just no spark there.

@@anandiganguly3086 couldn’t have said it better! Dean loved the idea of what Lisa could give him; but he never loved him like he loved Cassie or Cas.

Because Dan and Blair shouldn’t have happened

@@Missmagazinebura disagree, I felt that dan had treated her significantly better thank chuck did. They made for one of the healthiest relationships on the show

@@user-tw3fq4jh3p but Blair loved chuck

@@user-tw3fq4jh3p she was literally embarassed of him and she didn't want anyone to know they were even friends let alone a couple, how was it healthy in any way? Just because he was there for her doesn't mean they should make them a thing, it would be perfectly fine for them to just become friends

@@Missmagazinebura I knew that by the end of the show that Chuck and Blair were gonna become endgame. But I still can't forget how Chuck sold her like property, assaulted her. and overall brought the most immature version of her

I actually thought the doctor and Jess were pretty interesting together in a non-end game sort of way …

What do you mean by that ?

They were the what looks good in the begining does not mean it's lasting.

Exactly. They had no chemistry. He cared about Lisa but wasn't in love with her. It's more about what she represented for him, a stable life, a family, and his connection with Ben was what really made him stay with her because he was like a son to him. Because had it been about being with someone he actually loved or had a connection with, it would have been Cassie. Moreover, Sam made him promise that he'd stay with Lisa because he thought that's what would make him happy but man Dean just couldn't wait to get back out. I mean, I liked Lisa but they just weren't a good fit. They come no where near the relationship and chemistry Dean shared with Cas, but then again, very few couples do.

But I kinda agree with u

Me too !!

Me too or me three. In fact her and Pacey are in my top three most dislike ever tv coupling.

Dany is Jon's aunt though!

You and me both. I love Jon and Dany. And Dan and Blair.

@@Caroline-rv8wy but they fell in love before they knew it. And besides they still don't come close to being the grossest pairing on the show, considering Cersei and Jaime are not only brother and sister but actual twins

I like both tbh

Listen, i know i'm not gonna change what you think because i can't but im going to tell you my opinion about that blair and dan relationship.Ok first they hated each other blair treat him pretty badly she bully her sister and insult her best friend vanessa every single moment she can, blair use chuck to have sex with vanessa just for humaliate her in season 2 like blair is evil she's a bad person and i love her for that that's why she belong with chuck they both evil. Don't forget one think that everybody know about blair she's gold digger let's keep real blair will never be married or be with someone like humphrey the humphrey lifestyle it's not for blair waldorf like common she don't even treat dan as her equal. Like you guys think blair change in season 5 she have good characters development like no blair was just in trauma when she was with dan this girl was totally lost like she lost her baby in car accident, dan was just distraction at that time.

Exactly

I loved them together it unfortunately serena got in the way.

They were unbelievably wrong, but they had good chemistry tbf

Yesssssssss!

It doesn't make sense

Idk if this is actually true, but I read somewhere that most of the original writers and a couple of actors, say Ashton Kutcher and Topher Grace had already left the show when they were requested to continue. They all said no, so they hired news writers and they completely ruined the storylines that were already written. With so many unfortunate and poorly written plot twists and without Kelso and Eric, the show were pretty much downhill, ergo, worst season, horrible finale aaaaand Fez and Jackie together

Both couples sucked. Dean and Lisa I still get because the show never said that Dean's in love with Lisa and she's the one for her. It was pretty much about what she represented for him- a stable life, a family, normalcy etc. He cared about her sure, but he stayed mostly because a) he promised Sam b) his connection with Ben. But yeah, the whole Sam and Amelia storyline was pointless, it wasted so much time, I hated her character, they just didn't work well together, there was no chemistry and I had no idea why he was with her in the first place. I get the whole "shared grief" thing but God at what cost. Them and Cas and Hannah (not technically a couple but the writers were really trying something there and I was just screaming NOOO) because again zero chemistry, Cas was clearly not interested and they're siblings 😫🤧

It should have been Hyde

@@lar9299 i agree!

Don't think about it too hard

Yes, they are married with twins.