Wearable Fall 2024 Fashion Trends

Wearable Fall 2024 Fashion Trends | The Style Insider

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Wearable Fall 2024 Fashion Trends | The Style Insider
There’s nothing better than getting a jump start on the new season fashion trends to and that’s exactly what we’re doing in today's video. I know it may be early but I love sharing some of the key trends to help you prepare for the new season. And I don't know about you but Fall fashion is by far my favourite season to dress for. It's not too cold but it's also not too hot - it's just right. Anyway, if I hope you find a few new fashion trends to get excited about for Fall 2024.
I'd love to hear if you'll be wearing any of the trends I've featured in today's episode.
Thanks so much for watching too.
See you soon.
Leonie
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@Purple-ws9fn 19 күн бұрын

I just realized that fashion is always about what's coming, and almost never about what is.

@GoldenTherapeuticStyling 19 күн бұрын

They must create desire and forward motion. Good insight!

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

I hear you!

@marciagarcia8486 19 күн бұрын

This was such a prision. We were never allowed to enjoy the present moment. 😊 Happily changing this for good

@majbrittkjaer6134 19 күн бұрын

Indeed - fashion is what’s next and who knows first - Style is about how you wear beautiful clothes that fits your body with confidence..

@GirlGoneLux 10 күн бұрын

So very true. It can get exhausted unless it’s something you truly love

@marieoliphant8305 18 күн бұрын

Just placed an order for fall jeans. Who knows if they’ll be in or out? High waisted, wide leg. My favorite! I’ll be wearing no matter what the trend is. 😂

@Thestyleinsider. 17 күн бұрын

They sound perfect!

@GailKuzyszyn 20 күн бұрын

Thank you so much for doing this. A peek at fall and winter clothing makes me look forward to crisp fall days.

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching Gail x

@cristinapiano6190 19 күн бұрын

Agree ❤

@ssssssow8218 20 күн бұрын

Our summer just started yesterday in Switzerland because it’s been cool and rainy all season!! I’m not thinking fall clothes yet.

@mandychadwick9262 19 күн бұрын

😂..Same in England...ive worn nothing only jumpers and boots...

@larayne 19 күн бұрын

Fellow Swiss here!

@ssssssow8218 19 күн бұрын

@@mandychadwick9262 I know!! Crazy weather!

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Wow! That sounds like climate change in action :(

@teresajazey524 19 күн бұрын

Ours started last week in western Canada!!! Fall is not on my mind at all!!

@craftdiysbyyvette1686 17 күн бұрын

Never to early! I’m planing my fall travel wardrobe for an upcoming Europe trip. Thanks, perfect timing.

@Thestyleinsider. 16 күн бұрын

Perfect!

@comkver 20 күн бұрын

I was hoping to see snow leopard versus desert leopard. Will be keeping my eyes out for that.

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

I love snow leopard x

@annika8207 19 күн бұрын

I love the fact that we don’t have to kill any leopards or snowleopards, to be able to wear this! High skilled prints make all killing unneccecary! ❤️‍🔥 Bye from 🇸🇪

@leilariley936 20 күн бұрын

When in DOUBT....thank you so much,always so a joy to see you!! Now let's get down to fashion;I've always said/noticed that in fashion;what goes around,comes around;case in point....I have a few pieces,that hasn't been worn since I bought them,when they were on 'trend'!!Full skirts...oh yeah baby....always,always fun to wear a nice long pleated wool skirt in fall/winter with a nice pair of boots....check;I have those already(previous years).A motor leather jacket.....NEVER gets old!! I prefer a long coat,even though I'm tall,a pea coat cuts me off,and not in a complementary way.So there you have it...looks like I'm all set without actually spending a dime!!!Have a fantastic blessed weekend my dear!!!👏👏👏💕💕💕💕👗👗💯

@carrie1931 19 күн бұрын

Love Fall and I am already thinking about what to buy. The reality is that Fall Clothes hit the stores late July and they go fast!

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

That's SO true!

@cathylehman7538 20 күн бұрын

Ralph Lauren has his fall / party season out. Interesting color choices

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

I agree Cathy! x

@Jo-armadillo 18 күн бұрын

summer here got cancelled, we are moving straight to fall, perfect heads-up, thank you as always Leonie for your great research 🫶

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

Really? Where do you live?

@Jo-armadillo 16 күн бұрын

@@Thestyleinsider. Switzerland...it seems we might be getting some rays now finally...but it usually helps to hear your warm soothing voice talking about ideas for summer dressing, thank you for all your tips! so many points to always keep in mind, I will be watching again and again, have a great summer

@tanvikale3545 18 күн бұрын

Why can't designers create a collection for rainy season ? Not all countries have summer - fall - winter - spring , some have summer and rainy season . I would love to see some tips from Leone for rainy season

@MarlinNavarrete 20 күн бұрын

I enjoyed this video thank you, it turns out I have a few of these pieces in my closet already🎉

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

YAY!

@michellestr8998 16 күн бұрын

OK.. all of those are things I would wear in the winter anyhow, so good to see they are back.

@mrsholloman12 8 күн бұрын

I love animal prints but my fave is snake skin boots! Ppl think I’m crazy but my mom gave me a pair of snake skin pants with a black and gold belt I would wear them everyday if I could 🤣

@jackiebischoff605 20 күн бұрын

I love knowing this time of year! Thanks

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Yay!

@user-jv7ly9ek3u 2 күн бұрын

Well Joy!! I have a real brown fur <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="473">7:53</a> <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="474">7:54</a> I got in 1982- guess I can start wear😅no it again😂

@pinklaura1961 19 күн бұрын

I am in love with the fall skirts!❤

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

Me too!

@kjones2008 13 күн бұрын

I love your updates and trend reports Leonie. A good preview of whats to come if I need to replace anything as well as a sneak peak of “how” to wear something differently than I did previously. Like you, I appreciate the juxtaposition of mixing levels of refinement in my outfits. It is a much appreciated twist to this super classic style designers have embraced the last couple years.

@melissamorton4294 19 күн бұрын

I look forward to your fashion trends!

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Thank you x

@edoka118 19 күн бұрын

Currently in survival mode during a heatwave (35-40°C, so around 100°F, in Central European rental, typical block of flats which is 40+ years, no AC) watching a video w jackets/coats for comfort. Hope to cope!!!

@TheCJTok 19 күн бұрын

I ❤ fall and winter but it’s hard to look at these heavy coats and scarves without wanting to sweat. 🥵 It’s near 100f here in Oklahoma but thank goodness for Mr Carrier’s invention of air conditioning. Glad I wasn’t born in the pioneer days. I wouldn’t have made it without a/c. 😂

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

WOW that is HOT!

@kero6388 19 күн бұрын

Same temperatures in Milan! 🥵

@julesij8502 19 күн бұрын

On the flip side of that it was zero degrees yesterday morning in Christchurch (NZ). Oof!

@TheCJTok 19 күн бұрын

@@julesij8502 I love it when it’s that cold, 32F/0C. Means I can wear my boots, wool coat, leather gloves, cashmere sweaters and scarves. 🙂

@mstiff321 16 күн бұрын

Loving the elevated basics trend😍😍😍😍😍

@charlottejohnk6712 19 күн бұрын

This was packed with fun looks! I love the faux fur coats, very 40’s glam, and the cropped puffer with a full skirt is something I wouldn’t have considered but it works! The led mask is very cool, I have one from a different brand and I love the results. Great video as away and you look amazing❤!

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing Charlotte and the masks are great right!?

@airstreamer 19 күн бұрын

Thank you for the preview, fall will be here before we know it! - Michelle

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Sad but true!

@sharonerenaldo3466 16 күн бұрын

I live on Long Island (NY) and have been building a Classic Wardrobe for over 20 years. ALL of what you mentioned I have. I just need to add a classic piece of Fringe. Thanks for the Heads-up.

@cristinapiano6190 19 күн бұрын

Good to BE already prepared for whats comingnext. 🎉❤

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Yes indeed!

@srp8977 19 күн бұрын

No, this was right on time because fall merch is hitting the stores and summer merch is going on sale.

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Yay! That's great to hear x

@marieaxen645 20 күн бұрын

I loooove that you are early with your trend report Leonie! I was actually in our capital Stockholm today but I was waiting with the autum shopping of two reasons; the items has’nt come in the store jet (it’s still only summer sale) and your trend report hadn’t come out when I was going. So much value is the Work you do for me. Now I’m feeling update when the collections comes in store within the next month. So a extra big thank you for your trend report Leonie. /Marie from Sweden

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Oh thanks for that Marie - I'd LOVE to visit Stockholm one day. It's a bucket list destination for me x

@marieaxen645 19 күн бұрын

@@Thestyleinsider. You’re welcome. And welcome to Stockholm one day. I’ll give you my best tips when I’ll know it close in time to you come. So only tell me when the trip is booked and I help you. /Marie

@Kkazzo4124 19 күн бұрын

Thank you so much for another great video and updating us on the new trends ❤️❤️❤️

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Thanks so much for watching x

@angelwings8224 20 күн бұрын

Love it that your looking forward, I've been excited to find out the autumn, winter fashion. Thanks ❤

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

Thank you! Fall clothes will start appearing in stores very soon so I wanted to get the jump on that happening x

@laurielenig9939 14 күн бұрын

Clothing people are always crafting 6 months ahead. They HAVE to!

@d.y.e3803 19 күн бұрын

Thanks for the heads up on the Fall 2024 fashions although it's difficult to think of fall when I just got home from being out in 92F/33.3C weather. But, onward and upward. Peacoats!!! I couldn't be happier. I searched high and low for the right one throughout 2022 and 2023 and then finally decided on the 2023 Sandro-Paris navy blue peacoat with brass-colored buttons. It's cut oversized, but I really wanted a more traditional nautical style fitted peacoat like I wore for years starting in childhood. Fond memories of peacoats. I might check Saint James-Paris in the fall as that's one of my regular clothing companies. As for the Fall 2024 colors, I'm glad that red is still strong and I've also loved shades of green. That Sacai coat is 🔥. I love Sacai and have some of Chitose Abe's pieces. As for leopard print, it's been a stable in my wardrobe for many decades. I still have my quilted Patrick Kelly leopard coat which I bought in Paris in the late 1980s and which is also very rare now. I have a section of leopard coats, jackets, sweatshirts, footwear, belts, etc and also in cheetah prints. It will be exciting to see what leopard pieces come out in Fall 2024. Great job, Leonie! Thumbs up! Greetings from Los Angeles

@MattersonSumlar 3 күн бұрын

The variety of textures in the kislux pack is impressive. From smooth leather to textured suede, there's something for everyone.

@dawndouglas1127 19 күн бұрын

I appreciate the heads-up for fall Your pretty in pink is refreshing 😊

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

Thank you Dawn x

@cherylbalint3083 18 күн бұрын

I’m definitely in a fall mood! Thank you for this!!

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

You're so welcome!

@Kelly-pp1et 23 сағат бұрын

Try living in the present moment. We are in the middle of summer

@Trissa.33 19 күн бұрын

Wow the mask looks super other wordly 🧡it's rather like a beautiful piece of jewellery.. maybe we'll be seeing those on the runway soon!

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Yes it is actually really beautiful x

@kathleenyates-mu1iq 15 күн бұрын

That mask looks really cool on you! I have the simpler model but that sounds like a really good investment piece! Great to see leopard coats coming back into fashion, I get the chance to rock mine again!

@kero6388 19 күн бұрын

Thanks, Leonie! Love them all!

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

Yay! Thanks for watching x

@ilovelucytheboston 15 күн бұрын

Yay! My pea coats have wanted to come back out to play

@DeeDee-44 19 күн бұрын

Puffas, like wearing a sleeping bag. So cosy.

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

SO cosy!

@thiennganielson1588 16 күн бұрын

Thanks for the heads start!

@Thestyleinsider. 15 күн бұрын

Any time! 😘

@annan.3283 19 күн бұрын

I'll save this video to watch in September.

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Perfect!

@barbc7211 19 күн бұрын

Thanks for the forward looking video Leonie !! It’s 36 degrees today here :) ❤

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

Oh wow!

@deirdrewalsh1134 4 күн бұрын

It’s Winter here -Melbourne. It’s fun to tweak my outfits a bit with inspirations here. Thank you.

@CowenSuper 4 күн бұрын

I love kislux that on the butterfly bag it says auguri / tanti auguri which means happy birthday

@gwenbardon6025 16 күн бұрын

I haven’t worn my leopard coat in a few seasons and excited to see it trending again

@kimberlyperrotis8962 20 күн бұрын

I love pea coats, I’m glad they’re back. I bought a navy-blue, 100% wool pea coat from L.L.Bean last year. It’s nice, but I didn’t realize that it also has insulation in it, so it’s too warm for most weather where I live. I would love to find a burgundy one, or a khaki- or forest-green one for this autumn/winter. Saint James, the original French Mariniere (“Breton Stripe” sweater/knit top) brand, has some, but I only saw them in navy last year and they are quite expensive (US $700?), but beautiful quality.

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

Oooh that is expensive!

@tileremovalnewcastle4859 10 күн бұрын

You're a true talent; keep up the amazing work!

@ElizaBeth-ve6nz 19 күн бұрын

❤ Love this.

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Yay! Thanks for watching x

@soitsmelaura 12 күн бұрын

Such fun looks

@Thestyleinsider. 10 күн бұрын

Yay!

@okysssodaigui7043 19 күн бұрын

Hi Leonie, love your videos. Your skin looks great.

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

Thanks so much

@ivetakunstberga6329 19 күн бұрын

Beautiful!❤

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching x

@susanmcdowell2499 19 күн бұрын

Great summary...enjoy your trend posts thank you! Sad to see fur back...can only hope people choose faux furs. Finally leopard/ animal print is back...was wondering when it would make a return. Not sure if I'm feeling it yet...maybe by the time our Australian autumn comes around🙂

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Yes I'm sure it will be mostly faux fur :)

@cg50621Q 4 күн бұрын

@@Thestyleinsider. Love you work, and would also have appreciated a call out for faux here. We should be well past cruelty as fashion. Thanks for all you do!

@VeliaPronovost 2 күн бұрын

My friend's waist bag is from H Q D U P S. I also like designer bags. But they are too expensive. I will definitely buy a few more because they are very practical!

@purplethumb7887 5 күн бұрын

I have always loved animal print -- in moderation, not the full-body or mixed animal print, so I am very happy about the leopard print.

@majbrittkjaer6134 19 күн бұрын

Great peak into the fall. Could you do one on the shilouettes /cuts and details that are making things modern - since as in the last years there are many options, but still some cuts and details makes or break ie a fur or puffer coat.. thanks

@CamilleMason 19 күн бұрын

Yayyy fall

@ginamarie5575 19 күн бұрын

Thx already buying for fall for my online sales business 😊❤😅

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Oh great!

@juliannerogers5283 13 күн бұрын

Summer is my favorite season, i try not to think about fall until the end of September

@lyzettevega1234 7 күн бұрын

Very thankful ❤

@biharisauce6173 19 күн бұрын

I'm busty so puffer jackets are huge no for me, but I might dabble into quilted jacket specially the longer ones... I don't care if they are in fashion in coming season, I'll definitely want to own it

@TheCJTok 19 күн бұрын

@vsylve01 13 күн бұрын

I live for fringe!

@kimberlyperrotis8962 20 күн бұрын

I have a full autumn/winter wardrobe, but I might not be able to resist adding a few of these new items! I have a big weakness for coats and blazers, or similar jackets, in 100% wool, with a breathable lining. Thanks, Leonie❤

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

The pea coats are adorable!

@Sal79. 18 күн бұрын

Ah makes me a little sad. We’re waiting desperately for summer to arrive here in UK, haven’t even worn our summer items yet but fashion world is already moving into fall/Autumn items. Thanks though, maybe time to can the idea of Summer and just move on 😊

@tonidavie3635 19 күн бұрын

Please could you do a follow up piece with using items from your wardrobe so we could see the trend in real life

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Sadly I don't own all of the items but I def aim to do try ons when I can x

@kimberlyperrotis8962 20 күн бұрын

I like full skirts so long as they don’t add bulk around the middle. I probably won’t go for a gathered style, for example. Nor a maxi-length; as pretty as they are, I don’t want to buy any more maxi skirts or dresses, they’re just not practical, especially if they’re full-skirted. I have a three-story house and carry things up and down on almost every trip, I just don’t have two free hands to lift a long, full skirt. They also get caught in car doors, etc. i’m petite and every maxi skirt or dress has to be shortened. But, I got a bit of sticker shock when my tailor charged me $60 yesterday to hem a narrow linen dress, it’s quite a simple job. I would and should have done it myself, but I hate to sew when we’re in a 40C heat wave, as we have been here in California for two weeks. My patience is too easily exhausted in a 90F room! I would love to find some gored full skirts, these are always flattering because they’re slim on the tummy and hip areas, only full near the hem. I had a denim one I loved, but just lost too many sizes to fit it anymore. I’m happy to be thin, but I do miss many of my “old friend” clothes that just couldn’t be altered enough to fit me now.

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

That's definitely the downside to go up or down clothing sizes :(

@nicolemaddison2945 19 күн бұрын

I'm into winter in Aus. Now I'm 6 months ahead. Cheers

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Yippee!

@petergeorge4415 17 күн бұрын

Always fabulous to have a look at what seems to be coming.... Thank you so much Ms Leonie! Truly appreciated and...something for every taste ! ;) helene

@Thestyleinsider. 17 күн бұрын

Glad you think so Helene x

@boulinkaterina 3 күн бұрын

I love your earrings ! Can you tell some more?

@user-ir5nt6ng6y 20 күн бұрын

❤❤❤

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching x

@donnamcdermott443 20 күн бұрын

Did foreo base that design on iron man 😂

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Yes I think they did LOL x

@Kristiehornbuckle 21 сағат бұрын

Nordstroms July sale is for fall so not to early at all

@segourneysavery5126 5 күн бұрын

💚

@Cookie7294 19 күн бұрын

A cropped puffer jacket is useless at minus 20 celsius. Suggestion: A knee length puffer in leopard print, combine 2 trends.😅

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Perfect!

@danielleg1504 4 күн бұрын

Any sign of yellows on these fall runways? 🤞

@sherrimciver8859 6 күн бұрын

Autumn

@giedrebey5444 19 күн бұрын

These trends , dont really excite me. Full skirt I have , that’s one of a few pieces what is left from my Chanel collection. I sold most , it’s too boring, not edgy enough, so I replaced with old Celine archives😜. Puffer I don’t care for. I have quite big shoulders and hips, and that doesn’t go well🤪 colors , I love red but more for summer, I prefer burgundy for fall, and other color that i am obsessed right now is very pale pink, on the cool side of colors.. moto jacket i never care for, but I might entertain, if I find the right one. Coats I do not need too many in SF . And on my list is from old Celine archives. Have a blessed day🙏❤️

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Where do you buy your archival pieces? I'd love to know x

@Rosie-lj4xo 18 күн бұрын

I think it maybe too early for fall... on the runaway.... but anyway it's still a helpful information.

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching Rosie x

@Rosie-lj4xo 18 күн бұрын

@@Thestyleinsider. I’m so happy to find your channel, please keep uploading more video!

@too9593 19 күн бұрын

Girl not fall already lol

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

I know right!

@ufosrus 17 күн бұрын

Fur coats??? 😳 I thought we were over that! 🙄 Oh no, animal prints again? Grrrr ... Leonie looks great wearing bright pink. 🩷

@handsomegirly 10 күн бұрын

Plaid and animal print is gonna be huge this fall

@betty4gators 19 күн бұрын

The Prada pee coat is so great - just perfect for those of us who live in Florida. I love the ideal of the full skirt but I really hate run way look of the skirts. Runway is so pretentious from the "it" races of the models used to the push of certain looks that in no way translate to real life. I understand runway is mostly fantasy but many of us would prefer the majority of the show to be real-life with just a couple of looks in the fantasy genre.

@tonidavie3635 19 күн бұрын

Please can you do a 30day follow up to the LED face mask. I am interested but it’s a lot of money

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Okay that's an interesting idea. Did you want like a before and after type thing?

@alikat8221 3 күн бұрын

Idk what’s going on with the face filter in the Foreo ad. portion; it seems to blur and homogenise the entire forehead and cheeks, but fail in the chin and periorbital area 😖

@vtcs1963 19 күн бұрын

This video made me sad. I love the clothes I’m wearing now and that I’ve been wearing the last few seasons, but these fall and winter clothes look awful. I guess I will be unfashionable.

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Oh gosh no this is only the tip of the iceberg x

@darlenemahaney1258 18 күн бұрын

This must be hard for you, living in a different hemisphere than the majority of your viewers.

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

It's surprisingly easy really as we are in cold weather currently and when I worked in magazines we always worked six months ahead so it kinda feels normal x

@imeldameneses9567 18 күн бұрын

Too early hahaha still summer you are far too early

@user-dy1sm6or3s 16 күн бұрын

O God! I'm shocked that fur is still in fashion!😡

@gardensandbees6586 12 күн бұрын

Let's hope that's all fake fur..... 🤨🤨🤨

@Thestyleinsider. 10 күн бұрын

Definitely! I don't know of anyone buying real fur these days x

@Dot-g2t 6 күн бұрын

Porque é que estas empresas de bens de luxo não melhoram a sua qualidade até um ponto em que sejam menos susceptíveis à contrafacção? Não é este um problema que eles têm que enfrentar? Em vez de pagar US$ 200 para comprar uma réplica perfeita, a H Q D U P S me ajudou muito.

@manonlaviggne1085 5 күн бұрын

There is so much blah blah that I almost fell asleep

@kristinakors8641 19 күн бұрын

Fur coats?... Me, who believed that promoting cruelty was left behind...

@carrie1931 19 күн бұрын

Faux Fur is best! Defiantly never want to wear real fur.

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Oh goodness of course they are faux!!

@laurielenig9939 14 күн бұрын

You mean definitely

@ramonaremesat9673 14 күн бұрын

👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻 to fur coats.

@over50sunite68 19 күн бұрын

I hope all that fur is faux fur. The return of it is absolutely not to be celebrated. I’m at the stage where fur is so repulsive because of the cruelty involved I don’t even like faux fur

@Thestyleinsider. 18 күн бұрын

Definitely faux!

@uhhuuhhuhuhhh 19 күн бұрын

Fur....boooo. there are plenty of options that don't support cruelty for the sake of fashion

@Thestyleinsider. 19 күн бұрын

Oh gosh I thought I didn't have to constantly state that it is faux fur but it seems I do :(

@lindah.8564 13 күн бұрын

@@Thestyleinsider.I can only shake my head, as almost, if not all fashion houses only make faux fur clothing items today, but maybe some people miss that memo at some point!