Almost all of them are anime cards from DM and GX. Because writers make up hyper circumstancial cards that will never work in a realistic scenario. Anime cards have A long history of being trash

Its onky during 5ds the vault ..or pandora's box has been opened

The way you worded the ruling seems to me like the Cyber Dragon monsters who are treated as Cyber Dragon while on the field are excluded. Is this how it currently works?

​@@SmittyWerbenjagermanjensen_1 it's a super nitpick because the card name is "Cyber Dragon", with no 's' in quotes. But the card text in PGU mentions "Cyber Dragons". There is no Card named "Cyber dragons", so nothing for furfills the conditions. Note the 's' being in quotes there. This wouldn't matter in the OCG because Japan doesn't traditionally have plurality. So call it a localization error lol.

He has Short talking about this

@@raze2012_ thanks, but I didn‘t ask for clarification why the english localization of the card technically doesn‘t work. That was clear to me. I was thinking about the difference between the first harpie support and the Cyber Dragon stuff. Harpie #1 is alway Harpie whereas the Proto Cyber Dragon is just treated as Cyber Dragon while on it‘s on field. I‘m pretty sure the Harpies where supposed to act as additional copies of the vanilla one and not replace her. But due to the wording it just doesn‘t work as intended … so my question is: is the ruling worded in a way that it specifically requires the OG 5-star Cyber Dragon and only him or are all the Cydra support cards valid targets when on field and treated as Cydra? So basically does a ruling create a difference between name printed on card and name treated as something?

@@SmittyWerbenjagermanjensen_1 I dunno for sure. Since you were rude I decided to specifically check for the official quote. All I can find is: "Photon Generator Unit" does not select a target. So you can figure it out from there, I guess

Oof

It's just Konami teaching you how to properly use Rainbow Dragon - don't, play good cards instead.

So the Master Emerald of the archetype is only good for giving Neos a Super Form.

Hopefullyva plan to change it to "having 7+ "Crystal Beast" cards with different names" is made.

Apparently its a bug I just read a forum where a guy reported this to a couple judges who both mention it shouldn't matter but for some reason it's not allowing it even though the card never specifies it has to be exactly 7 different names

Can I ask what games you’re making?

@sammyhain I'm heavily inspired by Warcraft, but I hate that over the time it reigned, it never truly innovated and showed us what it could be. My plan is to make a large-scale online rpg that features mmo-like elements but prioritizes 1. Combat 2. Non-linear progression 3. Exploration & engagement But I also have a mini game within it that is a card game, so the necessity to understand the fundamentals of good TCG play is important to me. Right now I only work on the card game to relax from my other work. This is just fun to me, and I love design.

​@@XeroXenTruSin ok. I'm interested on it

@@XeroXenTruSin it might be fun to have to like explore/battle for rare cards that you can use for mini game or even buffs and items

Anime Monster Recover is a self bootleg Fiber Jar. Actually good and was nerfed to the ground

Ring of defense definitely didn't get translated to the real card game correctly

I don't know about "unhinged" but it certainly caused some mental whiplash!

It's not even an errata issue, the first printing itself had the problem that in prevented ALL effect damage and not just effect damage to you like in the anime.

For early jar based strategies they'd usually try to mill out the opponent in one single turn through card destruction. The main idea back then was to fill up your opponent's hand like crazy by activating cyber jar multiple times during your turn (through book of moon and tayou usually) so the opponent would end up with 10+ hand cards, after which you'd use card destruction and force your opponent to draw 10+ cards again before finishing off with a way to recycle card destruction and use it again, decking out your opponent. The reason this combo needs to go off in a single turn is because if you ever let your opponent have an end phase, they will discard down to 6 and your card destructions will be much weaker. So even in a jar based mill strategy soul reversal wasn't useful.

​@@nicolaistuhlmuller8718Agreed. What i did was a poor attempt since i didnt considering using books during the time i slotted Reversal However, reversal did offer me enough to work with. But i would STILL say its not that good. I guess my disagreement with DuelLogs is just on how high the card was placed... but the card does deserve to BE in the list 😅

Not sure if the anime effect of Spell of Pain is a straight upgrade, the real version cannot be used on your own card like Ring of Destruction and the anime also didn't use it on their own card, it was used on the enemies monster damage/Ring of Destruction. We don't know for sure if the anime effect has the "opponent card only " restriction or not.

Yup, its better but still bad

@@Briskeeeen I mean what would I need to do to further improve it? I’d say the card can do its intended function plenty better now (can be activated from the GY or the turn it’s set, shuffle itself into the deck afterwards for future reuse, works with monster and spell effects also now, and can negate battle damage.)

_When an effect that inflicts damage is activated: Negate that effect, and if you do, gain LP equal to that damage, then, if you gained at least 1000 LP with this effect, draw 1 card._ Still bad, but at least it's kinda usable i guess

​@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFireno I mean the effect is fundamentally bad. There isn't anyway to improve it because effects that deal with battle and effect damage are bad in Yu-Gi-Oh

@@Briskeeeen I mean with the way the card works, you can activate from your hand the first time like normal, then do it again from your GY. So that’s 2 instances of Battle/Effect damage you can negate per copy of ROS, or up 6 instances if you have all 3 copies in your hand. That would probably screw over A LOT of OTK strats.

It's legal where I live! 😂

@@Scynide Oh, same here. Lol. I just liked his wording. 😆

A better idea would be to retrain Cyber Laser Dragon into a Link monster. I devised a Link 3 with Y arrows (upper diagonals and straight down) that would retain the spirit of the monster. Before you complain about the Y arrows, here's the effect I had: 2+ "Cyber Dragon" This card's name is treated as "Cyber Dragon" while on the field or in the GY. This card must be summoned to an Extra Monster Zone. All "Cyber Dragon" monsters you control inflict piercing battle damage. Once per turn, you may activate one of the following effects: - Banish 1 card this card points to - Destroy 1 monster on the field with ATK less than or equal to this card. Because of the line "Must be summoned to an Extra Monster Zone", it cannot be used towards a 3 card Extra Link as the card in the middle without excessive effort to move it after being summoned.

@@azuredragoon2054 Would it be a Machine or Cyberse monster (since you can’t really spell “Cyberse” without Cyber, and the Cyberse and Link types have a lot of interplay anyway.)

@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire Machine,of course!

@@taninsuwannatri8411 I don’t know, “Cyberse Dragon” has a nice ring to it, don’t you think? Ah but if only YuGiOh monsters took a page from Magic or the Pokémon Video Games and had monsters with multiple main types.

@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire Machine, just like Seiger and the OG Cyber Laser Dragon.

I think it could see some play... but not wide spread. Most jar cards are limited / semi limited and many T1 decks have their own archetypal ways to draw / increase their consistency. I dont see Jars splashed in decks as often as i did before

Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring pretty much neutralizes all the Pots and Jars so

This last part is way too op man

Sorry, your problem.

He got that mashed potato muscle tone

Early card designers had clearly never seen a bodybuilder in their lives.

Edo/Aster

Back in the day Solemn Judgment wasn't "considered" good. It was still good people were just being too cautious. Modern Goat format decks very often run a set of Solemn Judgment because hindsight it WAS worth half your life points if it stopped a blowout

It would be a better ritual monster in that situation... (at least, better in early 2000s ritual monster standards which is... not saying much) But i do agree it could. 2 Cyber dragons at that time where there were only 2 that had the actual name (Cyber Dragon and the Prototype Cyber Dragon, which changes its name when in the field) makes it too cumbersome to use. For all that effort... just slot in a power bond and a cyber twin dragon in your extra deck. If only 1 was required, upgrading a 2100 ATK to a 2400 Atk with destruction effect... or a 1100 ATK to a 2400 ATK, would have been pretty good

I would say it would get SOME use... but not a whole lot. Not all decks and rely on flip cards... and the one flip card that i can see this new version can abuse is Pot of the Forbidden... but not all decks can slot that in Meanwhile, Flip-based archetypes like Subterrors have their own means of recovery... so it may be redundant. If back in the GX era where Cyberjar was still legal at 1 and the game was really slow... then yea... i can see it being useful for an Empty Jar deck

@@bluedestiny2710 Well, would a Snake Rain for Flip Monsters help in that regard?

@@kennydarmawan13 i think it would, Honestly... im shocked that snake rain hasnt completely broken into the meta yet... then again, i have stopped playing YGO for about year now so maybe im missing something?

@@bluedestiny2710 Ogdoadic was the first archetype to use that. And man, they held back a lot.

soon

The Pikeru trap is infinitly better and it's not good either.

There’s a Marijuana joke in there somewhere, but I’ll pass on the low hanging fruit for once.

@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire already made it :^)

No, monster recovery exclusively states "cards you shuffled from your hand", so with one monster on the field, a set monster recovery and 5 in hand you have 7 cards. You then activate monster recovery, bringing you down to 6, then shuffle the monster and hand into your deck, draw 5 cards and have 2 less than before.

Except that the deck doesn't want you using spells or traps, or at the very least ones that you can't remove from the graveyard easily.

@@MFChanical that’s true. I guess you could use it in a pinch

When the card got released, the community went nuts over it. I remember suddenly everyone had 3 of them in their deck.

That would make it a lot easier to summon stuff like Armed Dragon LV10.

What the hell is a Vtuber?

​@@arrownoir"V"irtual You"tuber". Aka, someone streaming while using an animated Avatar instead of their actual Face. The "Virtual" part of the Name comes from the fact that originally (ie, if you aren't watching a professionally employed one), the point was that the Avatar gets treated as if they are a real entity who is entirely seperate from the actual Person who is doing the streaming (as they "act out" a different personality while "on camera"). To give a more simplified explanation, imagine a Movie Actor goes to an Interview but stays in-character as whoever they played in the Movie the entire time. VTubers basically do that but as Livestreamers.

That's still super awful. Not only were those two monsters already bad when guard penalty came out, but you'd then have a card that's literally unplayable as long as you don't have either monster out. It's super easy to brick, which is just what a draw 1 card should never do.

Would include Jar turtle and Jar of Greed and all the new pot cards

Would still be utter trash, but at least not unplayable