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Top 100 Strongest One Piece Characters (Wano Act: II) OUTDATED

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Note that this list only includes characters from Luffy's lifetime. So no Gol D. Roger or Kozuki Oden, .. Legends like Garp, Whitebeard and Sengoku are measured by how strong they are during Luffy's life. Not how strong they were in their prime!!
Note that this lists includes characters who are mostly featless . These characters' positions are estimates and may not be accurate. However I believe those characters certainly deserve a spot on the list because of their reputation or portrayal.
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@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
This list shows people’s current standing. (e.x. Doflamingo not being a Warlord and not belonging to the donxuiqote pirates because he’s currently in Impel Down) However, I have accidentally taken into account Kuma before he became XP-0. Meaning the version that was undercover for the revolutionary army. As for Kuzan, I said he’s still affiliated with the Marines and holds the rank of Admiral, though obviously he’s currently related to the Blackbeard Pirates. I have also accidentally taken into account the version of Chinjao in his fight vs Luffy. Not his fight vs Lzo G where he had injuries on his back. Then why is Sai that high up even though his only feat is defeating that version of Chinjao? Because i don’t think the strength of Don Chinjao’s haki changed. And yet sai bent his head again. There are some characters on this list who probably deserve to be even higher. Like Caterina Devon and Avalo Pizarro. But until we actually see a full fight of people like them, I've rated them to where i think is reasonable. or by how much they've been hyped up. (like Beckman; First mate of red hair pirates who are said to be the strongest crew of all yonko's.) There are also characters like Rob Lucci, who I included with the assumption they leveld up after the time skip. Lucci learning haki for example.
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@Aanan Player thanks :p.
@seaneajea
@seaneajea 3 жыл бұрын
Killer deserves to be way higher on that list.
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@seaneajea in the manga? Yes. In WANO ACT 2 (as the title clearly states), he does not. The last thing we’ve seen at that point is him being clapped by pre-enma Zoro. I know he faces off with a Yonko later on in the manga. And I know what a massive feat that is. Looking at how Luffy got one hit in gear fourth TWICE by different Yonko’s. However that has not happened in act 2.
@seaneajea
@seaneajea 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 fair enough, even with fight with Zoro he was shown to be quite formidable , all things considering that he didn’t have his spinning scythes, even Zoro respected his strength in that fight. No other supernova is getting acknowledged by Zoro like that apart the supernova trio. Sanji without the raid suit and without using named attacks wouldn’t last longer than Killer in that fight.
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@seaneajea True. However Zoro had to divide his attention since the monk was also attacking him and he had to protect Momo's sister. He also didn't have Shisui or Enma. He was using 2 sword style and the moment he used 3 sword style he sent killer flying. Though I know Killer is strong, it's hard to place him above the other Supernova's if we haven''t seen much of them and this is the only thing we've seen of killer.
@Tolga-rm3zb
@Tolga-rm3zb 3 жыл бұрын
Very solid list 👍 I appreciate that you didnt underestimate vergo, crocodile ace and enel. Even kuma was placed perfect.
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ioo3761
@ioo3761 3 жыл бұрын
Extremly bad list
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@g47noob8 his devil fruit seemed really OP to me. Him basically teleporting and sending back every attack is quite strong. We’ve never seen him serious so far, so going from his devil fruit abilities and assuming he has Haki since he was one of the highest ranking in the revolutionary army, I think he should be ranked somewhere there. But yeah, it’s all assumptions on this one. So it’s logical if you disagree.
@admiralmonocle3874
@admiralmonocle3874 3 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly good list. Most lists are trash, but this, though not perfect, is solid.
@rdvan4224
@rdvan4224 3 жыл бұрын
kaido stronger than whitebeard ok
@ritiknoatilhari5531
@ritiknoatilhari5531 2 жыл бұрын
I think... (not including, Imu sama, 5 elders) 1. Whitebeard and Roger 2. Kaido 3. Shanks 4. Dragon 5. Garp 6. Big Mom 7. Mihawk 8. Oden 9. Akainu 10. Blackbeard
@shace2932
@shace2932 2 жыл бұрын
Ur back ?
@myname543
@myname543 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@boomchacka5174
@boomchacka5174 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry man, but old garp and rayleigh ain't even top 10. Rayleigh struggles his ass off with kizaru, garps only real feat is punching marco. People really tend to forget that akainu soloed every commander alive, including crocodile after blowing off whitebeards face, 2 shotting ace, blowing a literal hole in whitebeards chest, etc. The next day, blackbeard runs away from akainu, even though blackbeard had his whole crew. Blackbeard didn't hesitate to fight old garp and sengoku. Old garp is featless compared to akainu, even his durability isn't great considering luffy made him bleed. (Yes I know garp let him, but still it didn't take much) Prime garp is a different case, as we've at least seen him beat a few guys, but it was still embarrassing that his 2v1 with sengoku against shiki took so long that marineford was basically fully in ruins when it ended. Garp currently is 15th at best, rayleigh is currently somewhere just stronger than yamato. At the end of the day, akainu did a hell of a lot more damage to whitebeard than whitebeard did to him, and akainu was virtually unharmed after whitebeard hit him with a quake. (It also took whitebeard to sneak up on akainu to actually hit him), and when akainu fought whitebeard evenly, whitebeard got a huge hole in his chest. There is a lot to suggest that a fair face to face fight between the two would end strongly in Akainu's favour.
@monked6966
@monked6966 2 жыл бұрын
I only see this comment now, but I agree!
@f.b.i3816
@f.b.i3816 3 жыл бұрын
everyone placing kizaru lower than aokiji and akainu me knowing that he never have been serious once and never used his true speed mode :)
@zeusthundergod9900
@zeusthundergod9900 3 жыл бұрын
And that’s precisely why he’s ranked lower
@Human_traain
@Human_traain 3 жыл бұрын
He even had many chances to kill whitebeard at marineford but he decided not too
@jacobcrist7982
@jacobcrist7982 3 жыл бұрын
Nice list, I’d personally scale Shanks’ commanders higher though, and Old Garp under Akainu and Aokiji
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Shanks’ commanders are probably stronger than their ranking indicates. However I didn’t think it was fair to rank them any higher until we actually see some feats. As for old garp, he was said to be on par with the likes of roger and whitebeard. Old, sick, heavily wounded Whitebeard 2-shot Akainu. I used that as an indicator. Also the fact that all admirals clashed with Marco but none could bring him down. While Garp one hit him so hard he left his phoenix mode.
@jacobcrist7982
@jacobcrist7982 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 Shanks’ crew is the most hyped so logically they should be over the 2nd/3rd commanders
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobcrist7982 maybe. However, in the translation that i read, it said “most balanced crew”. Nog 100% sure what that means.
@jacobcrist7982
@jacobcrist7982 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 it probably makes them have the strongest commanders and also didn’t Whitebeard also sometimes struggle against a single admiral? I mean it seemed to take a lot out of base old Whitebeard to fight 1 admiral
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobcrist7982 no admiral dared to face whitebeard on their own. It was always multiple against one. And they always flanked him. Especially Kizaru. When it was only one admiral, Akainu ended up like he did. Also, Whitebeard had been stabbed in the chest already by squard. But aside from that, whitebeard wasn’t just old, he was sick. He couldn’t use ryou with conquerors Haki or he’d have a heart attack. And that power is the difference between getting one hit by kaido and dealing some equal blows to kaido. As far as we know, Garp isn’t sick. Just old.
@ioo3761
@ioo3761 3 жыл бұрын
0:48 you can't be serious ? 😂 So you want to tell me that a brook or smoker (haki user) could not handle a sea king ??
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my bad. Noted for my act 3 list tho, thanks!
@piegorgioni4931
@piegorgioni4931 2 жыл бұрын
bruh nola isnt sea king
@eh8553
@eh8553 2 жыл бұрын
@@piegorgioni4931 yeah lol that kinda proves that this guy is a skipshoku haki user
@piegorgioni4931
@piegorgioni4931 2 жыл бұрын
@@eh8553 i hate everyone that skips skypeia
@eh8553
@eh8553 2 жыл бұрын
@@piegorgioni4931 I see, sorry for the wrong accusation
@alanalex5524
@alanalex5524 3 жыл бұрын
Good list but in future i definitely can smell it that SHANKS will be powerful than big mom and kaido
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Jup. Me too, however i didn’t think i’d be fair to place him higher since he is mostly featless. While big mom and kaido atrn’t.
@Human_traain
@Human_traain 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@gumbo4957
@gumbo4957 3 жыл бұрын
Nah I’m a shanks fan and altho shanks did stop kaido from going to marine Ford they did not fight Ima need more proof
@alanalex5524
@alanalex5524 3 жыл бұрын
@@gumbo4957 u will in the future
@Hatemalalmaei
@Hatemalalmaei 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure where did act 2 end but since Luffy is ranked without Ryu and that other development that might spoil anime only watchers, Zoro without Enma, and Killer too low, I'll assume it ended before chapter 1000? anyways Sanji needs more feats to be put above Jack, also Gion and Tokikake were nominated to be admirals but got bested by Ryo and Fuji, they should be way higher, at least in the top 30, probably even in the top 25 and definitely Whitebeard should be number 8 at best, Garp was almost as strong as him back in the days and now he's just old while Whitebeard was old and sick, Garp was definitely stronger in Marineford finally, massive props for Mihawk and Doffy's placements
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what happens in what chapter, but yeah, Kid & Killer haven't done anything impressive yet and Zoro just acquired Enma but can't use it yet. So i didn't take it into account. As for Sanji, yeah it was a bit of a gamble. But taking into account how easily he handled Page One & Drake, I thought this was a suitable position. For Gion and Tokikake I agree, however I was hesitant to place them any higher because they are featless and I thought it was a bit unfair towards those with actual feats. Because as far as i remember, they didn't say how far they were behind Fujitora etc. But wasn't Garp at Roger's level aswell? So unless I misunderstand, I don't see how that makes Whitebeard any less impressive. When I placed him I took into account that a rational man, Sengoku, greatly feared Whitebeard during the Paramount War and the fact that after fighting so many marines, including the other Admirals and being stabbed in the back etc, he still bossed Akainu. Also the fact that when Big Mom explained her political relations with Elbaf, she said "I could've beaten Red-Hair, Kaido and EVEN Whitebeard and become the pirate king myself". I interpreted this as him being on another level. Though now I think about it, it's a bit contradicting since I placed Kaido above him lol. Thanks! Though I'm personally not sure about MIhawks spot, since we only have statements and a little bit of feats on him. The statements say he's a god, and yet he (imo) disappointed a bit during the Paramount war. (Fighting seemingly even with Vista, the former fifth commander division, getting his attack blocked by Jozu, the former third commander. Though Jozu's fruit is one specialised in Defense, so I can excuse that.)
@Hatemalalmaei
@Hatemalalmaei 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 Hmm it seems you are an anime watcher only, right? if so then you'll be in for a surprise probably 10 months from now :) Sanji overwhelmed Page One but I wouldn't say he was very impressive against Drake, that's why I said he's still below Jack, but whatever by the end of this arc he will definitely be above Jack at least, maybe even above Queen who knows I didn't revise it but I remember they said Gion and Tokikake were "edged out" by Fuji and Ryo, this means it was only a small margin in power, however I don't think they should be right below them, top 30 is good for them for now Yeah prime Roger = Prime WB = or > prime Garp, Garp was very close to them in power, so if WB was already on death's door i Marineford due to his sickness, Garp should be stronger than him The reason Sengoku was anxious about him is because he told Garp (the only man at Marineford who could stood up and defeat WB) not to get involved in the war since it's his grandson who's gonna be executed, had he told him to participate the war would have ended sooner, hell it would have ended before BB gets his hands on WB's DF Lastly, Mihawk was never serious during the war, and actually I dont mind people putting him below Shanks because he could actually be weaker than him, but a lot of people underestimate him and put him below all admirals and Yonkos which is wrong imo
@whatistime5768
@whatistime5768 3 жыл бұрын
Whitebeard >>> Kaido
@f.b.i3816
@f.b.i3816 3 жыл бұрын
he never used his prime time i don't know where you get that from he put the one "old and sick" so shut up
@vvvvvvv-p9c
@vvvvvvv-p9c 3 жыл бұрын
great list but for germa 66 i think yonji is above reiju, and judge is above niji. I also think bastille should be replaced with who's who, momonga should be replaced with black maria, and nola should be replaced with ulti. good job on the list tho man its not easy to rank the top 100
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! However, Who’s who and black maria etc are act 3 characters. This list is only up to act 2. As for Germa 66, I got the impression Reiju is way stronger because her poison actually put Smoothie on guard (a sweet general) while Yonji got his ass kicked by Sanji without a raid suit.
@vvvvvvv-p9c
@vvvvvvv-p9c 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 oh alright thanks for the notice
@IK-lu5lf
@IK-lu5lf 3 жыл бұрын
Are you planing to do an act3 list?
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I just did one of act II aswell since i got up to date for the first time with OP Anime.
@LordUchiha666
@LordUchiha666 3 жыл бұрын
Solid List. So I'm guessing this is pure feat and statement based power scaling, no narrative or speculation? If so then Akainu should rank higher, 2 hits from Akainu had WB at deaths door, 2 hits from Whitebeard and Akainu had minor injuries (they both had one clean hit, and one hit where the other was in a compromising position, before WBs heart problem they both were equally clashing stopping each others attacks), I'd say directly behind Shanks just because he is still to this day the only guy Akainu seemingly didn't want smoke with. Rayleigh > Kizaru. Kizaru was the only one who got a scratch, Kizaru suggested the Marines would need to prep if they wanted to take one Rayleigh (Suggesting he alone wasn't enough), Rayleigh saying he could fight Kizaru and protect the straw hats if he was in his prime doesn't mean he was weaker than Kizaru, it means he could fight Kizaru and Kuma (who was the one attacking the straw hats when he said that) at the same time. I could make the argument Marco > Beckman due to the statement that WB had the strongest crew at the time, and the fact that Marco could clash with the admirals, and the fact that Kizaru focused on Marco during the war (which indicates enough of a threat to respect it), and I know people like to say that Beckman scared Kizaru...but he didn't Kizaru acted like "Ohhh Benn Beckman" then straight up disrespected him by ignoring his threat and continued to shoot at Laws Submarine. Doffy > Jozu, Doffy caught Jozu in his partial Diamond form casually (Indicates his strings are stronger than his diamond), Aokiji froze base Jozu and it defeated him (I think Jozu lost arm correct?) while the same freeze attack Doffy broke free from with no injuries (indicates his base is stronger than his too). Roux should scale above Kaido and Big Moms second strongest subordinates, Shanks Officers have hype from Marine HQ (And we all assume he's second due to his role given by Oda being just "Combatant") Yasopp should scale to Vista, the Blue Deep Databook says there is a connection between the two when pointing out the panel where they stare each down angrily, hinting at some sort of a confrontation between the two in the past, and both crews (well the officers in the case of the Red Hair Pirates) also have hype and both are likely the third strongest subordinate of their crew. Dorry and Brogy, also Nola, should all not rank. All three of them would get low diffed by Caesar who is not ranked rightfully.
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks! This list is indeed based of of statements and feats. However i did use speculation for characters like crocodile and Rob Lucci. basically anyone we haven't seen much of since the time skip. I assumed they learned Haki for example. As for Akainu, I found it really hard to rank him. Because Whitebeard had been stabbed by Squard in a vital spot already. Since he cought up blood, which he didn't do when 4 marine people stabbed him. He also already had a hole in his chest and had multiple skirmishes with the other admirals already. Who are in another league than the opponents Akainu faced prior to facing whitebeard. So I think we can assume whitebeard was way more drained already. And yet he took down Akainu in 2 hits. and still had the power left to defeat blackbeard. I might be underestimating Akainu a bit, but i think that he'd be dead if he wasn't lucky enough to fall into that crater. As for Kizaru and Rayleigh, you might be right. What I based this of was the fact that (atleast in the anime) Rayleigh seemed way more exhausted than Kizaru. While Kizaru was acting pretty chill, Rayleigh was breathing heavily during their fight. But yeah, might be underestimating Rayleigh a bit. Yeah. marco could very well be stronger than Beckman. However I based their ranking of the fact that the marines said that Shanks had the most balanced crew. I interpreted that as the strongest crew. In which case Beckman would be the strongest first commander. Though i could very well be wrong and it remains to be seen. As for Jozu, i've also reached the same conclusion after uploading this vid. I overrated him a bit. As for Roux, I want to wait until we actually see some feats of him. Though he is probably stronger than Kaido and Big mom's second commander, I feel it's a bit unfair for them to rank him above them without any feats. The same for Yasopp. dorry, broggy and Nola should indeed not rank. Do you have any suggestions of characters who should rank instead? I might've overrrated them because of their size. Thanks for the feedback! I'll def. take it into account when making an Act 3 list.
@LordUchiha666
@LordUchiha666 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 Fair Enough. Actually the only real damage WB had taken before fighting Akainu the first time was Squardo, and Akainu and WB were clashing evenly stop each others attacks before he had that heart problem where Akainu melted his chest, Aokijis attacks did nothing to WB, and Kizaru attacked after WB and Akainus first fight. And took down is very strong word there, the first hit he landed on Akainu was when Akainu had his back from him, then directly after that Akainu took off half his face, then Akainu took the big blow fell in the chasm WB created, then he was gone for the next chapter, but the chapter right after that one Akainu came back with only a little blood on his face still fighting (Took out Ivankov, Jinbei, and fought most of the Whitebeard Commanders at the same time)...Akainu barely took damage reread ch 577 where he reappears, again all the hits that did deadly damage were from Akainu. In the Manga we get one time where he does the "haa" after saying he'd have helped the straw hats if he wasn't old (Where Kizaru was the one who felt pressed saying fighting him off should have been enough), but in any of the closeups he never even broke a sweat, and that was actually the most serious we've seen Kizaru, in fact it felt like Rayleigh was the one most laid back in the fight. Pre-Timeskip Whitebeards crew actually had the statement of being the strongest crew, and since Post-Timeskip the crew has disbanded, so you can't scale Shanks crew above Whitebeards crew (Since the statement hyping up Shanks' Officers was only recently). I mean I speculate Beckman to be stronger too, but that's only because of speculation due to me thinking the Red Hair Pirates and the Blackbeard Pirates will fight, and due to power creep would likely get better scaling, but currently it's much easier to argue for Marco based on feats and statements. Yeah Doffy and Jozu was one of the few times it felt like Oda was really trying to powerscale. Then shouldn't the same apply for Beckman? Compote and Amande are the first 2 that come to mind, Vice Admiral Onigumo (The one who could grab and put seastone on Marco), could argue you should also scale Kaku up if you scale'd Lucci up (and pre-ts Kaku would beat those 3 anyways), and Sulong Carrot are the ones who have the best arguments to be on the list (That I can think of).
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@LordUchiha666 i always thought in whitebeard & Akainu’s first clash, that whitebeard was holding back heavily. Since they were fighting pretty close to where ace was being kept with sea prism stones. While in their second confrontation, he went all out. (His blow instantly shattered a big part of marine ford). Imo he didn’t use that sort of attacks rhe first time so he wouldn’t hurt ace by accident. But honestly i’m just waiting for Akainu to have some post timeskip feats to pump up his rank. I pretty much agree with the rest
@One-if1nz
@One-if1nz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@victormaduabuchi8947
@victormaduabuchi8947 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a good list but up to date rn there’s need to be some changes
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I’m an anime only so i only did until act 2. I know Zoro and luffy will become ultimatz power houses after mastering Ryou with conquerors Haki and mastering Enma. And I’ll make an act 3 list with these changes after it’s finished in the anime.
@Human_traain
@Human_traain 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 ye sir
@tanktopblast6886
@tanktopblast6886 3 жыл бұрын
Nice list. Really accurate. Well done
@dunvietsub1466
@dunvietsub1466 3 жыл бұрын
Mihawk stronger than Shanks ??? Its impossible
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I had a bit of trouble deciding on that one. If i remember correct, Shanks and Mihawks used to duel each other in the past. Meaning they were somewhat equal at the time. When Mihawk met Shanks again, Shanks asked Mihawk if he came to fight again. To which Mihawk answered “You’re not worth fighting with just one arm” (smth like that). To which Shanks said nothing. Shanks could very well be stronger, but also going by the fact that Shanks has the “most balanced” crew, I’d say (could be very wrong!!) that this is compensating for something compared to the other Yonko’s. Though i agree that Mihawks feats at Marine Ford weren’t that impressive. But until Shanks shows his full strength, I decided to rank Mihawk over him.
@jacobcrist7982
@jacobcrist7982 3 жыл бұрын
How can it be impossible when Shanks is a swordsman and Mihawk is the WSS?
@Human_traain
@Human_traain 3 жыл бұрын
Mihawk had equal amount of power like shanks and now that shanks lost his arm he seems to be uninterested in him remember that mihawk had the ability too see the winner in a battle and he's strongly implying that he's stronger than shanks
@zoro-wt9xe
@zoro-wt9xe 3 жыл бұрын
Ok shanks kid
@beskardian6798
@beskardian6798 2 жыл бұрын
yo i agree with this guide actually. well thought out
@victormaduabuchi8947
@victormaduabuchi8947 3 жыл бұрын
If you were to go by the manga zoro would be higher and he is a stronger than Charlotte smoothie for sure
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Anime only sadly. Couldn’t wait until act 3 was finished :P. Honestly Zoro could be way stronger, just gave smoothie the benefit of the doubt because of her reputation/bounty.
@yigitcanozmen9531
@yigitcanozmen9531 3 жыл бұрын
İf he were to go by manga then luffy would be A LOT higher aswell
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@yigitcanozmen9531 Jup tjat's why i said "no ryuo" as in, he hasn't mastered it yet.
@yigitcanozmen9531
@yigitcanozmen9531 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 yeah i know i was saying it to the guy i cant wait for your act 3 list man luffy is gonna be really up there he is a beast right now
@abubakarahidjo6073
@abubakarahidjo6073 3 жыл бұрын
Nice list but Where da hell is kozuki oden guy?
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. But i tried to include only characters who are/were alive in Luffy’s age. As for as I know (act 2), Oden has been dead for years. Just like Roger and other legends.
@popkhorne5372
@popkhorne5372 3 жыл бұрын
Crocodile above boa ? Hell no. I know croc is strong, just countered by water, but i dont think so.
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I also came to this conclusion. It’s one of the things i’ll change on my act 3 list.
@Paul-rx5hu
@Paul-rx5hu 3 жыл бұрын
A very nice Video but Franky is stronger than Smooker? I mean Franky doesn't have Haku so he can't defeat a logia user
@Paul-rx5hu
@Paul-rx5hu 3 жыл бұрын
Haki*
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. After rewatching his fight with Law i’ve def. underestimated him. I’ll keep it in mind for the act 3 list
@kimeyonesims3234
@kimeyonesims3234 3 жыл бұрын
kinda wish douglas was here
@emmuplax1373
@emmuplax1373 3 жыл бұрын
Roger ? ??????????????????????
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
as clearly stated, only people who are/were alive during Luffy's time.
@Monsieur_Ford
@Monsieur_Ford 3 жыл бұрын
whitebeard is definitely top 1 even if his old ) Proofs of Whitebeard being the strongest Pirate at Marineford -Oda himself writes down that Whitebeard is the strongest Pirate in the world at the beginning of every Marineford volume "The world's strongest pirate". Keep in mind that this isn't presented as a rumor or an opinion but a FACT. Whereas Kaido in the recent volumes is introduced this way "people say he is the strongest creature" which is very different from Whitebeard's official title. -Bigmom herself considers Whitebeard to be stronger than Kaido and Shanks. Knowing Shanks only became a Yonko 6 years ago, she quite clearly isn't speaking of some distant paste here -Garp calls him the Ruler of the Sea, putting him on a higher level than the other Yonko. Buggy does the same and claims Whitebeard is WITHOUT A DOUBT the strongest Pirate in the world. -Jinbe also tells his crew that he doesn't believe the next ruler of the sea will be a Yonko but instead Straw Hat Luffy which proves not every Yonko is considered "King/Ruler of the sea" Only Whitebeard was -Doflamingo who was at Marineford, and saw with his own eyes everything Whitebeard could do, still insisted Whitebeard was the strongest pirate up until the end of his lifetime. Here he claims Whitebeard sat before the throne but never took it, his death being the the reason as to why the Throne War is happening. No one stood out above the rest like WB did, no one has been able to take the throne from him during his lifetime. Only his death has opened up the way for Kaido,Bigmom and others to try and become number 1 which they haven't even done yet in Doffy's opinion -Law praises the Emperors for being able to challenge Whitebeard for territories. The wording leaves no doubt. Law clearly implies Whitebeard>Kaido/BM/Shanks and they are impressive for being able to challenge -Sengoku,Ivankov and Akainu are all in agreement that Whitebeard is the strongest man -Sengoku POST-MARINEFORD, after having seen EVERYTHING WB had to offer, still states that WB was number 1 amongst all the pirates alive. The argument "he doesn't know of his condition" doesn't hold off. -Finally let's debunk one of the biggest lie this community has spread : "WB couldn't use haki properly at Marineford". It's simply false. He used CoA at every occasion, Oda just didn't depict it visually back in preskip. The only time where he couldn't use haki was when he had a heart attack trying to use CoC on the guards, which served as a plot device for LUFFY to use his own CoC and save the day. 2) Why Superior durability doesn't make Kaido or Bigmom the strongest characters Gol D. Roger the Pirateking was executed by two fodders. Random Marines being able to pierce Whitebeard at Marineford proves nothing, even a Prime Whitebeard who sat well above Kaido/BM would still be pierced by them. Kaido and BM have freakish durability, that doesn't mean they're the strongest characters out there as we see that even Roger was weak to random swords
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I was seriously doubting who to put first, and at the end of the day I decided Kaido because he could use ryuo conquerors haki while whitebeard couldn't because of his old age. and I thought looking at how strong Luffy has become just because of conquerors Ryuo, It def. makes a big enough difference for Kaido to win. But yeah, I might reconsider for my act 3 list.
@Monsieur_Ford
@Monsieur_Ford 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 no problem but white beard was considered by several characters to be the most powerful pirate in the world but after his death it was kaido who became them
@blahblahblah6898
@blahblahblah6898 3 жыл бұрын
@@Monsieur_Ford his feats are ass though… all the things you mentioned are cool and all but it mostly comes from the fact he is deemed as legend dunno if u read the manga but if u actually think marinford WB stands a chance against hybrid kaido I would have to tell you re wrong the guy could barely even use haki and his strongest enraged attack caused a nose bleed at akainu 😐 feats > statements and his feats are all but impressive for a yonko
@blahblahblah6898
@blahblahblah6898 3 жыл бұрын
@@Monsieur_Ford he was indeed the most powerful pirate in the world … in his prime… not when almost dying and with terminal diseases
@Monsieur_Ford
@Monsieur_Ford 3 жыл бұрын
@@blahblahblah6898 even old whitebeard stated to be the strongest pirates i don't talk about Marineford wb
@ramilapaudel1904
@ramilapaudel1904 2 жыл бұрын
wtf where is the pirates king roger?
@monked6966
@monked6966 2 жыл бұрын
I only include people who were alive during Luffy's era.
@samueledrictonglipanjaitan795
@samueledrictonglipanjaitan795 3 жыл бұрын
where is king pirates ?
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
as the description says, only characters who are/were alive during luffy's time.
@marcorava2795
@marcorava2795 3 жыл бұрын
good list! butwe need to fix something. hawkins, drake and apoo are >urogue cracker is < of smoothie and all he adrmial are strogner than marco Mihawk is not > to shanks or the other admiral! hancock is clearly > o crocodile
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Though i’ll explain why i disagree with your message below: Looking at feats till act 2 of wano, why would hawkins, drake and apoo be > urouge? I know that both Zoro and Sanji are way stronger than Urouge, but they defeated hawkins and Drake without too much trouble. As for Apoo, we haven’t actually seen any feats. So without feats, we can only look at what has been said. And that is that Urouge was the only one who defeated a sweet general (snack). While Snack fought of Apoo for example. Meaning that at this point in the story, I can only include that urouge > hawkins, Apoo and drake. Again, Smoothie doesn’t have any notable feats. In fact, her only feats work against her here. That is having trouble dealing with Reiju. While Cracker has been shown to be really strong. His Haki is one of the stronger Haki’s out there. Being stronger than Luffy’s without gear fourth. Cracker has also shown crazy endurance as he made biscuit soldiers for hours straight. And even gear fourth Luffy needed help from Nami to defeat cracker. The only thing Smoothie has over Cracker is her bounty. Which can easily be influenced by cruelty or other factors. So, I disagree on this one aswell. During Marine Ford we’ve seen Marco hold his own against Kizaru and Aokiji. He has a crazy strong devil fruits aswell. Giving him some attributes of a Logia fruit user, aswell as being able to fly etc. As for Fujitora, we know he’s crazy strong aswell. However, we haven’t seen any feats that prove him to be superior to marco imo. All his fights were interrupted/ ended in a draw. Also, what i thought was most important while making this decision, is that Doflamingo almost peed his pants and turned submissive when Aokiji turned up on Punk Hazard. While Doflamingo was even prepared to fight Fujitora. And because we haven’t seen anything of Ryukugyu, I can only place him below Fujitora. As for Mihawk, again i had to go from statements. Mihawk and Shanks were tied in the past. They went their seperate way but until said otherwise, there is no reason to assume that Shanks improved more than Mihawk did. This gets supported by the fact that mihawk said Shanks isn’t worth fighting with just 1 hand. Also, while from what we know, Shanks is also a sword user, Mihawk holds the title of strongest swordman ever. So until proven otherwise, i have no choice but to assume that Mihawks > Shanks. And thus also Mihawk > admirals since obviously, Shanks > admirals (except maybe Akainu/Aokiji, depending on their improvements after time skip) Yes. I agree with this one from the feats we’ve seen. However, Crocodile would def. be ranked somewhere around there, though indeed a bit lower. Since he def. learned Haki during time skip. And we’ve already seen he has great mastery over his devil fruit and his df is one of the most destructive out there. In short, I agree with Hancock > Crocodile but disagree with the rest. The text above is just my reasoning, though ofcourse feel free to disagree.
@marcorava2795
@marcorava2795 3 жыл бұрын
​@@monked6966 I really congratulated you for the list! First urogue beats snacks, a sweet commander, but the only sweet commander to have been downgraded. Hawkins is not beaten by Zoro, indeed he can easily head to Luffy and Zoro. Also he is beaten by Hawkins only because he caught off guard. If for you snacks, of which we don't know anything and stronger than these characters .... Furthermore Sanji does not defeat Drake, I don't understand me, so don't know the strength of snacks we cannot have parameters for hooks. As for, the Desserts Commanders, Smoothie is higher than crackers. He looks the parallels between the Kaido and Big Mom crew. King and Kata, are first, Smottie and Queen are guarding something (first at the treasure room, the second in Udon). There is no rain to Hancock on Crocodile. Hancock is equipped with a strong fruit and all 3 Haki, unlike crocodile, in some respects is not far from Doflamigo. For the issue of equilibrium of the world we have emperors> Admirals> Commanders and fleet of the 7. So for how strong Marco, I think that in a long clash it is defeated by admirals. As for Shanks and Mihawk, it was said they were sword rivals, but many years ago. And Shanks became emperor only 6 years ago, also one is Luffy's idol and if he plays it with the imperotri, the other will be the rival of Zoro, can not be superior.
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcorava2795 snack was only demoted after he was beaten by Urouge. Before he met Urouge, he had already beaten Apoo etc. Hawkins was decisively beaten by Zoro at Wano. Zoro was heavily disadvantaged because he was protecting Luffy & the girl. He even had to take some of Hawkins attack so the little girl wouldn’t get injured. However, the moment he launched a counter attack, he obliterated Hawkins’ Straw Man and Hawkins stopped chasing them because he ran out of lives and didn’t want to die. Sanji did in fact defeat Drake. When Zoro & Sanji interfered with the execution, Drake fought Sanji. Sanji dodged all his attacks with ease and when sanji went all out because he had to save a girl, he kicked Drake down in 1 hit. As for Cracker and Smoothie, looking at parallels between the Big Mom and Beasts Pirates is NOT an accurate way to measure their commanders’ combat capabilities, the Beasts pirates & Big Mom pirates are two entirely different crews with little to zero similarities. Also, the fact that Big Mom chose Smoothie to guard the treasure room while she chose Cracker to hunt down Luffy, actually only works in Crackers’ favor. Luffy was the strongest invador present during the WCI arc. Big Mom knew this and even said that she wouldn’t underestimate him like many before her did. Thus why she send out cracker. She send Cracker to take care of the strongest invader, while she let Smoothie guard against Luffy’s allies. Even not taking that into account, just because King is stronger than Queen, does in no way mean that Smoothie is stronger than Cracker. As previously stated, I agree that until we see some post- timeskip feats of Sir Crocodile, Boa Hancock should be ranked above him. As for Marco, Yonko > Admirals > First Commanders > Warlords of the sea are a good general measurement. However, as in every general guideline, there are bound to be some exceptions: Marco the phoenix and Benn Beckman being prime examples of this in my opinion. Yes, their rivalry was many years ago. But what makes you assume that Mihawk has stopped progressing or is progressing slower than Shanks? Such a thing has never been stated. What has been stated is that Mihawk thinks Shanks is inferior to him with just one arm. Even after standing right in front of him. Shanks becoming an emperor has nothing to do with his combat prowess. Since it was said that Shanks has the most balanced crew of yonko. That’s probably making up for his own abilities with him having 1 arm and stuff. Since the Yonko are supposed to be somewhat even in terms of total military might. As for Shanks being Luffy’s idol, that does not matter at all. He’s strong. Very strong, but not the strongest. And a protagonist’s idol doesn’t need to be the strongest. As for Zoro, we don’t even know if Zoro will ever be able to defeat Mihawk. Maybe Mihawk dies to someone else before Zoro can confront him? Who knows.
@marcorava2795
@marcorava2795 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 we have different view! I don't see Drake defeated by sanji and the same smoothie. If luffy was really dangerous why don't send katakuri? Because smoothie and katakuri weren't in the city at the moment. Snack probably is weaker than perospero. Brule told us just urogue defeat snack, but Don 't tell us if the other supernova fight with snack, cracker or someonelse, we can Aldo add the fact for kid, he injury a sweet commander, Brule don' t tell us that kid injury a commander. For mihawk I think is correct my view. Kaido see behind luffy, roger, whitebeard, shanks, oden(weakest than Rayleigh) and xebec, if mihawk was so strong why don't put him we the others characters? You can tell me garp, dragon, admiral can fight with yonko, that's true but I don't see him at the same level at these characters. The same is for Marco, we know the admiral are about the same level,after see punk hazard it's really Clair that admiral are>first commander. At the same to me is ofr Hancock. Crocodile we don't know if he have haki(probably now yes) but is really < Hancock. Iand killer is probably high in the rank. If you want I do one, an I gave you the link and you can tell me what do you think about.
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcorava2795 i think because even Big Mom thought Katakuri was overkill. He’s of a tier far above both Smoothie and Katakuri. As for Snack, I don’t believe Perospero is stronger than him. Perospero is the eldest son and has a very high bounty. There is no reason to not make him a sweet general unless there were stronger people out there. (Snack, smoothie, cracker, katakuri). As for Mihawk. We could both be wrong or right. I guess we’ll have to wait and see. In the end, only Oda can tell us the answer. However, I’d love to see your take on the strongest one piece characters! Feel free to send me the link once you’ve finished your list. I’ll certainly watch it!
@AM-ct5je
@AM-ct5je 2 жыл бұрын
Wait crocodile lost to pre-gear 2 luffy and Yr telling me he can beat a colour of supreme king user like hancock. Hancock should way higher. Plus luffy stomps sabo based on feats. Fuijitora wasn't trying against him.
@monked6966
@monked6966 2 жыл бұрын
I put Boa to low and Croc too high. However, as we’ve seen during Marineford, Croc is way stronger now than he was during Alabasta. Oda Imo Sabo beats Luffy pre adv. Conquerors
@AM-ct5je
@AM-ct5je 2 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 what about ace, why is he so high. Just one after sanji.
@monked6966
@monked6966 2 жыл бұрын
@@AM-ct5je because this is pre exo skeleton Sanji. As for Ace, I believe he’s highly underrated. Many people underestimate pre TS Blackbeard and thus underestimate Ace. Though it has been confirmed Ace was in fact able to use all Haki.
@AM-ct5je
@AM-ct5je 2 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 Ace and blackbeard are both overrated. Blackbeard with one devil fruit get one spotted by magellan. Plus he couldn't even beat whitbeard that was already dead. Ace doesn't really have any great feats. He is a good character and I like him a lot but am just being honest
@rayrambo03
@rayrambo03 3 жыл бұрын
Zoro should be way higher
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so without enma. But its kinda up to interpretation as I don’t think Zoro every showed his full powers before he got Enma.
@zeusthundergod9900
@zeusthundergod9900 3 жыл бұрын
Kidd isn’t stronger than Ace. Ace would burn his stupid mechanic arm
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Kid has extreme physical abilities. He literally was on par with Luffy when they had sea cuffs on. Also, as seen countless time before, Haki is more important in battle than most devil fruits. (Garp vs Marco for example). Kid's armament Haki could easily take Ace's fire attacks.
@hermesdyrmyshi2329
@hermesdyrmyshi2329 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf sabo is stronger than luffy
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Flame flame fruit is very destructive. Sabo showed Ace lvl control of it on his first day he had it. Aside from that he was powerful enough to earn the title “n. 2 of the revolutionary army” with just his Haki. His armament haki is def. of a higher tier than Luffy’s in act 2. Even in gear fourth. His df is so versatile that I just don’t see luffy beating him at that point in the story. Even with his upgraded observation Haki.
@fairytailfan160
@fairytailfan160 3 жыл бұрын
This list is Anime only
@prism6169
@prism6169 3 жыл бұрын
Whitebeard is too high
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I plan on lowering him in the act 3 list.
@osamaabdelmajed7353
@osamaabdelmajed7353 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really pissed that it's not up to date, I really am angry
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
then don't watch it? It's literally in the title. Also, it is up to date if you're an anime only.
@stevenhe9993
@stevenhe9993 3 жыл бұрын
where is luffy?
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Place 19 No act 3 so this is luffy without Ryuo
@lovelove-ow1vq
@lovelove-ow1vq 3 жыл бұрын
Reiju can beat oven.!?
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
I assumed so because it seemed like het Poison is really dangerous. Even Smoothie, a sweet general, was very wary of it. If it’s as dangerous as it was depicted, 1 hit is all ot takes to take someone down.
@zeusthundergod9900
@zeusthundergod9900 3 жыл бұрын
Doffy to low
@vulpess3600
@vulpess3600 3 жыл бұрын
imo crocodile is too high.
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Probably should’ve put him way lower. It’s just that i was impressed with how Crocodile was portrayed during impel down/marine ford. And looking at that, I def. think Oda plans on making Croc very formidable after the time skip. Just like i assumed Rob Lucci to have become way more formidable since he’s in CP-0 now. Making the assumption he has learned haki etc.
@vulpess3600
@vulpess3600 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 okay 👌
@SanthoshKumar-qx6hd
@SanthoshKumar-qx6hd 3 жыл бұрын
Zoro is stronger than law and kid in wano
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but this is before he gets enma
@SanthoshKumar-qx6hd
@SanthoshKumar-qx6hd 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 then ,I suppose I can I agree with that.
@hidayatyagami25
@hidayatyagami25 3 жыл бұрын
Gol d Roger ?
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
As the description says: only characters who are/were alive during Luffy’s era.
@YodaOp
@YodaOp 3 жыл бұрын
Man sanji redsuit is stronger then zoro with shusui (and no with enma)
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, could very well be. It’s just that i personally got the impression that Zoro has never gone all out since the timeskip. And seeing how he’s capable of mass destruction (cutting Pica in half). I thought he might have the edge. But yeah, could be wrong.
@YodaOp
@YodaOp 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 man he went down with a attack of killer that was with out mind
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@YodaOp but in his fight with killer, he only had 2 swords
@YodaOp
@YodaOp 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 man zoro loos swords really often . This is a big weaknes
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@YodaOp Yes. But the version i included is the one with his swords :p
@jakeschreiber7861
@jakeschreiber7861 3 жыл бұрын
ace is way too low
@vanze6214
@vanze6214 3 жыл бұрын
Cuz he already died so there is no improvement for him
@beltranarteagabarreiros1706
@beltranarteagabarreiros1706 2 жыл бұрын
I dont know if im the only one watching now but this list is so bad by the end of wano
@monked6966
@monked6966 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know. But I do know you’re an idiot who lacks reading comprehension. This list is made long before the end of wano.
@monked6966
@monked6966 2 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse a list isn’t accurate anymore with everyone getting power ups etc. Are you stupid?
@YodaOp
@YodaOp 3 жыл бұрын
Page one stronger then francky????
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
From what I’ve seen yes. Page one was trashed by Sanji, however Sanji is crazy strong after his suit upgrade. Franky has no haki, only rip off technology of doctor Vegapunk. I’d say Page one would slap Franky, atleast based on what i’ve seen in act 2.
@YodaOp
@YodaOp 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 hahahaha page one is The weakest tobi roppo
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@YodaOp And yet capable of using haki unlike Franky?
@YodaOp
@YodaOp 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 man is not like haki character > no haki character. Franky can use radical beam and general franky that is really strong
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@YodaOp I know that. However Haki can make a HUGE difference. for example, Luffy vs Pacifista (Luffy got smacked before Haki, one hit it after haki.) Or for example Law vs vergo & Law vs doflamingo ( Law one hit Vergo with his fruit, while his fruit was useless against Doflamingo because Doffy's Haki was stronger.) I simply don't think Franky's technology is enough to beat the speed of Page one's fruit and his Armement punches.
@AngelicaLatvian99
@AngelicaLatvian99 3 жыл бұрын
This guy can not be serious. Have you read manga 1010?
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
This guy can not be serious. Have you read the title? Or any of the comments at all? This list is up to Wano ACT 2. The manga is act 3.
@augustekamga9032
@augustekamga9032 3 жыл бұрын
your ranking is too inconsistent
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
do you have some examples?
@augustekamga9032
@augustekamga9032 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966White BEARD is stronger than kaido the stronger man oda said it and rayleigh is stronger than kizaru even the one confirmed it saying the navy had to better prepare to catch such a size
@gokulpillay9824
@gokulpillay9824 3 жыл бұрын
Zoro above kid law kums doflamingo queen cracker king katakuri
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t think so without enma. But honestly could very well be since he sas never pushed to the max after timeskip.
@tairobinson2278
@tairobinson2278 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 did u not read the manga? Zoro is above king for sure and same level with katakuri
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@tairobinson2278 as the title states, ACT 2 of wano. Not three.
@SuperHomer1993
@SuperHomer1993 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 zoro by far in the manga stronger than useless kid but if you just talking about the seconde act pretty logic
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperHomer1993 yeah it’s just upto second act. I know he gets crazy strong when he masters Enma.
@blahblahblah6898
@blahblahblah6898 3 жыл бұрын
Nah this is somewhat inaccurate for the most part … although i must admit is not nearly as bad as most KZfaq lists
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Yeah, i’ve noticed a lot of mistakes myself after uploading this list. (Do note that this is only up to act 2 of wano, so no current manga) But i plan on making a new list after act 3 is finished. So feel free to leave your corrections in the comments so I can take it into account for the new list.
@blahblahblah6898
@blahblahblah6898 3 жыл бұрын
@@monked6966 fair enough 🙌🔥 just somethings I would advise you to do before… Read the marinford in THE MANGA… and judge the admirals power levels with a clear and unbiased point of view … were they really weaker than marinford WB at all? Same with current yonkos … do you really think marinford WB is even stronger than any current yonko: 1- he could barely use haki (which a KEY point for any top tier in OP) 2 - his DF powers were weaker than his prime self his strongest attack only gave akainu a NOSE BLEED… What would have happened against someone as durable as BM and kaido 3- his durability is ass…being easily wounded by all types of fodder weapons 4- he can’t fight for too long because of the heart attacks etc.. notice how top tier should easily be able to fight for consecutive days on end He is overall just not impressive his feats are very little and bad for a yonko and most of the time he was shown as being overwhelming was either anime filler or some empty hype with no feats to back it up… even story wise makes no sense for him to be above most people you put him above off
@rushpatriot2866
@rushpatriot2866 3 жыл бұрын
@@blahblahblah6898 Though I agree he shouldn't be that high and he has bad durability everything else you said about WB can be easily debatable
@blahblahblah6898
@blahblahblah6898 3 жыл бұрын
@@rushpatriot2866 such as ?
@rushpatriot2866
@rushpatriot2866 3 жыл бұрын
@@blahblahblah6898 Saying that he could barely use haki. Just cause it wasn't showcased that much doesn't mean he can't use it. His DF obviously does concussive damage as well. So saying Akainu just had a nose bleed is an understatement his organs could be heavily damaged. Which brings me back to the haki. If WB DF is doing damage to a logia user why does he have to showcase haki at all? Exactly he doesn't. Also saying that the admirals were on par with him is kinda of reaching. If they were so on par they should have ended it then and there. Yet it takes all of marineford to take him down. If WB hit Akainu as many times as WB was hit it would be a different story for Akainu. WB didn't fall down once and Akainu fell down from a few powerful blows from WB.🤣So yeah everything you said is easily debatable.
@furkanaksungur2160
@furkanaksungur2160 3 жыл бұрын
Very bad list.
@monked6966
@monked6966 3 жыл бұрын
Then what would you change and why?
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