Top 2 Orchestral Music Production Mistakes: explained with Doggos.
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Күн бұрынIt's time for another "How To Write Orchestral Music" tutorial: let's talk about the top 2 Orchestration mistakes I hear people do ALL THE TIME.
Listen closely, as I won't repeat these things often!
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- STRINGS: Metropolis Ark 1 & 3, Nucleus, Cinematic Studio Strings, Fluid Shorts, Cinematic Strings 2, Jaeger
- BRASS: Metropolis Ark 1 & 3, JXL Brass, Nucleus, Twelve Horn Ensemble, CineBrass CORE, Century Brass, Jaeger, Angry Brass
- CHOIR: Oceania, Metropolis Ark 1, Stormchoir 2
- WOODWINDS: CineWinds CORE, Nucleus, Metropolis Ark 1 & 3
- HYBRID PERCS & LOOPS: Damage, PercX, Decimator Drums, Cerberus
- BIG CINEMATIC PERCS: Los Angeles Modern Percussion, New Epic Toms Ensemble, New Epic Dhol Ensemble, CinePerc
- ORCHESTRAL PERCS: CinePerc, Rhapsody Orchestral Percussion, Kontakt Factory Library
- PIANO: The Giant, Woodchester Piano, Spitfire LABS Soft Piano
- HARPS & OTHERS: CineHarp, Kontakt Factory Library
- SYNTHS: Juggernaut, Serum, Harmor, Jaeger, Evolution Atlantica,
- ORCHESTRAL SFX: Metropolis Ark 3, Palette Orchestral FX
- SOLO STRINGS: Tina Guo Solo Cello, Solos of the Sea, Cinematic Studio Strings Solo
- SOLO VOCALS: Jaeger, Vocalisa
- GUITARS: Basic Live Guitars & Bass routed into Waves GTR / Guitar Rig, Metropolis Ark 1, Heavyocity Atlantica
- TRAILER SFX: Custom / Private Samples, AVA Instinct, Cinematic Trailers Designed, Epic Sound Effects Quantum, Scenes From The Multiverse Vol.1, Juggernaut, Jaeger, Evolution Atlantica, AizerX Classic Trailers Toolkit, AizerX Trailer SFX Tools
- REVERB: ValhallaRoom, ValhallaShimmer
- MIXING & MASTERING: iZotope Ozone 9 Advanced, iZotope Neutron, FabFilter Pro-Q3, FL Studio Plugins
- DAW: FL Studio 20
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@AlexMoukala 5 жыл бұрын
Just so you know: - The song is an arrangement of "Die House" from Cuphead, but 90% of what you hear is original work. What I borrowed from Die House in that bit is the melody playing three repetitions on acoustic guitar before the Trumpet solo part kicks in. Full cover here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7GJlZyinavYaas.html - The doggo pictures weren't shot by my, I got them from a website called pexels. If you want to check out my photography, it's on my secondary instagram page here: instagram.com/alexmoukalart/
@c.t.emerson8175 5 жыл бұрын
Keep doing the amazing work Alex! I've learned so much from your videos :)
@user-wk2gi5cp9y 3 жыл бұрын
your instagram page is unavailable what happened? i hope u r doing well
@bright8482 5 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a dog from plugin boutique.
@jj53368 3 жыл бұрын
same. it’s arriving on Tuesday
@RosentwigMusic 5 жыл бұрын
This is one hell of an analogy. Hahah, I love it
@BluemountScore 5 жыл бұрын
Instruction unclear. Doggo stuck inside a Tuba please fix
@vickemannen9276 5 жыл бұрын
MEETYHTAN have you tried turning it off and on again?
@JureJerebic 5 жыл бұрын
Most common orchestration mistakes: -oversaturation of colors (all instruments play all the time) e.g. not knowing how to orchestrate properly, only using orchestral devices for vertical development, unrealistic mixing (in this case the trumpets are as loud as acoustic guitar), unrealistic playing of instruments (brass and winds play for longer times without breathing or FFF for 20 seconds), and more
@Evangelionism 5 жыл бұрын
"FFFF for 30 seconds". Good lord.
@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy 5 жыл бұрын
"only using orchestral devices for vertical development" Could you elaborate on that?
@augusto7681 5 жыл бұрын
@@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy I think he meant people use block of chords to grow vertically the music but it doesnt have details between the voices.
@georgechadwick8642 5 жыл бұрын
Ehh thank Zimmer for that lol. He's killed soundtracks and watered down actual musicianship with sound design
@jarlhyttel 5 жыл бұрын
That section might be one of best compositions I have heard from you.
@artiscralabs3688 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing & hilarious analogy. It really is interesting to see how narrative, visual, & musical arts overlap in their philosophies sometimes. Thanks for sharing!
@epiczeven6378 5 жыл бұрын
over 9000 notes... damn! that´s something like 55 per second :o! THICC!
@Gnurklesquimp 5 жыл бұрын
Adding a tiny bit of attack can be great additional way to make some sounds that are too plucky fit into the background too, depending on what you're doing. I love breaking my chords into complex voicing structures without it always being a clear call and response and it can really help with that. Dilla also did a great job at that using samples, you can feel many simultaneous voicing paths (Including his baseline/kick grooves) that are a great little melodic and rhythmic groove without being overwhelming. Track 27 is one of my favorites that does this, this simultaneous approach really lends well to the repetition as it adds more depth to each available moment, and the higher notes really stand out as the clear-cut melody once the filter opens up in the chorus. The wah wah also add even more groove and even adds new melodic emphasis still without overwhelming. It's a bit of a cliche, but he really is my biggest inspiration.
@BrEaKiNg_Brad 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate all your hard work and dedication to this channel. Thank you for all your videos. I learned so much and grown so much more confident.
@jonkrindz7934 Жыл бұрын
best tutor in youtube of orcheestral music. :) achieving super melodies and clean mix.you're hardworking guy i see its pretty hard for newbies make something noticible
@judehazeem3113 3 жыл бұрын
Maaaaaan You are awsome You amazing maaan That example was freaking perfect You changed my whole perspective
@nirshadchowthee7180 5 жыл бұрын
These horns man.... Damn ! Awesome vid as usual.
@Evangelionism 5 жыл бұрын
*GREAT JOB, BRO!* I absolutely love how the tutorial and track itself turned out! Thank you, man.
@kinzokumusic6250 5 жыл бұрын
hey Alex! you should do a tutorial on orchestral waltz! its my favorite orchestra style but i can barely get the basics of it down and your tutorials really help me :) (thanks for all your tuts btw!) have a great day!
@AlexMoukala 5 жыл бұрын
Step 1: try to compose in 3/4. Step 2: if you can't figure it out, wait for the tutorial I'll make eventually haha.
@GamingNostalgiaRemastered 2 жыл бұрын
Your tutorials are so helpful. Thank you!!
@lordmusician 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, subscribed to you only today and I’ve learned so much more compared to years of self tutorial
@ameybharati5667 5 жыл бұрын
wow, you are awesome! honestly, I knew these mistakes; both of these, but I REALISED them now so thank! keep posting.
@alexw4901 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing many thanks for making these tutorials
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!
@DMidNyte 5 жыл бұрын
You are SO DAMN GOOD. i love your work
@Michael_H_Nielsen 2 жыл бұрын
Great analogy and explanation :)
@nebsounds 5 жыл бұрын
Hilariously brilliant! Good work Alex.
@ThisIsZiK 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!
@eyo7900 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex, really helpful advice
@kur1479 4 жыл бұрын
Really impressive, you're a great artist
@roelgarcia 3 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@soltan_sound 5 жыл бұрын
satisfying tutorials bro
@hleet 4 жыл бұрын
so well explained, thx
@Artur_Chernyavsky 3 жыл бұрын
Very creative explaining and very cool music...at least, in the bridge!
@robinparik6682 3 жыл бұрын
Great lesson, thanks!;)
@herono-4292 5 жыл бұрын
Yep I'll try to improve those problem
@JAXLOUD 5 жыл бұрын
Who let the dogs out!!!!! Nice vid man thanks
@Reza-ci1wo 4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing
@herono-4292 5 жыл бұрын
Really, I love this song
@anjanguitar 5 жыл бұрын
Good example 🙌
@AakashRMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@vaultcry 5 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@AtharvaMohiteMusic 3 жыл бұрын
6:15 *CUE BEN 10 ALIEN FORCE INTRO*
@pinkponyofprey1965 5 жыл бұрын
Good dog haha! Try to forget that dog now if you can ... brilliant explanation!!! :D
@bensokol-composer1859 5 жыл бұрын
"How many notes?" "IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!"
@LionDestructorofEkumenizam 3 жыл бұрын
es una genio el negro !!!!!!!! muy bueno para la musica clasica
@GeoZero 5 жыл бұрын
very cool
@leonwillett4645 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, where do I put my dog again? On the trumpets? Is the dog a woodwind?
@Evangelionism 5 жыл бұрын
You're supposed to shove the poodle in the trumpet, of course. :P
@EagerSleeper 5 жыл бұрын
Woofwind
@billwarface2730 5 жыл бұрын
Could you please make a video where you show us all your instruments used in a certain track or your favourite to use? I think this video would be really interesting and useful for many people because a lot of people would like to know how you achieved that sounds and what instrument did you use for example for the drums, percussion... Also big thanks for these amazing tutorials Alex.
@AlexMoukala 5 жыл бұрын
I already did: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jpypga-n0J60f3k.html
@darrellm3628 5 жыл бұрын
What? I dont understand. Why is their only 3 great tutors on youtube? Subrscribed thank you
@herono-4292 5 жыл бұрын
Lol I love your intro
@wizendweaver 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the explanation Alex. Do you know when you will be reviewing people's tracks again, or whether we could be notified beforehand?
@AlexMoukala 5 жыл бұрын
I'll try to announce on facebook / discord / instagram / twitter a few days before this time. Next one might be in a few months from now. But there's feedback going on all the time among composers on our discord server.
@felixrafaelbalde9850 4 жыл бұрын
what library is that lead acoustic guitar and tremolo from?
@drlostcause4427 4 жыл бұрын
Is this applicable for electronic music
@conrick1 5 жыл бұрын
2:42 did you actually edit the "fuck" out of the sentence? Lmao! :D
@azakitakanashi8168 5 жыл бұрын
Great tip as always alex! You're the best! But the main problem i usually face is when the main melody is already brought to the listeners' ears, and i want to transition to a new part not so far from my main melody... what im saying is should i introduce a new melody that resolves into the main , or should i hide it in the background so i can bring it up back as bigger and larger? I know that the bigger part of composing is with translating your emotions onto the instrunments, but if you were to look at the process objectively, can u provide any basic guidelines or thoughts to the process? And thanks in advance for your time...
@AlexMoukala 5 жыл бұрын
If your melody is already well clear and memorized in the listeners' mind, you can do some counterpoint and add a countermelody that takes over. I did that in the melody during the first few verses of my Green Hill Zone arrangement: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hJtidKZ7v6e8aaM.html&lc=UgxzU0JsUPFr9_Kq8TV4AaABAg If you want to move your arrangement somwhere completely new, then do a cool transition. Check out my Brian Tyler / Thor The Dark World analysis for good ideas on that.
@user-zu1ex9rz3m 10 ай бұрын
U also need castanets with the lead guitar melody)
@jeremysette3657 5 жыл бұрын
Gd vid!
@jonlagen6946 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Alex , I'm currently working on a Musical Theater score where could I send you some tracks so you could help me with any tips on mixing or composition? Just tips though!
@AlexMoukala 5 жыл бұрын
Send it in the feedback section of our discord server and you'll find many composers out to help you there!
@champropaganda 4 жыл бұрын
Is it normal when you hear one of your strings bark?
@RamonRodgers 5 жыл бұрын
But WHEN do you add the detail? Are you completing the melody, counterpoint, harmony and elements in a preliminary state and then do a second pass to figure out how to bring out the details in a way that doesn't clash? Or do you add detail from the start so the next track you pick already has detail to work around?
@RamonRodgers 5 жыл бұрын
I ask because I've tried both. If I start with detail to work around my compositions start sounding like a patch quilt, "its a drum", "its a marktree", "its a crash", "main line here", "uh ohooo there goes the boom"...But... I seem to do better with simple tracks and change them to detail after, but then it changes the character of the music completely. Like a crescendo lost its flare and power because the bass is an Ostinato with the Bassoon now instead of a sustained rise to FF. Sometimes equally as frustrating.
@MALITHA 5 жыл бұрын
👌
@deepytv 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! I have a question that is not related that much to this video. I hope that's okay. What plugins do you use for all the electric sounds in your tracks? I mainly mean the sounds you can make melodies with. I hope this makes sense lol
@AlexMoukala 5 жыл бұрын
If you mean electronic synthesizers, I use Impact Soundworks Juggernaut and Serum a lot.
@deepytv 5 жыл бұрын
@@AlexMoukala That's exactly what I mean, thank you so much and keep up the great work!
@albinzajac8019 3 жыл бұрын
🔥❤❤❤😇🔥
@TheOfficialdjfantom 2 жыл бұрын
Grettings Alex, i can show You ir sending one track make for me en el studio Mobile and You can listen and tell me your throung or opinion? please
@nicc9798 5 жыл бұрын
when i saw the thumbnail i was like: * inhales * *boi* now i'm kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ps6KqaeYpsWlp4k.html but trice as blowed
@MikeBurnsArrangedAccidents 5 жыл бұрын
8:50 ROFL!
@danieloborne9782 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have any plans to do a tutorial on humanisation? 😁
@AlexMoukala 5 жыл бұрын
Will do, though you'll find a bit of that in many of my instrment family tutorials (how to write for strings, brass, woodwinds etc)
@danieloborne9782 5 жыл бұрын
@@AlexMoukala Great! Will look forward to it. 😁 I'm sure a lot of people, including myself, would really benefit from something like that
@xuhuiming2694 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@ChristopherSiu 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not jealous at all that you know how to use Photoshop...
@AlexMoukala 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not really great at it by any means haha.
@BluemountScore 5 жыл бұрын
Uh Christopher here as well :D
@georgechadwick8642 5 жыл бұрын
How can you bring up strings without mentioning 4 part harmony???? Avoid parallel octaves, fifths and fourths. Parallel thirds etc are okay, but don't overuse them. The whole principle of 4 part harmony is giving each instrument - that is, soprano, alto, tenor and bass, their own melodic lines. That shit's super important bro!!!
@AlexMoukala 5 жыл бұрын
I already talked about multi-timbric / four-part writing in many other videos.
@BluemountScore 5 жыл бұрын
Eh.. what? :'D
@xuhuiming2694 4 жыл бұрын
The dog picture was so photoshopped.
@vman6998 3 жыл бұрын
You look so disgusted at 0:57 😂
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