Top 25 Landon Players | ft. Bates, CJ, Daz & Yumi

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@dreed-ot5nc Ай бұрын

Tbates argument for putting drali so low was that he did well in Swiss but bad in bracket which is fair but then he put comm 4 places above him lmaoooo

@thenayancat8802 Ай бұрын

The goalpost moving is next level, get this man working as a groundskeeper in the Etihad

@impotenceaura Ай бұрын

Just ignore his lists. It's just trolling at this point

@dreed-ot5nc Ай бұрын

@@thenayancat8802 yh this was a generational howler from bates lmao

@capnawesome30 Ай бұрын

Well comm didn't make top 8 to play bad on Saturday. 😂😂😂

@antwanterrl3307 Ай бұрын

Literally two people had Drali lower was he really low??

@CopeFPS Ай бұрын

After watch Bates defend this list, I truly want him as my lawyer

@GregTurismo Ай бұрын

😂

@vibin7396 Ай бұрын

i got in a police chase last night, you think he will take me as a client? haha

@ILFlowers09 Ай бұрын

Bro fr

@vibin7396 Ай бұрын

@@ILFlowers09 yeah bro i got a ticket for doing 196 and running. shit is crazy but its a wake up call and we tryna fight it in court.

@ILFlowers09 Ай бұрын

@@vibin7396 gl man

@aarondeifel6357 Ай бұрын

The roast of VKsailen at the beginning is just gold.

@neil_surya Ай бұрын

Fully deserved lmao I’m so happy he’s getting this much backlash

@edgeribble Ай бұрын

If he doesn't come back to EU I'll be surprised

@Ben-ik2bb Ай бұрын

I must have missed this, what happen with VKsailen?

@edgeribble Ай бұрын

@@Ben-ik2bb he is on Mobula which is all EU players and they played in SSA from EU and took their Major spot

@icedglizzy1403 Ай бұрын

@@Ben-ik2bbmoved to SSA to far worse region then goes and puts up the worst ever LAN performance.

@aidenguo5580 Ай бұрын

I'm always perplexed about the Trk511 ratings. He is clearly the outstanding player on Falcons, not because he's flashy, but because he's been significantly the most impactful player on the pitch. His field control dictates the entire flow of the game, and his midfield decision-making sparks the offense and pressure for Falcons. People are always enamored with Rw9's defense or Kiileerrz's offense, but it's Trk511 consistently crushing challenges and shutting down clears while also playing passes to his team that give Falcons that deadly feel. He's also been insanely clutch for this team through two years now.

@edgeribble Ай бұрын

Tbh I support Falcons cos I really like the twins but this major really made me realise that Trk is the backbone of the team

@aidenguo5580 Ай бұрын

@@edgeribble I encourage you to watch School of RL's TRK breakdown. It's a great watch (if you haven't already seen it)

@enceofthewind4145 Ай бұрын

Calling him the singularly outstanding player is unfair. RW9 is consistent no matter what, and his defense and offensive passing is incredible. Killeerz is almost undeniably a top 5 offensive shooter and overall player in the world currently. TRK is inconsistent compared to both, and his midfield play can be nearly matched by RW9. When he’s more consistent make the argument that he’s the best

@aidenguo5580 Ай бұрын

@@enceofthewind4145 To be honest, I'm not sure what you're watching. I don't want to sound as though I'm bad-mouthing the twins, but they are shockingly consistent under-performers when the competition intensity rises. Trk511 has been the only player to step up in Major 1 and Major 2 during their most difficult series' - compared to Kiileerz and Rw9 who actually has a massive statistical drop offs from Swiss to Playoffs (1.3 --> 0.8, 1.27 --> 0.75 respectively). Saying Trk is inconsistent is ridiculous; he's the only player who actually improves his gameplay when the competition needs him to step up.

@Bigbagofgamer Ай бұрын

in my view, TRK is the best however idk what it is - maybe nerves or sum- he seems to crumble and be pretty inconsistent, and rides on momentum. I see RW9 as the reliable consistent player, but I think TRK's impact matters much more. When he performs, everyone knows.

@neil_surya Ай бұрын

2:57 “he should be on some list” lmao this statement says SO much more than what was intended I think 💀

@JPRequiem Ай бұрын

knew it was over when i saw TRK at 13th

@yousefalokaili2856 Ай бұрын

Falcons still underrated how????

@howardjennings1166 19 күн бұрын

I want to like bates but I've ended up hating him. He's either a total moron or engagement farming to another level. Because his takes are so outlandish the entire video is completely derailed to talking about him, and I've come to the conclusion over time that he's just an attention seeker. 2 falcon players outside the top 10 is just ridiculous. They were immense and ultimately just ran out of steam from so many high pressure games consecutively. It's the craziest thing he's ever done imo and just cements my dim view of his contribution overall. Ugh.

@majesticmo5048 Ай бұрын

Never find myself disagreeing too much with cj's lists (aside from the one time he put appjack outside top 25 and then he won the major)

@ucouldtell3326 Ай бұрын

Literally the only list that makes sense

@konyadake1602 Ай бұрын

out of all lists here, you talk about cj? wtf

@majesticmo5048 Ай бұрын

@@konyadake1602yes, him and yumi have the best lists

@konyadake1602 Ай бұрын

@@majesticmo5048 oh, i thought u were seeing the opposite, i do agree with you that the only the un-americans do have good lists, but i will say johnnyboi is the best beside rw9 and kiilerrz, sure kiilerrz was better in swiss but rw9 is better in playoffs which is more important and i also will say that itachi is number 1 then trk511 number 2, then beastmode number 3. g2 were the champions because they are better as a team not because of beastmode individual impact.

@majesticmo5048 Ай бұрын

@@konyadake1602Johnny's list is decent, but he has hockser below Chicago and jack below chronic which I think is crazy

@neil_surya Ай бұрын

I almost never agree with Johnny but this has to be one of his best lists. I also like how refreshing Bates can be but this is just offensive to the Falcons roster. Bates has more W takes than people realize, but for every W take he spouts like 20 L takes that drown them out.

@mikkilevin Ай бұрын

Do you happen to be from NA?

@nanni5230 Ай бұрын

@mikkilevin do you happen to be unintelligent, hairless, and wear sunscreen to protect urself from ur monitor light

@christopherpartridge581 Ай бұрын

@@mikkilevin do you happen to be from EU?

@cybertrex5649 Ай бұрын

Do you happen to be from SAM?

@eugenelevin9809 Ай бұрын

@@mikkilevinDo you happen to have 3 spare hours?

@revivednutria7124 Ай бұрын

I’m gonna say it, as an NA fan, Johnny had the best list.

@shadowyzephyr 8 күн бұрын

they don't understand how important trk's game sense is

@eternal2220 Ай бұрын

I think if Tbates was not in the video, it would have been 15 minutes long😂.

@howardjennings1166 19 күн бұрын

@pythin2040 10 күн бұрын

@@howardjennings1166 Bates the GOAT, he makes for such good content and really makes the videos have conversation to it. I think he always brings some humor to what could be a super analytical boring type of rating list otherwise.

@howardjennings1166 7 күн бұрын

@@pythin2040 I don't think if bates was there it would be super boring at all. I've watched Jonny & CJ for years and they always make me smile. Also, Bates doesn't bring conversation, he brings frustration. A group of casters will never struggle for conversation.

@johnr1330 Ай бұрын

Why does yumi lowkey look like the handsome filter

@Bigbagofgamer Ай бұрын

omg ur right

@aarondeifel6357 Ай бұрын

Rocket league was actually dragging him down. He glowed you for sure!

@yumicheeseman Ай бұрын

You guys made my day!

@Bigbagofgamer Ай бұрын

@@yumicheeseman its HIM

@blueblueread Ай бұрын

he is becoming yumibroccoliandgrilledchickenman

@15kalas15 Ай бұрын

I've been saying Itachi is underrated since KC won that major

@weavle96 Ай бұрын

Tbates rating Falcons that lowly just indicates that they were nervous and played a poor series in the final but he also says that is not what happened lmaooooooo. How are they not rated higher than this if they did play well in the final?

@xRaPToRv Ай бұрын

Good point

@zeitz4473 Ай бұрын

I mean you have to play well to place high. That just makes sense. That being said. Tbates underrated falcons

@regansimpson3196 Ай бұрын

@@zeitz4473they beat top 3 na and top 2 eu? Whats not playing well about that i dont get it plus falcons and g2 were 4 games to 4 this major

@zeitz4473 Ай бұрын

@@regansimpson3196 im strictly talking about the final. They were undoubtedly the beat team until the final

@regansimpson3196 Ай бұрын

@@zeitz4473 and 1 bo7 hurts them that bad? They destroyed them in the final, but g2 still are 4 and 4 against falcons this major so you cant say one is better than the other.

@Chilldude_101 Ай бұрын

No person in the world gets me as mad as tbates gets me in these top 25 rankings I'm literally shouting at him in my car about how shit his logic is. And when he has a half decent point you don't even care cause it's sandwiched between the most hypocritical sentences you've ever heard. Love his content elsewhere but my god

@_tim. Ай бұрын

that’s the reason they bring him on, it’s entertaining even if the takes are terrible lol

@ChinChin-jw8pd 29 күн бұрын

that's just the classic Bates experience. 1 W take, 10 L takes (but he doesn't see it)

@howardjennings1166 19 күн бұрын

@@_tim. I don't know if it's still entertaining. He's attention seeking and derails an otherwise productive discussion. It's fine occasionally but he always does this and over time his face now just annoys me. Sitting here with my head in my hands over those falcons placements. ugh.

@brandonmertz2170 Ай бұрын

I must be watching different Vitality games bc Radosin gets so much hate. But i never i mean never see Alpha54 doing anything. Its always Radosin killing it when they win Tourneys. Thats not like oh when Radosin finally steps up they win bc I never feel like Alpha steps up. Zen and Rado play well they get to finals.

@greatestever3094 Ай бұрын

He don’t deserve the hate, but yee it’s fact, when he plays top tier they always win but super inconsistent, and alpha kinda getting washed he super neutral atm, but I believe it was that HONEYMOON FAZE went to hard they chasing the dragon and won’t be the same 😅

@soumalb10 Ай бұрын

I disagree, alpha always own the ceiling, He always have exceptional performance in the finals..

@AdrRake Ай бұрын

Dude, Alpha54 doesn't make horrendous whiffs and insane own goals, you just can't compare both of them

@hypejunkie5866 Ай бұрын

Alpha54 literally passed to drufinho and own goaled in their last game against furia to get eliminated.

@bawlzack7877 Ай бұрын

I feel sorry for Rado. He is still a world champ and he wasn't carried at worlds. He has the same issue someone like Itachi had. Doesn't play a flashy mechanical game and had superstar team mates that overshadow him. It took Itachi so long to finally deserve respect. I hope Rado proves the same.

@neil_surya Ай бұрын

Daz’s take about top 24 all being top 8 team members is so bull. It’s possible, as Johnny said, but in practice that’s almost never the case and you can’t use top 8 as the sole argument for a player make top 24.

@kristianvukajlovic6789 Ай бұрын

Honestly Daz's list got a lot of shit for it, which I agree with, but other than that, his list is pretty decent. Everybody that has these players has them low anyway (except Bates crazy logic), so it's not too far off. Move Oski up a few spots and add Brad, Daz might have the best list imo.

@iamnotjcook Ай бұрын

Bates being a stats guy is so funny for LJ when he was a film guy to bring up Firstkiller since his teammates ApparentlySucked

@shanem6156 Ай бұрын

well done boys, absolute class with the introduction

@Terrythechocolateorange Ай бұрын

I love how smug Daz looks whenever somebody challenges Tbates 😂

@15kalas15 Ай бұрын

Players that have won more than 1 rlcs lan in this and last season combined: Zen/Rado/Alpha vitality roster Itachi

@regansimpson3196 Ай бұрын

Na could never

@nah9813 Ай бұрын

atomic?

@regansimpson3196 Ай бұрын

@@nah9813 took him 3 years bro do better these guys done 2 in a year

@nah9813 Ай бұрын

@@regansimpson3196mena 2nd > eu 1

@aronianspigonian8589 Ай бұрын

How many this season tho? Lmfao. You could do that with any dominant team of any year. How many world championship have cloud 9 won this year and the year c9 won combined🤯🤯🤯 more than vitality. C9 better than vitality this year! The team that doesn’t exist! Amazing.

@juve4life149 Ай бұрын

I swear if Jonny doesnt have Beastmode atleast in the top 2, I‘m gonna throw hands… Edit: well well well, nice to see from our most loved scottish caster 🥰

@warlock_r Ай бұрын

I'm just starting the video but tempted to skip ahead, lol.

@greatestever3094 Ай бұрын

Bro gonna have him at 3-5

@leaves2975 Ай бұрын

Hahahaters

@Ken.163 Ай бұрын

this just tells me yall hate and know nothing bout johnny

@chillaxTF Ай бұрын

no faith damn

@Rafutah 28 күн бұрын

Daz's rant @49:00 has to be the highlight for me, LOL

@amrradwan1055 Ай бұрын

Yes! I can finally watch this with no ads! ... ah wait 😅

@mikeyc.1979 14 күн бұрын

Johnny's mental gymnastics to avoid admitting G2 flat out outplayed Falcons is impressive

@AlgaeGaming Ай бұрын

If they don't have CJCJ at #1...

@aidenguo5580 Ай бұрын

The concept that RLCS is equivalent to the NBA is true in some regards, but very off in terms in player rankings. In the NBA, there's one ball, and the division of that ball is voluntarily placed in the star player's hands because they will create more advantageous plays. In Rocket League, the possession is split amongst 3 players close to equally. Therefore, when one player underperforms or is significantly worse than his teammates, it tanks the whole team. In the same sentiment, one NBA player can absolutely carry a team's offense to wins; in RLCS, that is extremely hard to do. Therefore, when teams perform well, the entire roster should be credited with the success, not just "the best player".

@Bigbagofgamer Ай бұрын

nwpo and rule one i feel could be an exception, but i agree

@aidenguo5580 Ай бұрын

@@Bigbagofgamer Actually good point to bring up Nwpo. When star players crush lower competition like Nwpo did in Major 1, but then got shut down by higher level competition, it doesn't feel justified to rate them well. Nwpo, on the other hand, dominated even when his team lost 1-3 to GM8, and continued to crush in Major 1. That is a performance that outranks the team, for sure.

@MrCtwhat Ай бұрын

In the NBA, one player carrying the team offensively to wins is extremely difficult to do as well. The only player who could do that against top teams was Lebron James. Every other player had to have some help in order to win at the highest level. Same thing with rocket league

@nanni5230 Ай бұрын

@@MrCtwhatnah the only person who could do that was Kobe lol, lebron didn't put up enough high point games for that to be true, he definitely needed SOME help. Kobe dropped 60s because he was given the ball every play lol (not saying he was better, but lebron definitely is a passer)

@aidenguo5580 Ай бұрын

@@MrCtwhat We've countless offensively skilled players successfully run an offense by themselves, and not just Lebron. Luka (pre-Kyrie), Harden on the Rockets, Donovan on the Jazz, Lilliard on the Blazers. These teams offensively relied on one player because mathematically, they generate the most points per possession. I'm not saying these players won the title every year, but this argument demonstrates that we value these star usage players more than their teammates because of what they can do with the ball. In Rocket League, with the division of the ball being so even, it's more of a team collab.

@yellowtitan6040 Ай бұрын

people in chat complaining about Tbates are so obnoxious. He's an entertainer, don't take it too seriously. He probably realizes he's wrong on a couple of these picks, he's sticking to his guns because that's better content. Do you want him to say "you're right guys" and go silent every time he gets pushback??? Do you want everyone to agree on everything for 2 hours?

@opliko Ай бұрын

Then it would just be 10 minutes, not 2 hours :P

@Hossdelux Ай бұрын

Its too much, like he could use a 60% modifier for annoyance fr

@h20dancing18 Ай бұрын

@@Hossdeluxyou could use a 100% reduction because t bates is hilarious

@regansimpson3196 Ай бұрын

They love bates but hate johnny it makes no sense they both do the same thing

@nodidog Ай бұрын

People find it annoying because it's like banging your head against a wall. He's *obviously* wrong, it's like he hasn't even watched the event. He refuses to engage in any debate - it's impossible to take him seriously. It's not entertaining, or 'better content'. It's just nonsense.

@edgeribble Ай бұрын

Johnny u cooking up Salt Mine 4?

@itsjusthunter1290 Ай бұрын

49:43 rare daz W

@yosifmohsen625 Ай бұрын

what happened to Roll Dizz??

@BBirdGhost 25 күн бұрын

If there was a bates breakdown breakdown stream please upload it to KZfaq! 😂

@cajatron Ай бұрын

Bates is lowkey spittin. I understand what he's saying

@yousefalokaili2856 Ай бұрын

Yes he's spitting. He's not spitting fax tho it's just straight saliva...

@zaneisaacs14 27 күн бұрын

I just want to say I agree with the Radosin - Draymond Green comparison. Really good player that plays an underrated role on his team. Doesn’t usually make the highlight plays but his team wouldn’t be successful without him

@jablesrolland Ай бұрын

Yumi looking GREAT. Potential weight loss? Killin it

@xRaPToRv Ай бұрын

My top 25: 1 Beastmode 2 TRK511 3 Itachi 4 Daniel 5 Yan 6 Killeeerz 7 Zen 8 RW9 9 Lj 10 Atomic 11 Seiko 12 Firstkiller 13 Lostt 14 Juicy 15 Dralii 16 Drufinho 17 Alpha54 18 Monkey M00N 19 Chronic 20 Chicago 21 Oski 22 Bannanahead 23 ApparentlyJack 24 Radosin 25 Hockser

@samridhdas Ай бұрын

pretty respectable list

@somerandomchad469 Ай бұрын

Pretty good list, however i do think that Zen and Lj are too low

@bawlzack7877 Ай бұрын

I have a couple of differences but overall respectable.

@TVCorpRPG Ай бұрын

Just some nitpicks here and there but overall the best list ive seen so far

@Travixty 19 күн бұрын

they need to have like a 5 minute timer per player lmao, these videos keep getting longer I swear

@proofofexistence1580 Ай бұрын

Bro Yumi needs to commentate more I loved him in the Furia vs Moist

@elias2754 16 күн бұрын

i missed it so much lmao

@kiwishep Ай бұрын

Tbates relishing the one time g2 have won in 2 years praising himself the messiah

@rahqoun9735 Ай бұрын

I mean G2 has been the most consistent team the whole season yet he was the only person who picked them to win the lan lol , makes sense

@robwestb02 Ай бұрын

@@rahqoun9735he’s stood with G2 all season

@aronianspigonian8589 Ай бұрын

@@robwestb02doesnt really matter. The point is that more should back g2

@robwestb02 28 күн бұрын

@@aronianspigonian8589 that’s a bad point considering falcons 3-0’d them in Swiss, it’s easy to look back and say that they should’ve gone for G2 but in reality most people routing for G2 including myself were nervous going into that match, falcons beat m8s the former major champs going into that match up and G2 beat a team that placed top 8 in Copenhagen overall falcons were looking to take it.

@Exsulator2 Ай бұрын

2:09:45 it's an interesting take on "best 3 players" on this list put together is basically the ideal team in the world? Because by this definition the various lists here are colored in a way different light.

@George-li1yv Ай бұрын

Bates is delulu

@Jacobnotlit_RL Ай бұрын

I actually agree with Bates perspective that an individual players performance is completely separate from their teams placement

@thenayancat8802 Ай бұрын

@@Jacobnotlit_RL do you also agree with Bates that an individual players performance is dependent on their team's placement?

@kukazyamra7191 Ай бұрын

agreed

@christopherpartridge581 Ай бұрын

@@thenayancat8802I think his point was SSG made top 8 because of LJ. Especially since they played Falcons so close…honestly, TeBates mindset is correct. Individual performances can be better than a team of all super solid players, but then he puts Comm at 17 and where is Drali??? It’s just sad.

@jay-rq9sy Ай бұрын

@@christopherpartridge581yei agree with him with the lj argument but heneeded to put killerz at 4th place and comm shouldnt be there

@thenayancat8802 Ай бұрын

@@christopherpartridge581 He also used Falcons' placement to justify placing their players so low. His reasoning was literally "because I said so" lmao

@GregTurismo Ай бұрын

Yummi’s beard looks fake. That thing is crazy strong 💪

@_Scred Ай бұрын

How can you not see that Seiiko and Trk completely smurfed this competition? These 2 are obviously top 5 or top 3, watch the Falcons vs M8 series again and even quarters wtf

@xinq_5635 Ай бұрын

Tbates - HOF shifty goal post

@simontmiller Ай бұрын

If next season cloud9 picks up retals, comm, and bananahead I might die of joy

@4oho361 24 күн бұрын

This is the most random assortment of words I’ve ever seen 😂

@420map 20 күн бұрын

Gee golly it’s gotta be rough being as pompous as Johnny and knowing everything about everything

@WV_COAL Ай бұрын

I agree with bates in rating players, the 3 together team avg finish shouldn't always equal the result.

@simonkk7966 Ай бұрын

Tbates is so entertaining but god damn this was a difficult watch even for his standards 😂

@ashtonjack Ай бұрын

Idk he gets cooked even when he's right. He was getting cooked by everyone for LJ take and that wasn't even a bad take

@huh3137 Ай бұрын

Tbh bates is so right about Johnny especially but everyone else. They always do these individuals players list but go base off of a team proformance that defeats the whole purpose of a top 25 player list all together lol. I think a better comparison than nba is gaming term for them. Take the best csgo player put him on a team with scrubs against all pros. He statically does better than anyone on the field but lose 9 out of 9 games. Johnny would say he doesn't deserve to be on a list... lol this should be called top 25 players base on team placement list if anything

@Exsulator2 Ай бұрын

I tend to agree. It feels like influencers of RL scene wants to boost the value of players due to wins for narrative reasons, but it's a huge part of the win who plays with who. The "no. 1" player might in reality not be on a team that makes them competative to win. But it's so easy to bring up team victories and statistics, meanwhile anyone who's played RL a while knows that your wins and stats will tank if your mates are not at your level. Also the opponent is a huge factor. A strong opponent will also tank your stats, whereas weak opponents might boost your stats.

@howardjennings1166 7 күн бұрын

But take any team esport and you can't have success without a team that doesn't gel. Individual performance is completely irrelevant if the team never achieves success. Team performance HAS to be important because there's a skill in picking the right team mates & working together with them to improve yourself & them. A player can be rated the best in the world but if they never make a deep run because the team doesn't work how can you possibly rate them highly compared to people playing a ton more games and winning?

@Exsulator2 7 күн бұрын

@@howardjennings1166 because its not ranked situation, where you get a sufficient pool of varied teams, and so you eliminate the "Luck factor" of team compositions. Meanwhile pro teams, how many teams do they get to try out during their career? There's a huge likelyhood that some pros will never get the chance to play with people of their own caliber. It's a question of probability. It's just unlikely that team wins translates to individual skill anywhere near how it works in ranked with a large sample pool.

@carlostrujillo3851 Ай бұрын

GenG is really underrated by pretty much all of them. I mean, they're the only team in the entire season to have been knocked out of the tournament by a grand finalist twice, even falcons can't say that and they were in a grand final themselves (ofc g2 and m8 have only lost to grand finalists as well but having them win pretty much puts them ahead by default)

@bawlzack7877 Ай бұрын

They had pretty bad luck but you can't fault people for not rating them until they get good results like top 4 or finals.

@bawlzack7877 Ай бұрын

They had pretty bad luck but you can't fault people for not rating them until they get good results like top 4 or finals.

@carlostrujillo3851 Ай бұрын

@@bawlzack7877BDS also finished top 8 in both majors and are still rated higher

@Pinkbunnyrabbit Ай бұрын

1:42:20 I honestly agree with bates here because it’s obvious everyone’s trying to use the falcons success throughout the tournament as their main argument, but lj had more of a dominant performance when it came to just stacking PLAYER performances against each other. Also if you do watch basketball you’ll realize whenever bates compared it to the nba he was in fact spitting.

@toddymcgann5856 Ай бұрын

I usually try and defend bates but wow this list was a troll lol😂

@HaischkaEST Ай бұрын

Daz is right. Daniel was incredible at defending and controlling the ball to quickly counter attack. People are underrating him just because he wasn't scoring goals left and right, but he was dominant. I've got him 2nd as well.

@hiroprotagonest 27 күн бұрын

Bates when talking about PWR players: "Rocket League is a team game, it's about the team unit." Bates when talking about Comm: "I'm basing my list off the individual play, not how far the team goes."

@spiritboxyxbox 23 күн бұрын

Tbf power and its players are absolute rubbish

@Icarys_ Ай бұрын

Would love to see Greybeard on here for some more international representation!

@regansimpson3196 Ай бұрын

Vouch

@tyreklannisterisahorse Ай бұрын

Someone should have put an empty spot at 2 to show the gap between bmode and everyone else

@Terrythechocolateorange Ай бұрын

My goodness Tbates is the perfect lawyer 😂

@JeedoSMY 29 күн бұрын

OCE as orange is criminal. Purple/Cyan is the color for them.

@rikk122 Ай бұрын

Bates is rage baiting, im convinced after watching this video

@nihkhdtigerson1599 Ай бұрын

That's literally all he does and why nothing he says matters. x:x

@joules5251 28 күн бұрын

The friends along the way lol cjcj more like enemies along the way

@codycolburn3292 Ай бұрын

Bates is a small ball of contradictions and madness.

@walkercuz7905 Ай бұрын

i cant keep defending tbates man, he has officially lost it

@Ap0aps1s Ай бұрын

I love watching half of chat not realizing bates is trolling. You’d think after a couple of these they’d figure it out lol

@adamricecracker7128 Ай бұрын

COPIUM

@itznukemx 29 күн бұрын

top 25 Landon players or London players?

@huh3137 Ай бұрын

How is it in the video you couldn't believe that bates had LJ so high but 5mintues later say LJ was top 3 coming out of Swiss and loses 1 game while still playing at a high level couldn't be that high 😂😂😂

@nazbiker1734 Ай бұрын

Video if no TBates: 30min Video if TBates: 2,5 hours

@4oho361 24 күн бұрын

Wouldn’t be a video without him he carries the energy

@Brandon-hd4vg Ай бұрын

it's funny how they just don't get the fundamentals of how tbates thinks about the list. He rates players based on expectations and individual performance, not the team's performance, which is a huge huge difference. A single player could be performing well over expectations and the other 2 teammates could be throwing. That one player could be considered the best performing player at the LAN even though their team went 0-3. Think about Zen being on Team Mobula and going 0-3. Zen would probably be in most peoples top 5 because of individual performance especially if he exceeded expectations. So just look at Tbates list and say did this player perform above, at, or below expectations and it will look a lot more clear. edit: I also love how johnny is arguing that falcons played bad in the finals against g2, but this is the same guy that thought g2 didn't play bad against bds at worlds in fort worth. imo falcons played bad and g2 played bad.

@enceofthewind4145 Ай бұрын

Well sure Bates has some decent logic sometimes, but that only makes FirstKiller who didn’t look special being so high more shocking. And Oski being so high because he looked competent in a useless team is not enough to justify being so high either

@nanni5230 Ай бұрын

@@enceofthewind4145tbf FK was p much single handedly keeping them in the series most games lol. Appjack and chronic were not playing good and they knew it

@1wrongstu1 28 күн бұрын

Hate to say it but Bates made more and more sense towards the end. Just because Gentle8s and Falcons played Faster doesn’t mean anything. Anyone who plays knows the chase type that freak out when you slow the game down. Poor take from ole Jonny rocket

@420map 28 күн бұрын

Exactly. Same reason that OG reverse swept Twisted Minds. Slowed the game down dramatically and made TM have to play slower and more awkward

@subparpt Ай бұрын

Definitely don't agree with the Tbates list, but the question Johnny asks at 2:00:50 roughly kinda proves the point on either side right? If you're saying the G2 members didn't have to "outplay" Falcons for many of the goals because Falcons made mistakes, you can't say they were playing better if they didn't require forced errors to be made.

@thunderpunch6679 Ай бұрын

I've been a G2 fan since season 7 when they went to the finals. I do not claim bates with his takes lmaoo

@sueybvlsnc Ай бұрын

Bates head wrap on too tight wtf is that list 😂

@SleepLess_Plays Ай бұрын

Bates "He can't play defense!" Also Bates *Puts FK above all of Falcons* You ever watch FK play defense? It's not great 😂

@_Scred Ай бұрын

So these guys didnt put Seiiko, Trk and Yan in the top 5, what are they smoking before making these rankings?

@skratatouille Ай бұрын

i need that Tbates pacc

@dansbigfanguitarist 29 күн бұрын

I love how Johnny calls tbates ridiculous for saying the same thing he’s saying just the opposite. Johnny claims falcons played “badly” in the grand finals, and then doesn’t want to admit that maybe just maybe G2 played badly in Swiss lol. The truth is that both teams peaked at different times, but it’s pretty clear falcons played much better in the grand final than G2 did in Swiss, but G2 was on a different level when it mattered most. Falcons peak is still probably close to G2s, but it’s still not clear which peak is higher

@Exsulator2 Ай бұрын

Has itachi become much better recently? I see him high on people's list, now I have yet to have time for watching rlcs this time around. Personally I never rated itachi too highly, but I guess results speak for themselves

@Psyshimmer Ай бұрын

He isn't flashy, but next time you're watching some M8s gameplay, watch how often he shuts down midfield play or scores some clutch garbo goal or creates space for his teammates. He's the least visually impressive, most important player for his team in the game right now, imo.

@bawlzack7877 Ай бұрын

I love Bates. He is an entertainer but damn that list was atrocious XD. Big W Johnny putting TRK at 2. I had him there as well.

@EntertainmentShorts113 Ай бұрын

Daniel was criminally underrated this major. I can’t see him not being top 5

@robwestb02 Ай бұрын

When you look at all the players above him you’d be able to see it, the top 10 are all within a slim margin of each other and can all take each others spots except for mode rn cause he’s been playing crazy

@ignaaRL Ай бұрын

I would say overrated, he was not even top 10 performance

@robwestb02 28 күн бұрын

@@ignaaRL no duh, he’s a third man with a cracked 2nd man and a smart first man, Daniel is basically G2’s rw9 and zen except his 2nd man is better than zen so he doesn’t need to do as much work

@DasKotaBear 27 күн бұрын

These would be boring without Tbates

@420map 28 күн бұрын

Falcons couldn’t perform to their expected level when G2 was scooping up all their boost the entire series. Falcons without boost play bad and G2 forced that issue. That’s about it

@franko-vtro Ай бұрын

I dont understand why johnny was yapping about bates putting LJ individually above falcons yet zen was above all of furia on his list, johnny boi copium, think i def agree more with CJCJs list

@COVID_Is_Not_Over_Yet Ай бұрын

When is Feer vs JohnnyBoi I appjack commentary

@cKarmaRL Ай бұрын

Love these. Honestly thought these list would be better being post major. Yumi community & TBates dropped the ball. Daz butchered the top. Johnny can we get a reason you thought trk did better than Killerz? Curious

@dansbigfanguitarist 29 күн бұрын

Having trk and kiileerrz over Daniel and atomic is crazy. I’m sorry, but Daniel outplayed all 3 falcons this LAN, beast mode was amazing but Daniel was almost as good just in a less flashy role. The whole grand finals Daniel was outplayed falcons the entire time, literally outplaying

@kadenohare4753 Ай бұрын

Daz is wrong about putting every top 8 team in top 24. And Bates is completely right. Two really good players can carry a below average to top 8 easily.

@FEZR2 Ай бұрын

bates with kendrick lamar level of hating for falcons

@yousefalokaili2856 Ай бұрын

Lol

@jackyulga4826 29 күн бұрын

Every hating on bates, but he’s looking at the list different than you he’s rating the PLAYERS not the TEAM. Why is it so hard for yall to understand

@kilawen Ай бұрын

they still hating on g2 thats just crazy

@carminesblade1625 Ай бұрын

There's no way bates really believes some of the stuff he says 😅. He says it's a team game then bangs on about how good one player was. Ohh dear.

@jay-rq9sy Ай бұрын

Tbates was right in the lj argument the whole time tho but killeerz shouldve been 1 place lower then lj and his argument wouldve been perfect

@atomickrispies Ай бұрын

CJ cooked ngl

@davidkosiba624 Ай бұрын

MENA underrate is still insane lol what do they have to do to finally get recognision 😂 They slapped the #1 and #2 EU team , #1#2#3 NA team and only lost in the finals yet they still get ranked like this , not even gonna get into this further tbh , the fact that Zen after a pretty bad Major still get all the glaze says enough

@nico_csy Ай бұрын

When did they "slap" EU No. 1 and No. 2??? And no, Zen didn't play badly in this major, rado and alpha on the other hand were quite inconsistent and rado was not good during the match against Furia.