Ties are nonsense

I would say Tecmo Super Bowl over the first Tecmo Bowl, I would have that somewhere in the top 15 (ish). And Rygar somewhere in 15 thru 20th place.

Pat, I agreed with almost everything you guys said! SMB2 is my favorite of the trilogy; Duck Hunt is way overrated; River City Ransom is better than DDII; Excitebike is there because of the reasons you both said; Batman is brutal to play but a masterpiece; and so on. So many good observations! But don't forget, RETRO also published a Top 100 Underrated NES Games! (I did two versions, with the second one the definitive one.) And *there* you will find the deep cuts that are harder to get onto a list like this one (i.e. an Overall Top 100). I think you will be impressed by the "underrated" list! Hopefully at some point you'll share your thoughts on that one, as that is really the list I show to folks when I want them to see how damn *deep* the NES library is.

@@SweatpantsJoeGames Agreed! I had to do ties where the number of votes from experts led to a tie; I didn't have any ability to break those ties.

@@SethAbramson I guess I missed that part I skipped the first minute because i figured they were reading an ad

When they mentioned Metroid and its difficulty, I had to think about it. We beat it back in the day, but let’s face it, if the official NES cheat guide (Nintendo Power) didn’t exist to tell everyone how to beat these games, it likely never would’ve taken off. I can’t imagine mapping that thing out.

Metroid was a game I would always pop in as a kid and remember I could make no progress along with Kid Ic, Castlevania, and Goonies.

@@HighFiveGhost50 Goonies 2 absolutely. That game was so cryptic. I had no chance of figuring out where to go as a kid and honestly as an adult I don't either without a guide.

I’d argue that it’s an unplayable game today. Thank Nintendo God for releasing Zero Mission on the GBA.

I use Contra for testing how accurate controls are. Mike Tyson's Punch Out would probably be the best test of lag for me.

What's the fun in that though?

I woulda also included Adventure Island 2. But the ones u mentioned deserve spots as well.

I prefer the OG Contra, but I can see liking Super C better. They definitely took legacy into consideration for this list.

I love the original Contra. It is my favorite NES game. I remember being super disappointed when playing Contra in the arcade for the first time because the NES version controlled so much better. Super C is my least favorite in the series. I wish I could get into it. Guardian Legend is amazing. It definitely deserves more people playing it.

Definitely agree, Super C is one of my favorite Contra games, don't understand the hate it gets.

Super C gets hate? That’s crazy. Contra Force I understand….

Haha, Rygar yeah!

Smb3 was such a ground breaker either the way you pick the levels and thr warps and items menu was definitely a big step up from Mario secret levels aka real Mario 2

Smb3 was such a ground breaker either the way you pick the levels and thr warps and items menu was definitely a big step up from Mario secret levels aka real Mario 2

Mario 3 is unbeatable. Flawless game. Zelda is 2 for sure

@MY CATS COOL I love it. A lot of this list is nostalgia. I found out years later that my dad would come home from work (he worked nights) and play RC Pro Am before we woke up or after we went to school. I never saw him play and would have loved to have played with him.

I always felt they made up for this by putting in the warp whistles early. They are very easy to get and with the know how of when to use 'em, you can get to where you want easily. Items are a bit negligible, you can get what you need in levels and as you play.

Fuck those people....Adventure of Link is Great

Mega Man 2 has the better weapons but Mega Man 3 has more levels so it feels more complete (though I wish you could get the MM2 boss weapons).

it was too different to what fans were used to at the time, both Shadowgate and Maniac Mansion are Point and Click's, which were more of a thing on Gaming Computers back in the day.

No ones really familiar with those Rick

Definitely a good one, but I always liked Nightmare On Elm St more

I liked that game back in the day .But i never knew what to do.

i was more familiar with the Gold port on Genesis, which i played the hell out of, still boot it up on occasion, whenever the sea calls to me.

Couldn't agree more, and throw in Battle Of Olympus and Faxanadu as well.

In a library of over 700 games, there are much better games than SMB3. Most people just assume it should always be number 1 cause they feel it has to be due to "popular opinion" and the whole issue with people being unable to think independently for themselves.

@@Alucard24601 Yes it's true... Kirby's Adventure for one.

Super Mario bros 2 is better then 3

3 is my favorite game ever so yeah

I think Excitebike and Mike Tyson’s Punch Out do count as sports games though. But yeah…Tecmo Super Bowl didn’t make the list. I woulda put it in there.

My favorite sports games on the NES were Super Dodgeball and Baseball Stars. When it comes to making a list like this the problem with Baseball Stars is that is was not unknown, but it gets lost in a sea of other baseball games on the system.

@MY CATS COOL seen or saw the same thing...learn the english language, and yes it is.

@MY CATS COOL nope its the same thing .

@MY CATS COOL nope , seen it or saw it . Same thing...

That's because Final Fantasy is the popular, hipster RPG. I can guarantee that if this list was made in Japan, one of the Dragon Quest games (most likely 3) would be close to, if not _the,_ number 1 entry.

Dragon Quest takes a giant dump all over final fantasy. FF doesn't get good until 4

I'd 2nd your inclusion of Dragon Warrior (Quest) over Final Fantasy. If you are just comparing them game to game, Dragon Warrior (Quest) was much more enjoyable.

Dragon Warrior IV woulda been a better pick honestly

@@shenloken2 The 4 on the NES were all good. Yes the grinding at the end of 2 was a bit much but it, like the other 3, still were a lot of fun. 3 and 4 were amazing but a bit longer than I would have liked. The first one gets bonus points from myself for obviously being first but also for the music, being the introduction into RPGs for myself and the fun ways you can challenge yourself within the game. I would try to beat it at a lower level. Try doing dungeons without lighting a path, etc. Even trying out different spells on the enemies was cool to see what worked and what didn't. Out of the 4 of them 1 is the one in play the most followed by 4 then 3 and finally 2.

Love galaga used to play it every week at the arcades back in the 80's.

Me too! Galaga is one of my favorite arcade games as well.

check out gaplus which i think is a great sequel on the nes

it's not their list.

I agree with you about Little Samson. It's a fantastic game that is more thought and talk as a expensive game or an holy grail than the actual great game that it is. One of the overall best plateformer game on the NES. I had a great memorable gaming experience when I first played throught, but I did not played a lot.

For turtles 3 to not be on here is because the second one is more iconic but wasn’t as good as 3

MM2 is great but it just feels like a patch for 1, and still has a lot of problems. 2 is iconic but 4 is the best one

The best is subjective, MM2 is the most popular but it isn't the best since any of them can be considered the best.

That's when Tyson knocked out Spinks I was 15 watched it live

Hated the OG Blaster Master, but highly enjoyed Zero.

I love all of the Blaster Master Zero games. Lots of fun

I don't know. For someone who's entry point into Mega Man was 3, 2 seems to lack the..."polish" of the later entries and it irks me for some reason.

Always stuck between Mega Man 2 and 3.. If 2's Metal Blade was balanced and had the slide, it'd be the easy choice. Also, thumbs up for the Aenima eye.

Mega Man 3 deserves more love. 2, while not bad, seems to be carried a lot by its catchier music, but 3 is more well put together and rewarding.