TOP 3 AI Person Detection NVR Camera Systems - UniFi Protect vs Blue Iris vs Reolink RLK8-810B4-A

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Which AI person detection NVR is the best? Lets Find out!
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:01 Pricing
5:20 Ease of Setup
6:55 AI Detection
8:40 Camera Selection
10:15 NVR Performance
14:46 Privacy and Connectivity
17:10 Final Thoughts

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@jackscrafts9202
@jackscrafts9202 2 жыл бұрын
I got started with a Reolink system for under $100. Even works on my Alexa TV. 5MP 410 cam for $42 a Netgear 8 cam POE switch $32 and a 5 pack of CAT5e cables (50 ft each) for 22.00. Recording 24/7. No need for the SD card or NVR. Using Windows 11 and a USB external hard drive I already had on hand (3 TB). It is set to make MP4 video every 30 minutes. I have already added my 2nd camera and plan on 3 more later on. The windows app allows you to view up to 36 cameras at once. I am really happy with it. Thanks for all you great videos, they do help.
@stevez182
@stevez182 3 жыл бұрын
On the market for POE cameras that can successfully detect person/vehicles and Rob releases this video *hits play instantly
@jeepdog5
@jeepdog5 3 жыл бұрын
My dad just moved into a new house, sent this to him right away as he was asking me for recommendations. Rob coming in clutch
@pkt1213
@pkt1213 3 жыл бұрын
Right? We are closing on a new house next month and I need to start getting the cameras and stuff ordered.
@sniperoth
@sniperoth 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the timing worked perfectly for you. In my case, whether I'm in the market for something or not, as soon as Rob releases a video, I just hit play instantly. LOL
@stevez182
@stevez182 3 жыл бұрын
@@sniperoth haha same here my friend. Rob releases a video. Am I interested in the topic? Sometimes not even remotely. Am I gonna watch the video anyway? ABSOLUTELY!
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
@stevez @victor @pkt @trevor I appreciate you guys.
@squirrelsrus1
@squirrelsrus1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to the setup video! Thanks for all of the work you do!
@jtkilroy
@jtkilroy 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic content. Perfect timing as well. Setting up a blue iris server this week.
@scottpugmire5449
@scottpugmire5449 2 жыл бұрын
I really like Blue Iris. We've used it for years. Their support is great. It works well with every camera we've tried.
@trevisol22
@trevisol22 3 жыл бұрын
looking forward to view your DeepStack/Blue Iris video. Thanks Rob!
@stevepessy
@stevepessy Жыл бұрын
Finally took your suggestion and started upgrading my whole system to Reolink. Ripped out all the bnc cables and ran all new cat6. Impressive upgrade. Also some of the features have been updated on reolink since you made this video! It's a great system.
@benjaminreinhardt259
@benjaminreinhardt259 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another quality video about a subject I am looking into. I am a knuckle-dragging mechanic and electronics baffle me. I appreciate you dumbing it down enough for me without losing the depth of the material.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
Mechanics are wizards in their own right, glad this helped.
@baderaltamimi87
@baderaltamimi87 2 жыл бұрын
I use Reolink for a few locations and the Unifi Protect for a few others. I have also used a Synology NAS and a few other solutions but never Blue IRIS. The reason I feel comfortable with Unifi Protect in certain locations is because when depending on cellular connectivity for most locations, I have found the reliability of the connection to be unparalalled. In a summer house, chalet, or any infrequently visited but essential location, the peace of mind of getting a dependable connection even when the connection is not very dependable and speeds and latency fluctuate massively at times is very important. When setting up a camera system for someone else, knowing that they can consistently connect to their camera and have reasonably smooth viewing at any time of day seems to provide a certain ease of mind and gives a polished feel to the whole experience. I have been shocked at times how a simple reconnect or message of "live viewing failed" on Reolink left a lot of people feeling that the system is unreliable or not secure. This is my main reason and is one that I have found brings a lot of trust in the product by friends/family. TLDR: Unifi Protect when using LTE connectivity especially when viewing on the go on an LTE mobile device.
@ManuelA-qf4xu
@ManuelA-qf4xu 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time and efforts on this review. It really helped me on my decision. I got the Reolink and I am really pleased with the performance and easy setup.
@mattjohnson7835
@mattjohnson7835 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! I've had a Reolink non-AI NVR system since I opened a small business in April 2020. I've been happy with the 4 cameras and NVR. I paid like less than $250 on Amazon. I am considering adding a single AI camera to my system and already checked to see which ones are compatible.
@joshoooway
@joshoooway 2 жыл бұрын
Your scientific approach to the relevant topics you hit on this channel is admirable and appreciated 🙌🏼
@WillDS_YT
@WillDS_YT 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who is already somewhat in the Ubiquiti ecosystem (access points and switches) I'd love to expand the system to include cameras/NVR... but you're absolutely right - their prices are obscene! If Ubiquiti ended up +$200 over blue iris... fine, that would seem fair. Maybe even +$300.
@IamMugs
@IamMugs Жыл бұрын
I haven't found one good reason for the extra expense and then being locked into their ecosystem. My only guess is you spent too much money starting off and can't cut your losses.
@loupitou06fl
@loupitou06fl 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Unifi Protect user here. I agree that cameras are too expensive and no VPN connectivity is stupid. But I migrated from the Unifi Video system few years back and they kept the compatibility with my G3 cameras, offered a deep discount for the NVR pro when I traded my old Video NVR and the features on Unifi Protect are regularly updated, patched and support is good. Armed with the knowledge you kindly provide I'd probably go a different route today but I don't regret the path I took, few years back Unifi was a mile better than Foscams and other systems.
@pingpt
@pingpt 3 жыл бұрын
Great review as always Rob, thanks for this I’ll keep an eye out for the BI review/setup Been wanting to improve my current BI installation especially now with the new version with AI
@attakorns
@attakorns 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your effort into making this, cheers!
@hillnate09
@hillnate09 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video of your whole security camera system. I’ve seen the blue iris setup but I would be interested to see camera choice at each spot around your house and why.
@ChadHershey
@ChadHershey 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that Blueiris integrated Deepstack and wondered when you'd do a video on that. Now I know!
@BellaNestCam
@BellaNestCam 3 жыл бұрын
I think he said in about a week how would do a video but he will soon - the new Deepstack integration in BI is great and once BI fine tunes it - it will be amazing!
@CraigMullins1
@CraigMullins1 2 жыл бұрын
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@JustinWild
@JustinWild 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the BlueIris setup video!
@dannewcomb8810
@dannewcomb8810 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the new blue iris video. I've stocked up on some amcrest cameras, repurposed an old PC for video, and purchased a license about 3 weeks ago.
@DIYtechie
@DIYtechie 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob. Really good and useful review 👌🏻
@cvnis957
@cvnis957 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this, very helpful as always.
@Frraksurred
@Frraksurred 3 жыл бұрын
Researching home surveillance, again... and again, your videos cannot be beat! Thanks for all the incredibly useful info.
@AdeshMG
@AdeshMG 3 жыл бұрын
Learned so much here. Thank you mate!
@AlJay0032
@AlJay0032 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, great summary.
@uthanwintun
@uthanwintun Жыл бұрын
As Great as always from this Guy. Thanks
@TheDarkWayne
@TheDarkWayne 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so freaking great, thanks a lot.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jebadiaha
@jebadiaha 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the fantastic review and info. Because of you I am very happy with my Blue Iris system. Next up for me ... AI integration.
@runbren
@runbren 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Keep it up
@briand2614
@briand2614 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I bought the Reolink you tested over 2 years ago and it’s been sitting in a closet while waiting for my remodel to finish. Interestingly I had started looking at network options over the past few days and specifically Unifi Dream Machine. I was beginning to think I made a mistake buying the Reolink. I’ll pull out the Reolink and blow the dust off, I’ve already run lots of ethernet cable. After that maybe I’ll buy a few Access Points and plug them into my Modem/Router while I continue to research a longer term Home Network solution.
@rschmidt563
@rschmidt563 3 жыл бұрын
Great video with lot of work you put into I believe. Maybe you could consider power consumption next time as well since power prices keep going up. Keep on with the good stuff!
@mrlizard6529
@mrlizard6529 2 жыл бұрын
Couple of things on Ubiquiti that I wanted to point out. 1. If you setup RTSP streams from the UNVR or UDM you can view them from any software capable of streaming on that protocol (Blue Iris for example), and can be setup on any PC with the specs to run it. The video is streamed from the NVR and not the cameras 2. The newer Unifi platforms unfortunately did remove the functionality, or at least made it very difficult, to setup remote viewing. Again if you download an app capable of viewing video streams then you can view them using either port forwarding or VPN, but that's a bit of a challenging setup if you're not familiar with networking. The older NVR from a few years ago could do all three of the security/privacy connection methods you mentioned.
@MrFerrariF360
@MrFerrariF360 Жыл бұрын
Updating this comment for item 2. Unifi now has a VPN client that connects back to your Unifi router from your phone it is nearly point and click, and also site to site VPN is very easy if you have two locations.
@e90julien
@e90julien 2 жыл бұрын
ordered with your link, thank you!
@JamesMeikleAustralia
@JamesMeikleAustralia 3 жыл бұрын
Got the feeling that you were getting bored of walking in front of Cameras in this one Rob, but it's bit more entertaining ;)
@jasong1376
@jasong1376 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid Rob
@MichaelBylehn
@MichaelBylehn 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I won't say no to have a yearly video on this, even if they're on the same camera models :D especially with software improving with time.
@lossless4129
@lossless4129 3 жыл бұрын
YAS i was hoping for this
@DPCTechnology
@DPCTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Another great review man!
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! I just watched your hikvision vs protect comparison last night!
@DPCTechnology
@DPCTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp I love it.. I think ur smart to skip it.. I love this roundup, I need to give Reolink a try, what do u thing about it for commercial installs.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
I don't do commercial installs, but my best friend does. Anything under 16 cameras gets reolink, anything above that gets synology.
@DPCTechnology
@DPCTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp Awesome, thanks for the feedback!
@FrankGraffagnino
@FrankGraffagnino 3 жыл бұрын
love this video. great job.
@tdmdchannel2339
@tdmdchannel2339 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I'm a Reolink user. To download a specific video, i like to use directly on the NVR itself to usb or from the mobile app on my phone. I find the PC client app to be slow. However, you don't have to download an hour clip on windows, you could simply use the cut tool with the bracket (mark in & out) to select a specific event to download just like the NVR app.
@kenjohnston3670
@kenjohnston3670 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, now I need to buy a new PC for my Blue Iris :)
@Hellmiauz
@Hellmiauz 2 жыл бұрын
I got that same reolink NVR with those same 4 cameras. For a home made solution. Coming from nothing to this, at that price it's God sent. I saw so much stuff i had no idea was going on near my property. Could be better, yes, but overall can't complain. They also reply support tickets quickly.
@jwheeler91
@jwheeler91 3 жыл бұрын
I recently switched from trying to get a good surveillance system running on my Linux server, to a NAS running my apps, and the Reolink for cameras. I haven’t had any misses from my cameras since I tweaked the motion sensitivity and trigger zones and added blocked out areas where I didn’t want the AI to read (it doesn’t use the motion mask to filter AI recognitions for some reason). I am super happy with my set up now. I love tinkering, but I have other projects I am prioritising over these things which I now consider mission critical
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Blue Iris system, and am not tempted to go to a Reolink NVR, but I agree that it is the right choice for the vast majority of people.
@hesamzx10r
@hesamzx10r 9 ай бұрын
Super helpful thanks 🙏🏼
@sdfhjklhsfdjdsflhkds
@sdfhjklhsfdjdsflhkds 3 жыл бұрын
Another great (and fair) comparison! I took the Blue Iris plunge (already had a server and cameras) so looking forward to Rob's next video. I've been messing around with DeepStack, but I'm sure there's some tips and tricks I've msissed.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
I've actually learned quite a bit while making the video.
@jahwerx
@jahwerx 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. NO FILLER.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
Less filler, less stuff to edit :)
@bigendertroll
@bigendertroll 3 жыл бұрын
another great video... thx
@mobgma
@mobgma 3 жыл бұрын
great video!
@christianbouligny9182
@christianbouligny9182 3 жыл бұрын
Do you plan on doing the best battery powered cameras for 2021? Love your videos!!
@tabysetterstrom6061
@tabysetterstrom6061 3 жыл бұрын
When opting for a solution one could consider that security will be effective when it is seamlessly integrated into existing workflows and routines and when the least technically interested person can enjoy the benefits from the solution. It is much like photography - The best photo is the one that gets taken. Thanks for a great assessment!
@danielmcgowan9534
@danielmcgowan9534 2 жыл бұрын
"The best photo is the one that gets taken." Excellent point!
@GlennPhilp
@GlennPhilp 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone should watch this video, especially before investing in a security system. The downside is when a person (me) has already invested too much money into a system. 😕
@moe61806
@moe61806 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Unifi fan boy, although I'm not sure why anymore. I would say the biggest reason is the wife approval factor. She likes being able to open the app and see what is going on. I will watch your updated video about Blue iris, and I may convert. thanks for the content.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
My wife approves the blue iris app and uses it all the time.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
Also, that first sentence “I’m a UniFi fan boy, although I’m not sure why anymore” runs deep with me. I really hope they can pull up on the stick before completing their crash landing.
@TheOgres3DForge
@TheOgres3DForge 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp So much this! I really wish they'd just open up Unifi Protect to 3rd party cameras. Their cameras/price points just don't make sense currently.
@jeepdog5
@jeepdog5 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOgres3DForge and their availability sucks! hard to beat 2-day prime shipping on Reolink 810a's & 1220a's
@fj5492
@fj5492 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOgres3DForge I’ve been saying this forever, even If they change a license per cam.
@RobinCawser
@RobinCawser 3 жыл бұрын
Rob, sorry if someone else has already mentioned this, but Blue Iris 5 comes with the DeepStack integration included now - it can even boot DeepStack with Blue Iris. Super simple to get up and running - I only found it in the settings the other day. Also DeepStack is now free with no need to register to get/refresh API keys.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was definitely in the video.
@adamfritzsche
@adamfritzsche 3 жыл бұрын
In the upcoming BI setup video, can you maybe go over improving motion detection in BI, specifically with using the low res feed. I find I have to really go out of my way to trigger mine. Meanwhile if I do motion on on the high-res feed it's great.
@nicholaskigen
@nicholaskigen 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks this was useful
@MactelecomNetworks
@MactelecomNetworks 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video. Although I love my Unifi cameras I can see why most would'nt want to pay the high prices. Not being able to connect through a VPN is brutal and it should be offered
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
It just seems so wrong to me that the selling point of a UniFi network is granular control of each device in the firewall, but then with UniFi protect there is no information about what ports is using, what it’s listening for, etc. Edit: love your videos btw.
@MactelecomNetworks
@MactelecomNetworks 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp I've brought this up with them before but it take Ubiquiti what seems like a long time to make any changes. wow didn't know you watched my videos made my day :) keep up the great content
@charleskozel
@charleskozel 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the justification for why to get a 6th+ gen intel processor.
@joshlemons3662
@joshlemons3662 3 жыл бұрын
I wasted weeks of my life trying to get blue iris to do what I want. Never got smooth playback, clean two way audio, and a doorbell camera to work how I wanted. I figured my time was more valuable and went all in on the UniFi system, got everything setup and working great right away, better than I ever got with blue iris. Their doorbell is great, better than ring since it’s completely local storage no fees and better than all the crappy Hikvision knockoff doorbells that are 70%functional with blue iris.
@FollowRevolutionNine
@FollowRevolutionNine 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have the hardware to support it?
@kt323
@kt323 2 жыл бұрын
Should have just hired someone who knew what they were doing
@DavidWX877
@DavidWX877 3 жыл бұрын
Been happy with BI for many years now. I do use ubiquiti but see no reason to switch with the high price tag.
@mariogk
@mariogk 2 жыл бұрын
I use unifi protect just because i was already a UDM-PRO user, and the cameras prices are over top i agree, but it is so easy to setup, doesnt come with a subscription and the APP and WEB UI for me are perfect for my use case
@JasonParham83
@JasonParham83 Жыл бұрын
Just the video I was looking point for. A coworker just went all ubiquiti and I was danger close to that option myself. Instead now I'm full speed ahead with blue iris.
@P44man
@P44man 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe next time you can also look at Frigate. I run it as addon to Home Assistant, and while it doesnt have all the bells and whistles of BI, and its still a little rough around the edges, Im slowly fading out Blue Iris in favor of Frigate. You can run it on a Pi (using a Coral accelerator ideally) or anything that runs your HA and its AI is superb. It also ties in to HA much easier and better. Oh and its free. And open source.
@fretzy9999
@fretzy9999 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the cameras are expensive but if you already have a cloud key Gen2+ or UDM Pro they are sunk cost and the quality of image (incredibly smooth) and the speed and AI accuracy (Protect is identifying things that Blue Iris is missing at least in my environment) and the fact it just works is tough to overcome... fully agree though with the cloud access issue it doesn’t even work across VLANs inside the house! Also, with the latest update I noticed the addition of a subscription menu section... so its possible Ubiquity may be doing a bit of a bait and switch with some of the new features and shift them to subscription model - time will tell.
@tytalkstech
@tytalkstech 2 жыл бұрын
You have to think of the bigger cost. It is not sunken cost when you can still use it for something else. 400 dollars per camera??? You would easily spend a whole lot more in cameras than just foregoing the unifi protect. I have a udm pro for the networking component. In no world, would i spend 400 bucks on one camera. You are better off investing in other system. Besides adding more functionality to your udm just means less resources for the other component especially when you have ips and ids running.
@RicardoMaranhaoMD
@RicardoMaranhaoMD 3 жыл бұрын
you rock!!! love from brazil
@SamPhoenix_
@SamPhoenix_ 3 жыл бұрын
16:32 You can also access via a reverse proxy like NGINX, which while does require port forwarding of HTTP and/or HTTPS ports, but will act as a gatekeeper; requiring you to have the correct domain/subdomain to connect to the NVR, which you can do for free with a service like duckdns/noip or by buying a domain as cheap as around £/$10, which any wrong domain will show an error page & is especially useful if you have multiple services that you want to access outside your network but dont want to always conect to a VPN. You can also use a Unifi local account on desktop if you port-forward/use a reverse proxy
@stefans6658
@stefans6658 2 жыл бұрын
I have tried many softwares for nvr and so far Frigate NVR with 45/50$ reolink poe cameras works flawless. Notifications are handled through home assistant
@gmaclean1
@gmaclean1 3 жыл бұрын
I think my usage case came down to I already had a UDM Pro, a 2 TB HDD laying around and possibly a little laziness :). I only have a G3 Instant ($30) currently and obviously doesn't do smart detections, but it still gives motion alerts, which is a start. Something to grow from at least. Having said that, one thing missed on the G4 Pro is it does offer a 3x optical zoom, which can be handy if you need focus on something further way from the house. If my UDM Pro didn't have an NVR? I'd consider Blue Iris. I already went down the HA route due to yourself and a few other similar channels showing the benefits. Boy, what a time sink that is! Hah
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
I think deploying a few g3 instant is actually the best use case for UniFi protect.
@bobbymooreok
@bobbymooreok 3 жыл бұрын
0:03 - You've got my Thumbs Up
@shorawitz
@shorawitz 3 жыл бұрын
Blue Iris DOES work with ZeroTier. I've got that setup and it works great! I use it for BI, HA, other web based services I run locally. Oh, and I forgot to mention - it's free for up to 50 nodes.
@WillSteeleMusic
@WillSteeleMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Another epic video! Like Christmas every time I get the video notification. Do you plan on doing a video/ giving recommendations on best License Plate Recognition cameras and setup (especially at night W/ headlight glare)? Does Blue iris have license plate recognition?
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
All the ALPR stuff that I've seen is subscription based, I have a camera set up to view license plates right now, but I haven't actually gone through with setting up ALPR.
@WillSteeleMusic
@WillSteeleMusic 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp Great! Would love to know which Cameras you recommend for reading license plates and specific setup settings needed. Thanks for getting back to me Rob!
@theflyerpr40d
@theflyerpr40d 3 жыл бұрын
On the next episode add the Lorex Fusion system from Costco or from Lorex it self. Wonder how their AI compares.
@davidschwartz1625
@davidschwartz1625 3 жыл бұрын
You said that you can't go back an look at the details of the AI detection on Unifi Protect, but the web interface does allow you to "Highlight Smart Detections" when viewing a clip from the Events list (or from the dashboard thumbnails). Doesn't do much to diagnose the misses, but you can still see a box overlaid on the video to show what the positives (and false positives) are. And I'm pretty sold on the Unifi Protect system, but I'm not so blinded by fanboy-ism that I can't acknowledge its many glaring shortcomings. Features come and go with every controller and app update, fixed things break again, some obvious features are just never implemented despite persistent user demand. And I knew that's how it was going to be just coming from Ubiquiti network hardware/software. Still, I decided on Protect to replace my Blue Iris setup when it was time to update my aging cameras. I think the things it does well are done really well (and I always hated the Blue Iris iPhone app). I like that it's integrated with hardware I already ran, so I could stop running the single-purpose PC I had for Blue Iris. Unifi Protect is one of those choices that I know doesn't make a lot of objective sense, but just felt right for me at the time. I don't regret it, either...usually.
@ProMace
@ProMace Жыл бұрын
7:25 I have the ACTUAL v2.1 NVR Camera System. Zero misses. Couldn't be happier! 😃
@dreadroberts7523
@dreadroberts7523 Жыл бұрын
I love Frigate NVR software for camera AI
@norbertsipos1079
@norbertsipos1079 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, and honest opinion! 1 thing I was missing in the review is the (mobile) notifications. From my point of view, this would be essential to get instant notification when somebody hanging around my house. I like the VPN solution, but how the notifications can work with it? Do you need your mobile connected to the VPN all the time?
@UnderwaterAnxiety
@UnderwaterAnxiety 3 жыл бұрын
The reason I would choose ubiquity over the other options: I already have a dream machine pro setup and a two terabyte drive. If you don't get the 4K g4 cameras then they are under $200 a piece. I would only need two cameras so for under $400 I could have an NVR. That I think is what's appealing with the unifi protect system.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
I hear ya, so you got g4 bullets? Just devil's advocate. For the price of 2 G4 bullets (4mp cameras) and a a 2tb hard drive you could have had the reolink system with 4 4K cameras and a dedicated NVR.
@Mailm4n
@Mailm4n 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp I gues the main reason for Ubiquity products (at least it was for me) are not the cameras or NVR itself, but the whole system including Wifi APs, UDM Pro as firewall and Protect as NVR system as well as ease of use. Camera quality for the price might be a bit disappointing since you can get better image quality for less money, but G4 Dome at 179$ works just fine :)
@mowomedia4801
@mowomedia4801 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mailm4n That's one thing this video overlooks is the central 'ecosystem' of a Dream Machine Pro or Dream Machine SE (of which I just got the latter). Being able to log in and see your network activity/stats, live cams, recordings, AP, etc. There is added value there for the cost of entry. Like another commenter said about even the least tech savvy household family user (wife, teen daughter) being able to navigate is icing. The new doorbell pro and upcoming smart lock will further add convenience for little cost.
@aaliankhan4998
@aaliankhan4998 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you test the frigate addon for home assistant. It's supposed to be an NVR system tightly integrated with a home assistant with object detection.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
Digiblur made a video on that, I won't be touching it until it's a bit more mainstream friendly (offers playback and has a UI).
@w84no1
@w84no1 3 жыл бұрын
I am buying a Google Corral so I can test out frigate. Not sure I like all the YAML stuff without a gui for configuration. I currently run BI in a VM on my Xpenology server, but that is a lot of overhead (Windows). Hopefully, Frigate will give me similar results using less resources.
@RoofusKit
@RoofusKit 3 жыл бұрын
There's nothing I want to integrate my surveillance system into more than the instability and overhead of Windows.
@jtkilroy
@jtkilroy 3 жыл бұрын
The lack of Linux support is unfortunate
@BrianSimmons
@BrianSimmons 3 жыл бұрын
This isn't Windows ME anymore. I use a Windows machine for my home automation system (Charmed Quark Controller), and my TV DVR system (SageTV). I run a second machine for my CCTV system (BlueIris). These machines run 24/7/365. I haven't had any of these Windows machines crash on me in years. Seriously, it's probably been a decade since I had one of these Windows machines bluescreen on me.
@RyansGoslings
@RyansGoslings 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrianSimmons bluescreening isn't the issue. it's all the forced updates, reboots, and freezes. yes, i've disabled all the updates. the windows solution is still crap.
@pimix2009
@pimix2009 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, Have you ever gotten a chance to look at Lorex's person and vehicle detection cameras?
@StefanOlson
@StefanOlson 3 жыл бұрын
I've gone with Unifi. Spent a lot of time trying to justify the extra expense vs BlueIris/DeepStack or Reolink. For me I already have all the Unifi bits, so it's just much easier to set up. I can plug and play. At the moment, only need one camera, so got a G4 Pro. just don't have time to setup BlueIris, which would probably be my alternative. I look forward to your video on that but just looked too daunting to me (+ I'd need new hardware for it)
@cyclomiha
@cyclomiha 3 жыл бұрын
I have that Reolink on my summer cottage with UPS. Even now and then there are power outages lasting from few seconds to several hours and because Reolink's power consumption is minimal, systems stays alive with cheap small UPS (with added extra battery) without issues. That would not happen with i7-based PC :)
@m4dcl0ud
@m4dcl0ud 3 жыл бұрын
Great work on all your videos. I was wondering if you have any recommendation for a Blue Iris alternative that can be run on a Linux system?
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
Frigate
@DaleCoghlan
@DaleCoghlan 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a Blue Iris vs Camect AI detection capabilities video
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly camect only supports 24 megapixels total of cameras, so it would only support 3 4K cameras, or 4 5mp cameras.
@merwanlabtani2712
@merwanlabtani2712 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for the great video. Could you use Reolink NVR for live view (connected via HDMI to TV) and 24/7 recording but still use the stream in Blue Iris for AI recording? Assuming cameras (all are Reolink) are not connected to NVR directly but to PoE switch (same as the one NVR is connected to).
@Aurleis
@Aurleis Жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting together this unbiased analysis of these camera systems. I'm planning on using the Reolink RLK16-820D8-A (on order after watching your videos) with Blue Iris recording and AI detection. Best of both worlds (1st/2nd place in most categories).
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp Жыл бұрын
You might run into an issue where the RLK16 only outputs low resolution RTSP streams for each camera, I'm not sure if that has been changed/fixed.
@Aurleis
@Aurleis Жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp I'll see if there is still an issue with low res appearing on BI5 and let you know. Either way, it sounds like BI5 is going to be my best option with AI motion tracking, and if the problem persists with the RTSP stream quality, I might have to utilize the Reolink itself to pull the higher quality video. 👍
@Aurleis
@Aurleis Жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp Just wanted to give you an update: While I can't speak of the 810 cameras, the 820s don't seem to play nicely with BI5. Even with a high-end PC and only running 4 streams, the streams will cut out abruptly or dance around trading places with other streams wildly. Video is also heavily pixelated. Unfortunately, I'll have no choice but to use Reo's app until better integration exists with the superior BI5.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp Жыл бұрын
@@Aurleis You need to follow the steps in this video EXACTLY for them to work (yes, you must delete and re-add the camera using ONVIF): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mdt8o6egkrq6e2w.html
@Aurleis
@Aurleis Жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp Thank you. I made the mistake of just checking my firmware status on the Reolink NVR and it said it was up to date (but the version number told a different story). So, when I installed the cameras they auto added and the only main device is the "NVR" with the cameras listed below it. This means that the only way I could force an update to the RLC820A cameras was by downloading the latest firmware (from your Reo-link), and putting it on an NTFS flashed USB-drive. Done. The other two streams presently installed are a single Duo PoE 4mp, but since that was giving me the least of issues, I wasn't worried. After installing the firmware, I moved back to my PC and redid the cameras to be ONVIF protocol and not RTSP. For the Duo PoE, I kept that at h264 (since it's not 4k) and the other two RLC820A the main stream was h265. That took care of the pixelation. The cameras still will go offline and sometimes dance around the stream (albeit far less frequently than before). I did adjust the frame rate of the cameras in BI5 to be slightly than what was set on my NVR, but this didn't seem to make much of a change. It's possible that I may need a dedicated system (specs per an early video... or perhaps this one) running only BI5 and nothing else in the background to remedy this issue completely. I have since set up BI5 on my HA through MQTT and am quite happy with it. Thank you again for your help, it made a substantial difference :)
@pfurrie
@pfurrie 3 жыл бұрын
Good roundup. Would like to see a similar roundup that compares and contrasts Blue Iris with QNAP and Synology NAS.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
QNAP and Synology don't have their own person detection built in at the moment, if they start offering that I'll give them a look.
@locusm
@locusm 3 жыл бұрын
Synology has person detection but only on a specific NVR with a GPU, its also really pricey in Australia.
@313Renegade
@313Renegade 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp As locusm stated, synology does have it with there NVR geared nas such as the DVA3129 which I'm leaning towards.
@MrMammoth726
@MrMammoth726 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp Synology does offer AI detection. Deep Learning NVR DVA3219
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
Just looked it up, looks like the current version of the AI NVR is the DVA3221, it's $2500 without any drives and only includes 8 camera licenses. Thats... a lot.
@roberthernandez7564
@roberthernandez7564 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for shining a light on UI Protect's atrocious lack of local access. Not that UI actually will listen, but more noise is better than none.
@jacobrohr
@jacobrohr 3 жыл бұрын
I think they did listen because they recently add local connections. I haven't been able to test a VPN connection yet but I plan too soon.
@roberthernandez7564
@roberthernandez7564 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobrohr Thanks for the heads up. I'll have to check as soon as I get home.
@iambyrdman
@iambyrdman 3 жыл бұрын
I had Unifi for a while but had compatibility issues so I changed to Fortigate and had no more problems. So.... I wish you would do some stuff on Fortigate. I have a 60E router with 24 port POE Fortinet switch backed up by a 24 port non powered switch. I have 6 open ports :rollseyes) Thanks for all you precious time
@haukurorsson833
@haukurorsson833 3 жыл бұрын
That single dislike must be from Ubiquiti's CEO :)
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, I just said the same thing.
@haukurorsson833
@haukurorsson833 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheHookUp I'm a Protect user though, probably mainly because I just generally like Ubiquiti's hardware. My whole home network is Ubiquiti (Edgerouter, Unifi switches, various Unifi APs, Cloudkey Gen2+ etc.) so I guess I chose Protect just to have a single "eco system" of hardware.
@sniperoth
@sniperoth 3 жыл бұрын
@@haukurorsson833 My home network's also Ubiquiti. Heck, it's also what I rolled out for our company. But being great with networking doesn't automatically make them good at NVR. The P2P-only / no VPN support is just infuriating and essentially means their NVR doesn't wanna play nice with what's already within the same freakin network. So in that regard, it doesn't really matter what 'ecosystem' you have in your network, it still needs to phone outside just to work. You'd imagine that a security-focused tech company whose clientele is mostly IT professionals or enthusiasts would understand the importance of security/privacy/access control, but I guess it got outweighed by their desire to lock people in to their service (by forcing P2P).
@SamPhoenix_
@SamPhoenix_ 3 жыл бұрын
​@@haukurorsson833 I live and die by Unifi for networking with how well it works but the only reason I would consider Unifi Protect is for the doorbell. Although, at that point it isn't worth it, I may as well keep my camera that looks over the front door & generic doorbell that is DIYed to work with HA and send notifications with video.
@haukurorsson833
@haukurorsson833 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamPhoenix_ Yeah I actually plan on adding the doorbell myself, if it's ever in stock again ....
@ct33938
@ct33938 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Could you maybe consider a video on creating your own secure VPN connection to control HA etc? Afaik all of your VPN guides are ubquiti specific? Thanks
@ct33938
@ct33938 3 жыл бұрын
I understand will be dependent on your router etc, but you could recommend a router to purchase also?
@BobBostwick1
@BobBostwick1 3 жыл бұрын
Have you heard of / installed frigate? I've not tried it yet, but it looks promising.
@drlovety
@drlovety 3 жыл бұрын
Great video (as always) and holy crap...no VPN connection for Unifi Protect? Mind-blowing. They've been getting burned a lot lately, especially with their forced use of cloud-based access. BTW great catch because if I was setting this up I would have never have thought about checking to see if Protect offered VPN support. Crazy!
@chuckmccollim
@chuckmccollim 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time creating this! Is there a reason to get the bullet cameras over the turret? I think I like the look of the turret better for home.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
The bullet is all metal vs the turret that is mostly plastic.
@kieran.stafford
@kieran.stafford 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video. I recently purchased the Reolink RLN8-410 which is very similar to your review model. The biggest disappointment for me is the software. As you mentioned, there is no way to access AI detected events except the phone app. The windows client and web interface are a little clunky and non-intuitive. I notice that the nvr itself runs very hot. So much so that I actually opened the case to see what was going on inside. There is a passive heatsink in use, I'm tempted to replace it with something bigger perhaps with a fan.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
More cooling is never a bad thing. If Reolink developed their desktop app I think it would be a game changer.
@tismonkoh
@tismonkoh 3 жыл бұрын
I know that these are wifi and max out at 1080p, but would you mind comparing the accuracy of the SimCam Alloy 1s against the others? The low cost and on-camera AI really drops that bar to entry to a basic system. I have one now and definitely have a wishlist for it, but I'm not using it in a way to really test it's accuracy like you did here.
@pennakira
@pennakira 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the videos. Do you know if the Blue Iris docker works the same as windows version?
@TripleMachine
@TripleMachine 6 ай бұрын
I wish you made an updated version video including Synology dva3221 nvr and a highend Hikvision/Dahua camera to compare how good their AI has gotten over the years
@lickylauda
@lickylauda 3 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison, myself I have a Unifi setup with multiple g3 flex camera’s and just added two g3 instant. Only recording on motion with a cloud key gen2 plus is basically all I do. I compared it with a synology with surveillance and reolink camera’s the unifi setup was cheaper in that case.
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the G3 instant makes protect and interesting value proposition, unfortunately it doesn't work with person detection.
@davidwithers7181
@davidwithers7181 Жыл бұрын
Curious on if the cloud key does everything the nvr does or even the dream machine..... also @thehookup which mobile app is the most wife friendly, she's not messing with a VPN and we don't have a static ip
@nodave77
@nodave77 3 жыл бұрын
I use a mix! I have a blue iris computer running all of my exterior cameras. I already invested in unifi for my home network and was getting a UDM Pro anyway, so I got the G4 doorbell and G3 flex cameras for watching the dogs while Im away. I like the G4 doorbell because none of my delivery people press the doorbell, so the person alerts let me know when someone was there.
@BellaNestCam
@BellaNestCam 3 жыл бұрын
My BlueIris alerts me of deliveries to :) My neighbors must think I sit by the door waiting because once they are delivered I grab them. I live on a main road and don't want to loose any more packages.
@nodave77
@nodave77 3 жыл бұрын
@@BellaNestCam I haven't tried out the deepstack settings yet, and I'm not likely to switch all my cameras to BI anyway but it would be a nice improvement over the motion alerts.
@vegaforce2539
@vegaforce2539 3 жыл бұрын
I think you have been really harsh on Ubiquiti. I completely agree that their cameras are super over priced. But to be fair, 4K, 2k or even 1080 is not the only measure. Why do you need 4k for a surveillance camera? I chose ubiquiti because: - I was rebuilding my home network and the overall cost with router and access points was cheaper (8 cameras) - Their G3 flex camera is great for the $70 price (1080 with good lens specs that beat other 2k cameras IMO in daylight and night vision) - Data is stored locally without monthly fees - Flexibility: Later I added two of the super cheap wireless G3 instant cameras for kids rooms. Planning to add thr doorbell later - AI is useless IMO. Why is all that hype? Even the best one has false positives. Instead I set zones with different sensitivity and Protect timelapse feature is amazing to detect times of activity quickly - HA can do some AI on top of Protect with some tweaking for any automation purposes I know security was an issue, but with 2FA and no need to establish VPN each time I want to access the cameras is great. It even accesses them locally super fast on the phone when I am at home. I didn’t like BlueIris at all. But thanks for the video. Reolink seems impressive for the price
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