Chelsea they have won the champions league so they are the biggest club in regards to performances. Arsenal is the biggest in terms of fan base. Also the arrogance of Flex to stay that City isn`t bigger then United, as of right now that is true, but give it 5-10 more years of success of Man City then that will change, it is delusional to act like these things can`t or won`t change. Based upon the dominance of AC Milan, FC Barcelona, Juve, Man U etc in the 90-00`s those fan bases would have expected these things to stay consistent for 10-20-30 years into the future, that clearly hasn`t been the case Man City and Madrid are the teams that dominate football on the global scale, most players in the world probably want to join one of these two clubs unless they support some particular club.

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@@thetruth4654 the difference between united and city is the longevity of who they are as a club. United have been at the top level multiple times, the 50s, the 70s, the 90s, the 2000s. it brings in generational fans, these people have kids and their kids support united and see them win, and it goes on and on. its why united has one of, if not the biggest, fanbase in the world. The same can be said about liverpool, periods of dominance and coming back and doing it again. at some point for city, pep will leave and city will lose dominance, whether instantly or gradually is irrelevant, it will happen. Empires always fall. the test for city is if they can regain that dominance. If they can they can rival united and liverpool, but until they get that generational success, they can never acrew the fanbases and size of liverpool or united. in 30 years maybe, but not before then. The same can be said about the story for united. with the busby babes, the munich crash, fergie and the class of 92. The players theyve had as well, not just world class but characters, roy keane, cantona, beckham, ronaldo, robson, bobby charlton etc. These players are etched to not just united folklore but football folklore and yh de bruyne is a fantastic player, arguably better then most of those, but he doesnt have a character that sticks with ppl. The first i think city have that could be like this is haaland if he can stick there long enough. All these things go towards building a story over the generations that people can get behind and support, and city dont have that. currently there story is oil money and buying the best coach in the world after he already proved he was at barca and bayern. So no, theyre not bigger and trophies in the short run wont instantly make them bigger

all i know is rory is a donkey and i already know he said some dumb shit in this vid

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Yoo that's clean

Rory probably puts him on just for that too!

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You know the dem way there

I was wondering what that was 😂😂

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The stadium isn't it 😭

😂😂😂 Expressions is singlehandedly carrying Spurs. I swear if it weren't for him, Spurs wouldn't have had a representative. Still, you're a savage for that Rory 😂😂

I like how u like your team but u should not be blinded at times view things in right way

I like how u like your team but u should not be blinded at times view things in right way

Tottenham have more fans in London and surrounding outskirts of London than Chelsea facts Chelsea only have a bunch of tourists Glory hunting fans abroad that got on the band wagon 2003 onwards

Last 35 years arsenal 5 league titles 9 fa cups, Chelsea 5 league titles 7 fa cups and 2 champion leagues. Even in recent history Chelsea are not dominating London. Arsenal are so much bigger overall it’s scary.

You can consider them, but the more recent the trophy, the more it actually matters imo. If the people who watched you win said trophy are no longer alive, it ain't as relevant as a trophy the world saw you win 5 years ago for example.

@@shehrozamar4644 by that logic Chelsea are a bigger club than Liverpool, which we know is catagorically not true.

It’s based on when you started watching football. Over the last 30 years it is Chelsea. That makes some ppl mad but it’s the truth. When you have to start having a history lesson to talk about your team then that is bad. As time goes on the ppl will forget the years and years of the past and start referencing current events. Unless Arsenal put up some silverware they will just be a team that plays nice football.

@@004TOBY Again, by this logic Chelsea are a bigger club than Liverpool because according to you, nothing they achieved before 30 year ago matters to anyone today, they've only won 1 league title and 2 UCL's compared to Chelsea's 5 Leagues and 2 UCL.

Liverpool will always be bigger in terms of legacy , fans and worldwide exposure. However they havent been at the top since the 80s. Chelsea have been more successful in the last 20 years.

Never ever...0 ball Knowledge u have

No European history

Opps crying 😂

@@AthedriveinStill bigger than Chelsea

@@madmullahthegreat6122still no European history

trophies goes to Assna??

Worldwide chelsea has more fans

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@@Max-kx9wymost major trophies in London cry

More fans metric is actually not true, I don't know fam thinks fans only means the UK

@josephntabo84 I don't live in the UK and there's far more Arsenal fans than Chelsea fans where I live. Also when I have visited London, I see loads of Arsenal tops. Barely any Chelsea

Same I respect Arsenal way more than Chelsea.

Black players getting special treatment again

Arsenal having black players was the main reason I became a fan

Lol they was bought 4 years later

Before their respective take over City were bigger and had won more trophies.

@@jackhewitt600 lol what?

Chelsea have more relegations than league titles 😂🤣😂

@@izyjo6399 Not my words mate, his 😂

To compare Man City to Manchester United is kind of like trying to compare Chelsea to Liverpool, sorry you just can't. Period.

Exactly my point. It's levels@@raymondbutler834

Nope. City were a much smaller club against United than Chelsea ever were against Arsenal in their history. it's not comparable. City were peddling relegation regularly bruv. United were royalty. Chelsea were a midtable team most of the time until the money came in

Doesn't matter the degree of failure between Chelsea and Man city, they were still a banter club pre premier league era and still turned out successful in the prem era @@ayakid921

Not really united has 13 prem title compared to city's 7 in the prem era . Arsenal have 3 prem league title with zero ucl 🤔

The Cup Winners' Cup wasn't more prestigious. You can see it by the clubs that qualified for that trophy. It was not prestigious at all. The European Cup was reserved for the champions. The UEFA Cup was reserved for the remainder of the top 4. Hence why I hate it when some fans call any European trophy a European Cup. Chelsea is NOT a bigger club than Arsenal.

@@lionelsheja6381 incorrect. CWC was the second tier European competition - that was official, read up. UEFA cup only became the second tier when CWC was phased out in 1999

@@lionelsheja6381I don’t think you know what the cwc is mate

@@HKNYN1 I am very aware of what it was.

@@livvi67 I stand corrected. Although the funny thing is that the better teams from the previous season qualified for the UEFA Cup.

Let’s make this nice and simple. No!! 😉🦅

what did they censor?😂

Ex you should’ve argued Tottenhams case for being bigger than Chelsea before they got oil money. Spurs deffo still have more fans in London now

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That's not a debate arsenal will always be bigger than us no doubt but Chelsea is the best club in London . The lorry is the biggest vehicle on the road but its not the best

This debate will always exist. I wasn't born when Assna was winning titles but so to me and everyone else who's living in the moment don't care about that.

Arsenal ain’t been relevant for 20 years ago

😂. Not relevelant but won 2 fa cups. Reached the UCL final in 06. Finished top 4 15 out of those 20. Not at our best but far from irrelevant. Sit down

Literally had one league title before him

This is so true 👍🏽👍🏽

Chelsea have more relagations than league titles 😂😂

Last 35 years arsenal 5 league titles 9 fa cups, Chelsea 5 league titles 7 fa cups and 2 champion leagues. Even in recent history Chelsea are not dominating London. Arsenal are so much bigger overall it’s crazy.

Then why is it neck on neck ? Arsenal literally had a history of steady succes starting from the 20’s Chelsea only have on period the Abramovitsj era. And Arsenal have more trophies. Chelsea only have Europe. If we win in Europe we don’t separate from Chelsea (we already are) we only cement our selves even stronger to be the 3th best in England. Cuz we are ways away from the 2 up north.

@@ysfelo3818 bro I’m a die hard gooner, but 2 champions leagues don’t mean nothing. You get me?

What the hell does selling for £1 have to do with anything. All it proves is somehow the owner absolutely fucked the finances of the club

I agree Arsenal are way more respected than Chelsea.

yeah if forest had the same no. of league titles along with their european titles....they would have been a bigger club than arsenal....completing football is a bigger achievement than counting leagues won by you pre ww2

He's a fan. He'll be bias 😂

Yeah he constantly involves Chelsea in most conversations and claims they’re a bigger club in London then Arsenal . No way . Champions league in the past 15 years yes but the trophies The Arsenal have won , Chelsea are not even close

​@@livinginlondon6122he's takes about how he lawys used to consider arsenal bigger until they met in the uel final. When he calms down &talks on his own or 1on1 vs a group, you actually hear him speak his mind. He had a lot of respect for arsenal

@@kurtsudheim825 he should still have a lot of respect for Arsenal . Regardless of KZfaq

Chelsea have won everything there is to win in football, Premier league, Fa cup, carabao, Champions league, Europa cup, club world cup...so all round Chelsea is bigger

True, and despite chelseas success in the late 90s early 00 pre Roman, they still only had 8 major trophies. Spurs had twice the amount with 16 when roman first bought them.

Before Roman took over chelsea were in the CL for 1 season.

„In the 30 years before that“ Bro are you dumb or something? You guys want to use trophies from the 60s of players you never saw playing or don’t even know the names of. I’m not even a Chelsea fan but realtalk these argument is so full of dumbness.

Ntm.the debt to get there

​@@thf3038literally 1 league title before the Russian

How this argument makes sense? Doesn’t that makes it more embarrassing for Arsenal and spurs that Chelsea still managed to win 5 of the biggest European Trophies on club level and twice of them being literally THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE 💀

@@diyar728that doesn’t make sense either then lol

@@Skullkid64 what a strong argument that is

@@diyar728 don’t need one, Arsenal by a country mile bigger. Only 12 year olds will say Chelsea because of how they bought everything

@@Skullkid64 „they bought everything“ you declare someone else as 12 years but bring these childish arguments hahahahahhaa You have nothing to say because you know you are wrong But anyways whatever makes you happy lil buddy

Man forget social media followers, am an arsenal fan i follow almost every well known club am sure there are lot more people who do that.

@@sarahmensah3627 So do you fellow Chelsea, there no way I will fellow Arsenal. How do you prove Arsenal have more fans than Chelsea then. Chelsea have 134m and Arsenal 93.7m.

@@dawitkbreab2924 yhhh i do follow them on Instagram and i know alot of people and journalist who support other clubs but still follow others on social media.

@dawitkbreab2924 I'm an Arsenal fan, and the only social media I have is Instagram, and I still don't follow Arsenal. I don't think I need to, to prove I'm a fan.

@@MithridatesIX Am not saying if don’t fellow your team, you’re not fan and also am not saying Chelsea have more fan than Arsenal, i know Arsenal have more fans. It not a big difference between them like 20 years ago. Success always attracts fans.

Who cares about the 80s or 100 years ago? That’s really clutching at straws lol

Because they bribed there way in

​@GenesisSN some of them who is talking about 100 years ago is probably 20 to 30 and don't want to admit that the club has gone backwards.

yeah cause they bribed their way to the 1st division when they were demoted....

@@k-mc12slayerentertainment.85 they can have their history whilst other teams are modern day greats

Really and truly Chelseas success has come from Roman now without him you see they are back to where they’re truly are

The funniest thing, thats regency bias. A few years ago before the forced selling of Chelsea. They won their 2nd UCL and looked like they are on their to way to be bigger than Arsenal

@@bigfactos but that actually proves how good of an owner he was besides money. He could chop and change managers but still keep his side winning or fall off for one season and be back again. Now we see Todd spending so much money 10 year contracts and still playing shit

1919 scandal and original money club of England. Arsenal can't talk

True, but you did also benefit from a "promotion" that was very questionable. However, I do agree that Arsenal are bigger than us, with regards to the fan base and such I do think that could change but depends what happens in the net few years or so

@@OniLink97 Yh ofc it was shady how we just got promotion despite finshing 5th in the 2nd division. Which the reason was bcuz they felt how big Arsenal were (could be) even tho we haven't won a proper major trophy at the time. Similar to how big west ham are in east London

@@OniLink97 but I'm glad ur not like most of ur fan base who are uneducated and just think a CL makes u bigger. Cuz I never heard Villa or forest fans say this so its mad how chelsea fans and even city fans force this dumb narrative

@@BestInTheWorld13x exactly, there were arguably a couple of teams who deserved the promotion more at the time and it certainly helped you gain success. However, doesn't change the fact you became successful and won countless titles

Fair point

Last 35 years arsenal 5 league titles 9 fa cups, Chelsea 5 league titles 7 fa cups and 2 champion leagues. Even in recent history Chelsea are not dominating London. Arsenal are so much bigger overall it’s craz

Why tf you are writing this weird? Are they no schools in north London?

@@diyar728 Actually Im Lebanese 😅 and for the writing weird , I'm not exactly sure why I always put new lines in my comments , it's a habit Im trying to stop. My punctuation has always been horrendous though , so there's that.

@@goonerjhh youre good buddy

@@goonerjhhthe prem era is most relevant and that's why Man U are considered to be the biggest in England. Despite Liverpool's 6 champions leagues, United dominated most of the prem era making them bigger. But before anything else, you can't even be in this conversation about being big if you've not even got a single champions league. Even city are bigger than arsenal now.

@@DrBased123 that is a different debate altogether , I'm focusing on Rory's double standards when it came to ranking Chelsea higher but not against Chelsea

Also Chelsea were winning trophies in that Zola era

What exactly is that supposed to show? Chelsea had a couple of decent seasons right before Abrahmovic came, and? City still had more League titles and FA Cups.

Last 35 years arsenal 5 league titles 9 fa cups, Chelsea 5 league titles 7 fa cups and 2 champion leagues. Even in recent history Chelsea are not dominating London. Arsenal are so much bigger overall it’s crazy

@@2for10 2 champions leagues and 2 europa leagues in that time hold a lot more weight than more fa cups

Exactly. Chelsea clears and I’m a west ham fan ….

Fun fact worldwide chelsea has more fans than arsenal

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@uniquenessplayz293 Worldwide is exactly why Chelsea have way less supporters. I'd be surprised if they had more supporters than Aston Villa and I'm being dead ass

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Expecting Rory to be consistent is impossible

Nottingham Forrest isn't bigger than Arsenal.

understand this, Arsenal is bigger than chelsea DOMESTICALLY, overall they are not Chelsea's trophy cabinet is more richer than arsenal's. don't forget to use the word DOMESTIC when you compare

​@@MithridatesIXthey are

@SaneleJiyane-rv3ev I think you need to understand how to address a point. Are you saying OVERALL Nottingham Forest are bigger than Arsenal?

​@@SaneleJiyane-rv3ev6 league titles also speaks volumes, 1 league title in 100 years also speaks volumes

Can you go on about their amazing UCL history?

Last 35 years arsenal 5 league titles 9 fa cups, Chelsea 5 league titles 7 fa cups and 2 champion leagues. Even in recent history Chelsea are not dominating London. Arsenal are so much bigger overall it’s crazy

In London that is obvs

United aren't bigger because they dominated the prem era. They're bigger because of the worldwide fanbase they built while dominating the premier league. Fanbase is the major difference between United and Liverpool because if you based it solely on trophies you could say Liverpool have been slightly more successful. Fanbase is equally as important as trophies won which is why the order goes United > Liverpool > Arsenal > Chelsea > City. If a club's size was solely based on trophies, you could say City are bigger than Chelsea now but they're not

​@@simransandhu8373Chelsea hv more fans on social media than arsenal

@@thaaRealMFer9944 yeah that's true. Although it's probably because chelsea's fans are more likely to have social media since their fans are younger. But in real life it isn't even close. Arsenal have way more total supporters

@@simransandhu8373 I'm telling you facts you can verify on the net and you telling something I can in noway verify so by default my point is valid so Chelsea does hv more fans

​@@thaaRealMFer9944social media is not real life. PSG have more fans than both on social media

anymore? where are chelsea right now?

@@joshlarcelet2977 Chelsea won a ucl in 2021 it’s not the same

Okay sir. Well done.

can't imagine being a chelsea fan. sad stuff

Only 3 years and Chelsea are already irrelevant. Arsenal went ten years without a trophy but still remains relevant.

Even troopz 2 years ago was like yeah 'Chelsea is the biggest in london now Blud...

What’s bigger achievement winning a “The Treble” (Fa,league,UCL) or winning just one more UCL I mean which is bigger Man city 1 Treble or Chelsea 2 UCL

I don't see Villa or Forrest they also have UCLs according to your dumb logic

Stop overrating the UCL.

1 game, changes the rest of our history?

@@richardsowards6020 Yes, nail in the coffin . Chelsea were growing and had done the champions league before anyway but that sealed the deal

The landscape where you haven’t beaten Arsenal at the bridge in the 2020s?

Facts

Nobody cares about Chelsea, they are a small club in reality.

A few FA cups for Arsenal? Are you brain dead? Arsenal have won 14 FA cups the most FA cups that any club in PL has won wth are you on?

To add on google Clubs by major honours in terms of total trophies It’s Liverpool then Man U then Arsenal and then Chelsea in that order

football didnt start in the 90s. go on take all of football history into account.

@@Journey22405 the dumbest comment I’ve ever read thank you for further helping me with the argument now knowing how moronic you are lmao

Entire history of a club, you can't pick and choose... what if they never changed "division 1" to the 'premier league' ? It would all be just division 1 wouldn't it ? 🤦‍♂ its just a name change. Arsenal are much more successful domestically and over a longer period of time. Chelsea have been relegated 6 times. We have never been relegated from the top flight (only other club that can say that as well is Everton). We've won a league title in every decade since the 1930's, a part from the 2010's. Longest period without a league title is 20 years (this year🤞). Other clubs time between titles: utd 27 ,L’pool 30, Chelsea 50 , city 44, spurs 61 and counting 🤣 Most doubles, with man utd, only one of a handful of clubs to do a 3peat. Highest unbeaten run of 49 games (and city talk about 14 game runs...try 49). Anyhow, I could go on but you get the idea. We haven't had dominate era's like Liverpool and utd, but what we have been is a consistent club. I think that's what makes a big club, as well as trophies of course. Chelsea are undoubtedly the more successful club over the last 20 years. But the overall consistency of arsenal is its legacy, not essentially a 20 year history of Chelsea...

Arsenal definitely have more fans in the UK compared to Chelsea, and as the panellists are from the UK, they are going by their experience. When I say in the UK, there could be 8 Arsenal fans for every 1 Chelsea fan, I am not even exaggerating. That's not even meant to be a slight to Chelsea. It is more Arsenal are traditionally considered part of the biggest three clubs, behind Utd and Liverpool. The number of fans you have in the country you are part of has to count for something.

​@MaximilianXXX I'm in the US, and at the preseason game last summer, the crowd was 70% Arsenal. So even worldwide Fans base wise it's not close.

Statistics are rubbish when looking at worldwide fanbases. Manchester city have the 3rd most followers across social media yet no one sees city fans anywhere globally. The followers are from bandwagons from random parts of the world.

Global fanbases depends on performance on Global tournaments like UCL mainly.. Chelsea is know for its presence globally but here in India very few people actually Supports Arsenal.. like a bucket of water in ocean.. Globally people only care about UCL that’s true. & definitely Right Now Man City is bigger than any club from England as of now &. It will increase only.. because due to likes of star faces coming in squad.. Haaland is face of Man city &. He will represent the club even more if he wins the ballondor

@@parthsharma7900 "Right Now Man City is bigger than any club from England" 😂😂😂😂😂 What drugs are you smoking? City would win the next 10 CLs in a row and they still wouldn't be as big as Man Utd or Liverpool globally.

Turkish ur argument is like saying i’m better because i have 15 bicycles and you only have 4 lamborghinis

@@onset6ix No. I can’t debate someone that calls a league title a bicycle. You don’t understand or choose not to understand that league titles are the bread and butter of being a big club in any league. CL’s help extend the reach and size but without periods of domestic domination the CL’s don’t hold as much weight. Red Star have a CL, Aston Villa have a CL, Forest have 2 CL’s, none of these clubs come close to Arsenal. Ask yourself why…

@@TurkishLDNcmon bro how can u be bigger having to go back to 03-04 for a major trophy, history can only carry u so far. let’s be real ur an fa cup club. i’ve always heard ur fans say to city fans b4 they won a ucl u gotta win a ucl to sit with Arsenal, Liverpool & Utd, lol. what about u man ? it’s always ar the ‘invincibles’ or we have to go back to 1930. not suprised flex was backing u cuz both ur clubs rely on history, knowing both ur enemies across the road are about to overtake u if not already which i believe chelsea has over arsenal, city are yet to surpass utd. and the whole notion arsenal have more fans globally is false, we only trail behind Utd. after that its liverpool then yourselves at 4th, search it.

@@onset6ix 😂😂😂 an “FA Cup club” that has more league titles then you? Make it make sense. The whole “you haven’t won the league since 2004” point is so stupid, you’re essentially putting an expiry date on trophies 😂 forget 2004, Liverpool have one league title in 30 years and you will never reach the size of club they are because trophies and achievements dont expire.

@@TurkishLDN bro u n flex were basically saying no club should be allowed to succeed aside from Arsenal, Utd & Liverpool because us 3 clubs held all the wealth & dominance for majority of the past 50yrs. Abramovich came & promised that he was going to invest funds to not only help Chelsea FC rebuild after the poor financial position that the club had been left in, but he wanted to build up a club that wasn’t apart of the monopoly of dominance and financial power that Utd, Arsenal & Liverpool were happy with for half a century. btw, the entire reason Arsenal had any relevance since the early 90s is down to 1 man, Arsene Wenger the genius. The man that was behind the “Invincibles” and bargain signings that Arsenal continued to make under him. yet these sorry Arsenal fans are the same ones that disrespected Wenger, even to the extent of bringing the banners out to humiliate one of Arsenal FC’s biggest ever club legend. also here’s a list of premier league clubs with the biggest fanbase in order, that majority of ur fans use as an excuse as to why ur ‘bigger’ than Chelsea FC aka The Pride Of London. Utd Chelsea Liverpool City Arsenal 🤡 Tottenham tottenham are closer to overtaking u than u are to overtake city, calma. website: footgoal.pro