Top 5 SHOCKING Amp Dyno Tests!

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2 жыл бұрын

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These were chosen based on how amazed I was after testing the amps. Some were inexpensive amps I didn't think would make power, others were more expensive and put out crazy power. A fun list of my surprised amp dyno tests over the past 8 years.
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@fodycord4654 2 жыл бұрын

The Orion is my favorite. 13k from a "3,000" watt amp was unreal lol.

@jeffneedstogivejakeaturnon1083 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Crunch 90k that'll do that no problem. Lol It's got a 30 amp fuse and everything.

@wal 2 жыл бұрын

It is truly incredible. Even though it’s a burst test, still crazy whack funky

@constantinjitariu1439 2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffneedstogivejakeaturnon1083 30A fuse????🤔🤔

@joesshows6793 2 жыл бұрын

WOW!!! That is just insanity!

@kriptic22 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, the budget amps doing rating are cool. That Orion is just stupid.

@jaymiller5443 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta agree with that Orion being the best, damn those numbers are insane! Loving what JP is offering too, got some really cool features in his designs.

@91CavGT5 2 жыл бұрын

Has it been that long??? Time flies when you put out quality videos on a regular basis!! Thanx Bid D!!

@wal 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother 👌

@joseluisruiz3789 2 жыл бұрын

Man, you have to really appreciate the level of editing on that Slayer Amp. As someone who also has a KZfaq channel on Car Audio DIYs I appreciate the time you took to make this video. Editing takes a while man.

@wal 2 жыл бұрын

I have a secret with that particular vid…😬

@88mattm06 2 жыл бұрын

It's a template on imovie 😎

@joseluisruiz3789 2 жыл бұрын

@@88mattm06 nice!!!

@xhuff317 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid, thank you! Takes me back to HS in the mid-late 90’s… I had one of those punch 200’s that ran bridged into 2 ohms for a while and never skipped a beat. Had a buddy that saved forever to buy an Orion 2100 HCCA and that thing was just stupid. New to the channel but I’ll be sticking around, great to see we weren’t always making bad choices back then. 😂

@HifiVega 2 жыл бұрын

That Orion got my number shocker fo sho! The Bully trailer was super dope tho

@esilva2789 2 жыл бұрын

This segment was a long time coming. Nicely done👍

@detonationpyrotechnics4156 2 жыл бұрын

Love the content Big D!!!! Keep up the good work for the community. You are literally saving us thousands man!!

@sonodrome 2 жыл бұрын

For me, your TDA7498E 160+160 watt Chinese mini amp video totally blew my mind. Even though it didn't do rated (which was to be expected) I can't believe how much power those cheap little boards can produce, astonishing! They are now my goto amp for battery powered sound systems, thank you Williston Audio Labs for making these videos and doing the amp dyno tests. You are a huge asset to the audio community, keep on being awesome :)

@bobbywoemack3334 2 жыл бұрын

The Orion 3k was easily the most shocking amp on this lineup. It was actually the cheapest korean amp you tested at the time. It survived the half ohm test and went on to do 10,000 WATTS!! more than rated!!! And it was $250 less than the Sundown at the time! Nothing on this list compares to how crazy that was to see

@balkamp8888 2 жыл бұрын

Always loved my old Rockford amps back when I first got into subs. Still have a few trophies in the shop from those amps

@azmike1956 2 жыл бұрын

Fun stuff Big D. Always a blast checking out sonic surprises especially when you discover them during or after an install.

@drunkenbass6128 2 жыл бұрын

I love the MTX 2300 video. 2200 from a 600w amp. Mtx 💪🏻

@littlejln213 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, for sure number 1.

@samueljackson2478 5 ай бұрын

By far the best one besides the Kenwood Kac- M3000.4 I have 2 of the MTX 2300X in my closet.

@BStreet666 2 жыл бұрын

I'm probably alone on this but one of the most memorable amp tests I've seen on your channel was the Kenwood KAC-M3004. Considering its size and simplicity, it far exceeded what I thought was possible within its footprint. For us Hybrid vehicle drivers, it could easily power an entire system (components & sub) without breaking the bank or pulling too much current. Awesome video!

@seguetaspeed 2 жыл бұрын

Man, I appreciate your videos. I have not purchased an amp without checking to see if you've done a dyno test on it or not, if you have then I just pass and wait. Thanks for the work and time you put into these vids. :)

@roundtownjohn 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, as always Big D. I wish current draw and efficiency on these amps was available on this video. Love the content!!

@wal 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!

@seanallen1791 2 жыл бұрын

I have been bump in the slayer 3k since 3 days after your test. It convinced me to buy one and I run it about an hour and a half a day on a American bass XFL10 to see which would die first and still going strong. Happy with the purchase. Everyone is shocked its only 1 10.

@originalogbot 2 жыл бұрын

I searched amp test guy on KZfaq and you come up and your the guy I was looking for. Just like everyone here we appreciate your experience and knowledge of the technical side of the bass world

@1deadly187 2 жыл бұрын

Daaaaammnnn, that shit bumpin... ORION was always awesome back in the day and this shows why!!!! Awesome video BIG D....

@_BAD_MERC_ 2 жыл бұрын

I was an installer from 1994 to 2008. My first sound car was my 1988 Pontiac Bonneville with Alpine and Rockford all the way to my current 2004 Mercury Marauder with JL Audio and Eclipse. I remember the rule was usually "good amps are about $3 per watt". Almost every SPL car I built we tried to stay at 1000 watts and used cheater amps for the edge. These are INSANE!

@sirloin4372 2 жыл бұрын

Great video big D, I really think you’d be a cool Guy to hang out with and mess around with audio equipment in your lab. Thanks for taking the time to do this and educate some people on car audio.

@flaman78 2 жыл бұрын

You did an awesome job on that Slayer 3k vid.

@kriptic22 2 жыл бұрын

Always amazing content. Much respect BIG D!

@dtrain8335 2 жыл бұрын

We had a local shop that used to wire those old Rockford amps at 2 ohm's mono all day long. The sales rep told them it was fine go ahead and we'll still warranty them too. The 90's were great for car audio! 🤣👍

@Bassotronics 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video compilation! Great summary of favorite amplifiers.

@ericbachmann8037 2 жыл бұрын

I bought one of those Rockford Punch 200’s back in ‘94. Was my first Rockford Amp. Loved it!!

@christopherdickens6319 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing video! Thank you for putting this together!

@shanen921 2 жыл бұрын

Good memories thanks for the stroll back in time. I am surprised the test you did on the MTX Thunder 2300 didn't make the list. Anyway again great video .

@jarvislarson6864 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed if i remember it did like 950 @2 ohms cert & over 1k dynamic...i personally have 1 i want repaired

@littlejln213 2 жыл бұрын

It did 2200, I have 4 because of that video.

@littlejln213 2 жыл бұрын

I got 2 stroker 18ds that are freshly rebuilt with new old stock. I'm putting 1 2300 per coil.

@jarvislarson6864 2 жыл бұрын

@@littlejln213 i sense windows cracking and random bolts loosening in your vehicles future....it will b epic

@jackiebaer1654 4 ай бұрын

I run my Rockford PWR415 ventilated with the MTX2300, and it Rock's. With the same Amp i fired 6 10" DEI PRO. This amp is a killer. Greetings from Greece

@jdm5lughatch 2 жыл бұрын

I had a couple friends swear by the Rockford Punch amps back in the mid 90's. They would be so hot at times you literally couldn't touch them. They would almost never shut down either. Extremely impressive amps. The 90's had some of the best amps (products for that matter) and extremely high prices to boot.

@Kenmarshallintereststx 5 ай бұрын

I had several 90s models and even in high school I thought to myself this can't be good I can't even touch the thing it's so hot. Plus sitting in HS parking lot all day in Texas. No idea how that thing survived. Two jl w 3 12s now 22 years ago

@Richtaco 2 жыл бұрын

Omg 😳 now I know what am I’m getting next. Orion! I bought the jp23 because of your video. I’m very happy with it. It was the right price too. But Forsure now my next amp will be the Orion. Thank you for what you do.

@joeanderson444 2 жыл бұрын

And a big shoutout to the Orion XTR 2500.1 (rated 2500W @1 ohm @ 12.6v) that you did a .8 ohm burst test on that produced 7577W! That amp at the time was $375 to $400. They are strappable, so I presently own 2 of them and they became scarce for a bit of time last year, but are back on the market. It was that video that impressed me the most of them all and that is why I bought 2 in the matter of 6-8 months! You can still find them for $400 in some deep dark places on the net! LOL

@thepickle7757 2 жыл бұрын

The Down4Sound JP23 is my favorite newer amp. They in my eyes made the perfect everyday amplifier.

@zumazoomzoom7632 2 жыл бұрын

Always the go to spot for audio info!

@smalltimer4370 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely love these videos!!!

@michaelvickers89 2 жыл бұрын

When I saw that Orion power I almost fell out of my seat!!! 13k watts out of a 3k amp!!! 😵‍💫😵

@williamstarklauf6085 2 ай бұрын

A extra 10 k is crazy

@joshferguson829 Күн бұрын

But it's not a 3k amp that's a 5k board all day ..but still 13k is insane man 😆

@paulespino6462 2 жыл бұрын

That Halloween trailer! Like button smashed!

@ChrisDIYerOklahoma 2 жыл бұрын

Numbers don't lie! Thank you for doing what you do...one of the BEST KZfaq channels out there.

@wal 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother 😊

@kimmyn4608 2 жыл бұрын

i bought the orion after watching your video ,, and looking at the jp for another build. thank you .. what ya do its awsome

@JAM-ur8tj 2 жыл бұрын

Those were definitely some really cool suprises!

@mistersunny3636 5 ай бұрын

Still enjoy these trips to memory lane! THX a lot pal!

@jaymiller5443 2 жыл бұрын

Those Fosgate DSM amps never seem to disappoint either, I've still got a Fosgate 4080 DSM I'd love to see numbers on, it's no Orion but it's still a beast.

@jaymiller5443 2 жыл бұрын

@P C oh man threw away a perfectly good Amp for something so simple, sad to hear that cause those DSM amps are workhorses!

@justforlaughs8988 2 жыл бұрын

The Orion 3ks were my favorite and your the reason I baught a pair of them thank you for introducing me to the most amazing amps I've ever owned to date!!!

@BabyCharlotteschannel 2 жыл бұрын

Always wanted one of them, bit I'm still happy with the awesome XTR 2500 amp I bought after Big D's test of it! Ran it for hours and hours at .8 ohms for the last year on my 55 minute to 90 minute commute back and forth to and from the every single day!!

@2slofouru 2 жыл бұрын

Always great when they make more than spec, because you when you're making clean power the woofers will be well controlled and sound awesome.

@MoparStephen 2 жыл бұрын

MTX Thunder 2300 all the way! They meant 2 times 300 watts, not 2300 watts which you damn near got! Still rocking mine.

@dilbeckskate 2 жыл бұрын

Great video man good work

@wal 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother 🤙

@303nitzubishi4 2 жыл бұрын

Dam big D you been around so long you gots a "greatest hits" record going 😆 good choices for the list here thanks for doin what you do

@samueljackson2478 5 ай бұрын

Yes Big D you remember the Lanzer Opti 500X2 and 700X2 test still one of the best video.

@jmmcguinness 2 жыл бұрын

I love your content man. OG! Please keep it coming.

@Sky-wh1yd 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video Thanks Big D

@briankt69 2 жыл бұрын

I still love the vid on the 1994 mtx thunder 2300 from 7 years ago. Ur reactions were awesome and funny. Lol

@1ohmwrecker 2 жыл бұрын

Deff that bully Halloween intro was so good. One of your most memorable ones for me!

@gaziltapig Жыл бұрын

Orion and Rockford Fosgate were my favorites back in the day. The Orion was no joke, but it ran hot, and smelled like it was burnt since day 1.

@SD-oo4xq 2 жыл бұрын

Great video!!! I really liked the horror film intro for the slayer amp

@wal 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!

@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 2 жыл бұрын

And another wicked awesome video!

@huskylfp1505 2 жыл бұрын

Saludos al gran amigo Big D desde Colombia! 😎 Ningún canal pone a prueba los amplificadores que éste 👌🏻 Gracias por los "Where's the beef and You Big Dummy" 😂

@BStick3 2 жыл бұрын

Very good vid - thanks!

@drummerdoingstuff5020 2 жыл бұрын

Love the channel bro

@wal 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!

@gordiefrench5342 2 жыл бұрын

Hey big d Your channel is the best out there No bs just facts Thank you

@McTroyd 2 жыл бұрын

Loved the Slayer clip! Perhaps an idea for the next July 4 -- do a montage of explosions on the bench? I remember there were a few of them. 💥👍

@Walter11 2 жыл бұрын

Great video 👏🏻 thanks

@avenger429 2 жыл бұрын

Just when I had forgotten about Wudi... Obviously that Orion amp was the biggest shocker. Not sure about the longevity of them running low ohms like that, but super nice to have that available headroom for a daily driver that occasionally does SPL competition.

@randizzle7659 Жыл бұрын

The Black Diamomd and the Audio Control were my favorites. You helped me to buy right. But also loved the Orion test. Took me back to 1993 :-)

@Brian1. 2 жыл бұрын

Dope video Big D

@cfmechanic 2 жыл бұрын

Very cool. That Orion is the winner for sure.

@mr.a5147 2 жыл бұрын

Hi mate I love your videos, So keep up the good work! I'd love to know your thoughts on the SQ difference between D class and old AB amps. I don't know if it's just nostalgia, but I feel like the old AB power amps I had back in the day sounded a lot better than the new D class amps these days.

@vincentrusso4332 2 жыл бұрын

I gotta say that JP-23 is a game changer....fine job Dizzle.

@wal 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah boi

@bondalero0074 Жыл бұрын

I got the JP8 and a strappable slave amp with O.5 ohm capabilities with so many features; too many to list. I run my JP8 at 1 ohm on a Skar 10” SVR DVC2 and unbelievable outputs drawing much less voltage than my Skar RP800 I swapped it out for. Down4Sound and their JP lineup is the future!#🔊❤️@Down4Sound@Williston Audio Labs@Vincent Russo

@RJSDZNS 2 жыл бұрын

Ok now you gotta do the worst amps ever next! Love the video D!

@PrydeWater901 2 жыл бұрын

That Wall-0-Shame!!!

@gamerpaddy 2 жыл бұрын

for me it was the nad 2200 you tested years ago that suprised me the most, since the video i got two of them in bridge mono running in my home audio

@gkcaudiounlimited1699 2 жыл бұрын

I want one of those Orion amps. That’s awesome! And that Wudi amp is crazy!!

@wal 2 жыл бұрын

Every time I hear that name I think Rudy, Rudy, Rudy

@gkcaudiounlimited1699 2 жыл бұрын

@@wal YES!!

@beefysghost867 2 жыл бұрын

@@gkcaudiounlimited1699 took. me months to find a 3000.1dsplx

@Frances_P 2 жыл бұрын

@@beefysghost867 how much did you pay for it. I actually have an Orion3k that I'm thinking of selling but still debating

@willy3sticks647 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video!

@wal 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!

@20hztremor 2 жыл бұрын

The thunder 2300 was one of my faves. Not huge power as others, but rock solid

@xhuff317 2 жыл бұрын

Def was one of my favs as well. I still have the one I bought brand new around ‘97 along with 2x Thunder 280’s.

@projectoldschoolspl3563 2 жыл бұрын

I bought 5 because of that test

@20hztremor 2 жыл бұрын

Nice! I had 16, but 8 now. The one big D tested I got from him as well. I haven't decided on what to use them with yet.

@projectoldschoolspl3563 2 жыл бұрын

I think we are friend on fb

@ToolsOutsideTheBox 2 жыл бұрын

I just ordered the D4S JP8 two pack for my toaster and the D’Amore E750.1 for my Camry hybrid, thanks to this channel. Now I’m trying to decide between the 10” and 12” Kicker L7Ts 🤣

@RAW_Reality 2 жыл бұрын

10s if you want punchier/crisper sound, 12s if you want more boomy sound & vibration happening.

@FATHERSOFBASS 2 жыл бұрын

I was soooo shocked lol, that Orion wowzerrrrsssss

@edwinc.9968 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Big D, awesome video. Will you be doing a video for top 5 4channel or full range amps? Contemplating wether on purchasing down4sounds jp234 or taramp 800x4 to push 4 6x9's and 4 6.5 and 4 tweeters.

@msh6865 2 жыл бұрын

May not be amazing (in a good way) but, IMO the most important amp dyno you have ever done was the Orion HCCA 2100. The results of that test...and the subsequent retests, we're like a huge reality check for the whole old school car audio community. While the amp didn't make the ridiculously insane power we had long believed it could, the test did dispell a ton of urban myths and proved Orion engineers weren't playing games with the published numbers in the owners manual. Hard to overvalue the truth, even if it does bruise some egos. 👍

@feralmale1517 10 ай бұрын

I had a punch 45 back in the day, awesome amp.

@charlesbarr3561 2 жыл бұрын

This is a great channel, so much useful information. I just wish I had more money, for one of these good amps.

@BabyCharlotteschannel 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, took me a while to save up for the Orion xtr 2500 amp after watching Big D's test of it! But well worth the wait!

@bassmansl9596 2 жыл бұрын

Nicely done bro

@MrDopey32 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely love checking in with you on amps Big D. I've told soooooo many of my friends to always check your channel when looking to buy a new amp. Thank you for all the content you provide, it helps way more than most people think. I've been a bass head for almost 30 years and still have the thirst for it at 42 years old. Lol. I do have a question for you Big D, have you ever tested a hiphonics brutus BRZ1700.1D? I've searched everywhere and haven't been able to find anything. Could you please help me out on this? I currently have this amp pushing 2-12" d2 power acoustik mofo's. The amp says it will only run as low as 1ohm, but I have it running at half ohm. I've been running it this way since December and still going strong. I would just like to truly know how much power I'm actually getting. Thank you for all your help! Great content as always sir! Great list of amps!

@j.t.cooper2963 2 жыл бұрын

I was bumping Orion amps back in the mid 80's. People could not believe all of the bass was coming from my car. Ahhhh the memories.

@jeffperkins6514 4 ай бұрын

Man those damn Fosgate amps were awesome back in the 90's. I had several of the two channel punch amps that I ran bridged into 2 ohms and they never shut down. I'm currently using a Fosgate Power T500-1bdCP on my two Infinity Perfect 12's and it puts out some sweet, accurate lows.

@sounddoctoraloi7837 2 жыл бұрын

Yo Big D you should make more of these types of videos

@kilobishop8364 2 жыл бұрын

D wiz you've saved me a lot of cash and headaches bro your the man man 💪😎

@paulgood2218 2 жыл бұрын

Good video I forgot about the slayer and harmony

@hugosandvl8173 2 жыл бұрын

You do an awesome job for all of us helping to do the right choice before buy an amplifier or when we are looking for something in particular you give us many options to choose from.. you should do a dyno on the new toro tech mr3 micro amp 800w rms at 1 ohm i buy the mr2 500w rms at 1 ohm. because of you and I'll love it and I just bought the mr3 and it's incredible pushing 2 sakar evl 8"s 800rms each blew me away

@mrbrowz1000101 2 жыл бұрын

Man that black Orion XTR amp was my favorite. Crazy power!

@jacobbaker899 2 жыл бұрын

love your videos... just watched the Top 5 SHOCKING Amp Dyno Test... 1.21 gigga watts... back in time... que Huey Lewis

@wal 2 жыл бұрын

Back to the Future!

@TechGorilla1987 2 жыл бұрын

How is the McIntosh amp doing, BigD? I am SOOOO looking forward to the revisit of that one. It's my dream amp frankly.

@dustinerickson1253 2 жыл бұрын

that trailer was great! was that in the original video?! i missed that!

@herbb6813 2 жыл бұрын

Loved the Slayer bit!

@floydwilliams3321 2 жыл бұрын

That’s cool when you see something like a cheap I am do that kind of power usually when they’re cheap there is garbage thanks for the info

@edgarhoey8733 2 жыл бұрын

I really thought you would do that old school Mtx amp you did a while back that thing pumped out the watts

@soggyfries4347 2 жыл бұрын

You should do a Top 5 Shocking for Under $200 vid next. Nothing but useful info, as always. Thx Big D

@dirtysouthwookie5512 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video! -Zook

@thehifiwifiguy 2 жыл бұрын

Back around 1998, Eclipse had a huge 2-channel amp that I would love to see you test! I think it was the 34230. With a relatively stock electric system in my 96 Rodeo, this amp was absolutely slamming 6 10" aluminum Eclipse competition subs in individually sealed boxes.

@beefysghost867 2 жыл бұрын

Ugh dreams right there, eclipse is by far my favorite manufacturer. You can still get dvd decks in Japan made by them. Wish they still sold stuff here used to have a titanium 10 back in 05 favorite sub I’ve ever owned

@stevenyoung3360 2 жыл бұрын

Ya Eclipse made some very nice equipment.

@Fister_of_Muppets 2 жыл бұрын

Back in the day I bought one of the very first JL Audio Class D monoblocks, a 500x1. Certified bench was 926 and it peaked at 1728. Very clean sounding amp too... wish I still had it.

@wal 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome 👏

@2010HarleyDynaFXD 2 жыл бұрын

I bought the Audio Pipe 15001D because you dynoed it at 2810@.05 ohm for $150 bucks back in the day for my secondary amp just incase my Earthquake PHD2 blew it still works to this day not bad for a $150 dollar 1500 watt amplifier.

@breedam 2 жыл бұрын

God i love that orion… what an absolute unit of an amp.

@queracusrodgers3692 2 жыл бұрын

Surprised the Wolfram didn't make the list! That was a great video until the Orion went crazy!

@gdljr10k 2 жыл бұрын

For a “Shocking” video, I was ready to see the Pyramid amp. If I remember, it was rated 150 x 2 and did what, 50 x 2, if that. And you took the back off and we were all “Shocked” and laughed.