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Top 5 things I love about the 2020 Africa Twin | New Africa Twin Review
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@windinthewillows6248 4 жыл бұрын
I think your getting a bit muddled with you pricing TMF (it’s an age thing 😜🤣). The bike your riding is the CRF1100L Adventure Sport DCT ES and cost £17349 (without the centre stand). The CRF1100L Adventure Sport ES manual transmission cost £16049 (without the centre stand). Not quite the bargains you suggest me thinks. Can we assume your number one gripe in the next episode will be “the relatively high price” 😜😄
@SuperchargedLlama 4 жыл бұрын
I came here to say this too. It's definitely the ES and it's basically the same cost as the GS at that point...but the DCT box is lovely.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Yes sorry about that - I tried to correct it in the text but you're right the version with electronic suspension is more still...I'll pin your comment...
@SuperchargedLlama 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer this caught me out when I was day dream configuring the other day!
@redbandit4558 4 жыл бұрын
TMF ... would you buy a DCT bike over a manual transmission? When i ride , i like to change gears and i think that’s part of the thrill of riding , doing something with / for the bike and feel the life in the engine ... using a DCT takes that way does it not ? If so, what’s the value add of riding a bike that does seemingly everything almost by itself ?
@SuperchargedLlama 4 жыл бұрын
@@redbandit4558 hope you don't mind me answering a question that wasn't directed at me. You still can shift yourself and sometimes I did (I had a 2016 AT with the DCT), I didn't miss having to shift tbh, although that is personal opinion of course. You can always override it as well, even if it's in Drive or Sport mode, if you want a lower gear (and it always seemed to be that for me) you can just hit the shifter button. There's also a foot shifter accessory, at which point I think you've got the world's best quick shifter. It must be noted that the latter (as well as the blipper) only came in post 2018 (on the older model, but that bike has a lot of shortcomings that this new one genuinely does address).
@judeoko 4 жыл бұрын
Went to a talk by an old lad called Mr Coates's, he went to France for a month on his Africa twin, 14 years later he came back home having travelled the world. The bike he was on was an Africa twin, which he still has and he informed us it has 250 000 miles on the clock. What more can you say about any bike than that. VERY UNDERSTANDING WIFE.
@rogo23 4 жыл бұрын
watching this just as I’ve come back from passing my CBT!
@ianruck1908 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations man
@mattrowlands5751 4 жыл бұрын
I also passed my cock and ball torture a while ago
@RutgerSmets 4 жыл бұрын
It IS the best looking adventure bike ;). Thanks for the video Andy!
@bartjaspers240 4 жыл бұрын
Good too see you having fun on this bike. The odd looking roof above the touch screen provides great camera angle as well.. Great video, keep them coming! Kind regards from a 2020 ATAS ES manual owner.
@AudunWangen 4 жыл бұрын
I rented an Africa Twin last year, and I loved it. A bit heavy for off roading, I guess, but great on gravel roads an touring. The luggage solution for this bike is awesome, and very comfortable if you have a passenger.
@VRFlightSimGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews Andy, even though I'm not particularly interested in this style of bike (I'm an FJR man), I really enjoy your down to earth way of vlogging. Feels like I'm there with you just having a chat. Cheers!
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@paulcollins7185 4 жыл бұрын
You're right! The camera on the front was quite stable.....if I hadn't got the BMW R1250GS Rallye TE, and this 2020 AT ES (Manual one) was out, at the same time, I would have had it I think. I am, in my history far more a Honda fan boy than BMW and I had the AT 2017 version. Since this version has been out, I have always been very interested in it and you're right, the engine has a very nice sound indeed. I do really like my BM, even though I have never been an owner of BM before now, ridden a lot of them. I've mostly been a Honda fan boy in my 47 years of riding though and I still love Honda's. Good review and it still makes me very interested in this version, not DCT though, I've had that and not so keen on it, but it's not a deal breaker and you're right about leaving DCT in sport mode. It does look lovely, I think it is better looking than the BM. That 1250 motor though.....And I know you know all about that engine, it's bloody good. Good review Flyer.
@jeremyrigden9200 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this, i'm an Amersham lad so know all your roads, you even went past my M and Ds old house 11.21. in my late sixties now, but had some great times on old Triumphs ect, thanks for the memories, keep up the great reviews,. Regards Jerry
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Jerry - glad you find my videos of interest!
@debenhamdave4314 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping the videos coming, so enjoying regurarily riding bikes again. Cheers TMF
@ronboe6325 4 жыл бұрын
Who ever does the red white & blue paint schemes at Honda is just brilliant. Witchcraft even. They do a wonderful job. ADV bikes are the SUV's of the motorcycle world aren't they? I probably should get an AT but right now I have three bikes and no payments which is a really good place to be in. :D Like you I tend to vacillate between something like the Royal Enfield Interceptor (simple) to a kitted out AT. I should keep what I have an avoid the whole philosophical mess. Nice job.
@davidclifton5386 4 жыл бұрын
Just what you need on an overcast day ,dark visor and sun glasses.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
It's just what I need - I have very sensitive eyes....
@stevebolton8471 4 жыл бұрын
He normally sleeps in a ⚰️ in the day time ... 😀
@alanhenderson3417 4 жыл бұрын
All we know is .....he's called "The Stig".......
@davidclifton5386 4 жыл бұрын
Try telling that to the police if they stop youTheMissendenFlyer p
@plympytheplumber4605 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my 2017 DCT AT, its a phenomenal machine
@libman2006 4 жыл бұрын
Done about 6 hours riding today, up into the Peak District and down into Derbyshire and some how managed to avoid the rain. Now watching this and I'm thinking about when I'll be able to get out again.
@goldenchild4835 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again, Andy. As bleak as it is it's always great to see a bit of the English countryside. Sidebar, I'm probably shunting coal-to-Newcastle, but the GoPro 8 has great built-in digitial steady-cam. Used it skiing in Japan in Feb and it's almost drone steady. Also, I can recommend the "Zoom H4 pro" digital sound recorder. I think they're probably a couple of hundred quid in your neck of the woods but it has unbeatable sound quality and is very portable.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips (I already have a GoPro8 by the way)
@toniraff5488 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone seeing an Optimus Prime kind thing going on with new adventure sports colour scheme? Love the looks the sound and quality promise of the new Honda Africa twin
@staudio 4 жыл бұрын
I have been very happy with my 2017 KTM 1290 SA-T, but if something were to happen to it and I needed a replacement I think I would have to give the African Twin a look. As well as the GS....so many great bikes out there so little time (and money). Nice review, at first I didn't think I would consider the DCT but now warming up to the idea......stay safe.
@PCERules 4 жыл бұрын
Adjustable seat... amazing how few road bikes don’t have them and the last bike to have adjustable pegs was my GSXR750... manufacturers must realise we’re all different!
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@martindavies8326 4 жыл бұрын
I wish all motorcycle Manufacturers would offer different seat heights, as I’m a 29” inside leg, and I do like to be flat footed when I stop. Cheers Andy good review as always.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Martin and I agree - nice touch from Honda making this big bike so much more accessible in this incarnation...
@davidbesant 4 жыл бұрын
You can buy various seat height options from suzuki for the Vstrom. Probably an option on most adventure bikes if you ask.
@travelinben1966 4 жыл бұрын
If the AT were shaft drive,I’d be swayed. Looking towards the Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 instead.As always, thank you for the very informative video TMF.👍
@scaff3450 4 жыл бұрын
Good Review Looking forward to the next one
@bieffess 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. You often mention your 5'8" height when referring to a bike's seat height and ability to get your feet on the ground but it would be much more informative and helpful if you mentioned your inside leg measurement. All the best.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@HD2O13XL12OOC 4 жыл бұрын
My inseam is 29 inches many adv bikes seem too tall for me.
@gavinj7807 4 жыл бұрын
@@HD2O13XL12OOC Same as mine but I have a 2019 Tiger 800 XRX and on the lower seat height (810mm) can get both feet flat on the ground
@PragmaticTornado 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 2018 Africa Twin Adventure Sports. Loved some things about it, like the sound, look and that legendary Honda reliability. But engine wise, it bored me to death. So I traded it in for a 2020 KTM 1290 Super Adventure R. Suffice to say, I'm now happy with the engine performance. I don't feel as safe about the reliability, but I absolutely love the bike. Power wheelies in the first 3 gears is always a riot. My point is - I would have upgraded to a 2020 Honda Africa Twin instead - if the engine had been as exciting as the one on the KTM.
@dpbCanal 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 standard at with dct and the thing I love the most is the auto blipper when u go down 2 gears it's just a fantastic sound.
@simonrobinson7536 4 жыл бұрын
It is probably a fantastic bike, but for me I can’t get over the look of the massive front wheel, each to there own. Good video none the less 👍
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@garethgibafricatwin6663 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 2019 Adventure Sports and I love it, would love to jump on that!
@greenlightning6971 4 жыл бұрын
There's something about Africa Twin, beyond bike itself. Btw,that windscreen omg looks like HUD in F-35 ,I think that Honda will relocate all infos from TFT up there just for the ease of use 😅
@Banditmanuk 4 жыл бұрын
The comprehensive electronics, they look attractive on a new bike if you can afford it. I do wonder how attractive to own these bikes will be in 10 years? Probably not so easy for your home mechanic. Perhaps it's just my 'older person's view but I would prefer to keep it cheaper, simple and hopefully long term reliable.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% with you on that.....
@stevebolton8471 4 жыл бұрын
Older Africa Twins are available! I agree though! There are many NC750X DCT’s with high mileage and no problems though. According to the uk nc forum.
@AlexandreSantos-mn4sk 4 жыл бұрын
Keep the good quality videos :) i own a crf1100 and the negative i most notice it´s on the highway above 140km/h (90mph) maybe because the offroadish tyres. The big screen its wonderfull if you have an Iphone but then i found another negative and its the little screen, it have space to fit a gasoline gauge so you dont need to keep changing the top screen just to check fuel.
@exeterrider 4 жыл бұрын
Good vid, I'm also intrested in if it's a GS converter. I can see they both have a pros and cons, but the twin just seems a bit more nicer to own and to look at, slimmer, sexyer (or whatever lol) less lumpy but yes the gs gives you the armchair feel on big journeys, and I agree with the TFT screen, it's nice and it's all there but typically a bit too much like all those controls on the left side. It's handy watching your vid knowing I felt the same way about it. You know what it's like when you feel you may have missed something but unlike you I don't really have many people to bounce off (very lonely 😭) 😂😂 good video, and am intrested in the gs converter video. My guess is its still GS for you and that's fair enough, I reckon I would go AT and I like dct too. If you get the chance to do light of road then it's superb, and the dct let's you concentrate on the more important things. Front end is a bit of a case of "what's going on down there" but at the same time you it's doing its job well and looking after you. I thought base price was 13ish. Anyway could go on all day. Thanks👍🍻
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned - more on GS v AT next video!
@stevebolton8471 4 жыл бұрын
Yes the base model is more off road biased with less wind protection but has all the electronics including cruise. It’s a very nice bike.
@Igor12822 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer yes please
@Igor12822 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevebolton8471 base model does not have el.suspension, tubeless tyres, cruise control....or does it? Plus more wind protection and larger tank, I go for adv...
@kevint3845 4 жыл бұрын
Nice bike, never had one but was looking at them yesterday, may take a closer look
@derekholme6922 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice looking machine but on my second BMW GS, Exclusive R1250 and I prefer the GS, just had a great ride out today and it gets better by the mile, the 1250 engine is a beauty, no need to visit Hilltop or have aftermarket exhaust, sounds sweet especially using the quick shifter which has taken a while to get to grips with, ride safe and enjoy.
@raycollington4310 4 жыл бұрын
Wether you're pro or anti DCT, Honda have produced a great transmission option. A great young man's competitor for the old fat man's GS. The tele-lever, boxer and shaft does still have some appeal. Residual value of GS might be something to consider. Thanks TMF.
@GadgetMart 4 жыл бұрын
I ride a BMW R850R and a R1150GS, I get bikers giving me the nod on the 850 with it almost ‘standard’ looks and round headlight. I find I get ignored on the GS mostly, which is pathetic seeing I’m riding a 20 year old machine that I maintain myself.
@johnhartley964 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant vid - Brilliant channel
@Gofr5 4 жыл бұрын
Been looking for some riding jeans lately, may take a look at these. The price on them definitely seems right for what they are offering. Even with shipping to Canada, it's still a decent deal. Thanks.
@MrTacklebury 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love the Africa Twin DCT, alas it's a bit out of my reach if I want to stay married. One thing I hadn't heard you say if it had was cruise control. If I switch to another bike from my Himalayan, that's one thing I will insist on next time. I do have a tentacle out trying to check out a Honda NC750X DCT because the DCT really has me intrigued. I have nerve damage in my left foot and I can only deal with shifting so much. I think it'd be a great thing to have. Thanks for the review!
@paintup46 4 жыл бұрын
Both versions of the 2020 Africa Twin come with cruise control as standard!
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Scott - and yes, it has cruise control.....
@stevebolton8471 4 жыл бұрын
The NC750X is a great bike. I own one. Might be a nicer Euro 5 mid range Africa Twin based on it for 2021 according to the rumours with a slightly larger engine. Hopefully a nice TFT and some electronics too with a more comfortable seat so hang on for the winter announcements. Or look into second hand NC to save the cash! They go on forever...
@cliveomahoney4096 4 жыл бұрын
I saw your vid with Itchy Boots and then watched the whole of her series 2, in South America. I was thinking, more or less throughout, that she would have had major problems with any of these high tech, premium priced, heavy, petrol guzzling machines. In fact, at certain times, she would have been in real difficulty (she would have coped). You can buy a sports tourer and an Enfield Himalayan new for less money than one of these flagship bikes and have far more versatility. No one in their right mind would take a GS or an Africa Twin off road on their own (apart from a little gravel track to get to the pub (I wish). If either was dropped, no one apart from.......Geoff Capes (!?) could pick it up and it would cost too much money to repair. They're fashion bling and not worth the expense or reliability issues with the ridiculous electronics panoply that no one would regularly use in any case. .
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree with the point you’re making - but big adventure bikes make great touring machines too and allow you to buy into the rugged vibe....
@SewGurl58 4 жыл бұрын
Check out Nora ADV she did two extensive trips on a Suzuki 650 V-Strom. And Kinga “on her bike” is on a BMW F850 GS. She’s been everywhere. Including wrecking her first bike in a head on.
@GavCritchley 4 жыл бұрын
I love Honda and I'm sure they're super reliable, but it'd be when something does wrong in the back of beyond, you'll have more chance of getting a non electronic bike going than something dripping with tech. I guess you'd head over to Yamaha and get a new Tenere if you want the latter. As always, great vid TMF.
@robfearonphotographyhillwa9583 3 жыл бұрын
Best looking Adventure Bike, Thanks for the review :-)
@TheMissendenFlyer 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@Tomahawkfalcone 4 жыл бұрын
Love the africa twin, nearly bought the 2019 but was a little to high and no cruise control, seems they got the new one spot on and the new black colour is great, until you get to the price. Overpriced getting into gs territory. Ill keep the v85
@ironmanmichael 4 жыл бұрын
Bought the jeans. Looking forward to not looking like an alien around the shops (whenever I feel brave enough to go - feels more dangerous than biking at the moment!)
@matthewelsey1782 4 жыл бұрын
Looks a lovely bit of kit but my next bike will be a G.S
@TheDuck9812 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review - I do like that manufacturers are now allowing for us shorties to ride adventure bikes comfortably! There's rumours floating around suggesting that honda may be doing an 850 AT too, I hope they are right...
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed!
@MrChrisWorkman 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I rode the previous version and didn't purchase because of not being able to even two feet down tippy toes. Glad to see it's now more friendly to uk shorties ha ha.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Yes that issue is now sorted!
@CharlieDeltaEchoVict 4 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks TMF! But oh my goodness that price! £15K, thats crazy expensive to me.
@GadgetMart 4 жыл бұрын
I ride a German twin but African twins matter too
@Xiao_PP 4 жыл бұрын
All twins matter
@GadgetMart 4 жыл бұрын
Chris Hansen 👍
@Igor12822 4 жыл бұрын
Same here mate. Have chosen Beemer and love it but Africa is my second choice
@fertiglustig6122 4 жыл бұрын
German twin have to go to see the doctor every year or only 10.000 km Japan twin only after 12.000 km no need to see the doctor every year. Save the doctor bill and enjoy holiday. No need to worry about doctor appointment to 😂
@Igor12822 4 жыл бұрын
@@fertiglustig6122 not really a deal breaker....
@20spag 4 жыл бұрын
You mention the hard seat. Try an Air Hawk attachment. Inflate it just a tad. No more pain in the bum!!
@rickseibel5904 3 жыл бұрын
I found the same on my Africa Twin. Funny how just a little, and I mean a little air is needed to make for a comfortable ride. A plus for those real long stints is the ability to stand up and give my 74 year old tush a breather.
@TechMindsOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, one of my subscribers mentioned I should check your channel out as apparently we live in the same village :) Great content sir! 👌
@brucekendall52 4 жыл бұрын
Where the new GS wins everytime:-Shaft drive,easy to remove rear wheel,easy to clean air filter,easy to check valve clearances.What i miss is the DCT of the Honda.Cheers.
@fasteddy3661 4 жыл бұрын
I really don’t get this adoration of the GS by the public and the press. I had 27 bikes in the last 7 years and I now still have 9. The bike that I liked the least was the GS. Yes, it is a practical bike like you mention. But what a boring bike. And also with a lot of flaws. It is quite expensive, but the reliability is about 4 times worse than that of a Japanese bike and even worse than Triumph and Ducati. I had a 2016 1200GS triple black edition. The standard seat was horrible. I exchanged it for the Rallye seat, which was a bit narrow but a lot more comfortable (that said, the standard seat on the 1150 GSA is the best seat I ever had). The sound of the exhaust is a drone that I found nerve wracking. Exchanging it for an Akrapovic only made it worse. Above 4,000 revs the sound from the engine is horrible, like a box of steel balls clattering below you. Compare that with my Ducati Multistrada 950, which starts singing at higher revs. The windscreen was giving a lot of buffeting, but was too weak to hold a deflector on top, so I had to buy a windscreen re-inforcement from the USA. The dials were unreadable because of a combination of reflecting glass and greyish lettering. I always checked the speed on the navigation unit (the dials on the 1150 GSA were perfect btw). My hands got numb because of the vibration in the hand grips. I installed extra heavy bar end weights, a handlebar cross member and grip puppies to no avail. Probably as a concession to off-road riding the shift lever and brake lever are placed more inward than would be comfortable, so I installed extensions for both. The electronic suspension is unreliable. Even at lower mileages it can break down leaving you without damping or with 100% damping. Just ask TMF. Either way you can call a tow truck when you are far away from home. Replacement costs 2,500 Euros. I really tried to like the bike and I am not a BMW hater. I have a 1956 R50 and a 2002 R1200C which are among my favourite bikes. You are right about the DCT. I have it on my NC750X and CrossTourer and it works flawlessly.
@GadgetMart 4 жыл бұрын
Fast Eddy glad I still have a R1150 then
@willwye410 4 жыл бұрын
BMW shaft drive has its problems. Big safety recall announced today for 7 models due to the paralever pivot breaking!
@johnhartley964 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid - Great channel
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@manologocho 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review and very much info on it amd the views love it ride on that african mi pana, but has to tell you something don't like the camera on the front mirror whatsoever great to hear and listen that pippe.
@thinkingoutofthebox.9421 4 жыл бұрын
'Back Country Navigator' app, ordinance Survey maps of the whole country, makes finding green lanes easy.
@andyjackson5 4 жыл бұрын
this would come in handy as he said he was in the south east of england 😂
@offthebeatenpath9144 4 жыл бұрын
Love my '16 AT but would still hesitate to go up the the AS version due to the amount of remote, off road that I ride and all the electronics. Did 8k kms last year off road and would have the electronics get "confused" at times. Like the electronics I have but would not want more. Honda will do well with the AS version with the road riders.
@UrgetoRide 4 жыл бұрын
Good review, thanks TMF. Do people even buy these DCTs though? I really doubt it otherwise BMW would've brought out an automatic GS stat .. So begs the question of why this big ol scooter even exists when you can buy the manual one and be part of the experience
@Banditmanuk 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the first DTC owner to tell you how good DTC is 😉
@mickthemaverick5998 4 жыл бұрын
It exists to let those of us riders with a damaged left ankle still be able to ride!!
@UrgetoRide 4 жыл бұрын
@@Banditmanuk 🤣
@UrgetoRide 4 жыл бұрын
@@mickthemaverick5998 You know what I stand corrected, thats not a bad use case. Very specific and niche but whatever keeps riders riding ! 👍
@exeterrider 4 жыл бұрын
And here's the first one😂DCT dosent run like a cvt belt drive scooter. I too used to want to be part of the changing gear involvement of a bike but I like dct alot. I still like manual but alot to be said for dct. You still feel part of the experience with DCT. Do you still kick start bikes, turn the fuel in the on postion? How about Abs? It's just another string. Some like it some don't, fair enough but it's not scooter like. If it was I wouldn't own one.🍻😉
@sweetcostarica 4 жыл бұрын
No.1 *Thing I like about the Honda* Here is the biggest _problem_ (involving time & money) between the two bikes (BMW & Honda) that _everyone_ _knows_ but don't talk about is, *_reliability._* The *BMW R1250GSA* has one of the worst reliability records (see CR article and talk to BMW owners) and the *Honda CRF1100L Africa Twin* (Adventure Sports version or any Honda) has the best reliability record. NOTE: Most *BMWs* are sold right at three (3) years due to the warranty running out and no free expensive fixes after that so BMW owners sale their three (3) year old bike & get a new one. Most *Honda* owners after the 600 mile maintenance checks just ride & ride & change the oil every now & then.
@posapie 4 жыл бұрын
Honda should bring out the Africa Twin in a mid size version. Will be flying out of the shops...
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
I agree - and I think they will be doing that very soon.....
@yellowbird8690 4 жыл бұрын
For a better explanation of the DCT gear box take a look at the video "Has Koenigsegg Made The World's Fastest Shifting Transmission?" by Engineering Explained, (Skip to 5:37). The clutches in DCT does the gear changing directly inside the box , where the standard clutch just disengages the whole box to allow the gears to shift.
@fallofmanbrand 4 жыл бұрын
cool video it was really entertaining
@chrisi970 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, I am looking forward to the sexy negatives
@banjopluker8254 4 жыл бұрын
From other reports the DCT is terrible off road. Dangerous at times from what I have seen. Great review. I would think the gs is a better deal just for the non DCT!!!
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Honda do make a non DCT version of course...
@banjopluker8254 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer sorry I should have stated I an from Australia and Honda for what ever reason don't bring the non DCT electronic suspension model to Australia. I have learnt a lot from your videos. Very informative and unbiased information for me to choose my first adventure bike. Thank you very much!!!
@Pillokun 4 жыл бұрын
I am around the same height as TMF but the adventure bikes are so huge and so heavy. No way I would even consider myself riding such a monster of a bike. The old Africa Twin looked big but it wasnt. Was such a pleasure to ride, felt like a boat :D Nothing to do with the AFT but was in a bike store today... my Jaw dropped. they wanted ~20K€ for an f3 800 and 19K€ for the f3 675... the new cbr1000rrr was 25K€ wtf is happening. f3 was a direct competitor to the d675 which was at most 13K€.... crazy...
@tonytrevino3204 4 жыл бұрын
keep them coming
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Will do Tony...
@lord.onk99 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that short spin out. Lovely bike, love the auto, but too dear for me.
@freedomisntfree131 Жыл бұрын
The 2 things that the BMW has over the Honda is the single swing arm for changing the rear tire and the HP. Other than that, I'd rather have the Honda.
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
Fair enough.
@freedomisntfree131 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer I really appreciate your videos.
@bradleyalexander5821 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive bike for sure. Can always rely on a fair review from TMF. 👍🏼 😎 🌎
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you...
@shakthiadityam6128 4 жыл бұрын
1st one to watch and like and comment
@stevenkelby2169 4 жыл бұрын
Why are you so proud to come first?
@82phalanX 4 жыл бұрын
The Laden down 'ere might've beaten us to it 😁
@grayjohn1906 4 жыл бұрын
Exciting 😅
@handsfree1000 4 жыл бұрын
If new bikes rely on credit, who feels confident enough to buy one. New bike sales are going to be thin on the ground methinks.
@Certago 4 жыл бұрын
Very lovely bike, I've tried the previous version with DCT and while a bit lumpy at low speeds it was enjoyable to ride. With the trailer screen I get savage buffeting but on the low screen its fine. I prefer the non DCT version though as revving out the engine a bit is part of the fun for me but using it for commuting would be excellent (if we ever have to commute again that is...). Ultimately I went for the big versys because it was more affordable in used condition (got the full GT version) and is just as enjoyable to ride.
@stevebolton8471 4 жыл бұрын
DCT does not stop you revving out the engine if that’s your thing. Sport 3 or overriding gear with paddles or manual mode will all do that.
@Certago 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevebolton8471 good point, I did not test that properly in my 1 hour test ride.
@stevebolton8471 4 жыл бұрын
@@Certago Basically I keep my NC750X in D for fuel economy and either snap the throttle open for overtakes, or with a shorter distance punch it down 2 gears, which it will hold for a few seconds while you wait for a gap. Snapping the throttle open also changes down 2 gears automatically on the NC - not sure on the AT, it has more grunt than the NC.
@tsav6952 4 жыл бұрын
The engine does sound nice.
@teneretraveller8980 4 жыл бұрын
Without doubt the best looking big travel bike. A d I say that as the previous owner of a original. But the best thing is the height change. Same height as you and 12st dripping wet, noway could I ride the previous incarnation confidently off road and definitely not with a pillion. To the best of my knowledge the Japanese are not the tallest race on the planet, and yet the big travel bikes need you to be around 6ft. Well done Honda. Happy travels
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Yes great move by Honda making this more accessible to us short wimpy types...
@SBKPete 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised there was no mention of the fact that its got Apple Car Play. That’s a big plus for me 😉
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
I mentioned it in my previous video on this bike - did you see that one?
@ssmith954 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer But no Android Auto... the omission of that and choice of going Apple-only would rule it out for me on principle alone.
@vishwav20 4 жыл бұрын
TMF, quickly now, this and Tiger Rally pro 900, which would you have in your garage in a hearrtbeat?
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
I've not ridden the Rally Pro yet - I have loads of videos coming up on the Tiger 900 GT though...and I'd rather have that than the AT personally......next video explains what I don't like about the AT...
@szaesz8190 4 жыл бұрын
Well done review Mr Flyer, as allways. If it is as unreliable as the previous gen, I wouldn't touch it with a stick, left me with a bitter taste in my mouth, will never buy another Honda ever again. P.s.: Honda Blackpool Supercenter Uk customer service is a JOKE!
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Oh dear, sorry to hear you had bad service....hate it when that happens...
@stevebolton8471 4 жыл бұрын
What happened?
@deanchild9848 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a very nice bike..
@Zippy0George0Bungle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the useful video. Can I ask, are there any power sockets or USB connections anywhere on the bike as standard?
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there must be!
@markvaughn8096 2 жыл бұрын
TMF, You mentioned your 5' 8" and can flat foot the 2020 when stopped with the regular seat set in the LOW portion... By chance do you know what your inseam is? I'm also 5' 8" and the AT seat height is an important consideration... Cant wait to test ride one next spring..
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 32” leg if that helps?? The AT is a tall bike….
@hakikatsinghgrewal2892 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!! When should we expect a Tiger 900 review?
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Coming later this month - once all the AT videos are up, then it’s Tiger time....
@hakikatsinghgrewal2892 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer looking forward to them
@davidhyde2267 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer be great to hear your comparisons on those two.
@palantir135 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting bike. I don’t know the price but if it’s more than £12000 than the Suzuki V-strom 1050 is more interesting. If the price is near of the Kawasaki Versys 1000SE then that one probably is more interesting than this one. If you don’t go off-road that is. If you want to go off-roading then this one is the choice but don’t forget to look at the KTM (900)? If you want/need an automatic gearbox then this is the only choice.
@IanTed 4 жыл бұрын
Need my R1250 Exclusive with the Honda DCT gearbox😆, through saying that now at 6000 miles + it’s much smoother....I prefer the Twin in black, too many colours for me.
@jj_infotainment 4 жыл бұрын
Honda Africa twin costs 18,500£ on road Multistrada 1260S costs 20,000£ on road in India... Which one do you suggest in terms of pricing!?!
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer the Multistrada....
@GlebLapham 4 жыл бұрын
Your audio sounds really good from that GoPro 4? Do you have a mic inside the helmet or is it just the camera mic?
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
No there is a mic inside the helmet 🤓
@dscc 4 жыл бұрын
The TFT / Console looks to be rather tall, almost in your line-of-sight. Although, your helmet camera is mounted several inches below eye-level which might make the console seem higher than it actually is. Did you feel the visibility was OK?
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
No - I don’t like looking through the screen....
@mickthemaverick5998 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video with great content. Hero 8 picture a little dark compared to the 4, maybe a bit of aperture/white balance adjustment needed? Still don't like the gold bars though!
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@skyworks1621 4 жыл бұрын
First thing that comes to my mind is a small negative, looking trough screen not over it. On my 2019 Vstrom XT I look over it and dont have any wind buffeting.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm not keen on that I must say....
@skyworks1621 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer since screens are offten dirty the view can be less picture perfect.
@mogumede8211 4 жыл бұрын
3:37 "Some people say it's the best looking adventure bike, ..." and the rest of them are wrong. Finished the sentence properly for you.
@tonygreene81able 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I'm in love or absolutely hate it. I never liked touring bike adventure sport type bikes. That said I kinda want one
@lewisbrooke393 4 жыл бұрын
This may come up in the next vid, why have they left the tiny old screen (different info?)- looks odd next to the large updated screen.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Because if you use the large screen for Apple Car Play you lose everyday functionality...
@nickpaull2362 4 жыл бұрын
If you had to replace your GS would this be the one? If not, what would be?
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Answer in the next video on this bike!
@Igor12822 4 жыл бұрын
Your honest opinion, F850GS Adventure Rallye with all whistles and bells, or Africa adv? I was thinking loooong time, love both, but have chosen BMW.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Close but probably AT - I found the F850GS just way too too heavy....
@yakekaj 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, would you say the Africa Twin is more in the same class as the V-Strom than the GS, Super Duke GT, S1000XR? If so how do they compare?
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
I would personally put it in the same category as the GS......
@RedlineRossi 4 жыл бұрын
Hey TMF, any idea when the tiger 900 vids are coming? How does it compare to this? Cheers 👍
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Very soon - later this month - stay tuned!
@ubermains 4 жыл бұрын
Had the Africa Twin AS DCT Electronic Suspension out for a spin last friday with all intention to hate it (Been riding GS's for 8-10 years or so with a break on a Multistrada 1200), but I just can't hate it. Infact I loved the DCT. Do a fair bit of citycommuting, and it sure offloads my clutchhand. Ride a 2018 GS with all the addons at the moment, but I'm actually thinking about switching.Only concern is the front/windblast. 6'5" and the stock screen is simply not tall/wide enough. But aftermarket usually solves that. I have spend TONS of money on screens the last 15+ years, and only on the Multistrada I never got it right (4 screens tested). Any tall riders out there with suggestions of a screen? *ponder* *ponder* swap gs *ponder*
@domster200 4 жыл бұрын
Use a cardboard template to get the size before buying.
@JohnCarr43 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there, what microphone / connection are you using with you Hero 4? Regards, John.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Just an eBay special....
@SewGurl58 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have a connection for a Kawasaki? I’d love to hear your impressions on the Concours C14 ABS. Or have you done a video on it? I have to chuckle a bit at most of the reviews. They all exclaim whoa this is a massive bike, got lots of speed. My friend and I love ours and do tend to stretch it’s legs a bit, but it just does it so easily. Even fully loaded on a road trip. Anyway, would love to hear your take on it.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly Kawasaki UK don’t talk to me, but I’ll try and befriend a Kwak dealer.....
@SewGurl58 4 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer I did notice that it looks like 2018 was the last euro model produced. Roadcraft Nottingham did a ride on one but he had purchased it. It was British racing green, not a US market color.
@crispernator 4 жыл бұрын
Gday mate the seat height must be pretty good , i have an 500x 2015 and im 5'6 and i am still not able to get my feet flat on the ground a slight lean and it is ok but still a bit disconcerting ,used to own a xr 250r seat height on that was terrible could only ever get one foot on the ground . It will be interesting to see how all these auto trans go when they have problems ,ive never had a bike with it and probably never will ill stick with simple i think take care .
@davidbesant 4 жыл бұрын
I've had two cars with DCT, and both were totally reliable. Having said that, I don't want it on my bike. I just love playing tunes with the gearbox.
@dungbeetlemovies 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like you may have to look through the screen. Or is it adjustable enough to look over it?
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
No I had to look through it (although it is adjustable)....
@ashcunningham449 4 жыл бұрын
How do you stop the wind noise on your GoPro? I have a GoPro Hero8 and the wind noise is terrible, even with the wind setting set to on.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
In the helmet you mean? Obviously I use an external mic....
@ashcunningham449 4 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer for the GoPro’s you have mounted on your bike and outside of helmet. Or is the sound on you videos just from the external mic inside your helmet?
@gavinfraser7784 4 жыл бұрын
What would you choose between the Africa Twin and the Tiger 900. GT or Rally????
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer the Tiger 900 (reviews on that coming soon!) - stay tuned....
@chvcky1 4 жыл бұрын
What jacket are you wearing please ? :)
@SanandanDA 4 жыл бұрын
I'm confused between this and the Kawasaki Versys 1000, here in India we only get the adventure sports Africa Twin, I don't have any off-road intentions, comfort is a priority, Which one should I get? Also, the Versys is about £5000 cheaper or it's equivalent? Help me out please as I like both the bike. Cheers.
@TheMissendenFlyer 4 жыл бұрын
Versys.....
@lynsmith1096 4 жыл бұрын
Another good video TMF