I think your getting a bit muddled with you pricing TMF (it’s an age thing 😜🤣). The bike your riding is the CRF1100L Adventure Sport DCT ES and cost £17349 (without the centre stand). The CRF1100L Adventure Sport ES manual transmission cost £16049 (without the centre stand). Not quite the bargains you suggest me thinks. Can we assume your number one gripe in the next episode will be “the relatively high price” 😜😄
@SuperchargedLlama4 жыл бұрын
I came here to say this too. It's definitely the ES and it's basically the same cost as the GS at that point...but the DCT box is lovely.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Yes sorry about that - I tried to correct it in the text but you're right the version with electronic suspension is more still...I'll pin your comment...
@SuperchargedLlama4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer this caught me out when I was day dream configuring the other day!
@redbandit45584 жыл бұрын
TMF ... would you buy a DCT bike over a manual transmission? When i ride , i like to change gears and i think that’s part of the thrill of riding , doing something with / for the bike and feel the life in the engine ... using a DCT takes that way does it not ? If so, what’s the value add of riding a bike that does seemingly everything almost by itself ?
@SuperchargedLlama4 жыл бұрын
@@redbandit4558 hope you don't mind me answering a question that wasn't directed at me. You still can shift yourself and sometimes I did (I had a 2016 AT with the DCT), I didn't miss having to shift tbh, although that is personal opinion of course. You can always override it as well, even if it's in Drive or Sport mode, if you want a lower gear (and it always seemed to be that for me) you can just hit the shifter button. There's also a foot shifter accessory, at which point I think you've got the world's best quick shifter. It must be noted that the latter (as well as the blipper) only came in post 2018 (on the older model, but that bike has a lot of shortcomings that this new one genuinely does address).
@judeoko4 жыл бұрын
Went to a talk by an old lad called Mr Coates's, he went to France for a month on his Africa twin, 14 years later he came back home having travelled the world. The bike he was on was an Africa twin, which he still has and he informed us it has 250 000 miles on the clock. What more can you say about any bike than that. VERY UNDERSTANDING WIFE.
@rogo234 жыл бұрын
watching this just as I’ve come back from passing my CBT!
@ianruck19084 жыл бұрын
Congratulations man
@mattrowlands57514 жыл бұрын
I also passed my cock and ball torture a while ago
@RutgerSmets4 жыл бұрын
It IS the best looking adventure bike ;). Thanks for the video Andy!
@bartjaspers2404 жыл бұрын
Good too see you having fun on this bike. The odd looking roof above the touch screen provides great camera angle as well.. Great video, keep them coming! Kind regards from a 2020 ATAS ES manual owner.
@AudunWangen4 жыл бұрын
I rented an Africa Twin last year, and I loved it. A bit heavy for off roading, I guess, but great on gravel roads an touring. The luggage solution for this bike is awesome, and very comfortable if you have a passenger.
@VRFlightSimGuy4 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews Andy, even though I'm not particularly interested in this style of bike (I'm an FJR man), I really enjoy your down to earth way of vlogging. Feels like I'm there with you just having a chat. Cheers!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@paulcollins71854 жыл бұрын
You're right! The camera on the front was quite stable.....if I hadn't got the BMW R1250GS Rallye TE, and this 2020 AT ES (Manual one) was out, at the same time, I would have had it I think. I am, in my history far more a Honda fan boy than BMW and I had the AT 2017 version. Since this version has been out, I have always been very interested in it and you're right, the engine has a very nice sound indeed. I do really like my BM, even though I have never been an owner of BM before now, ridden a lot of them. I've mostly been a Honda fan boy in my 47 years of riding though and I still love Honda's. Good review and it still makes me very interested in this version, not DCT though, I've had that and not so keen on it, but it's not a deal breaker and you're right about leaving DCT in sport mode. It does look lovely, I think it is better looking than the BM. That 1250 motor though.....And I know you know all about that engine, it's bloody good. Good review Flyer.
@jeremyrigden92004 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this, i'm an Amersham lad so know all your roads, you even went past my M and Ds old house 11.21. in my late sixties now, but had some great times on old Triumphs ect, thanks for the memories, keep up the great reviews,. Regards Jerry
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Jerry - glad you find my videos of interest!
@debenhamdave43144 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping the videos coming, so enjoying regurarily riding bikes again. Cheers TMF
@ronboe63254 жыл бұрын
Who ever does the red white & blue paint schemes at Honda is just brilliant. Witchcraft even. They do a wonderful job. ADV bikes are the SUV's of the motorcycle world aren't they? I probably should get an AT but right now I have three bikes and no payments which is a really good place to be in. :D Like you I tend to vacillate between something like the Royal Enfield Interceptor (simple) to a kitted out AT. I should keep what I have an avoid the whole philosophical mess. Nice job.
@davidclifton53864 жыл бұрын
Just what you need on an overcast day ,dark visor and sun glasses.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
It's just what I need - I have very sensitive eyes....
@stevebolton84714 жыл бұрын
He normally sleeps in a ⚰️ in the day time ... 😀
@alanhenderson34174 жыл бұрын
All we know is .....he's called "The Stig".......
@davidclifton53864 жыл бұрын
Try telling that to the police if they stop youTheMissendenFlyer p
@plympytheplumber46053 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my 2017 DCT AT, its a phenomenal machine
@libman20064 жыл бұрын
Done about 6 hours riding today, up into the Peak District and down into Derbyshire and some how managed to avoid the rain. Now watching this and I'm thinking about when I'll be able to get out again.
@goldenchild48354 жыл бұрын
Thanks again, Andy. As bleak as it is it's always great to see a bit of the English countryside. Sidebar, I'm probably shunting coal-to-Newcastle, but the GoPro 8 has great built-in digitial steady-cam. Used it skiing in Japan in Feb and it's almost drone steady. Also, I can recommend the "Zoom H4 pro" digital sound recorder. I think they're probably a couple of hundred quid in your neck of the woods but it has unbeatable sound quality and is very portable.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips (I already have a GoPro8 by the way)
@toniraff54884 жыл бұрын
Anyone seeing an Optimus Prime kind thing going on with new adventure sports colour scheme? Love the looks the sound and quality promise of the new Honda Africa twin
@staudio4 жыл бұрын
I have been very happy with my 2017 KTM 1290 SA-T, but if something were to happen to it and I needed a replacement I think I would have to give the African Twin a look. As well as the GS....so many great bikes out there so little time (and money). Nice review, at first I didn't think I would consider the DCT but now warming up to the idea......stay safe.
@PCERules4 жыл бұрын
Adjustable seat... amazing how few road bikes don’t have them and the last bike to have adjustable pegs was my GSXR750... manufacturers must realise we’re all different!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@martindavies83264 жыл бұрын
I wish all motorcycle Manufacturers would offer different seat heights, as I’m a 29” inside leg, and I do like to be flat footed when I stop. Cheers Andy good review as always.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Martin and I agree - nice touch from Honda making this big bike so much more accessible in this incarnation...
@davidbesant4 жыл бұрын
You can buy various seat height options from suzuki for the Vstrom. Probably an option on most adventure bikes if you ask.
@travelinben19664 жыл бұрын
If the AT were shaft drive,I’d be swayed. Looking towards the Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 instead.As always, thank you for the very informative video TMF.👍
@scaff34504 жыл бұрын
Good Review Looking forward to the next one
@bieffess4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. You often mention your 5'8" height when referring to a bike's seat height and ability to get your feet on the ground but it would be much more informative and helpful if you mentioned your inside leg measurement. All the best.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@HD2O13XL12OOC4 жыл бұрын
My inseam is 29 inches many adv bikes seem too tall for me.
@gavinj78074 жыл бұрын
@@HD2O13XL12OOC Same as mine but I have a 2019 Tiger 800 XRX and on the lower seat height (810mm) can get both feet flat on the ground
@PragmaticTornado4 жыл бұрын
I had a 2018 Africa Twin Adventure Sports. Loved some things about it, like the sound, look and that legendary Honda reliability. But engine wise, it bored me to death. So I traded it in for a 2020 KTM 1290 Super Adventure R. Suffice to say, I'm now happy with the engine performance. I don't feel as safe about the reliability, but I absolutely love the bike. Power wheelies in the first 3 gears is always a riot. My point is - I would have upgraded to a 2020 Honda Africa Twin instead - if the engine had been as exciting as the one on the KTM.
@dpbCanal4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 standard at with dct and the thing I love the most is the auto blipper when u go down 2 gears it's just a fantastic sound.
@simonrobinson75364 жыл бұрын
It is probably a fantastic bike, but for me I can’t get over the look of the massive front wheel, each to there own. Good video none the less 👍
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@garethgibafricatwin66634 жыл бұрын
I have the 2019 Adventure Sports and I love it, would love to jump on that!
@greenlightning69714 жыл бұрын
There's something about Africa Twin, beyond bike itself. Btw,that windscreen omg looks like HUD in F-35 ,I think that Honda will relocate all infos from TFT up there just for the ease of use 😅
@Banditmanuk4 жыл бұрын
The comprehensive electronics, they look attractive on a new bike if you can afford it. I do wonder how attractive to own these bikes will be in 10 years? Probably not so easy for your home mechanic. Perhaps it's just my 'older person's view but I would prefer to keep it cheaper, simple and hopefully long term reliable.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% with you on that.....
@stevebolton84714 жыл бұрын
Older Africa Twins are available! I agree though! There are many NC750X DCT’s with high mileage and no problems though. According to the uk nc forum.
@AlexandreSantos-mn4sk4 жыл бұрын
Keep the good quality videos :) i own a crf1100 and the negative i most notice it´s on the highway above 140km/h (90mph) maybe because the offroadish tyres. The big screen its wonderfull if you have an Iphone but then i found another negative and its the little screen, it have space to fit a gasoline gauge so you dont need to keep changing the top screen just to check fuel.
@exeterrider4 жыл бұрын
Good vid, I'm also intrested in if it's a GS converter. I can see they both have a pros and cons, but the twin just seems a bit more nicer to own and to look at, slimmer, sexyer (or whatever lol) less lumpy but yes the gs gives you the armchair feel on big journeys, and I agree with the TFT screen, it's nice and it's all there but typically a bit too much like all those controls on the left side. It's handy watching your vid knowing I felt the same way about it. You know what it's like when you feel you may have missed something but unlike you I don't really have many people to bounce off (very lonely 😭) 😂😂 good video, and am intrested in the gs converter video. My guess is its still GS for you and that's fair enough, I reckon I would go AT and I like dct too. If you get the chance to do light of road then it's superb, and the dct let's you concentrate on the more important things. Front end is a bit of a case of "what's going on down there" but at the same time you it's doing its job well and looking after you. I thought base price was 13ish. Anyway could go on all day. Thanks👍🍻
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned - more on GS v AT next video!
@stevebolton84714 жыл бұрын
Yes the base model is more off road biased with less wind protection but has all the electronics including cruise. It’s a very nice bike.
@Igor128224 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer yes please
@Igor128224 жыл бұрын
@@stevebolton8471 base model does not have el.suspension, tubeless tyres, cruise control....or does it? Plus more wind protection and larger tank, I go for adv...
@kevint38454 жыл бұрын
Nice bike, never had one but was looking at them yesterday, may take a closer look
@derekholme69224 жыл бұрын
Very nice looking machine but on my second BMW GS, Exclusive R1250 and I prefer the GS, just had a great ride out today and it gets better by the mile, the 1250 engine is a beauty, no need to visit Hilltop or have aftermarket exhaust, sounds sweet especially using the quick shifter which has taken a while to get to grips with, ride safe and enjoy.
@raycollington43104 жыл бұрын
Wether you're pro or anti DCT, Honda have produced a great transmission option. A great young man's competitor for the old fat man's GS. The tele-lever, boxer and shaft does still have some appeal. Residual value of GS might be something to consider. Thanks TMF.
@GadgetMart4 жыл бұрын
I ride a BMW R850R and a R1150GS, I get bikers giving me the nod on the 850 with it almost ‘standard’ looks and round headlight. I find I get ignored on the GS mostly, which is pathetic seeing I’m riding a 20 year old machine that I maintain myself.
@johnhartley9644 жыл бұрын
Brilliant vid - Brilliant channel
@Gofr54 жыл бұрын
Been looking for some riding jeans lately, may take a look at these. The price on them definitely seems right for what they are offering. Even with shipping to Canada, it's still a decent deal. Thanks.
@MrTacklebury4 жыл бұрын
I'd love the Africa Twin DCT, alas it's a bit out of my reach if I want to stay married. One thing I hadn't heard you say if it had was cruise control. If I switch to another bike from my Himalayan, that's one thing I will insist on next time. I do have a tentacle out trying to check out a Honda NC750X DCT because the DCT really has me intrigued. I have nerve damage in my left foot and I can only deal with shifting so much. I think it'd be a great thing to have. Thanks for the review!
@paintup464 жыл бұрын
Both versions of the 2020 Africa Twin come with cruise control as standard!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Scott - and yes, it has cruise control.....
@stevebolton84714 жыл бұрын
The NC750X is a great bike. I own one. Might be a nicer Euro 5 mid range Africa Twin based on it for 2021 according to the rumours with a slightly larger engine. Hopefully a nice TFT and some electronics too with a more comfortable seat so hang on for the winter announcements. Or look into second hand NC to save the cash! They go on forever...
@cliveomahoney40964 жыл бұрын
I saw your vid with Itchy Boots and then watched the whole of her series 2, in South America. I was thinking, more or less throughout, that she would have had major problems with any of these high tech, premium priced, heavy, petrol guzzling machines. In fact, at certain times, she would have been in real difficulty (she would have coped). You can buy a sports tourer and an Enfield Himalayan new for less money than one of these flagship bikes and have far more versatility. No one in their right mind would take a GS or an Africa Twin off road on their own (apart from a little gravel track to get to the pub (I wish). If either was dropped, no one apart from.......Geoff Capes (!?) could pick it up and it would cost too much money to repair. They're fashion bling and not worth the expense or reliability issues with the ridiculous electronics panoply that no one would regularly use in any case. .
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree with the point you’re making - but big adventure bikes make great touring machines too and allow you to buy into the rugged vibe....
@SewGurl584 жыл бұрын
Check out Nora ADV she did two extensive trips on a Suzuki 650 V-Strom. And Kinga “on her bike” is on a BMW F850 GS. She’s been everywhere. Including wrecking her first bike in a head on.
@GavCritchley4 жыл бұрын
I love Honda and I'm sure they're super reliable, but it'd be when something does wrong in the back of beyond, you'll have more chance of getting a non electronic bike going than something dripping with tech. I guess you'd head over to Yamaha and get a new Tenere if you want the latter. As always, great vid TMF.
@robfearonphotographyhillwa95833 жыл бұрын
Best looking Adventure Bike, Thanks for the review :-)
@TheMissendenFlyer3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@Tomahawkfalcone4 жыл бұрын
Love the africa twin, nearly bought the 2019 but was a little to high and no cruise control, seems they got the new one spot on and the new black colour is great, until you get to the price. Overpriced getting into gs territory. Ill keep the v85
@ironmanmichael4 жыл бұрын
Bought the jeans. Looking forward to not looking like an alien around the shops (whenever I feel brave enough to go - feels more dangerous than biking at the moment!)
@matthewelsey17824 жыл бұрын
Looks a lovely bit of kit but my next bike will be a G.S
@TheDuck98124 жыл бұрын
Nice review - I do like that manufacturers are now allowing for us shorties to ride adventure bikes comfortably! There's rumours floating around suggesting that honda may be doing an 850 AT too, I hope they are right...
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed!
@MrChrisWorkman4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I rode the previous version and didn't purchase because of not being able to even two feet down tippy toes. Glad to see it's now more friendly to uk shorties ha ha.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Yes that issue is now sorted!
@CharlieDeltaEchoVict4 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks TMF! But oh my goodness that price! £15K, thats crazy expensive to me.
@GadgetMart4 жыл бұрын
I ride a German twin but African twins matter too
@Xiao_PP4 жыл бұрын
All twins matter
@GadgetMart4 жыл бұрын
Chris Hansen 👍
@Igor128224 жыл бұрын
Same here mate. Have chosen Beemer and love it but Africa is my second choice
@fertiglustig61224 жыл бұрын
German twin have to go to see the doctor every year or only 10.000 km Japan twin only after 12.000 km no need to see the doctor every year. Save the doctor bill and enjoy holiday. No need to worry about doctor appointment to 😂
@Igor128224 жыл бұрын
@@fertiglustig6122 not really a deal breaker....
@20spag4 жыл бұрын
You mention the hard seat. Try an Air Hawk attachment. Inflate it just a tad. No more pain in the bum!!
@rickseibel59043 жыл бұрын
I found the same on my Africa Twin. Funny how just a little, and I mean a little air is needed to make for a comfortable ride. A plus for those real long stints is the ability to stand up and give my 74 year old tush a breather.
@TechMindsOfficial4 жыл бұрын
Hey, one of my subscribers mentioned I should check your channel out as apparently we live in the same village :) Great content sir! 👌
@brucekendall524 жыл бұрын
Where the new GS wins everytime:-Shaft drive,easy to remove rear wheel,easy to clean air filter,easy to check valve clearances.What i miss is the DCT of the Honda.Cheers.
@fasteddy36614 жыл бұрын
I really don’t get this adoration of the GS by the public and the press. I had 27 bikes in the last 7 years and I now still have 9. The bike that I liked the least was the GS. Yes, it is a practical bike like you mention. But what a boring bike. And also with a lot of flaws. It is quite expensive, but the reliability is about 4 times worse than that of a Japanese bike and even worse than Triumph and Ducati. I had a 2016 1200GS triple black edition. The standard seat was horrible. I exchanged it for the Rallye seat, which was a bit narrow but a lot more comfortable (that said, the standard seat on the 1150 GSA is the best seat I ever had). The sound of the exhaust is a drone that I found nerve wracking. Exchanging it for an Akrapovic only made it worse. Above 4,000 revs the sound from the engine is horrible, like a box of steel balls clattering below you. Compare that with my Ducati Multistrada 950, which starts singing at higher revs. The windscreen was giving a lot of buffeting, but was too weak to hold a deflector on top, so I had to buy a windscreen re-inforcement from the USA. The dials were unreadable because of a combination of reflecting glass and greyish lettering. I always checked the speed on the navigation unit (the dials on the 1150 GSA were perfect btw). My hands got numb because of the vibration in the hand grips. I installed extra heavy bar end weights, a handlebar cross member and grip puppies to no avail. Probably as a concession to off-road riding the shift lever and brake lever are placed more inward than would be comfortable, so I installed extensions for both. The electronic suspension is unreliable. Even at lower mileages it can break down leaving you without damping or with 100% damping. Just ask TMF. Either way you can call a tow truck when you are far away from home. Replacement costs 2,500 Euros. I really tried to like the bike and I am not a BMW hater. I have a 1956 R50 and a 2002 R1200C which are among my favourite bikes. You are right about the DCT. I have it on my NC750X and CrossTourer and it works flawlessly.
@GadgetMart4 жыл бұрын
Fast Eddy glad I still have a R1150 then
@willwye4104 жыл бұрын
BMW shaft drive has its problems. Big safety recall announced today for 7 models due to the paralever pivot breaking!
@johnhartley9644 жыл бұрын
Great vid - Great channel
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@manologocho4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review and very much info on it amd the views love it ride on that african mi pana, but has to tell you something don't like the camera on the front mirror whatsoever great to hear and listen that pippe.
@thinkingoutofthebox.94214 жыл бұрын
'Back Country Navigator' app, ordinance Survey maps of the whole country, makes finding green lanes easy.
@andyjackson54 жыл бұрын
this would come in handy as he said he was in the south east of england 😂
@offthebeatenpath91444 жыл бұрын
Love my '16 AT but would still hesitate to go up the the AS version due to the amount of remote, off road that I ride and all the electronics. Did 8k kms last year off road and would have the electronics get "confused" at times. Like the electronics I have but would not want more. Honda will do well with the AS version with the road riders.
@UrgetoRide4 жыл бұрын
Good review, thanks TMF. Do people even buy these DCTs though? I really doubt it otherwise BMW would've brought out an automatic GS stat .. So begs the question of why this big ol scooter even exists when you can buy the manual one and be part of the experience
@Banditmanuk4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the first DTC owner to tell you how good DTC is 😉
@mickthemaverick59984 жыл бұрын
It exists to let those of us riders with a damaged left ankle still be able to ride!!
@UrgetoRide4 жыл бұрын
@@Banditmanuk 🤣
@UrgetoRide4 жыл бұрын
@@mickthemaverick5998 You know what I stand corrected, thats not a bad use case. Very specific and niche but whatever keeps riders riding ! 👍
@exeterrider4 жыл бұрын
And here's the first one😂DCT dosent run like a cvt belt drive scooter. I too used to want to be part of the changing gear involvement of a bike but I like dct alot. I still like manual but alot to be said for dct. You still feel part of the experience with DCT. Do you still kick start bikes, turn the fuel in the on postion? How about Abs? It's just another string. Some like it some don't, fair enough but it's not scooter like. If it was I wouldn't own one.🍻😉
@sweetcostarica4 жыл бұрын
No.1 *Thing I like about the Honda* Here is the biggest _problem_ (involving time & money) between the two bikes (BMW & Honda) that _everyone_ _knows_ but don't talk about is, *_reliability._* The *BMW R1250GSA* has one of the worst reliability records (see CR article and talk to BMW owners) and the *Honda CRF1100L Africa Twin* (Adventure Sports version or any Honda) has the best reliability record. NOTE: Most *BMWs* are sold right at three (3) years due to the warranty running out and no free expensive fixes after that so BMW owners sale their three (3) year old bike & get a new one. Most *Honda* owners after the 600 mile maintenance checks just ride & ride & change the oil every now & then.
@posapie4 жыл бұрын
Honda should bring out the Africa Twin in a mid size version. Will be flying out of the shops...
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
I agree - and I think they will be doing that very soon.....
@yellowbird86904 жыл бұрын
For a better explanation of the DCT gear box take a look at the video "Has Koenigsegg Made The World's Fastest Shifting Transmission?" by Engineering Explained, (Skip to 5:37). The clutches in DCT does the gear changing directly inside the box , where the standard clutch just disengages the whole box to allow the gears to shift.
@fallofmanbrand4 жыл бұрын
cool video it was really entertaining
@chrisi9704 жыл бұрын
Great review, I am looking forward to the sexy negatives
@banjopluker82544 жыл бұрын
From other reports the DCT is terrible off road. Dangerous at times from what I have seen. Great review. I would think the gs is a better deal just for the non DCT!!!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Honda do make a non DCT version of course...
@banjopluker82544 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer sorry I should have stated I an from Australia and Honda for what ever reason don't bring the non DCT electronic suspension model to Australia. I have learnt a lot from your videos. Very informative and unbiased information for me to choose my first adventure bike. Thank you very much!!!
@Pillokun4 жыл бұрын
I am around the same height as TMF but the adventure bikes are so huge and so heavy. No way I would even consider myself riding such a monster of a bike. The old Africa Twin looked big but it wasnt. Was such a pleasure to ride, felt like a boat :D Nothing to do with the AFT but was in a bike store today... my Jaw dropped. they wanted ~20K€ for an f3 800 and 19K€ for the f3 675... the new cbr1000rrr was 25K€ wtf is happening. f3 was a direct competitor to the d675 which was at most 13K€.... crazy...
@tonytrevino32044 жыл бұрын
keep them coming
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Will do Tony...
@lord.onk994 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that short spin out. Lovely bike, love the auto, but too dear for me.
@freedomisntfree131 Жыл бұрын
The 2 things that the BMW has over the Honda is the single swing arm for changing the rear tire and the HP. Other than that, I'd rather have the Honda.
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
Fair enough.
@freedomisntfree131 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer I really appreciate your videos.
@bradleyalexander58214 жыл бұрын
Impressive bike for sure. Can always rely on a fair review from TMF. 👍🏼 😎 🌎
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Thank you...
@shakthiadityam61284 жыл бұрын
1st one to watch and like and comment
@stevenkelby21694 жыл бұрын
Why are you so proud to come first?
@82phalanX4 жыл бұрын
The Laden down 'ere might've beaten us to it 😁
@grayjohn19064 жыл бұрын
Exciting 😅
@handsfree10004 жыл бұрын
If new bikes rely on credit, who feels confident enough to buy one. New bike sales are going to be thin on the ground methinks.
@Certago4 жыл бұрын
Very lovely bike, I've tried the previous version with DCT and while a bit lumpy at low speeds it was enjoyable to ride. With the trailer screen I get savage buffeting but on the low screen its fine. I prefer the non DCT version though as revving out the engine a bit is part of the fun for me but using it for commuting would be excellent (if we ever have to commute again that is...). Ultimately I went for the big versys because it was more affordable in used condition (got the full GT version) and is just as enjoyable to ride.
@stevebolton84714 жыл бұрын
DCT does not stop you revving out the engine if that’s your thing. Sport 3 or overriding gear with paddles or manual mode will all do that.
@Certago4 жыл бұрын
@@stevebolton8471 good point, I did not test that properly in my 1 hour test ride.
@stevebolton84714 жыл бұрын
@@Certago Basically I keep my NC750X in D for fuel economy and either snap the throttle open for overtakes, or with a shorter distance punch it down 2 gears, which it will hold for a few seconds while you wait for a gap. Snapping the throttle open also changes down 2 gears automatically on the NC - not sure on the AT, it has more grunt than the NC.
@tsav69524 жыл бұрын
The engine does sound nice.
@teneretraveller89804 жыл бұрын
Without doubt the best looking big travel bike. A d I say that as the previous owner of a original. But the best thing is the height change. Same height as you and 12st dripping wet, noway could I ride the previous incarnation confidently off road and definitely not with a pillion. To the best of my knowledge the Japanese are not the tallest race on the planet, and yet the big travel bikes need you to be around 6ft. Well done Honda. Happy travels
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Yes great move by Honda making this more accessible to us short wimpy types...
@SBKPete4 жыл бұрын
Surprised there was no mention of the fact that its got Apple Car Play. That’s a big plus for me 😉
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
I mentioned it in my previous video on this bike - did you see that one?
@ssmith9544 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer But no Android Auto... the omission of that and choice of going Apple-only would rule it out for me on principle alone.
@vishwav204 жыл бұрын
TMF, quickly now, this and Tiger Rally pro 900, which would you have in your garage in a hearrtbeat?
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
I've not ridden the Rally Pro yet - I have loads of videos coming up on the Tiger 900 GT though...and I'd rather have that than the AT personally......next video explains what I don't like about the AT...
@szaesz81904 жыл бұрын
Well done review Mr Flyer, as allways. If it is as unreliable as the previous gen, I wouldn't touch it with a stick, left me with a bitter taste in my mouth, will never buy another Honda ever again. P.s.: Honda Blackpool Supercenter Uk customer service is a JOKE!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Oh dear, sorry to hear you had bad service....hate it when that happens...
@stevebolton84714 жыл бұрын
What happened?
@deanchild98484 жыл бұрын
Looks like a very nice bike..
@Zippy0George0Bungle2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the useful video. Can I ask, are there any power sockets or USB connections anywhere on the bike as standard?
@TheMissendenFlyer2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there must be!
@markvaughn80962 жыл бұрын
TMF, You mentioned your 5' 8" and can flat foot the 2020 when stopped with the regular seat set in the LOW portion... By chance do you know what your inseam is? I'm also 5' 8" and the AT seat height is an important consideration... Cant wait to test ride one next spring..
@TheMissendenFlyer2 жыл бұрын
I have a 32” leg if that helps?? The AT is a tall bike….
@hakikatsinghgrewal28924 жыл бұрын
Great video!! When should we expect a Tiger 900 review?
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Coming later this month - once all the AT videos are up, then it’s Tiger time....
@hakikatsinghgrewal28924 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer looking forward to them
@davidhyde22674 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer be great to hear your comparisons on those two.
@palantir1354 жыл бұрын
Interesting bike. I don’t know the price but if it’s more than £12000 than the Suzuki V-strom 1050 is more interesting. If the price is near of the Kawasaki Versys 1000SE then that one probably is more interesting than this one. If you don’t go off-road that is. If you want to go off-roading then this one is the choice but don’t forget to look at the KTM (900)? If you want/need an automatic gearbox then this is the only choice.
@IanTed4 жыл бұрын
Need my R1250 Exclusive with the Honda DCT gearbox😆, through saying that now at 6000 miles + it’s much smoother....I prefer the Twin in black, too many colours for me.
@jj_infotainment4 жыл бұрын
Honda Africa twin costs 18,500£ on road Multistrada 1260S costs 20,000£ on road in India... Which one do you suggest in terms of pricing!?!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer the Multistrada....
@GlebLapham4 жыл бұрын
Your audio sounds really good from that GoPro 4? Do you have a mic inside the helmet or is it just the camera mic?
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
No there is a mic inside the helmet 🤓
@dscc4 жыл бұрын
The TFT / Console looks to be rather tall, almost in your line-of-sight. Although, your helmet camera is mounted several inches below eye-level which might make the console seem higher than it actually is. Did you feel the visibility was OK?
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
No - I don’t like looking through the screen....
@mickthemaverick59984 жыл бұрын
Interesting video with great content. Hero 8 picture a little dark compared to the 4, maybe a bit of aperture/white balance adjustment needed? Still don't like the gold bars though!
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@skyworks16214 жыл бұрын
First thing that comes to my mind is a small negative, looking trough screen not over it. On my 2019 Vstrom XT I look over it and dont have any wind buffeting.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm not keen on that I must say....
@skyworks16214 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer since screens are offten dirty the view can be less picture perfect.
@mogumede82114 жыл бұрын
3:37 "Some people say it's the best looking adventure bike, ..." and the rest of them are wrong. Finished the sentence properly for you.
@tonygreene81able3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I'm in love or absolutely hate it. I never liked touring bike adventure sport type bikes. That said I kinda want one
@lewisbrooke3934 жыл бұрын
This may come up in the next vid, why have they left the tiny old screen (different info?)- looks odd next to the large updated screen.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Because if you use the large screen for Apple Car Play you lose everyday functionality...
@nickpaull23624 жыл бұрын
If you had to replace your GS would this be the one? If not, what would be?
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Answer in the next video on this bike!
@Igor128224 жыл бұрын
Your honest opinion, F850GS Adventure Rallye with all whistles and bells, or Africa adv? I was thinking loooong time, love both, but have chosen BMW.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Close but probably AT - I found the F850GS just way too too heavy....
@yakekaj4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, would you say the Africa Twin is more in the same class as the V-Strom than the GS, Super Duke GT, S1000XR? If so how do they compare?
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
I would personally put it in the same category as the GS......
@RedlineRossi4 жыл бұрын
Hey TMF, any idea when the tiger 900 vids are coming? How does it compare to this? Cheers 👍
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Very soon - later this month - stay tuned!
@ubermains4 жыл бұрын
Had the Africa Twin AS DCT Electronic Suspension out for a spin last friday with all intention to hate it (Been riding GS's for 8-10 years or so with a break on a Multistrada 1200), but I just can't hate it. Infact I loved the DCT. Do a fair bit of citycommuting, and it sure offloads my clutchhand. Ride a 2018 GS with all the addons at the moment, but I'm actually thinking about switching.Only concern is the front/windblast. 6'5" and the stock screen is simply not tall/wide enough. But aftermarket usually solves that. I have spend TONS of money on screens the last 15+ years, and only on the Multistrada I never got it right (4 screens tested). Any tall riders out there with suggestions of a screen? *ponder* *ponder* swap gs *ponder*
@domster2004 жыл бұрын
Use a cardboard template to get the size before buying.
@JohnCarr434 жыл бұрын
Hi there, what microphone / connection are you using with you Hero 4? Regards, John.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Just an eBay special....
@SewGurl584 жыл бұрын
Do you have a connection for a Kawasaki? I’d love to hear your impressions on the Concours C14 ABS. Or have you done a video on it? I have to chuckle a bit at most of the reviews. They all exclaim whoa this is a massive bike, got lots of speed. My friend and I love ours and do tend to stretch it’s legs a bit, but it just does it so easily. Even fully loaded on a road trip. Anyway, would love to hear your take on it.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Sadly Kawasaki UK don’t talk to me, but I’ll try and befriend a Kwak dealer.....
@SewGurl584 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer I did notice that it looks like 2018 was the last euro model produced. Roadcraft Nottingham did a ride on one but he had purchased it. It was British racing green, not a US market color.
@crispernator4 жыл бұрын
Gday mate the seat height must be pretty good , i have an 500x 2015 and im 5'6 and i am still not able to get my feet flat on the ground a slight lean and it is ok but still a bit disconcerting ,used to own a xr 250r seat height on that was terrible could only ever get one foot on the ground . It will be interesting to see how all these auto trans go when they have problems ,ive never had a bike with it and probably never will ill stick with simple i think take care .
@davidbesant4 жыл бұрын
I've had two cars with DCT, and both were totally reliable. Having said that, I don't want it on my bike. I just love playing tunes with the gearbox.
@dungbeetlemovies4 жыл бұрын
Looks like you may have to look through the screen. Or is it adjustable enough to look over it?
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
No I had to look through it (although it is adjustable)....
@ashcunningham4494 жыл бұрын
How do you stop the wind noise on your GoPro? I have a GoPro Hero8 and the wind noise is terrible, even with the wind setting set to on.
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
In the helmet you mean? Obviously I use an external mic....
@ashcunningham4494 жыл бұрын
TheMissendenFlyer for the GoPro’s you have mounted on your bike and outside of helmet. Or is the sound on you videos just from the external mic inside your helmet?
@gavinfraser77844 жыл бұрын
What would you choose between the Africa Twin and the Tiger 900. GT or Rally????
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer the Tiger 900 (reviews on that coming soon!) - stay tuned....
@chvcky14 жыл бұрын
What jacket are you wearing please ? :)
@SanandanDA4 жыл бұрын
I'm confused between this and the Kawasaki Versys 1000, here in India we only get the adventure sports Africa Twin, I don't have any off-road intentions, comfort is a priority, Which one should I get? Also, the Versys is about £5000 cheaper or it's equivalent? Help me out please as I like both the bike. Cheers.