Thanks for this vid. Here in the States, mags won't say anything bad about a bike until the new model comes out, then they'll say how bad the old style was. They don't want to be last on the receivership when new bikes come out for reviews. Or worse, lose advertising dollars.
@LOGICAL-JAY Жыл бұрын
So true
@samuelwragg86153 жыл бұрын
You cannot beat the feeling of building your own bike or having it built to your spec
@LOGICAL-JAY Жыл бұрын
Yep..some people build then better than the actual company. Most of times you come out cheaper with your own build with the same specs and parts. Sometimes even better than the bike company..lol
@tccycling3 жыл бұрын
I don't care what anyone says, the BMC Teammachine SLR01 has an amazing look, amazing integration, is super lightweight and is the one I'd get (in Di2 form).
@marcuscheung50254 жыл бұрын
TCR should be No.1
@Fastfitnesstips3 жыл бұрын
The superbike calculator with data is here: www.cyclingapps.net/tables/searchable-table-of-superbikes/ (alternative sheets link: fft.tips/100)
@abdidi31192 жыл бұрын
the thing just doesn't show up anymore
@Fastfitnesstips2 жыл бұрын
@@abdidi3119 thanks for pointing this out, someone messed it up, I have restored it now
@felinefriend6101 Жыл бұрын
never usually subscribe…..your brutal honesty did it for me this time. im subscribed!!!👍😊
@GCPerformance184 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome video, that was my tarmac footage you used!!! So cool to see my video used, it’s very cool 😁
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I put a thanks at the end but ill add another in video description soon. You have an awesome channel
@GCPerformance184 жыл бұрын
FastFitnessTips: Cycling Science! I appreciate it man, your videos are amazing I hope to get here soon, they are very in depth and the quality is very nice
@Strange_Brew3 жыл бұрын
I think if you are more comfortable with a bike you will be faster overall
@jimmynickelz4 жыл бұрын
2015 Cannondale Supersix evo. Just unapologetically love it. Had a new Propel. Got an Allez sprint. Cdale nailed it.
@georgec28943 жыл бұрын
jimmynickelz Have the 2016 version of the Evo and love it
@jimmynickelz3 жыл бұрын
@@georgec2894 Sometimes, analog technology works.
@paulstanley99503 жыл бұрын
Agree! I have a 2015 supersix Di2 ultegra and it's an awesome bike to look at and ride! Just purchased a new topstone carbon ultegra and the supersix is a smoother bike on the road. Don't overlook the caad12 either, I have one of those and honestly is just amazing for the price!
@tobycolin62713 жыл бұрын
I ride a 2012 synapse carbon a few tweaks but I haven’t found anything better so far. light, fast, comfortable, good in a cross wind and quiet all the things modern bikes are not. The venge has to be the most disappointing bike I’ve ever ridden, harsh, heavy and dull.
@highfived4 жыл бұрын
Can you have a budget version of this for bikes between £2000-£3000
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
Yes i try and do this this soon
@highfived4 жыл бұрын
FastFitnessTips: Cycling Science! Thank you
@garrettsmith82863 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a barely used Giant Contend SL 1 as my 1st rode bike. Would be cool to see reviews in this category.
@waynesmith45893 жыл бұрын
Buy direct from China and you can have the exact bike for a lot less .
@brianschwartz92943 жыл бұрын
@@waynesmith4589 I would be very careful buying a bike directly from the PRC. These bikes have some notable catastrophic failures.
@IShowQuick72 жыл бұрын
Best bikes : Pinarello dogma f12, Colnago v3rs, Factor ostro vam. My fav ❣️
@howardpearlman63284 жыл бұрын
The absolute best part (and most instructive too!!!) was about time 19 where you chronicle a bike build with pretty cool music to boot.
@indonesiaamerica70503 жыл бұрын
The best deal right now is probably the Tarmac SL7 Pro. Most of the important differences come from the new wheels. They're apparently just as fast in "road" conditions as the CLX64 and quite a bit lighter. Getting them as the CL range on an SL7 Pro for $7000 is still a lot but I doubt Alaphilippe would have noticed if the Pro (model) level gear had been finished like the S-Works. There are some other really good deals out there but I don't know of any better package and that is because of how effective the new Roval wheels are.
@SeeYouUpTheRoad4 жыл бұрын
So glad people like you drill down through all the details. IDGAF about all that nonsense I buy a bike because I love the way it looks and rides. And dear god never a disc brake bike and all those hidden cables and housing what a nightmare! Thank You for all you do Alex!!
@wincrasher20073 жыл бұрын
My SL7 is a dream machine. You can save some money by stepping down one level to the Pro version - the Ultegra Di2 is a great groupset for non-professional riders and not much of a sacrifice to save 50% of the cost.
@LOGICAL-JAY Жыл бұрын
I agree, I built up my sworks sl7 with a 2022 di2 ultegra 12speed and I still can't feel the difference between my older 2021 11speed dura ace vs my new ultegra 12speed..if my new ultegra breakdowns I'll probably be the 1st to add a 105 di2 12speed on an s-works SL7...lol..if trek can do it on the new madone SLR then its all good..lol.dura ace, ultegra and 105 are all the same but weigh different..
@carloslourido84433 жыл бұрын
I just saw one of your videos on youtube, and find it very interesting. I looked at the calculator and find it very useful.I been riding many years and purchased many brands, Olmo, Tomassinni, Colnago, Pinarrello, Bottecchia and the last one purchased a few years back, Formigli, love to see a review. Thanks
@cesarsaurasilva66373 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the excellent content! Keep it up 👍
@wazhazhe3 жыл бұрын
I know this has been out for some time but I just came across it. I have always bought a frame and fork and built up the bike with components of my choosing. It's certainly not the cheapest route but I end up with exactly what I want. I currently have on order a Bianchi Specialissima. The component list is not finalized but it will be an eclectic mix based around Super Record shifters and derailleurs. Not a criticism but just another way of doing things.
@mrpercussive4 жыл бұрын
Videos like these is why this is one of my favorite cycling channels! Lots of great info!
@martinjohanson64264 жыл бұрын
14:24 : "Can you beat it by building up your own bike? Yes you can." How? Which frame would you choose? I want the build to be as the Tarmac SL7 (lightweight and aero)
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
the trick to building your own, is to source your own components at a great price (watch our video on this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lbWgZJOTs5PSZIU.html)
@hakdocarmwrestlingmd4 жыл бұрын
Look at workswell wcb r 268 frame sir. Chinese lightweight aero launched all the way back to late 2018
@githige3 жыл бұрын
Get a 2019 Tarmac SL 6 with rim brakes and upgrade with dura ace components
@martinjohanson64263 жыл бұрын
@@githige Good tips, but I'm looking for disc brakes
@ronitdebnath4 жыл бұрын
One can quantify aerodynamics. But one can't quantify handling. And when going downhill bends, the latter gains you more time saving.
@benbraceletspurple91083 жыл бұрын
excellent points, I can never find the worst bike models, even with intense searching, have to go to product reviews that are critical
@onilovni12343 жыл бұрын
My favourite bike would be the Venge Generation 4: More aero, lighter, threaded BB and the new CLX Rapide... Maybe they will bring back the Venge some day?
@TheMASDrummer3 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on new TCR?
@w4yland3r274 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. For what it's worth, I unsubscribed from the large cycling channel two years ago and don't miss the fluff. Your content is far more useful quality per time spent.
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, appreciated!
@moheyns3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but the cube does not belong in this video. You might not like the cosmetics but if you are going to bash a bike atleast show some hard data.
@aamirnagaria21894 жыл бұрын
Please do a similar video for TT/triathlon bikes
@happydays81714 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, yes! I swear my old tear drop design SHIV cuts through the air cleaner than these new Kam-tail designs. But that Cube TT triathlon bike mentioned in the video looks like a shark out of water, like it just wants to attack, but is it functional?
@albr44 жыл бұрын
@@happydays8171 the full aerofoil tear drop design should be more stable in crosswinds and better at dealing with unsteady airflow like in the real world. The Kam-tail may work in the wind tunnel but I'm not sure it works as well as the tear drop outdoors.
@happydays81714 жыл бұрын
@@albr4 The Hambini says cam-tail design starts to work at 48km, and crosswinds at more than 11%. That's wind tunnel findingss though, in the real world it feels different. Bike mfg love the cam-tail design because it's easier to make bikes stronger and lighter that way as opposed to teardrop design which takes more mass.
@VicCampbell14 жыл бұрын
Great video, Alex, as usual. Cheers
@argeelearner39784 жыл бұрын
Giant TCR is my number 1
@garrettsmith82863 жыл бұрын
This was great! Loved it!
@dickmartino99334 жыл бұрын
Well said Prof about the cycling magazines although they need us to keep buying bikes and not hack off the makers for them to keep going and so they might eschew the science. I'm now paranoid about bottles. Thanks for all the spreadsheets.
@happydays81714 жыл бұрын
I think the Xlab aero bottle on the front down tube makes my Scott Foil 10 more aero (by Hambini standards). And in 2 yrs of riding with it, it's only popped out once.
@lo6913 жыл бұрын
How do you rate the new Canyon Aeroad 2021 ?
@jimmyhor784 жыл бұрын
Disagree about the Cube. The price is about half of Specialized Venge pro with the same Ultegra di2 and frame of similar weight and aero properties. You can choose the wheel upgrade of your own choice and still save big chunk of cash. Only the canyon Aeroad cf sl 8.0 di2 disc can beat it in value but you lose out on fully hidden cables and a dated +slightly heavier frame. Looks are personal taste.
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
Yes i think with the upgraded wheelset its not that bad like the one in the video and yes good value. Maybe I was too harsh! However try the sheet and it will still rank high
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
Yes i think with the upgraded wheelset its not that bad like the one in the video and yes good value. Maybe I was too harsh! However try the sheet and it will still rank high
@insquares4 жыл бұрын
I think the SL7 aero claims are very misleading. How does a round downtube bike become as aero as a venge? I believe the SL7 aero benefits come from the wheelset, integrated cables and stem and aero seat tube. I'd rather have a Cannondale SuperSix or Cervelo R5.
@jimmyhor784 жыл бұрын
Specialized did the testing and found that having an aero shaped downtube provided very little benefits over a round one but added a lot more weight.
@insquares4 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyhor78 Hmmm. Can you point me to the testing? Any independent testing has shown that the fastest bikes are those with aero downtubes - SystemSix, Madone, Venge, Timemachine, Propel, Aeroad, ...
@jimmyhor784 жыл бұрын
@@insquares German Tour magazine had just tested the SL7 in the wind tunnel. It came out at 210w just 2w difference from 2019 Venge at 208w.
@BDH BDH I Agree. The full aero and weight benefit of the bike only comes with the $12k build with highest end groupsets. Drop down a level to the $7000 pro which is still pretty pricy and you get heavier carbon and CL rapides with round spokes. Go down another level to the $5000 expert and you have heavy aluminum wheels but you also lose the aerofly bar which is a huge part of the aero package. Which is why I mentioned that the Cube is actually pretty good value compared. For under $4700 you get the pro version with the exact same frame and handlecars as the top end version but with alloy wheels. You can add a pair of Hunt 50/65 or Reynolds AR58/62 at under still fall well below the price of the SL7 Pro version. That said I really love the silver color of the SL7 Expert model.
@MIAthe3053 жыл бұрын
I love my cannondale SuperSixEvo. With 105 it’s good enough for me as a beginner and I don’t feel like I needed up pay up for Ultegra or Duraace, it’s a great frame that one day I can upgrade. I do wana upgrade the wheels though, the Mavics it comes with are cheap and according to my much more experienced friends the weak link on my bike
@felinefriend6101 Жыл бұрын
agreed. 2019 supersix evo. literally sail past many a cervello n hits highest speed of all bikes in my group when not pedalling on steep inclines
@archfxcreative3 жыл бұрын
How About the 2020 BMC Timemachine Road 01 ? what can you say about it?
@mandcali76133 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have watched your honest review and I have a Scott bike. I was just curious why a Bianchi model is not seen in your video. I may have skipped some frames…
@waynesmith45893 жыл бұрын
Giant TCR , brilliant bike , brilliant value .
@paulysci9252 жыл бұрын
Agree I've owned 2 SL0 disc they're great 👍 not the most exciting but they've been predictable and reliable which in my book equates to safety and control without sacrifices to the overall high-end performance.
@ricric95214 жыл бұрын
I was hating on Spesh for a while until I tried the SL6 disc. To me, they finally put it all together. Best riding bike I've ever owned.
@jaymueller24183 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great bike.
@lukenicholls25223 жыл бұрын
Great video, I'd like to see similar but for framesets as over time I've upgraded the components and wheels on my cheap bike and at some point the last step will be replacing the frameset. Current favourite is the Ridley Noah.
@raudi4 жыл бұрын
thanks, i was looking at the new canyon aeroad when released or a tarmac sl7
@ovathere934 жыл бұрын
That SL7 checks alot of boxes. Including the new Rovals.
@ariffhakimishahri49573 жыл бұрын
Great video👍🏻👏🏻 may i also know what is the make of the bottle cage of the SL7?
@jaredfontaine20024 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me? All the Italian bikes should be on the list Colnagos are heavy and the paint job has gone downhill...
@Northwindbreeze3 жыл бұрын
Overpriced Italian products are not any news. Go to Venice for example and try to afford an icecream or a restaurant for a Pasta Carbonara! You will pay 1/4 of one of these Italian bikes.
@andrywidjaja884 жыл бұрын
What is your thought of Cervelo S3 Disc? Internal cable routing and clean cockpit too.
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
True, but a little heavy (if that worries you)
@philipcortez4263 жыл бұрын
I dont agree at all with this video. Specially calling all these high end bikes that has TDF reputation worst. Like BMC, Pinarello and specialized always seeing them crossing the finish line first, and with multiple achievements. If we’re talking about price points yes because their not affordable for the most part, but just because their price is high doesnt make them worst, cheap bikes are made with low end carbon materials and the components that comes with the bike is a big factor as well.
@philipsangalang50774 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or were the aero tests skewed by the results of having deeper rims? Especially the 1400g, 51/60mm depth Roval Rapid CLX
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
Do.you mean in our.sheet or in the wind tunnel? Basically this is true...more.deep section wheels will improve aero
@philipsangalang50774 жыл бұрын
@@Fastfitnesstips on the sheet. Things may be much closer than 13W if every frame were paired up with the same wheels
@eilonshalev3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and constantly objective approach! High integrity! Any thoughts about BMC GF01? (Early 10’s)..
@Fastfitnesstips3 жыл бұрын
Not sure about that one but I always loved the sister bike to that the BMC cx01...so close to buying one
@eilonshalev3 жыл бұрын
@@Fastfitnesstips got it, thx for your response. There must be some similarities so it is reassuring that you had interest in the cx01 at the very least. I really enjoy the GF01 fwiw.
@sebastianz15974 жыл бұрын
Rose X light 6 best bike for money in mine opinion
@kidsafe4 жыл бұрын
Hey it's Summit Bicycles - Burlingame.
@paul_hd18754 жыл бұрын
I get it... it’s 2020 content... but at the end of the day there’s not much out there that’s going to beat a SL6 Tarmac. The SL7 crosses the line to aero bikes. The geo is more Venge than Tarmac if you ask me.
@tobycolin62714 жыл бұрын
Another great review there are loads of us in our 40s and 50s leaving GCN as there content since Matt Stephens left has progressively got worse. Poor testing in gcn tech childish presenting and endless splurging of the industry marketing. Thank you , and the other channels oz biker, leuschar tech, hambini and vegan cycle for some perspective. If the industry puts its faith in gcn then it’s in trouble as I don’t know a serious cyclist that watches it now.
@weekenderfam79652 жыл бұрын
would like to see comparison between the Specialized SL7 and the Merida Reacto, they are very similar and interest to know what are the main differences
@nielfischer3 жыл бұрын
Giant tcr Sl0 the best all round bike
@ednsk984 жыл бұрын
hmm... my dogma f12 rim brake is 6.85 kg with 60mm depth wheels ..... so i am not sure what constitute 7.7kg -7.9kg... that he got from... do u use tiagra groupset?
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
7.62kg in disc version see www.cyclist.co.uk/pinarello/dogma/7837/pinarello-dogma-f12-disk-review; 7.11kg in non-disc granfondo-cycling.com/pinarello-dogma-f12-team-ineos-edition-2020-review/ Did you make any modifications to achieve 6.85kg?
@ednsk983 жыл бұрын
FastFitnessTips: Cycling Science! No modification at all. Sram red axs. One bottle cage. Size 51.5, dogma f12 rim (non x light) with wheels weigh 1.45kg
@evertonyoung40314 жыл бұрын
I like specialised but again after crash super poor, this whole aerodynamic thing is just a way of selling bikes,, basically a good stiff with good frame with good wheels with reasonable weight frame , will your own personal fitness will keep you at the head of your group on a Sunday Ride, or races.
@chrisvanbuggenum8714 жыл бұрын
Haha. I played with the ribble builder too and came up with a bike that cost a fortune too. I like that you can pick and choose though, its nice to have options.
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
Bait and switch from Ribble...just a little?
@kellrockets1014 жыл бұрын
Yea same...that I have read that people are waiting months and months to get them.
@chrisvanbuggenum8714 жыл бұрын
@@kellrockets101 that sucks.
@xaviervanhoorebeke22924 жыл бұрын
Nice review and nice countering of all of the marketing stuff being thrown at us in this big dollar industry. Just one remark though. Canyon offers great value for money if you have the skills to work on your bike. Not all of us can though. The after market service for me is also an important factor in the consideration to buy a bike. I’m not claiming Canyon does not do a good job in that, but as there is no dealer network I hope everyone agrees it is not as good as other brands on that part.
@Gianniz273 жыл бұрын
What are U talking about. I can service or set up my Canyon in any bike shop.
@brian_simmons_4 жыл бұрын
Have you taken a look at Look bikes? I own a 795 Blade RS so of course I’m a little biased and think it’s amazing but Hambini also seems to like em
@henkvanderstoep93813 жыл бұрын
subjective Like your opinion about the cube, seems if you upgrade the wheels with some dt swiss or zipp 404 you will have a great sub 5000 euro aero bike with ultegra Di2. But I see now in some later comment that you might have been a bit harsh. The look of the bike improves a lot (like most aero bikes) if you put some high carbon wheels on.
@Fastfitnesstips3 жыл бұрын
..but enough about you...how did you like my video? ;)
@henkvanderstoep93813 жыл бұрын
@@Fastfitnesstips well thats obvious you are a joker!
@pauladams56733 жыл бұрын
Surely, many of your comments are based on your personal tastes, which is what you criticised the other channels for. What about strength to weight ratio and ride comfort? LOOK Cycles have a lot of integrity but that is overlooked in this type of comparison. Bottom bracket design tells us a lot about torsional strength of a frame. Also, components can radically change the feel of the bike, of course. When talking Watts, what about groupsets and wheels? I saw a test which shows Dura Ace Di2 has the advantage of efficiency over SRAM Red AXS of 5 watts in 300 watts of effort. Then, on an emotional level, there is the panache factor; to me some bikes, however well integrated are just ugly, others are beautiful.
@Fastfitnesstips3 жыл бұрын
Did you see that we analyzed every bike in this list and 100 others for value weight aero characteristics (yes including the wheels). However I did miss that groupset aero effect....can you find me the link? Cheers
@pauladams56733 жыл бұрын
@@Fastfitnesstips Yes but most Engineers or cyclists, for that matter, would not call your spreadsheet "analysis". You rather missed my point, which was there are much more important factors that what you are trying to do with your spreadsheet... like mechanical engineering design, the choice of groupset. Have a look at bottom bracket design and evaluate that, your sort list would look very different.
@DCRUZ5473 жыл бұрын
Currently have the SL4 and am planning on going to the Sworks SL7. I love these!!
@durianriders3 жыл бұрын
Sl7 is a slug. My sl4 got stolen and sl7 sent as replacement. I don't want it at all.
@parenthlete3 жыл бұрын
@@durianriders sorry dude this guy is a proper honest and knowledgable reviewer
@YurexAlessandro3 жыл бұрын
what do you think about cannondale systemsix? love your videos! cheers!
@Fastfitnesstips3 жыл бұрын
2020 version, slick! But maybe a little overcomplicated and a touch heavy
@gmsagolil34963 жыл бұрын
Giant TCR for my number 1 simple and light. Tried other bike brands no comparison.
@waynesmith45893 жыл бұрын
totally agree , brilliant bikes .
@ayrtonnathan68303 жыл бұрын
scott addict, specialized tarmac sl7, scott foil, trek madone, trek emonda
@markrskinner4 жыл бұрын
A refreshing change. Excellent.
@outdatedoutdated91423 жыл бұрын
Does your standing change now that the Aeroad is essentially doomed to fail with it's horrible seatpost issue?
@genxlife96503 жыл бұрын
Good objective comparison. I think the challenge with these is still personal preference. If you value looks I think Pinarello wins hands down… other might like the look of something else… and so the debate continues. Great video.
@ecesign14 жыл бұрын
The bike industry is in many ways similar to the shoe or sunglasses industry. They figured out long ago that people will pay ludicrous amounts money for image and prestige. If it’s about objectivity, we’d all be wearing crocs or flip flips for comfort instead, we see some women putting up with excruciating pain to fit into stylish shoes.
@evertonyoung40314 жыл бұрын
I actually agree with you on the Cannondale, the only thing I don't like is durability if you crash
@mikeypalmer39774 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review. All the top bikes will be nice as you mentioned and there will only be a few watts between them. Frankly all new bikes are way too expensive. A decent secondhand bike in my view is good enough. Let your legs do the talking rather than your bank account.
@kamilpisko30332 жыл бұрын
how many km you use all bikes?, Canyon e.g. sorry but my friend had accidentally, because newest aero Canyon Sram about 10000euro vibrated on 50km/h and more, expert evaluate it as frame softness .. I have never seen vibrate Cervelo, Pinarello or BMC . Thank you
@PhillRS4 жыл бұрын
No Giant's???
@FPLMikkel3 жыл бұрын
How come tarmac is rated higher than the Venge? Also worth noting that the S5 did two solo breakaway wins at Tdf. Aero probably helped that quite a bit!
@scottn.97773 жыл бұрын
You hit it on the head about speed. I am new to road biking and love the design of some of the bike's which are really a piece of art. I am shopping right now for that "right bike" but I keep hearing components, groupset, wheels etc and most of all speed speed and getting 3-5 seconds increase in speed ..was a WOW then WTF we doing biking buying by seconds in speed advantage? Got friends buying bikes in the $3k, $6k then $10k+ really? I am just looking for decent (carbon) frame (15-17lbs), aesthetic and great looking design, right groupset & wheels EVERYTHING else i think it is in the legs and riding experiences. Unless i am in biking to win some $$ I will have my bike custom and money is not an object for the ideal bike. Glad i found your vid bc now I get to narrow my shopping list. ;). If anyone wanted to pitch a bike to sell I am open to it. ;)
@Marlesden2 жыл бұрын
Hi, please help. I've been wanting to buy the new ribble ultra slr but I swear, THERE IS NO UNBIASED REVIEW ANYWHERE Please tell me your thoughts
@wsguntoro39854 жыл бұрын
2021 giant tcr advanced 2 is good enough for me
@jaymueller24183 жыл бұрын
I just got a 2021 TCR. Should have ridden it more first. Terrible handling.
@Dee-Ell3 жыл бұрын
@@jaymueller2418 Literally the only guy who claimed this.
@dabok24 жыл бұрын
If you build an all round bike, would you focus on aero or light weight? Can you list top, middle n low end suggestions for all rounders bike..
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
What price range? It depends on your riding style....but imho try to build a.bike with both aero and light weight
@dabok24 жыл бұрын
@@Fastfitnesstips Budget around 5k full bike for mid range n 3k below for low end
@GarrettMacDonald3 жыл бұрын
This is the least scientific evaluation and the worst review I've seen on the Superbike category
@jochem19863 жыл бұрын
Indeed. This guy is just another narcissist populist.
@Fastfitnesstips3 жыл бұрын
@@jochem1986 yeh! fame at last! I can wait to see if this boosts my popularity, alongside my other narcissistic populistic friends!
@Fastfitnesstips3 жыл бұрын
Garrett, Cannot wait until you post the links to the best ones......(1 month passes).....
@garrettsmith82863 жыл бұрын
Not all Garrett's think alike & not all people need a scientist to hear the truth.
@JogBird4 жыл бұрын
the worst is the new Emonda... the mid range bikes are heavier than gravel bikes and are in the high end ht mtb range
@thevirtualeconomy4 жыл бұрын
Such a shame, given previous generation was known for being light. Yet I bet it's still selling like hotcakes as it's jumped on every bandwagon, more aero/ disc only and wider tyres (basically a Madone now). Those buying it for climbing or quick accelarations will be in for a shock.
@DynamiteDB3 жыл бұрын
The bike I would love to get is a Merida Reacto. I know it doesn’t stand up against these bikes but damn it’s a very nice bike that isn’t extremely overpriced. The Scultura Endurance 7000e is very nice also.
@jaredstrauss6174 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the Parlee RZ7?
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
Innovative features but 8kg? www.cyclist.co.uk/reviews/7251/parlee-rz7-review
@triggamusician2 жыл бұрын
I am a little surprised by the weight of all these bikes. Most of them are in the 7-8 kg range and that is with the lightest groupsets, carbon fiber frames and no pedals. My 2012 aluminium bike with an Ultegra groupset and pedals weighs in at 8.4 kg. Take off the pedals and add Dura Ace parts and I'm looking at sub 8 and that bike was only €500 used 2 years ago.
@Camslam42 жыл бұрын
Because disk brakes are heavier than rim brakes. Before disk brakes came along all major teams were pushing the uci bike weight limit at world tours for marginal gains and added weight in more preferred locations. Now they’re no where near. Hence uae and Ineos still using rim brakes on bike climbs
@dainiusvysniauskas2049 Жыл бұрын
@@Camslam4 At Dura ace level difference between rim brakes and disc brakes is approx. 350-400 grams. The bikes would be over 7kg regardless of what brakes they have. Deep section wheels, aero optimized tubing, handlebars have just as much of impact on weight.
@nerigarcia71162 жыл бұрын
Aside from the integration I prefer the Tarmac SL6 over the SL7. I also have a BMC SLR01 and that is an incredible bike in looks and performance. Not the lightest but great for the flats and rollers. When it the road goes up I use my SL6.
@Diego.fromheaven2 жыл бұрын
Bro, u have some serious money than if you can choose between an SLR01 and a SL6
@jameshoward97004 жыл бұрын
Interesting thoughts and welcome data manipulation. We all need to stand up and push back at the bike industry's BS. But engineering engineering engineering. Surely we need a bit more on the price of cable integration and other 'innovations'. Yeah, we all love the looks and theoretically it makes a very marginal aero gain (mostly offset by the discs and weight), but is it worth the price? That Cervelo S5 is bordering on criminally negligent. The Cannondale can't turn its bars either. Ever noticed how many Canyons loose their stem/forks in pro bike crashes? Ovalising (and not reinforcing) the front of steerer tubes to cram in hoses/cables (many makes)? Clamping brake hoses in too-tight radiuses at the stem (Specialized et al)? Increasing the head tube (most aero affecting tube) size to integrate cables (Scott)? Ever put these bikes in a bike box? A car? The list of terrible, dangerous, marketing led engineering in the bike industry goes on and on. The customer and the hospitals pick up the bill. But is it any wonder when well engineered bikes such as the Giant TCR/TCR SL (lightweight) , Colnago C series (all around) or 3T Strada (aero) get little coverage and don't seem to play well with your data weighting? How about a category in your spreadsheet for durability: 'would you like your bike to survive a light crash' or ' rate the importance of your bars remaining attached to your bike after hitting a pothole?' Unless you race or ride regularly at 40KPH+, aero footling beyond position, clothes, helmet and wheels makes no significant difference. That you identify the difference between best and worst as 2 water bottles really helps demonstrate this. ie Naff all. Ride more. So well done with the work so far, but I think a measure of real world relevance would be useful.
@firstname77803 жыл бұрын
James Howard, agree with 98% of your points, except Giant. Not only do they lack personality, but their garbage wheels nullifies any argument. I easily pass at 37-42 km hr on a 2012 design Columbus monocoque any 2019-2020 Giant TCR which is a shame. Whatever they did, good materials, but mediocre handling and performance...I also owned successive Giants and at equal built and wheelset, they are slower than my italian endurance non aero columbus! rear stiffness offset from front, and they just prematurely tire the rider ...
@praseemkulshrestha5692 Жыл бұрын
What do you think of the giant propel ?
@stefankucera23904 жыл бұрын
that cervelo is super looking and performing bike. Hirschi will tell you👍
@markborone4 жыл бұрын
it is a fantastic performing bike, but if you let the front wheel swing round then the stopper starts to cause delamination of the carbo fibre in the head tub which is a serious issue
@happydays81714 жыл бұрын
Haha, thought he had stage 9 on an R5.
@xaviervanhoorebeke22924 жыл бұрын
Anyone ever think about pro riders switching teams and thus also switching bikes (as they need to follow the team). They do not stick with the bike because they know it’s about the legs and not about the pure technology... We are talking about high end segment. In my honest opinion, this is most marketing talk and not scientific evidence. If not, all pros would ride the same super bike giving them all the advantages...
@christianroberts51324 жыл бұрын
How about the 2020/2021 scott addict and foil? Both have some of the best integration on the market.
@lasemplicitaelultimasofist3831 Жыл бұрын
complaining, but you only covered cube litening aero not the air version. would you still put the air version in as one of the worst super bikes?
@Cycling_in_ja4 жыл бұрын
I really love the sl7 it my number one to bro 👊🏽 I can’t wait to get mine 😉
@waynesmith45894 жыл бұрын
You can’t judge a bike until you’ve ridden it , for me the best bike is the Giant TCR , light , nimble and fast plus of course great value for money .
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
true, but those who have ridden multiple superbikes rarely tell us the truth!
@iamacyclewarrior99624 жыл бұрын
What's your take on the new Fuji Transonic or the Supreme... And the 2019 a Kestrel Talon X Dura-Ace!?
@Fastfitnesstips4 жыл бұрын
New integrated fujis look really nice but weigh in a little heavy (they are in the dynamic list)....but I didnt add Kestrel Talon X Dura-Ace due to lack of integration.
@iamacyclewarrior99624 жыл бұрын
@@Fastfitnesstips Awesome thank you! Isn't it interesting that many of the new models are not only more expensive, but also heavier than their predecessors.🤔... Even in rim brake iteration!
@jacc90612 жыл бұрын
The Pinarello and S-Works SL7 are about the same ludicrously high price but you put the Pin. on the worst list because it’s too expensive and bit heavier (not crazy - adds more stability) but the SL7 #1. I really miss the logic.
@Sills714 жыл бұрын
If you want to see just how much all the "aero" crap means... look at this year's Milan San Remo. The newest, "fastest" superbike= Specialized Tarmac sl7 got out sprinted in a fast, very close finish (where aero should make the most difference) by a very old, very not aero design= Bianchi Oltre.
@tobycolin62714 жыл бұрын
Sills71 I agree with you but from a flywheel effect argument. Thedisc brake bikes are harder to accelerate. The rovals on the tarmac are disc and clincher versus tubs and rim brakes there must be 500 to 600g of rotational mass on the tarmac to accelerate. I know which wheel option I would want in a man on man sprint after a hard days riding.
@Matt-fb5xe4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because the bike pedals itself. Bianchi beating Specialized on THAT given day has nothing to do with the riders on THAT given day.
@tobycolin62714 жыл бұрын
Matt the trouble is no one test the flywheel effect because it won’t give the bike industry the result it’s looking for. You can easily make a disc bike look more aero by optimising the yaw angles to allow the disc to hide the spokes and act as a fairing. All the wheel manufacturers are discarding the flywheel effect Swiss side did an article with gcn saying weight doesn’t matter as once you’ve put the energy in the heavier flywheel maintains the rotational velocity. Trouble is races are won on acceleration at the end of the day when riders are fatigued. I’d take a rim brake bike every time in a sprint.
@Gelatomonster3 жыл бұрын
you need to add some of the latest like Willier Filante SLR, BIanchi Oltre Speciallisima, etc etc
@cowyow43004 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Sad to see all the bikes going for disk brakes. Fine if your team mechanic will adjust them but for club riders they're a pain
@BulletJS4 жыл бұрын
Disc brakes are incredibly easy to adjust
@beksmith63822 жыл бұрын
What do you think of Fezzari’s Empire?
@timetrialist3 жыл бұрын
That 15k Tarmac will be worth 3k in years time. The rest will be land fill except that Pinarello. I'm looking online for a used 8 year old Pinarellos and they're selling at $7,000
@jaredfontaine20024 жыл бұрын
SL7 is crap! It is heavier then the SL6. The best bike is the SL6 and you can buy the top of the range SL6 for a discount.