Fine by me, I always decked him lol

ah damn this is some great news, recently started playing cyber for first time and thought I screwed myself over a lot.

Oh that's a relief! I killed the bastard myself lmao

@@ZedSetoLV Nah even before the update you didn't lose much. Just some epic level cyberware parts. Not useful for some builds and not crippling to not have for any build. Punch the loser.

You can (and imho should) kill him after you punch him.

Lol yh me too

Same. But on my second playthrough I rescued him and didn't side with Hanako. I should have just left him in that building...

Same... And I sent Jackie to Vik, and I didn't get the reaper option

Same

they really should have made it more obvious. hope in a patch that it comes up as an optional objective after johnny tells you to leave him

Hahaha that one was gold

I laughed a little at that😂

Hahah I loved this part

I was told that saving him does something funny. I have no regrets 😂

It gets me everytime 😅

i’ve been trying to get some legendary cyberware. i have maxed out street cred and i keep skipping 24 hours at the corresponding shops but i never see anything better than rare?

@@ethanhuff3438 i haven't been able to find any either. I just upgrade it with parts found by farming bounties and all the random yellow triangle peoples.

@@ethanhuff3438 Cyberware isnt dependent on street cred, its dependent on your actual level. every 10 levels raises the rarity of cyberware in shop. street cred unlocks more cars in the autofixer.

@@ethanhuff3438when i started finding legendary parts was when I beat the game for the first time

I feel pretty happy I didn't punch him now

YEESSSSSSS

I have a question though is there a certain level you have to be to unlock them? I haven’t seen a single one. All ripperdocs are selling the same old blue crap rarity ones. Would appreciate a reply back

@@itschoke Yes. Certain items only unlock when you hit certain levels and then all items at all vendors level up as you level up.

@@TuckBolt you’re amazing thank you for answering my question 🫂

@@itschoke I believe it's level 40.

A mistake I made when the game released, and one I'll be defo highlighting when I do a top tips/do's and don'ts for players returning in the lead up to Phantom liberty

Actually my current build has no 20 on level 46 and it's much more fun than my pure netrunner from the previous game. Why i should get 20 somewhere?

I can't imagine why someone does that. Other than never having played an rpg-ish game and not stopping to think about it for 5 minutes before leveling things randomly. Thinking logically, it's clearly a poor decision haha Or very questionable at the least. I like that you can't respec it. Makes your decisions matter. And you can't suddenly become a completely different person.

@@HiddenStr3ngth I didn't know there was a level cap until it was too late. It's a pretty reasonable mistake to make.

If u max out your tech ability and intelligence you can craft legendary weapons and quick hacks

I like to think he just needs time. like when he tells you to "go fuck yourself" if you pick certain options on the phone then he tells you he apologizes for the outburst XD

It sounded to me as if he was planning to kill himself after that message, which is even more sad

I didn’t save him because I didn’t know. But even when we met, I had the feeling he would never leave Arasaka. “You can shake the rat out of the corpo, but you can’t shake the corpo out of the rat.” I think Takemura just favored one side of Arasaka as he said, there were factions in Arasaka (I think he was the one to say it)

I don’t believe that’s what the message sent. I believe it implies he’s going to end himself. As he says he’s read many beautiful last words from people who have, but his are his hateful message to you.

Well, it's heavily implied that he takes his own life after he sent that voicemail. He's no samurai, so he tells you to rot in hell. You basically took everything away from him.

punishing? no its a reward...

I guess for gamers like Markiplier who try to not do what the game tells them to do.

Johnny's deadpan reaction was pretty funny though. It's a nice addition for a "scumbag" run. This is one of those little things that shouldn't exist, and yet it does.

I agree, Jackie's ofrienda is defo better than him getting some poor mikoshi Engram. Both from a content standpoint and canonically. A contender if I do another 5 for sure!

plus you'll miss getting Jackie's pistol as well (Use to be you could both of them, but now it's just one, which is understandable)

Yeah the entire little mini-mission with Misty in Jackie's garage is one of my favorites in the game. It's got a lot of little subtle acting/storytelling on Misty's part. My favorite being after you find the key to the backroom (the inner door), Misty leans against the door frame, but says that she shouldn't go in. You can CLEARLY tell she really wants to, NEEDS to see inside there, but she feels it isn't her place to initiate. So she refuses, until V insists. But as SOON as you unlock that door, before it's even begun to swing open, she pivots her back against the wall, slipping past you to go in there first, because everything in her is screaming to go in there. She's basically just been holding herself back due to social decorum. She doesn't look at you, puts her head down and just slips in like an otter as quickly as she can get in there. Then to hear her exposition the history of Jackie, is also really well done. It's 100% a posthumous exposition dump, but it's framed in a great way, that feels natural and organic. She's someone that knew him since they were kids, telling you about the memorabilia that further fleshes out Jackie for the player. It's just so well done. Misty was such a great support character, I wish they had given her more direct contribution to the events going on.

My thought was sending the body to Vik and Misty they would prepare the body and break to to mama wells for V.

Look, I agree with you, but I can't do Heroes again. It rips my soul apart man, I can't keep doing that to myself

this this happend to me i choose cold blooded killer first now I got the puppy sh

Put a pax on him. Its great for the cyberpsycho quests since you won't kill anyone. If you want to kill them, just tap them with a sword.

Omg yes when that happened I just gave him back to his original owner lol😅

I gave Skippy back to its owner, I regret this discussion

You can get it back after a while, although without the dialogue.@@youngsavage1275

The game normally does the Nanny-mode pretty hard. For every objective you get a path on the map and a journal entry to follow it. This is one of the few times (are there actually others?) where we'd have had to pay attention. In the little cinematic sequence where the hidout gets attacked we do fall through the floor. So going up is kind of logical.... but since the game normally does all the thinking for us, it's easy to miss the one important occasion where it would have helped.

Theres a reason why his name starts with "Take"

I always got tired of V living for someone else’s vengeance. It’s why I chose the Panam ending. V lives for himself, and goes back to being a nomad (I chose nomad origin). As much as I like Johnny, and it pains me to say, he uses V as a way to try and correct his mistakes from 50 years ago. He’s a ghost full of regrets. A dead man separated from V by half a century. What’s done is done.

@monkeymoment6478 Facts, bro. To me, the creepiest, weirdest part of the whole game is that Johnny is treated by all NPCs (V, optionally, but especially Rogue and Kerry) as an actual living person still... he's been dead for decades, and V just has his software program installed in his/her head. V owes Johnny exactly nothing.

@@Snake-filledChimphow does v owe silverhand nothing? he practically owes him his life, if silverhand hadn't been in that biochip she wouldve died in that landfill.

@ileringo Because Silverhand is dead, bro. His likeness was turned into a software program, stored on a chip, and then beamed into V's head. That's not a person anymore.

Really one of the few that doesn't make you guess where they stand.

exactly....i really love loyal people even if they are my enemies

@@tansinsami6253 exactly I can respect the honesty

He reminds me of a certain character in Phantom Liberty

He was, to me, a modern day samurai story Loyal to an absolute fault to his lord Intensely skilled in combat Hell-bent on redemption or revenge for his master (very 47 Ronin…I wonder why) Direct, always honest, never fond of thieves or murderers Very focused on the question of honor Arasaka never deserved a man like Goro

Really?

@@unluckym3 yeah, it’s not touched on because it’s not known but if you do the voodoo boys quest and play Jonny right (ie not being a total ass and even be quiet) Johnny will later in the game actually apologize to Alt and this actually catches alt off guard a bit Edit: a link and in the comments it’s explained greater kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bqyDrcKKkt-3iWQ.html

@@jackmack4181 hey I’m the dude who explained it completely in the comments with dialogue choices! Damn 2 years pass by quick lol. For anyone interested, open up the comment that starts with “I got this outcome too” and my response explains it all in there.

I hate Johnny as a character, so I don't want him to have any kind of closure.

​@@bunglewungle261 why

That's one of the main themes of the game...friendship and family. If you leave your friends in the wind or treat them like shit, that's it. There's nothing more to it. Johnny is the example of that and why his missions are redeeming his past mistakes.

@@mandu6665 dumb comment

Yes! I like being a good person but when they give you freedom to do whatever, but then secretly punishing you if you don't do it how they want, is that really freedom?

Absolutely. I love being the bad guy but if it’s just eliminates a story line or whatever then I’m obviously going to be good. Let be be bad!

Yeah i am waiting for a game where killing main characters open new arc or not playing is an arc. An AAA game structured like stanley parable i would say...

I didn't save Takemura 😢

Was just about to say this. Yeah 99% of players get the double jump legs and you can easily just jump stragiht up to Takemura as soon as you are able to move after the fall.

@@Zhaggysfaction I did it with the charge jump legs.

I did the same thing on my first playthrough. I wantet to see if it's only a sound programmed so it would seem like they are shooting up there but they were really shooting. Glad I saved him as I chose the worst possible ending but at least Takemura was by my side at the end.

The coolest part for me was after dealing with the guys in the room I activated my sandevistan to peek out of the door and saw the two squads of arasaka guys coming down from both sides of the hallway only to then deal with them in the patented sandevistan user way

I tried yesterday that and the doors in the room I jumped in were locked. Can it be something they changed in some patch?

When i turned myself in to arasaka you get to speak with johnny and he does tell you that V has progressed to be more like johnny while johnny became more like V. Mf tried guilt tripping me on jackie and others that liked me but by that time i personally would rather be in virtual prison forever than let that scumbag take my body. I zero'd myself in another playthrough to spite johnny 😂

Nonsense, that's exactly the kind of decision that gameplay V would do. Placeed wants me to sneak into a mall? Boom, run in heads first Gorilla arms blazing. Panam wants me to sneak in and save Saul? I actually did that. Then went all gorilla arms on everyone on the way out anyway. Takemura needs me to infiltrate an Arasaka warehouse? How about I use the front door, and make Gorilla arms go brrrrrrr. My character also only has 3 intelligence.

I'd say it's more of a merge with Johnny due to him saying himself that you both affect each other and at the end depending how much you befriended Johnny you get the best personality traits of V and Johnny TLDR; I think it's more of a merge than a corruption

​@@janisir4529Hah, that's my V too! 20 body, gorilla arms, 20 cool, 20 engineering, a Nomad with 3 int. I like to think of him as the ultimate red-neck in Night city, he's got heart but I done some real dumb stuff too (not that dumb if I walked away, unlike everyone else...).

@@daili4917 Cool? Ewww Reflex is the true way, air dashing everywhere. Flying gorilla is too good

Agree man

i got the give up ending on my first play though a week after launch, I just sat there for another 15 mins after the credits in shock and and sadness that that's how it ends, I didn't even know about the other endings until after edgerunners.

yes, you are a much better person if you take panems ending and get half her family killed xD

​@@Fallen-ky5bytbh you have the choice to repeatedly remind them of the risks and how there is a good chance that people will die (and even tell them that they dont have to help) and they repeatedly say that they will help anyways

@@Crap_A.I_bird so its a good thing to get half your friends killed just because you warned them its dangerous?....

@@Fallen-ky5byonly 3 people died not half of the aldecados.

@@spritsfal5088 everyones story *always* ends in death. Like, every single story in human history. Its about how you get to that shared conclusion that matter.

​@@spritsfal5088 "There are no happy endings in nightcity"

@@spritsfal5088 You can always upload your data and possibly live forever. It just comes at a cost.

​@@DellikkilleD but didn't he survived in the end? I had option for keanu to leave with alt and let him go back to his body. Although he didn't have much time to live afterwards, there could be something to fix him.

@@runek100 As you Said, V was still gonna die in a little while. on a long enough timeline, everyone dies. thats literally my entire point.

I kind of agree, with my second choice being Don't Fear the Reaper and then giving the body to Johnny. (It can't be the Rogue ending as then it's not Vs choice whether he gets the body, and it's a dick move for Johnny to choose to take the body)

True but also comes with the death of almost all the aldecaldos which kinda leaves the ending bittersweet

With Phantom Liberty confirming that damage done by Relic is fixable, Star ending is certified the best

Yeah, for me "The Star" is the Good ending while "Don't Fear the Reaper" is just the Secret ending. Leaving NC with Panam and the Aldecaldos with the hope of finding a way to remove the relic sounds like the best way out there. Now ofcourse if V just wants to go out like a legend; then DFTR is the way to go.

@@DanakarEndeel you get the Relic removed in Mikoshi either way, you still attack Arasaka Tower with Panam. The issue is that your brain is too damaged by Relic and you're dying no matter what ending you choose (Arasaka ending included). But, we know that Panam has contracts and promises to fix whatever needs fixing and Mr Blue Eyes offered V some kind of deal. And now we know that the damage done by Relic is actually fixable and it just happens that Blue Eyes orders you heist on a place that fixed Songbird while Aldecaldos are allied with StormTech who specialize in biotech and have their offices in Crystal Palace too

Or he could've been the final boss until he got squashed by Adam, just as you're about to decide whether to let him live or not, Smasher barges in and decides for you.

How, saka betrayed him

@@sus45923 and they can easily unbetray him, that's just how things go over there. They already knew he didn't do it, it was always just about saving face. Once it becomes worth welcoming him back, it'd be easy-done.

@@Torthrodhel takemura hate sthem, he hates yorinobu, he wouldnt agree

@@sus45923 he has a sense of superior morality that's married to the idea of corporate obedience. He looks down on you the whole time just for not being Arasaka. He does hate Yorinobu, yes... and? Yorinobu isn't the only one there, and his position as the one in charge is certainly precarious. Takemura wouldn't have come up with the big parade infiltration plan if he didn't think so. I can easily see him trying to put V down if given the excuse - a lowly street merc? It would've been a fun little surprise, maybe depending on your dialogue choices with him, or maybe even not.

The best ending is with the nomads bruh not the "secret" ending...

not specific just dont be a dick

@@HoYuPhat Secret ending is far cooler and impactful to the world

This, specially if the whole idea behind it is getting high relationship with Johnny; then when I read a guide, one of the crucial moments you have to pick a couple of rude dialogue actions, and only those work, if you pick options that arent antagonizing him, the whole thing will fail. It makes zero sense.

I made every single one of these choices on my first play through. I really disliked these characters and how they were just using me for their own ends. I was trying to role play in an action game, and rather than sending ripples, I just lost out on content, or had the story be more hamfisted and less impactful because certain characters weren’t a part of it. Having a relationship with Johnny is Stockholm Syndrome. He’s an unlikeable asshole and supposed to be one. He has somewhat of a redemption arc. But that’s from batshit crazy and completely chaotic evil to chaotic neutral. His ego is defeated by being put in a box that he doesn’t fit in. He was so used to living in his own world by his own rules. It’s not that this story is lost on me, it’s just really not what I expected.

I kill him every time, I don't give a fuck what he sells.👍The second time I thought to myself "this time you'll only hit him on his face, he doesn't deserve to die" but my finger twitched when I thought about it.😅

I happened to walk past his shop after punching him, and there may or may not have been a frag thrown through his office door

It is kind of unsatisfying leaving him unpunched. The dude really has it coming. He's not just straight up evil like Woodman, he's just a massive slimeball. Killing him would be excessive but a good thrashing seems about right. I give more of a damn about Takamora than Jacky. I know he's supposed to be your best buddy and all but you really don't spend any time with him or have any reason to give a damn. The scene were you are surveilling the Arasoka compound before infiltrating it where you talk about food, each others background, and a Japanese cat demon is more bonding time in one scene then you get the whole game with Jacky. You are not so much friends, you are more like frenemies. That is the one part I hate about the non devil endings, screwing over Taki, still not enough to make it worth selling your soul to Arisoka though. Though the whole Ofreda thing with Misty and Momma Wells is really well done. The book seems to be the best and most thematically fitting offering.

@@Snipergoat1 Takamora was an interesting character that I personally understood relatively well. It was a shame not being able to be friends with him. But I don't think an RPG should become too much of a sandbox either. Example: A woman who doesn't like cocks doesn't like cocks, you have to live with that. This also gives a game credibility and makes decisions more powerful. It's just his character preferring to be alone and it shouldn't always everything possible. So I can understand the decision.

@@Snipergoat1 Yeah he is pretty slimy. For me it's how he treats my baby Judy, I can't forgive him that 😅

nowhere near NV NV has different option, some are subjectively bad, some are subjectively good for different people, because we have different morals. And CP2077 has good and bad choices. That's it.

I followed the Rogue questline and finished the missions with Kerry, I also had a good relationship with Johnny, but that wasn't enough for me to get the Don't Fear the Reaper ending :(

@@javiermunoz7391 I didn't notice the missions with Kerry actually affecting my score, which surprised me as it felt like they should.

Oh yeah, that ending hit hard. Devs made sure to let you know that you chose the worst ending possible.

I was on very hard first playthrough and I was getting mad at my build so I said fuck it and went with that ending and after that I put the game down for a year

Simp

That ending made me feel like an awful human being Judy in tears, Panam heartbroken I’ve played a ton on video games but none have made me feel as awful as that one And the devs made sure you knew it

I was expecting 'game over, credits roll'. I was _not_ prepared.

can do the same with super jump

Bucks is also the ripper that installed the cyberware that pushes Rose Horrigan over the edge resulting in her killing her sister Juliet who works for El Capitan. Regarding Maiko's bribe...in my latest playthrough, I turned Judy down flat as soon as she proposed the idea of taking over Clouds. It's a terrible idea, with zero insight on Judy's part about how Night City works. Sure, I'm now locked out of all further interactions with Judy, but I saved many lives, and I don't really enjoy the interactions with Judy anyway. Getting her to leave Night City sooner is also the best thing you can realistically do for her.

@@MrVvulf Yeah but Judy is a cutie and then you miss out on that cutie Judy Booty. If you are playing a male V you can change one flag and romance her. All the dialog is in the game. There are only a couple spots where a message or something will say she instead of he but male V has all the lines. You can do the same with a female V and Panam but its a bit more complicated then putting in one line on the console. Haven't tried to get River or Kerry to switch teams yet.

I always shoot him in the nuts with a Carnage/Guts as he's sitting there. Incredibly satisfying to give him his comeuppance. Hell, on a stealth build I straight up crafted a legendary Carnage just to shoot him with.

@@MrVvulf You do miss out on the Mox shotgun if you turn her down (if you care about collecting all the guns, or using it)...but it's also perfectly fine to use the middle option saying you can't help her right now, and her quest line is still available for later when it's convenient.

Judy's message is soul crushing

@@kadenkinsey222 judy is bae:)

Panam and Judy’s reaction…..yh I’ll never forgive myself for choosing that ending

Still better ending than trusting Arasaka

Wait until you decide to take FIA's deal

Same here. That ending actually hit me emotionally, which was so strange cause I'm usually never emotional from video games or movies. A real masterpiece of story telling

Lol this ending was terrible for the player and a little ridiculous you essentially get tortured for trying to preserve life across the board.

It's not that deep bruh

same here it hurt

Good connection!

I just hide in the closet while UNATCO burst in. Paul is still tagged as invulnerable in the code, so he'll massacre the enemies without a problem. He only 'dies' if you leave the building without him.

OH FUCK, YOu're right! I hadn't thought of it... cause he tells you to fucking run for it, but you can stay behind and fuck up the MIB. Nice one.

it definitely is

There's been only four games to date that have hooked me on stories and gamplay that I keep going back to. Skyrim, rdr2, cyberpunk, and the new one is starfield. The amount of work that went into these games to craft amazing story lines and great gameplay is amazing. And cyberpunk is definitely one of those games I'm going to complete probably 100 more times over the years.

i like witcher 3 in a similar manner. RDR2 lacks decision atleast major one and i havent played starfield. A good decision based series would be falllout@@Maineabeast

did you play 2.0 and Phantom Liberty ? i waited patiently to finally play it again, and the game is so fucking good now. i loved it from release on. one of the best games in the last 10+ years. and with RDR2 and Skyrim my favourite RPG of all time.

It’s truly a great game people just focus to much on the gameplay and the release

yes, only that dialog unlocks it, no matter your meter, which is dofus, it should be literally secret, not unlockable but always there but for people taking too much time deciding, like Johnny's dialog suggest, it was my cannon i fixed it with a console command cause the way to unlock it seems tomeh

@@Weiswolfe I agree, the ending is way too tedious and there should be multiple interesting ways to unlock it and not just choose some dialogue choices in one scene and if you choose one wrong you’re fucked

I did the right choices not knowing it has so much impact, I answered as I would answer in that situation. But I don't mind it.

Sorry for your loss

My sincere condolences 🙏

Sending you internet hugs if you want them.

Bro my mom died 2 years ago in hospital. I literally got the same ending with you yesterday on my second playthrough. Something was bothering me but i could not realize. Loneliness was the main reason i thought. But after i read your comment, omg that thing hit hard. Probably this game run was my last one. My mother really wanted me to play this game in her last 6 months. I could not know things be like that. I believe in destiny, that made me played that game. I did it for her and will try to move on. Be strong brother.

I completely missed saving Takemura my first 2 play throughs. Johnny acted like he was dead already and there was no option to save him so I just assumed he always died there. I guess I'm a half-brained gonk.

@@hifromcyn same lol

takemura is an asshole anyway, better off leaving him dead after what he says to you in almost all endings

I made the mistake of finishing the race with Claire instead of going after her husbands killer I never thought she would be that mad at me. Also made the Jackie engram mistake

@@blizyon30fps86 It was tempting to try and save jackie somehow, but I have managed to send him to mama wells in all of my playthroughs. Finishing the race is also something I wanted to do to get more than just vengeance for her husband after doing all of those races

Go to fingers before the quest and get the cyberware then you can punch him.

I picked up his weapon and beat him to death after talking...absolutely no regrets

True. My V is me.

To an extent. I was screaming "NO" and mashing buttons when Jackie went to put the chip in my head. It's the story I guess, but a live RPG trying to get a me as a player to do this would be a game stopper. I put this game down for months after that.

Case of "the game engine may be lacking, but the story telling is on point"!!!

"Awesome" Cd project red development. It seemed logical to go solo to arasaka tower , but they locked it behind 1 flag 😂

Better Saul Call

Saving Takemura only works well with the Devil ending as a Corpo. As you're both former Arasaka employees. All other endings result in Hanako's and Saburo's engram deaths as Alt takes over Mikoshi which severely weakens Arasaka corp. If you never plan to do devil ending, better to let him die in the mission. Unless you just like messing with him.

@@Cugastratos I always save him because the combat is fun, not out of friendship. (The SOB put a tracker on me when we were at Vik's so Arasaka could track me!) I also save him for the same reason I tell Wakako and the old man that Takemura is actually a late night comedian, I like hearing him curse at me in frustration.

I like to save him because he has a bad ass character design that's worth saving.

​@@Cugastratos My excuse is that, with the people he had sworn his loyalty to dead, there's a slim chance he will move on to better horizons. The other option is that he offs himself, which while not ideal, simply means he ends up dead anyways just like would've happened if i had abandoned him.

"The saddest thing about betrayal is that it never comes from your enemies, it comes from those you trust the most."

gotta say, I punched, then executed that goon.

I punched him, got locked out of the sandevistan, and then shot him in the head cus I got mad and I didn’t feel like backtracking

​@@mrcrazybozo2450same

​@@mrcrazybozo2450 What else did he think was going to happen? I punched him when I just didn't agree with what he did to a friend of a friend. His only chance to survive when I visited him a second time was to be useful enough to be worth leaving alive. Hell, on the way up to see him the first time I beat the goons at his front door to death with Sir John - and yes I made sure they were dead, not just unconscious. By the time I'd swung round to visit again the group he sold her to was just GONE, the guy who gave her to him was sliced and diced. That guy's boss was dead. And even HER bosses were dead.

Good news everyone! Punching Fingers is now consequence free in 2.0.

You ok man?

FR tho you good big dog?

Wtf???

The Kiritsugu playthrough frfr

Hes litterally me🙃

Why not just load an older save file and safe Takemura? 🤷‍♂

I agree that it's an awesome quest that seems to start out as one of the regular 'fetch' ones then just keeps getting darker and creepier. It stays rent free in your head for days. I felt the same when I ran the Overlord dlc in Mass Effect 2.

When he called after the first quest i was like “wtf this dude want” then it got pretty deep so i had to help him solve the case and save his nephew and those other kids.

My female V friend zoned him 😂

​@@radek174 oh come on, man! Female V is so much into River since almost the beginning I just had to let it happen even tho I can't stand that guy lmao

Meanwhile my female V friend zoned him, then proceeded to make a toast "to friendship". She did get shut down trying to start something with Panam though 😭

Completely agree. Big Dan Gaming did an entire video on why NOT saving Takemura is the better choice. He points out Takemura would ALWAYS stay loyal to Arasaka in every decision he makes. V was a means to an end, nothing more to Takemura - this is revealed while V is present during the discussion with Oda...Takemura flat out states that if the roles were reversed, he'd take Oda out and deliver him to Yorinobu. Allowing Takemura to die provides him a death that is in keeping with his code of conduct - and all later options are disgrace.

It doesn't really matter, not saving Takamura is still the Worst Decision and him killing himself or Not from what he said at the Post-Credits Scene will remain completely Ambiguous, it's up to "CD Project Red" or "Mike Pondsmith" (the Creator himself) to Decide if they want bring back the same Characters again (like Takamura) from *"Cyberpunk 2077"* into the Codenamed Sequel *"Orion"* because it's still not Confirmed on which Path is the True Ending yet.

What is the bad ending? Is it to choose johny over v to take over body?

​@@runek100 I'd say letting Johnny have your body is worse. I see it as he already lived and chose his path, why should he get a second chance, plus it's v's body at the end of the day.

@@tam3116 i chose johny, he will at least live. And its not like V protest against it.

That’s what I thought! I’m pretty sure you can always do that way just by talking to Hanako alone and never talking to anyone else.

Cheers Tez! One does not simply refrain from punching fingers! It's too gratifying, lol. It's defo one of those 'you probably definitely shouldn't do this but you can if you want to' options that they add in to not force you into a narrative. I like it, it gives the game consequences. It's something Bethesda have become too afraid to do. A problem I had with Fallout 4 is how you pretty much can't fail any of the questlines outside of eventually choosing a side for the end. It's kind've rewarding to see that recklessly stupid decisions are actually met with dire consequences.

​@@SamBram that is one of the reasons cyberpunk is my favorite game

@@SamBram Yeah actually, that's a really great point. Having a very real "bad" or at least lackluster consequence for a shitty decision is brave and important direction for good game design. It's why it's all so excellent.

@@handsomeTez actually, if you go to Fingers before the whole Evelyn Parker, you can get his good mods. You open up the window in the waiting room, go out on the balcony, and come in through the window to his operating room/sex dungeon. He will give you lip about intruding, but still allow you to buy mods. After you have everything you need, you can come back and punch the hell out of him/ shoot him in the face.

My first play-through, I didn’t just punch him, I put multiple bullets in his head. It was very satisfying. Just wish I could have killed Wakako, too.

It was on my list of options tbf. Defo one for a 2nd video at some point!

Wow, I didn't know that one.

I had no idea! My current character's going to win the race at all costs and screw friendship, so he's gonna mess that up for sure.

@@Torthrodhel Nooooo Jane! SAMPSON MUST DIE.

LOL -- I forgot that one. I deliberately won the race rather than follow What's-his-name, as Claire demands, to see what happened. Short answer...nothing good comes of it. If CDPR _really_ wanted to mess with us, they would have made winning all 4 races an Achievement.