sole DAMAGING flying type move that's able to restore HP

He doesn’t say that, he only says it’s the sole flying type move that can restore HP

Maybe he did, or maybe he just forgot about Roost. Either way it doesn’t mean I can’t joke about it

Blaze Either wat he say A SOLE flying type move so...

@@gyro3454 I know it's been 2 weeks but silence

Unfortunately that move got distributed to Oranguru in gen 7

*angry lipsmack*

Scooter Mcpeanuts shall I get the salt? I’m gonna get it anyway 🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂

What about the bag

Ooooh yes that too

And Centiskorch...

Isnt it amazing how given time information can become inaccurate?

Blast Burn dominatrix lizard

Not only Salazzle, but also Centiskorch

Because his explanation of signature move is nonsense, lockstin explained it way better.

Bruh vullaby can learn judgement which makes it not a signature move anymore

@@KipaYumiya I have checked every source and no it can't

@@cactbro oh right, i mixed up judgment with punishment, my bad

@@KipaYumiya lol f

Yeah but it takes up an item slot as you have to equip a plate whereas you could use an actuall usefull item

But it's a physical attacker, the move would be useless on it.....

@@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions Even more reason to give it to him. It makes sense and it doesn't actually effect balancing at all.

Well if crygonoal can learn attract doesnt matter

no, because volcarona is my faouvirte pokemon, and please dont take away its signature move. that would suck. for example: yeah, it totally makes sense for entei to learn sacred fire, but its also ho-ohs signature move, so its kinda lame, why couldnt you give entei just its own signature move?

@@Paulito-ym4qc letting other pokemon have your signature move won't affect anything, except your pride I'm guessing.

What gen and what pokemon? Gen 5 starter, though I wanna get into older games.

Lord Titanium gen 3 Grovile and Septile, gen 4 onwards a lot more Pokemon got acccess to it

Thanks for the info guys. Didn't know that it used to be an exclusive move to grovyie and sceptile.

Leaf blade was never a signature move mainly to promote that gen anime it was similar to blaze kick and sky uppercut for the torchic line.

@@titanium4082 signature move of Grovyle and Sceptile in Gen 3

Technically if it wasn’t tied to Heatmor and got properly spread it’d be the inverse of Power-Up Punch. Power-Up Punch is still one of MegaK’s best moves (until SWSH that is when megas get the mass extinction treatment) and overall is a solid stall/wall break “set up while dealing damage and keeping momentum” move. Flame Lash realistically would be a much more intimidating switch deterrent and would be viable against phase teams where P-UP would falter. Geomancy is good… but phasing will ruin it and waste an item slot in the process and that’s one of the biggest downfalls I see Xerneas usually facing.

@@gameinsane4718 power up punch and fire lash have very different effects though, lowering your target's defense is generally worse than boosting your own attack, esp for sweepers which are generally the types that actually go through with boosting moves. Lowering defense only works on the one target Pokemon until it faints or swaps out, boosting Atk can allow you to run through more than one Pokemon while continuing to boost. Also Geomancy boosts a ton of stats on a Pokemon that already has fantastic base stats, while heatmor is pretty lacking

See the difference, in my eyes, is that with geomancy your spending 2 turns doing no damage to boost your stats, where with Flame lash you still hitting base 80 stab the first time and only getting stronger with each hit. I think they are both good but I understand why he sees geomancy as bad.

@@andrewcullen2527 Andrew Cullen I understand your thinking, but while flame lash has 80 bp it's still coming off a Pokemon with under 100 base attack and other stats that are far worse. Even ignoring that and assuming xerneas and heatmor had the same base stats, moonblast, which is the most common move after Geomancy boost, has a bp of 95 and with Geomancy your special is doubled as well, so after just two attacks you're massively out damaging the heatmor who is only slowly increasing the base 80 flame lash. Fairy type is also far more effective of an attacking and defending type than fire. The aforementioned also ignores the fact many players run power herb which allows Geomancy to charge in just one turn, making it clearly more effective. The only possible situation in which flame lash would be better is if you could one shot the xerneas while it's using Geomancy which takes a lot more effort than stopping a heatmor.

Geomancy Xern has been tested and successful in VGC and Smogon Ubers formats, especially next to Primal Grouson for VGC. Flame lash is never used. There is no comparison

he has never heard of power herb i suppose

@@abhishekverma8303 Some sets even run Fairium Z for the omniboost that comes with it, but most sets just stick with Power Herb. Like, yes, it's predictable, but that doesn't mean there's much you can do to stop it unless you're specifically prepared to. It's like Spore on Smeargle; You know it most likely has it, but good luck halting the inevitable.

@@mettatonex7221 yup you will see it coming but you can not stop it because a good xern user would have already chipped or even KO'd them so called countersp

@@abhishekverma8303 Exactly. Good players don't send out their best first. They analyze the opponent's team to realize what poses trouble for their designated sweeper and have their support mons clear the way for a late game sweep. "Uh-oh, there's a Dusk Mane on the other team. Good thing I came prepared with Primal Groudon or Yveltal. I'll send out one of them first." Within each tier, you will never find a Pokemon that can do the job on it's own. If there is, that's when it gets banned. The best teams are the ones that are designed to cover each other's weaknesses.

But just haze

I see what you did there...

I have a porygon Z with conversion to change it to psychic type cause oh, you know, IT'S ONLY WEAKNESS IS FIGHTING. Not so useless now, huh?

Alexander Martens yeah but then it gains weakness to bug, dark and ghost

@@peterboris3765 lol

Alexander Martens normal is a better type for walling since only one weakness and it has an immunity

JoaoG R This statement is incorrect

Also gamefreak: makes Galarian weezing

I have to agree with Renael Steele here. I was going to point out that you probably were referring to how the move loses its usefulness if you can't hit first, but then after thinking about it I see that probably you should have made a note of the Attack being halved and not the Speed. Because even if you're slower than your opponent, they can and probably do have full health by the time you attack them, so that isn't very relevant.

@@reddragonair3147 don't forget Slow Start also decreases the attack stat

@@purpenigma have u got something against galar Weezing?

wut.

@@ytk2508 Yes,yes it is

@@ytk2508 it was also the only Pokémon for a few generations that can learn a hm through lv up

@@KageNoTenshi Waterfall wasn't an hm move until gen 3, though. edit: gen 2*

@@ZKichiro no gen 2

Naahhhh, a Marshadow using Spectral Thief can just whip all those stats away

@@vinchisamadesu But not everyone uses marshadow/psych-up etc - and they all dont have priority, so xerneas outspeeds if the opp doesnt have marshadow out, and why would you geomancy into a marshadow when you know its out? What im saying is, not everyone uses it, and you can play around it pretty easily

@@EinManU yeah, good point

psych up lugia counters xerneas pretty well

@@EinManU yea, but Marshadow is super popular, and you may be crazy not to run max speed, max att on it, so spectral thief yeets that buff away

Lmao was also wondering about that. Geomancy is amazing, just look at its prevalence in VGC

Dankey Kang yeah, geomancy is way better than oblivion wing. like yveltals dont even use this move in competitive battles lmao

@@matri_youtube6683 what kinda competitive battles are you playing tf

People playing doubles in pokemon tournament with an Xerneas with a Power Herb and a linoone with simple beam : that’s true.

Not only VGC. I mean Xern in singles is either specs/scarf or bulky resttalk (veery rare case). Most sets are Powerherb Geomancy. You only need one free turn for a potential moonblast sweep (don't forget the fairy aura making +2 stab from a great sptack reaaally strong). And the is plenty of setup fodder in ubers. Scarf Yveltal (especially locked in dark pulse), lugia (without whirlwind, burned physical attackers (Ekiller), a lot of arceus forms... especially defensive willow defog recover judgment ones and plenty more. A team without multiple Xerneas checks is bad. Groudon can be worn down, sash marshadow can lose it's sash, magerna can be worn down. The best check to xerneas is probably duskmane. But even that has to be careful and can't just switch in and take 2 big hits.

@Renael Steele He can have it, but can't use it

@Renael Steele It can't learn struggle too, but it's because Chatter was a.... ''too special'' move

Morphéwo I don’t think that counts, smeargle is just ‘Special’.

@@animatronicyeet1519 No, he's fabulous

Then technically sketch is the best signature move.

Well Sigintaure moves get changed even after 1 gen for example the hoean starters got thier signitaure moves thought with other Pokémon

And salazzle

I pretend that Gen 8 didn’t happen

Spectral thief is with no doubt the best signature move. It's ridiculous how strong it is

Well I think we found the replacement for Fire Lash.

Yeah I thought spectral thief would be on the list

Geomancy:

I honestly have to agree

Also ignores substitute

Something is telling me that the reason spectral theif isn't here is emperor cubone has never used marshadow

Boston Rush ikr super op and I use it all of the time

@@Ryno12345able Considering MandJTV didn't even know the move existed until some time ago I think it might be the case

Even without power Herb, you can use Geomancy, it's not like you're going to die with two hits without doing the right set ups.

You know that you could use the power herb on oblivion wing

@@godwinmbata5117 And would do nothing because Power Herb skips charge up turns.

Emperor Cubone doesn't really play competitive, so oblivion wing might seem better.

Without power herb: am I a joke to you?

I think he meant moves that drain health from your opponent

@@DracoX-hz3tu Doesnt really matter what he meant. Its what he said and it's a joke, so who cares.

@@aaronyayger wise words

I used to do that

Me who doesn't go competitive and just likes to get as much coverage as possible on a single pokemon:

Geomancy is better (arguably only because it can be fudged with held Items), but don't sleep on a Flying-type Giga Drain, Oblivion Wing deserves mad respect.

@@autobotstarscream765 yes oblivion wing is insane but the thing is geomancy is even more insane

why

I'd say those jokes were Exeggcuted well

eggxplain how.

solukisina Meyer eggxactly

Do you think he was close to cracking

How much you want to bet he cracked under the pressure

I know what you're thinking about

What about splash?

Yall are forgetting about growl

@@cdb2157 what about celebration

I think it's Cut, Kartana's signature move. Oh wait, Farfetch'd can learn it in Let's GO. It's not a signature move then. :(

This came out before it got it in gen 8

@@dakotamilner6475 no it got it in gen 7

Farfetch'd got First Impression as an egg move in USUM. A few other Pokemon, including Falinks and Trapinch, got the move in SwSh.

someone specific

thatd not a ditto knowing the move

Ditto is not the only one that can use transform via level up

@@tiagocardosom yup. Ditto gets its at level 1, mew gets it at level 80 in Gen8

I prefer Earthquake. 100% accurate moves are so valuable

@@infinitethunder6184 everyone just bows to da power

Precipice Blades is a little underwhelming given its accuracy, that it’s not considered essential in either major formats of competitive, and that Thousand Arrows, another physical ground move, is one of the best attacking moves in the game. It’s definitely a great move but not the very top.

It sucks that you have to run Hone Claws if you want to have a good accuracy and you can hold wide lens or zoom lens but you can’t use Primal Groudon, so just get one from a generation with Groudon and the TM for Hone Claws

@@koitern8785 Especially when that's literally what Stone Edge is.

You just woke up? It's 5 pm for me XD.

@@banhammer9991 in england it 13:17

It’s 7 for me

7 am

You guys are waking up early?

Yeah, I basically just disqualified anything that wasn't 100% accurate. That may not be totally fair, but at the same time, the "best" move shouldn't miss in a pinch and lose you the battle...

here wasn't V-Create why that's so Ohhhh

@@destroysword0567 V-Create is also not signature because both Victini and Rayquaza can learn it.

@@matchanavi Rayquaza can't learn it, V create ray is an event mon

@@msrodrigues2000 v-create is an event move, period. by your logic, victini doesn't learn it either.

Purple-Smart Heart sadly not exclusive as both Dracovish and Arctovish learns it. But in ancient times, whatever the original ‘vish Pokémon would’ve had it as an exclusive

that not signature

Fishious rend is really good But not a signature move (Dracovish, Arctovish)

@@yassinegrira2339 with max geyser makes rain and choice band..

@@yassinegrira2339 *Trick room

We have Electrify as well not being signature anymore

Wring Out is also a special move.

At least with wring out, the damage loss makes sense.

@@HeelDashing not really since the more healthy you are the more you can fight back

@@kratosorokai1546 the more damage you take, the more desperate you are to fight back

@@infinitethunder6184 yeah i can see that

Haxorus can learn it too

Farfetch’d gets that as an egg move but in Gen 8, Farfetch’d got a Galarian form that can evolve.

now durant can too!

Falinks can learn it + the trapinch evolution line + hanxorus and its line.

to everyone still replying this comment was made before Sword and Shield i know there are new First Impression users I don't need to know who

Azurill has it, right?

And Hoppip. And Spoink... And Buneary... And Bounsweet... And Cosmog... There's actually a lot...

@@emperorcubone never really knew about most of those, thanks for the info

that's because splash is called "hop" in japan...

@@bojance1978 yup, it was just called splash in gen 1 because it only belonged to magikarp which is also a reason why splash is a normal-type move and not a water-type move

taunt

@@Causticc good point, but I really think items should be taken into consideration

@@ScourgeTheGreat Do you play Taunt on every Pokémon and everyone of them is faster than Xerneas? - No? I guessed so, and if you taunt it once, it will just be retrieved and has a chance the next time it enters the battlefield.

Caustic even so it’s still a great move and definitely the best stat upgrade move

You can encore xerneas into geomancy

Its easy to see coming I guess...

@@infinitethunder6184 so? what you gonna do switch out the pokemon you probably spent turns setting up?

@@abhishekverma8303 it's that or give the boosts to marshadow

@@infinitethunder6184 I mean considering the whole point of the move is to get rid of the stat changes, switching out is just doing It a favor and taking a free hit

Abhishek Verma if it means stopping my opponent from pulling an uno reverse card on me, HECC YES.

tbf he's right about it being easily anticipated, but like, it's easily anticipated because it's so busted.. 99% of xerneas you see run power herb geo lol -- as opposed to oblivion wing, which many yveltal don't even use :X though if he included hackmons: yeah oblivion wing triage m rayquaza is dumb

@@konchu5221 ....i have never seen a yveltal NOT run oblivion wing. But even if that was true, there really isnt much counterplay to geomancy unless you have some really hard checks, most of which are bad in Xern's tier with the exception of Lugia which rarely runs whirlwind (And gets 2 shot anyways assuming your switching in.). That alone makes it better than oblivion wing which is also ridiculous to counterplay, but that's another story.

One word. Haze.

@@chriscasas5009 you still have to not die to use haze

Never.

Eggcellent

They didn't crack me up

Shut up or I’m gonna crack you all

Paul Barnes they weren’t too good but OMLETTE funnier with my egg puns.

Apparently, because of Smeargle they have to make it fail on every other Pokémon besides Darkrai. But for some reason, they had to lower the accuracy.

Lowers your defenses though, it's basically a flying type close combat

Honestly they should've been Ground over Normal anyway; they're found in the desert...

Yeah but it would have to have a cooldown of like 1 wave or it could be a great stall in competitive battles if u get toxic on em

Ground or maybe Dragon.

Sketch isnt that good You have to hope that the opponent uses a good move, smeargle has to survive that move and then keep that move forever. You probably wont even get STAB

Infinite Thunder do you even have to survive it? Just switch in after they use it and bam! You got barrage on it forever

@@infinitethunder6184 yes but sketch is the only thing that keeps smeargle from being absolutely useless

@@blacephallic398 bro, wobbufet is a very good competetive pokemon but it is very gimmicky. Ditto is useless on his own, being good only because of tranform. And you are saying that smeargle relying on sketch is bad?

We know

Jeez this was a year ago

@@noobmaster-yx7de Yeah, time passes the second you stop looking

What if you wanted to belly drum but god said S P E C T R A L T H I E F

These poketubers never bother to play showdown...

Just arguing for Cubone's sake here (though I personally agree) that perhaps he's going based off the fact that Spectral Thief is just a somewhat above average move until the target raises their own stats. Since I'm unfamiliar with the newer games, does it also steal negative stats? Granted, even if it does, you wouldn't want to use it in that situation, but...

thechannel 152 Spectral thief only gets stat boosts. It will leave certain stat boosts alone if the user already has fully boosted that certain stat, though.

@@Pigninjius thanks for the help!

It is underrated but malamar always runs superpower to get stat boosts. Why sacrifice a move slot to lower stats when you already can OHKO the foe with your stat boosts?

@@NazimUddin-we5tv That's kinda counterintuitive though...

@@NazimUddin-we5tv Malamar usually uses Contrary to abuse moves like close combat to gain buffs, you wouldn't really want to use topsy-turvy to reverse your own buffs.

@@NazimUddin-we5tv Yeah but it takes up a move slot that you would use for coverage, topsy turvy isn't usually very useful if you are using contrary.

My man

I mean, it'd clearly be a "Top 6," but it would be interesting!

@@emperorcubone very much.

Nah

Wait...isnt that a move for renamon in digimon?

@O Lobinho Encapuzado Thousand Arrows is a ground move... And lets be honest... Pokemon makes no sence

Don't take his opinion very seriously it's obvious that he's not even considering the competitive side of things. I'd be fine with that of it weren't for the clickbait title, instead of best it should have been favorite. Haven't finished watching yet and I know sketch, thousand arrows, dark void, geomancy, and specteral thief isn't even on the list despite half these pokemon only being much more viable because of the signature move with marshadow being the only real exception(notice how after dark void nerf Darkrai immediately stopped being a theat in ubers)

@@petelee2477 dark void got nerfed hard in gen 7. 50% accuracy. Geomancy. Power herb helps, but: Taunt, encore, spectral theif. Spectral thief should've been on there, I agree. Thousand arrows was on there, don't jump the gun.

Also, something to add on .__. Electrify is extremely situational, as you just said. Could work with Volt absorb. Or lightning rod. That'd make it better as well.

@@titanium4082 Taunt isn't a counter to geomancy because Xerneas can simply switch out, keeping power herb intact to use at a later point. Encore doesn't work unless used by pokemon with prankster, most of which are terrible in competitive (the best being Whimsicott). Spectral thief is another signature move, but a max speed Marshadow can't outspeed a +2 Xerneas and gets OHKO'd by moonblast. Realistically, the only true counter to geomancy Xerneas is a phasing move like roar or whirlwind, which started to be used by Groudon and Lugia respectively only after Xerneas was introduced. So geomancy was so powerful that it changed the best set on two pokemon, literally shifting the meta. And even if you counted all of that, a signature move that has only four theoretical counters, one of which is exclusive to one pokemon, sounds pretty overpowered to me.

bruh

GOOD LORD, THAT'S TERRIFYING

You forgot "rotten," and "raw."

No way! I hate the rumor mill that's constantly going. I don't even want to hear anything until it comes in an official trailer from the company, I don't want it spoiled...

@@emperorcubone that's my man!

Pokemon Swish... lol

Heatmor is actually kinda cool-looking. I think that what holds it back is that its stats are an absolute trashfire. It has two moderately high attack stats (only one of which you'll usually need) and awful everything else. If it dropped one of its attack stats and instead invested these stats into speed, or defense, or anything, it might have been a decent mon, as it stands it has nothing to back its *only sort of decent* attacks

That's the real deal marshadow rules!

@@Alpha093 also the reason why he got insta-banned to Uber's

that's really not the only reason

@@wesuckatgames9549 Sure, technician shadow sneak and hp ice are nice but without spectral thief marshadow could be as low as RUBL

Ian Harmon you really think that? 125 base attack and speed, setup moves, a powerful signature z-move, unresisted STAB combination, priority that conveniently eliminates anything faster after minimal chip, and several viable items? RUBL? do you hear yourself?

Mat Block isnt a signature move cause in gen 7 Throh is able to learn it so mat block isnt greninja's signature move anymore

King's shield is ridiculous yeah

lol

Not gonna lie gardevoir used trace on my regigigas i died

Good eye!

OH GOD NO I DON'T WANT TO REMEMBER

Surround Wand is an absolute blessing in that fight.

Really?

Dont forget centiskorch who makes even better use of it

Heatmor: heatmor Centiscorch: the cooler heatmor