TOP DPS Build in New World⬆️🩸The one and only Flourish and Finish fully explained🩸

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8 ай бұрын

In this guide I tried to explain as fast as possible the one and only Bleed Rapier build. Everything that you need to know and to pick up the strongest DPS performer in PvE.
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@ftdf84 8 ай бұрын

I’ve been running this since I watched this video. Just wow on how much damage is capable. I love it. I’m a healer main but this build has been added to my gear lists. Thanks.

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

Glad that you like it :) Also nice to have some variety builds when you get bored from your main ;)

@darwinb718 3 ай бұрын

well... seing this so early in the morning.. all i can process right now is max bleed, best dps.. gonna DL this and go back later... thanks!!!! here's my sub. i know you're explaining it well... i guess i just need coffee. cheers!

@drshepherd6567 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for that good video! Great job!

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

Thank you too :)

@Google_Censored_Commenter 8 ай бұрын

If you wanna go an alternate route, replacing flurry with evade is also an option. With animation cancels you can escape a lot of long animations, which leads to more attacks, and shorter cooldowns overall. For my build with refreshing move, a typical combo will be tondo - evade - light - light - tondo, etc. Omnidirectional evade is bugged atm, but when it hopefully gets fixed, this variation allows you to enjoy 10 - 20 increased bleed damage too. Finally, I think your attribute distribution is wrong. Sure, you get a bit more base damage on rapier going 275/275 - but what about your ice gauntlet? That's gonna be losing out way more than whatever your small gain is on the rapier. And then we get to the attribute bonuses. Are you really gonna pass up 15% ability damage (both weapons!) and effectively a flat 5% damage increase, by neglecting going 350 int? That just can't be right in my opinion. 90% of the time all you're doing is spamming abilities, you hardly have time for light attacks.

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

Thats also a cool build to go with the Evade. With it you can self-empower cap really easy and do a lot of damage as well. Regarding the attributes, as I mentioned in the video, after testing a full rotation of the combo with different attributes I got the highest results with my 50/50 split.

@DeqzNW 8 ай бұрын

love my evade spam, ref move in clumps is wild, i run evade flurry and f&f the 3 stacks of bleed from Flurry.

@matt101batty 8 ай бұрын

Is the damage similar if you spam evade with to do and flurry? Or does flourish really mean a lot more damage? I thought if you keep 3 stacks of bleed constant that was more overall damage?

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

Evade build was and still is a good build. However, the damage is not even close. Even if you apply bleeds at all times, they are constantly getting refreshed. Meaning that you are never getting the full 20s of bleed damage. This is the reason why Flurish&Finish is so strong. Simply because it consumes all the remaining bleed damage and then multiplies it by 150% with the Bloody End passive.

@michaeloddershede1530 5 ай бұрын

thx mate ... i love it:-))

@Lidiq- 5 ай бұрын

Thank you too

@mavdoc6668 8 ай бұрын

great video! Any chance you can show your pvp Firestaff Ice Gountlet wich you use during your wars? Would really appreciate it!

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

Thank you :) If you check in the channel there are few videos related to my FS IG build which I'm using for Wars and any other type of PvP.

@PirateNW 8 ай бұрын

Always go thrust damage or keen awareness on the ring. The attribute bonuses you get from int and dex will cap your bleed duration on their own, making bloodletting useless.

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

Not sure about that as the 15% from the DEX and 30% from INT will give you 45% increased DOT effects. If I'm not missing anything else 12s + 45% is not equal to 20s. Regarding the Keen, it's good to have it but there are 2 reasons why not to have it. 1. Every mele attack in the back of an enemy is critical! 2. Bleeds don't get affected by critical!

@ThatProGuy 8 ай бұрын

While it's true that 12s x 1.45 does not equal 20, I did some testing and you will hit the 20s cap from dex and int bonuses

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

@@ThatProGuy Thanks for testing that :) Then we can assume that indeed Blood Letting can be skipped and replaced by Thrust Damage :)

@TristanGray111 8 ай бұрын

is this confirmed? @@Lidiq-

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

@@TristanGray111 didn't have time to confirm it by testing. Was busy with war and stuff. Will double check tomorrow ;)

@diaz9103 8 ай бұрын

isnt it better to go full int and use an aquamarine on rapier? can you tell me whats best for firestaff and rapier. also what gems to use on both weaps

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

If you go full INT you will never reach the same damage as if you split in DEX and INT. If you want to play Fire Staff with Rapier I would still go with Rapier main hand for the damage.

@loukospapazitas6728 8 ай бұрын

Sweet, good work but 25/150/350/50/100 is the best split atm for me at full build! I play with 4/4 Refreshing and Attuned Leather Pants! Thinking of even go for the Heavy perk and 50STR perk.

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

Nice, but I'm not sure about the light and heavy attacks in PvE. If you have enough refreshing and good rotation you should never basic attack.

@Mewziqal 6 ай бұрын

hmm 50 focus kind of seems like an odd choice ngl. Also I think if you're 100 con you might as well go medium and drop your con lower. I haven't tested but I'm pretty sure if you go like medium 15 con you'll do more damage than light 100 con while also having significantly higher survivability than if you were in light with 15 con. 25 str has its value if you're using evade instead of tondo but I'm not sure it's better than just 10 more dex. that is probably worth some testing but personally I haven't bothered with 25 str in my rapier build. and you should never ever ever be heavy attacking with rapier. best split I've seen from testing is 15/270ish/350/25/15 with attuned pants or 5/240/350/25/5 with nimble coat.

@loukospapazitas6728 6 ай бұрын

@@Mewziqal Heh since this reply my set is basically being fully built. So let me tell you that 25/200/350/50/50ish is the best DPS/rotation/survival you can get. If you go lower without a team or curtain debuff at dungeon rotation , you cannot stay alive and if you re dead , you cannot do DPS. That being said and upgraded all my parts to 4x refresh/all needed weapon perks/FnF Artifact Rapier/ IG or VG setup w/Diamond with Surge or Arcane dot and switched health to 4x Ice Harnessing + 2x Elemental/Enchanted Ward. After this only skill keeps you alive. You cannot play on Silence dungeon with this setup(40% loss of DPS). So I hear you mate but 90% of people are good only on theory! I m good on practice so I got alternative DPS builds for ALL dungeons and debuff states. Now I m just on brake waiting for the new Ring. And if you re thinking to play with less CON try Blooddrinker, as most of people do.

@Mewziqal 6 ай бұрын

@@loukospapazitas6728 I’ve used my regular static rapier build in pugs before and been fine. In fact the only time I’m ever not fine is if the group comp is trash or the tank loses aggro constantly. 15/272/353/25/15.

@loukospapazitas6728 6 ай бұрын

@@Mewziqal Since I started play tank recently I ve realized that pug tanks cannot afford DPS like us. So I gain survival more than your 15 con, I can solo mobs and the damage from 25 points on dex+int is like 30-40. You lose 5% overall on base damage from STR on your build. So your diamond works 13% less. You try to minmax and thats adorable. Although I would waste DEX pts to gain CON/FOC/STR perks, I m just comfortable with that. You , most likely comfortable with DEX/INT maxing, but in most cases you cannot solo a boss/mobs/avoid death through kills but kite. My playstyle is more Bruteforce like Hrodgirs, when Tank gather mobs I have 5 secs to level the mobs down. So I m trying to train my team accordingly. Keep in mind that pug tanks have aggro for like 4-5 secs, taunt is just multiplying the aggro through the low dps they do. I got your point though.

@olivierchen5025 8 ай бұрын

I dont really like the ice gauntlet, does bow make sense with rapier?

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

If we talk about PvP it makes sense. However, In PvE you will aim to have the Rapier out for the most part, or around 90% of the time. The Ice Gauntlet is there just to give you some extras and that's about it.

@TheKoekoes 8 ай бұрын

Hey man do you think a Abyss Ice gauntlet build can work for PvE dps?

@jamjarfrez 8 ай бұрын

Nice video, just wondering would hatchet or Void Gauntlet also work as off hands?

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

Thanks :) Hatchet is more of a main weapon instead of supporting one. Void Gauntlet is also nice and would work extremely well, but then the Healer's VG will not have any effect as buffs/debuffs from same source don't stack.

@Justiceandtruth357 8 ай бұрын

Hey man thanks for the vid. So I have a few questions. #1 somehow you have quite a bit more attribute points than me, which is making me super depro, I don't have full 700gs items yet but to get where you are I would need more than 40 which seems quite impossible as I am 696GS. Wonder if I missed something. #2 I see there are moments where you do massive 8k-9k damage bursts of 3-4 in a row... What on earth is that? I feel like I'm missing some important dps info in this game 😅

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

xD Well, there is explanation in the video about all the skills and why they are needed. If you still cannot understand it, feel free to join my discord community which is linked in the description of every video. There you can ask me anything and we can go over the details for the build/s. Regarding the attribute points. Everything is considered with food buff. It gives 40 or 48 points (depends on the quality), so i believe you are missing those.

@elchuchii7931 3 ай бұрын

Tondo bleed -> 12s To the bone skill point (8 in 9:13) +5s 250 int -> +30% 150 dex -> +15% Isnt that enough to swap blood letting for thrust damage on the ring? im using soulpollen with hearty leeching thrust damage because of it

@Lidiq- 2 ай бұрын

Correct :) Later on I've tested more in depth how exactly *To the bone* works, so yes. You can replace the blood letting with Leeching :)

@net4youchannel35 8 ай бұрын

Nice explained! Here some questions: Do we still need Tondo? Because Flurry make the same blood effect. And i don't have the nimble chest - should i use refreshing move on rapier instead of emporer? thx 🙂

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

The whole idea is to apply 3 stacks of bleed and to consume it ASAP. If you run only Tondo or only Flurry, the stacking will be a bit delayed (slower). Still viable option to be paired with Evade. Regarding the refreshing move, it's a huge loss of damage. Main reason for that is that if you have enough refreshing and good rotation on the combo, you will not use more than 1 (max 2) auto attacks.

@net4youchannel35 8 ай бұрын

@@Lidiq- if i use Ice Harnessing should i add an ice Gem on the rapier? or is harnessing not needed?

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

@@net4youchannel35 Harnessing is not needed for that build and never put any other gem than Diamond, as it will reduce your damage by a lot. You don't even need to runeglass it as well.

@trytostayalive8739 6 ай бұрын

what about opal? Bcs you all the time dodge and your stamina never full. In other hand you get all the time dmg and your healt almost never full. @@Lidiq-

@Lidiq- 6 ай бұрын

@@trytostayalive8739 In PvE with good mechanics and group you should always be at full HP. To do that you need to position yourself behind the clump/boss, step on sacred, have the correct gear. :)

@happenLTD 6 ай бұрын

Is this build still viable now in season 4? If not what did you change? Also, how is ice gauntlet comparable to void? Thanks and sorry for so many questions ahaha

@Lidiq- 6 ай бұрын

The build is still viable for PvE, as nothing has changed in the perks section. IG is a bit better than VG because of two factors. 1. IG abilities such as Pylon can be placed and then switch back to Rapier. For the next 45s the Pylon will remain. 2. VG is usually used by the Healer, so if you take VG as well the bonuses from the abilities will not stack. Example is the 15% empower from Oblivion.

@skura_mtg 6 ай бұрын

My friends play ranged mainly and I play Rapier+Ice. How do I get close to them without dying in PvP?

@Lidiq- 6 ай бұрын

Rapier/Ice is really hard to master for PvP. The main reason is the need of low constitution for higher damage. You need to be really good on the dodges and to try approach back line enemies such as Healers and other light users from a flank. Then you should have enough advantage to secure a kill.

@skura_mtg 6 ай бұрын

@@Lidiq- what about 1on1 when they clearly know where I am?

@Lidiq- 6 ай бұрын

@@skura_mtg Then it would be all about the mechanics and the skill level you have :)

@gmacklit09 8 ай бұрын

why do you take ice shower if it doesnt do any damage???

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

Not everything in this game is damage :) Shower provides CC and rend which is quite useful. Also, if you do your rotation correctly it will reduce your ICE cooldowns by 20%.

@atvkid0805 7 ай бұрын

wouldn't it be better to go 150 dex 350 int? there's some good bonuses for int like 7% more damage for targets under 50% health at 300 then at 350 int there's 10% ability damage.

@Lidiq- 7 ай бұрын

Ability damage will be higher but the scaling of the Rapier as base damage and base for the bleed in general will be a bit lower.

@GW2Vids1 8 ай бұрын

How do you identify if you have full bleed? Especially in a group?

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

If have enough experience, you would know at all times how many bleeds you have. I for example count in my head 1-2-3 when I apply them. You can also look on the debuff tab, but as you said there are other bleed sources there as well. However, I'm not sure if other bleeds can stack to 3x, so maybe that would give it away :)

@GW2Vids1 8 ай бұрын

Good point thank you! Don't undertand how they did not think about such things... your own bleed could have a different color...@@Lidiq-

@nierka99 7 ай бұрын

I just wonder, if anyone have a idea how much APROX in % its do more dmg then like hatchet build

@Lidiq- 7 ай бұрын

I believe that there are some spreadsheets with the estimated damage for all builds. However, it is too hard to predict how much as there are many different things that will affect the result: - Type of mobs - Single or many targets - Rends, weaken and backstab

@Kingmagnus_ 8 ай бұрын

What weight class do you want to be ?

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

For PvE as a DPS always light.

@diaz9103 8 ай бұрын

Any good pve build for fire mage and vg?

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

For FS/VG I don't have as it's not that optimal. You will have a lot of problems with mana on those 2 weapons.

@TittyMcTwister_ 8 ай бұрын

The best att split would be 350 INT 250 Dex. 350 int passive gives bonus ability damage.

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

Correct, but then you are not running 50con. On the build in the video I believe I mentioned that I prefer to be a bit safe with 50con.

@EdgerunnersNW 8 ай бұрын

@@Lidiq- You can go attuned leather pant and get 25 focus, u benefit a lot from it if u are splitting ur attributes to dex, int, foc and con.

@TittyMcTwister_ 8 ай бұрын

@@Lidiq- You can swap dex for more con

@Mewziqal 6 ай бұрын

@@Lidiq- you also have to think about your secondary damage. Using like IG/FS/VG/Musket/BB all of those will scale more with int. so even if the rapier DPS is slightly higher with an even spliit of dex/int when you have 50 con, your secondary weapon DPS will be much stronger with 350 int and will make up the loss in rapier DPS.

@patrickholdener4847 6 ай бұрын

whats wrong with me i cant get the same attributes as you ^^ only 250 int 251 dex nd 52 con

@Lidiq- 6 ай бұрын

Are you using a food buff when trying to reach the attributes? Do you have your gear with proper gear score?

@kevinrath3988 7 ай бұрын

what gem for weapn ?

@Lidiq- 7 ай бұрын

For Rapier always normal Diamond. 15% is a lot, so not worth to runeglass it. I believe in S4 it will remain the same.

@adentohir2391 6 ай бұрын

hello can you show your gear with perk :)

@Lidiq- 6 ай бұрын

Hello :) I don't remember what kind of gear I had while recording. The most important thing is that you have Leeching Flurry and 4xRefreshing. All the rest on your armor doesn't matter much.

@arks2428 3 ай бұрын

is dex=int better than dex>int or int>dex?

@Lidiq- 3 ай бұрын

It would mostly depend on your 2and weapon and how much you use it. It terms of the rapier best split is INT>DEX.

@arks2428 3 ай бұрын

thanks

@liljackson6461 6 ай бұрын

What like helmet gloves pants boots should you use

@Lidiq- 6 ай бұрын

As long as you reach 4 refreshing perks, everything else is just a bonus. Health, Elemental Aversion, Harnessing, Conditioning. You name it.

@liljackson6461 6 ай бұрын

@@Lidiq-any perfected gear though?

@Lidiq- 6 ай бұрын

@@liljackson6461 5x health, 4x refreshing, conditioning to the type of mutation, or elemental aversion for the remaining slots.

@liljackson6461 6 ай бұрын

@@Lidiq- there a certain named gear or craft able gear you could use for now?

@Lidiq- 6 ай бұрын

@@liljackson6461 you can go with both. There are some usable named ones.

@Glowcl0ud 8 ай бұрын

didn't they get rid of beloved?

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

I think it can still be slotted as it pops in NWDB with 700GS. Maybe only by crafting?

@Glowcl0ud 8 ай бұрын

@@Lidiq- what gs 700 item has it? I can't find any above 625 when I filter for beloved in items or go to the beloved page on NWDB

@gavinsin7567 4 ай бұрын

😜There is another Top DPS PvE Build that also gets 70K+ in 5s and holds it and if there is multiple targets like 2 (or more) then you could be looking at upwards of 140K+ in 5s, but I doubt anyone will find it especially since it doesn't use current PvE Meta Weapons.

@Lidiq- 4 ай бұрын

Hmmm...interesting I think it involves Hatchet, but I'm not specialist with it. Can I bet on the artefact Hatchet? xD

@gavinsin7567 4 ай бұрын

@Lidiq- I just hope it catches the eye of some viewers and see if people will look into it more. I'll drop hints at it, but I won't ever tell someone what it is. Cause myself and a few others who Ive shared it with enjoy being the highest DPS. But if you run into someone who seems suspicious in Expeditions, then there might be a chance it's me or one of them. Also I will say this is without assistance of another player. The DPS was calculated on a Training Dummy ALONE (not sure if Rend would affect it but I assume everything has a bit of armor). So it's likely it can achieve something higher than 70K.

@Lidiq- 4 ай бұрын

@@gavinsin7567 damn... I cannot sleep now xD

@nielsverschoren4347 6 ай бұрын

Can we have a written guide ?

@Lidiq- 6 ай бұрын

Oh damn. I think that this will be quite long for me. I'm pretty sure there is one by the way. If you search for it, you might find it.

@deadbird808 8 ай бұрын

Am I trippin or are you in a m3 with no buffs and broken pants and helm? 😂😂😂

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

xD one of my favourite questions. I'm using repair kits which repair your gear completely. It's cheaper and better. Also you dont lose value from using worned items and you dont lose durability in Mutations/OPR/Arena. This means that even with 1 durability left you can be safe playing those mods.

@realvorard 6 ай бұрын

I hate this type of video, it's 10 minutes of video just to show a build that would be easily explained in less than 1 minute. It was enough to show the gear, piece by piece at the beginning, to see the perks and equipment and weapons. Then show the attributes and skills. Boooooooooring

@Lidiq- 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for the feedback. Next time I will try to get it under 1 minute.

@JestersD4y 8 ай бұрын

u lier... 2:50 all bleed have diferent timeand ddnt reanabled. cause dmg fron finish different.If what you say were true, the damage from three stacks would be the same. But it's not.

@Lidiq- 8 ай бұрын

I think it's a bit too much to call me liar but I will take it. To simply answer you question why there is difference I would say this. Empower and rend are floating factors. As mentioned in the video the bleed damage is affected by empower at the time of application. If you apply your 2and bleed without empower you will renew the previous but the total amount of both will not be the same. Hope that explains it for you :)