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Top Gear Lotus Esprit S4 Review by Clarkson

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Күн бұрын

An old episode of Top Gear in which Jeremy Clarkson reviews the Lotus Esprit S4

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@jimnelson7905
@jimnelson7905 2 жыл бұрын
I owned the red S1 at the beginning of the video. I paid 5K for it and spent another 5K during the 3 years I had it . It was great to drive but I never got the cabin heater to work (freezing in the winter) . I notice that the original front spoiler , it was like a blade beneath the bumper, which flexed a lot and did not stop the front end 'feeling light' at speeds 70 + , a full air dam has been fitted, after I sold it , much better and more stable I expect. I got 5K trade in for a 16K , '85 S3 Turbo Esprit . I wish I'd kept it now , I wonder what it's worth ?
@FridgeProductionsLtd
@FridgeProductionsLtd Жыл бұрын
It's an S2. The spoiler is much improved item over the S1. Which does seem to catch the side wind.
@astongreenhill4985
@astongreenhill4985 Жыл бұрын
@@FridgeProductionsLtdS2 rear lights and wheels too
@ImBarryScottCSS
@ImBarryScottCSS Жыл бұрын
When you watch these old episodes you really do see how groundbreaking they were at the time. This format hasn't changed much.
@markfox1545
@markfox1545 Жыл бұрын
This is from about 1995 and there'd been motoring review shows for decades by then.
@SVW1976
@SVW1976 Жыл бұрын
Nobody does it like Jeremy. In a class by himself.
@michaelb2388
@michaelb2388 Жыл бұрын
Groundbreaking? You mean by driving cars and saying what they think?
@samholdsworth420
@samholdsworth420 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelb2388 don't forget being cheeky
Жыл бұрын
This wasn't Clarkson, Hammond, (after the first series) May TG, this was the old TG.
@blaketindle4703
@blaketindle4703 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome old school Clarkson review! I love the Lotus Esprit!
@StreetPreacherr
@StreetPreacherr Жыл бұрын
I wonder if he could even still FIT in that car?
@loschwahn723
@loschwahn723 Жыл бұрын
did you see the fiat x1/9 in the corner ? it rusts in pis 😁
@joeking4206
@joeking4206 Жыл бұрын
The S4 is absolutely beautiful. Well done Peter Stephens who improved on the original Giugiaro. Gearbox has more notches than Warren Beatie's bed post. 🤣
@King3star
@King3star Жыл бұрын
I love the 'Pretty Woman' soundtrack insertion.
@gunterweniger8019
@gunterweniger8019 Жыл бұрын
Peter Stevens did the more boxy shaped x180 / Esprit SE .. The "rounded bumper" styling that was named S4 series, and ended up in the V8 ..the one with oval louvred vents on the tailgate, that style was Julian Thomson and his team mates
@theblacktopsliders8190
@theblacktopsliders8190 11 ай бұрын
She still is. I am the current owner 😁
@TheNobleLoyalist
@TheNobleLoyalist Жыл бұрын
I was 14. Walking into the local Five & Dime and there, on the row beneath the Playboy and Penthouse magazines was the February 1994 Sports Car International Edition with a huge front page photo of a yellow Esprit S4 reading: "THE ALL NEW LOTUS ESPRIT S4 TURBO: The LOTUS for Adults." I STILL HAVE IT.
@jeremybelcher1727
@jeremybelcher1727 3 жыл бұрын
Great clip! Looks like the Astra van driver is a young Andy Wilman at 3:40.
@Skiddins
@Skiddins Жыл бұрын
Definitely
@fastasfox
@fastasfox Жыл бұрын
It is....they have been friends since they went to Repton together.
@Soundwave1of9
@Soundwave1of9 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful car! I remember looking at it a lot on my Amiga 500 big box! 😁
@CountScarlioni
@CountScarlioni Жыл бұрын
LOL yep. The LTC trilogy was as close as I ever got to owning one!
@BRAINOUTSIDEROOM
@BRAINOUTSIDEROOM Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid I genuinely thought astramaxs were that quick on seeing this, better times 🙂
@RossetBespokeButlers
@RossetBespokeButlers Жыл бұрын
Haha me too
@charlesvan13
@charlesvan13 Жыл бұрын
That van probably has 50 hp. It will beat a Model A with a sidevalve 4 cylinder.
@Number69
@Number69 Жыл бұрын
10 year old 330d BMW is the new fastest car
@beijingbond
@beijingbond Жыл бұрын
Was that Andy Wilman being the plumber? He's the brains behind the 'new' Top Gear and The Grand Tour.
@Skiddins
@Skiddins Жыл бұрын
Was an occasional presenter on the original series as well.
@justadummy8076
@justadummy8076 Жыл бұрын
He was involved in old Top Gear too
@MrBollocks10
@MrBollocks10 Жыл бұрын
...and the lingering painful death of Top Gear.
@technologic21
@technologic21 Жыл бұрын
The S4 is one of the best looking cars ever made.
@ngc-fo5te
@ngc-fo5te Жыл бұрын
No it really isn't.
@caprirosso3
@caprirosso3 Жыл бұрын
@@ngc-fo5te oh dear!
@ngc-fo5te
@ngc-fo5te Жыл бұрын
@@caprirosso3 I agree - the original poster is so far off.
@ShadowHawk4219
@ShadowHawk4219 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, just beautiful lines.
@MrBollocks10
@MrBollocks10 Жыл бұрын
It's not even nicer than the original.
@Audfile
@Audfile Жыл бұрын
Come on GT7, give us a V8 Esprit.
@ironmike650
@ironmike650 Жыл бұрын
i remember years ago working on one and the rams that keep the bonnet up gave out with my hand still in there there was a massive cracking sound and thought id brock my fingers as it shut properly when another mechanic opened the bonnet to get my hand out my fingers were fine the noise was the bonnet cracking all along the edge
@BasVossen
@BasVossen Жыл бұрын
that makes a happy driver, and a thoughtful car ;-)
@stevetseitz
@stevetseitz Жыл бұрын
Classic Clarkson with his perfect delivery and attitude.
@paulknight1332
@paulknight1332 Жыл бұрын
L818PCL had a valid MOT until 26th March 2022
@NorthernChev
@NorthernChev Жыл бұрын
Wow. His young voice before decades of smoking.
@onlypendants
@onlypendants Жыл бұрын
Call me old fashioned but i personally liked the older lotus with its sharp lines more than the S4...that car had so much more character..
@artmallory970
@artmallory970 Жыл бұрын
Most modern cars are designed to look the same...
@rallymaniac92
@rallymaniac92 Жыл бұрын
@@artmallory970 I think that may have something to do with aerodynamics...
@artmallory970
@artmallory970 Жыл бұрын
@@rallymaniac92 That's part of it, they want to ensure conformity...
@jimiburns6891
@jimiburns6891 Жыл бұрын
For sure. The older esprit with sharp lines was totally distinctive and had a supercar look. The S4 was softer, and in some angles looked Toyota Supra-like
@camberwellcarrot420
@camberwellcarrot420 Жыл бұрын
I miss pop-up headlights.
@lukaszmikula123
@lukaszmikula123 Жыл бұрын
Now Clarkson starts the day with perfectly chilled draft lager. His philosophy is so close to mine.
@leighsaunderson9203
@leighsaunderson9203 3 жыл бұрын
Childhood (born '72) dream car, even above any of the Ferrari's . One day....I hope ! (with an Elan for company in the garage !)
@pippipster6767
@pippipster6767 Жыл бұрын
The car was fast: 0-60 in 6.8 seconds. How times have changed !
@CloakedPerv
@CloakedPerv Жыл бұрын
4.5 right?
@cologne2792
@cologne2792 Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed. In 1977 that would have put it in the top 5% of the quickest cars. Saying that the S4 could now be beaten to 60 mph by some of the current diesel BMW's. Carpe Diem, as they say.
@Captainrave
@Captainrave Жыл бұрын
@@CloakedPerv that’s crazy for the time.
@TheNobleLoyalist
@TheNobleLoyalist Жыл бұрын
The best time that the SE turbo ever got recorded I saw was 4.8 seconds. The best time I ever saw the S4 turbo recording was 4.5 seconds the best time the S4 s turbo that I saw was 4.2 seconds. The thing that I don't understand is how with PS4s chipped it made 330 horsepower 300 stock but a small tweak gave it 330 horsepower and it did not have any faster of a 0-60 time that was not within the average range that the scnes for in the stock S4s we're always getting. And what I really don't understand is how when the Esprit V8 came out even to the very end it's still never had that much faster of a 0 to 60 time the best I ever saw a recorded on a stock B&S free was 4.0 flat but usually the average was four point four. That was just something I don't understand how the hell that happened is the only thing that I can think of is that that transmission is really that bad and not much of an Achilles heel to that car that even with a bigger engine and more horsepower no matter what you the inability to roll through the gears smoothly put all three cars within the same average somewhere in the four-second range.
@Norvik_-ug3ge
@Norvik_-ug3ge Жыл бұрын
Back when they reviewed cars, instead of going on BBC funded jollies.
@bbuny10
@bbuny10 Жыл бұрын
0:40 “It should really have been shot at birth” The way he gets in that jab and just keeps going cracks me tf up
@timallsopp8656
@timallsopp8656 Жыл бұрын
Clarkson at his best. A pitty he couldn’t keep those high standards of motoring journalism and wit and thus reduced himself to fooling about in cars and celebrity on the newer format of Top Gar he co hosted with RH and JM
@kelownarealman
@kelownarealman Жыл бұрын
Newer format was even better.
@briantaylor9285
@briantaylor9285 Жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention Richard Greico of 21 Jump Street and its spinoff, Booker, also drove one in the movie, If Looks Could Kill.
@ericquinn8578
@ericquinn8578 Жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful car.
@eugeniozanda7230
@eugeniozanda7230 Жыл бұрын
The Esprit was once a really nice and effective car, today it's a very desirable classic that still cuts a fine figure...
@JonDurward
@JonDurward Жыл бұрын
I was offered the same year and colour in part exchange when I was in the motor trader. A Turbo S4 in Norfolk Mustard. Got it underwritten by Paul Matty Sports Cars for £17k. Unfortunately the deal fell out of bed but the chance to drive and appraise it was magic!
@Captainrave
@Captainrave Жыл бұрын
An iconic car.
@andrewlorenz3139
@andrewlorenz3139 Жыл бұрын
The Astramax was the fastest thing on the road. Had to be in white though for that essential extra 10 miles an hour. Roads with no traffic on them. I am not a Lotus expert at all. Beautiful cars though. Someone I worked with had one. All I recall was it was like laying down in in, like you were in bed. And I am 6 ft 3.
@robertstorey7476
@robertstorey7476 Жыл бұрын
I always wanted one after seeing those photos of Brian Ferry with some glamourpuss on his arm going out on a date in his white Esprit.
@theworldaccordingtochris4370
@theworldaccordingtochris4370 Жыл бұрын
In 1995 I had the exact same van in the exact same colour as on this video and I was 18 as an apprentice glazier and I could get from Croydon to Swiss Cottage in under an hour on a call out 😉
@ABCDEFGHIJKELA...
@ABCDEFGHIJKELA... Жыл бұрын
starting off a drag race on a wet painted surface is always a great idea.
@jonathanpardoe8722
@jonathanpardoe8722 Жыл бұрын
If hindsight could e bottled , I would as head of British Leyland , have bought Lotus to use as the sports upmarket image and never ever bothered with the TR7 . The Stagg with the Rover lump would have been the flagship and the Jensen would have been the exclusive rop of the entire range .
@oneandonlyjaybee
@oneandonlyjaybee Жыл бұрын
Back when Clarkson won The Masters
@Rich77UK
@Rich77UK Жыл бұрын
My dream car. S1, S2 or the S4 V8. I've wanted one since I could walk. But I'm 6ft 5in tall. I can't get through the door 😩
@chironrocket6340
@chironrocket6340 Жыл бұрын
Jeremy Clarkson is also 6 ft 5.
@eddiemanuk1983
@eddiemanuk1983 Жыл бұрын
Clarkson was still funny back then.
@velcingilles3756
@velcingilles3756 Жыл бұрын
Great car! 😎
@WUZLE
@WUZLE Жыл бұрын
When I was at Aviano Air Base in the mid 90s my work truck was something exactly like that Astravan, but I swear it was a Fiat. I loved it, it was like a little go-kart.
@ventisette.
@ventisette. Жыл бұрын
It was probably a Fiat Fiorino
@WUZLE
@WUZLE Жыл бұрын
@@ventisette. Yes! That was it, thank you. The name comes back to me now that you say it.
@tv-cx8gv
@tv-cx8gv Жыл бұрын
Miss you Jeremy!
@pippipster6767
@pippipster6767 Жыл бұрын
Shall we go out in the Astra van tonight has more of a ring to it 😂
@steelshepherd6843
@steelshepherd6843 Жыл бұрын
_"Hit a hedgehog in it and it dies...but so do you..."_ So did I fvcking laughing at this
@chopperking1967
@chopperking1967 Жыл бұрын
LOTUS: Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious LOL
@travismcdowell8352
@travismcdowell8352 Жыл бұрын
Roger Moore didn't talk very highly of car either. I think I'm one of the bond extras in the movies they said that they wanted him to go touring in the lotus esprit. He said the engine would last or whatever heat
@Skiddins
@Skiddins Жыл бұрын
The engine cooling when they filmed in Sardinia wasn't good enough. Good old Lotus lol
@eldodieseltuneauto8163
@eldodieseltuneauto8163 Жыл бұрын
rear lights are from the Toyota AE86
@prun8893
@prun8893 Жыл бұрын
"Asstramax" Sounds like a high viscosity lube for sale in the lobby at your local San Francisco bath house.
@JolteonRacer
@JolteonRacer 7 ай бұрын
Is that Andy Wilman as the plumber?? hahahaha
@KarlHamilton
@KarlHamilton Жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@MeTube3
@MeTube3 Жыл бұрын
A few years ago these were an accessible classic, now the prices are getting daft. M100 is the current entry Lotus classic. Even for M100 the S2 version can be quite expensive.
@composedlight6850
@composedlight6850 8 ай бұрын
The gear box, it needed a better one for sure
@fortyfour6626
@fortyfour6626 Жыл бұрын
If you are taller than 5’10 and shoe size over an 8….you will hate it. If your checking account doesn’t have $10k in it at all times, it will become a garage ornament. If you aren’t married and over 40 with no tickets or accidents you might be able to swing the insurance. This car has more going against it than any other car ever made…..but god damn is it gorgeous and when it is actually running without a CEL on or a leaking fuel line into the cab….misaligned linkage,bad roof seal letting rain in, door handle falling off, wiper motor and window motor dead, blown head gasket, blown valve cover gasket, blown turbo……it’s a riot to own and day dream about driving! Sitting in it and making car sounds pretending you are on the autobahn is the best part of owning an esprit. Bottom line is the average person can actually afford one of these as you can still get one in 2022 under $50k…..but having the money to keep it and having actually run is an entirely different challenge which is why nobody buys them.
@CaymanIslandsCatWalks
@CaymanIslandsCatWalks Жыл бұрын
I been offered one for 15k
@fortyfour6626
@fortyfour6626 Жыл бұрын
@@CaymanIslandsCatWalks someone either loves you Vinnie…..or someone really hates you. For $15 it’s either got too many miles and issues or you are about to get the deal of a lifetime.
@CaymanIslandsCatWalks
@CaymanIslandsCatWalks Жыл бұрын
@@fortyfour6626 the 2.2 50,000on clock or less.
@fortyfour6626
@fortyfour6626 Жыл бұрын
@@CaymanIslandsCatWalks oh man. I’m 48 now and my kids are adults and moved out. I have the garage space….for me, in my spot, for 15k it would be a fun build. At 50k, I know it has a major service approaching fast but that could be a fun car. Even if you havd to initially put $5k into it…it could be for for you.
@mitchellkohrmann
@mitchellkohrmann Жыл бұрын
I’m well over 6 foot and wear 11.5. Fit just fine. I also have had two, v8 and s4. Both never cost me more than a couple hundred a year to maintain even with major services. They’re actually great cars if you buy one that isn’t a garage queen and gets driven. Cracked 60k miles in both
@Hypersquid98
@Hypersquid98 Жыл бұрын
id still rather have this s4, than porsche's s4 from the same era.
@robertwieczorek5838
@robertwieczorek5838 Жыл бұрын
Notches then Warren Beaty headrest, funyy
@Greg_Chase
@Greg_Chase Жыл бұрын
My first Lotus bought new at the dealer was the S4s, 300hp. It was in 1995. I've been buying new Lotus exotics since then. GM owned Lotus for many years starting in the 1980s, and the quality improvement was noteworthy. It is not a mass-produced car - if you're looking for a mass-produced car that you'll see 20 of, on the way to work, a Lotus is not what you're after. A Lotus-developed V8 was added to the Esprit, in 1997. This engine has: - twin turbochargers - flat plane crankshaft - lots of torque It is the engine that the new Corvette owners are hoping will be added in 2023. This type of V8 has been available in the Esprit since 1997.
@kentonian
@kentonian Жыл бұрын
Lotus designed a flat plane crank v8 for corvette years ago. It didn’t work out because of how much more expensive it was to make and the americas missed the cross plane noise.
@Greg_Chase
@Greg_Chase Жыл бұрын
@@kentonian Lotus indeed produced engines for the Corvette. I find it interesting that it took decades for GM, after owning Lotus, the maker of one of the best handling sports cars (the Esprit), to come out with a mid-engine version. As we speak, fans of the new Corvette eagerly wait in anticipation of a flat-plane, twin-turbo, overhead cam engine, something available in the Esprit since 1997.
@Abszurdista-fatalista
@Abszurdista-fatalista Жыл бұрын
I think the ZR1's engine was designed by Lotus.
@449Raphael
@449Raphael Жыл бұрын
The lotus V8 is not a good engine. It had many problems…….
@Greg_Chase
@Greg_Chase Жыл бұрын
@@449Raphael It was an extremely small production engine - and it was not stress-tested like, say, Toyota or Honda might do for a 150hp engine used in their mass-produced cars. My v8 is 20+ years old now - have not had any failures at all. But a brand-new twin turbo, intercooled, with a flat plane crankshaft - Lotus Engineering did a fine job.
@scottielambert9312
@scottielambert9312 Жыл бұрын
My favorite car ever
@carlosoruna7174
@carlosoruna7174 Жыл бұрын
I want an astrovan.
@mathiasvelten9756
@mathiasvelten9756 4 жыл бұрын
Its a S4, not a S4S
@RossetBespokeButlers
@RossetBespokeButlers Жыл бұрын
Who else is on Auto Trader looking for a lotus esprit!
@roadwarrior144
@roadwarrior144 Жыл бұрын
Willing to bet “Wild One” song made it into the edit from the Pretty Woman film when Richard Gere’s character was driving/lost around Beverly Hills.
@Zero_Ninety
@Zero_Ninety Жыл бұрын
Gosh it's pretty isn't it?
@Xonatron
@Xonatron Жыл бұрын
Beautiful car.
@MH-fb5kr
@MH-fb5kr Жыл бұрын
Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious… oh how true.
@caterhamsuperlightr81
@caterhamsuperlightr81 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure I recognise many of those roads around West Berks, West Ilsley etc and the drag race I think might have been filmed at Greenham Common before it was dug up. Can anyone confirm?
@gavinvalentino6002
@gavinvalentino6002 Жыл бұрын
Hey! I was thinking the exact same thing, but really different, so not really the same. And I was wondering if anyone was not thinking the same, let alone different! Thanks for that other thing too that hasn't happened yet.
@mickmcgood6543
@mickmcgood6543 Жыл бұрын
I've got a question. Why are there so many old Top Gear compilation videos on KZfaq? Can you make money doing this? Surely this would be a copyright infringement?
@shaalis
@shaalis Жыл бұрын
World's fastest slice of cheese!
@waclosh
@waclosh Жыл бұрын
Is this the man from Driven channel?
@thinking7181
@thinking7181 Жыл бұрын
Recalcitrant. Wow.
@pickering9200
@pickering9200 Ай бұрын
Andy Wilman as Astraman?
@paulhunter123
@paulhunter123 3 жыл бұрын
did we need the astra van reference no
@johnevans9751
@johnevans9751 Жыл бұрын
So surprised Mr. Clarkson fit without slouching.
@kethughes8266
@kethughes8266 Жыл бұрын
nice astramax
@stephenhill6003
@stephenhill6003 Жыл бұрын
What a cool camper van it would make here in the US.
@spana123321
@spana123321 Жыл бұрын
Clarkson looks like that sixth former that even first year secondary school kids would slap and get away with it😂😂😂😂
@MrMrbrianbechtel
@MrMrbrianbechtel Жыл бұрын
No one has the same venomous tongue like clarkston
@bodhi9464
@bodhi9464 Жыл бұрын
Spy who loved me ~ 007 ~ Roger Moore
@yogi9631
@yogi9631 Жыл бұрын
Stunning beauty ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@Chunky246
@Chunky246 Жыл бұрын
He sounds like Alan Partridge doing a voice over.
@marcj3682
@marcj3682 Жыл бұрын
Had the pretty woman version, sold it recently.
@ArchaicHumansWorldwide
@ArchaicHumansWorldwide Жыл бұрын
LOTUS = Loosen or tighten up something. I owned at 1973 Europa John Player Special.. at nice Ford block, Cosworth Head, Offenhauser Intake, Del Orto Carbs and 9,000 rpm redline but everything after that was shit. What a shame.
@steved8878
@steved8878 Жыл бұрын
Clarkson is my spirit atavistic hominid.
@davisandew44
@davisandew44 Жыл бұрын
Like the nod to Pretty Woman
@jasminespencer3992
@jasminespencer3992 Жыл бұрын
Anyone know what year this was broadcast?
@bernardquatermass4418
@bernardquatermass4418 Жыл бұрын
Going off the Lotus registration and Clarkson’s wardrobe, I think 1993/94.
@paulhunter123
@paulhunter123 3 жыл бұрын
a better esprit than the the v8
@emjackson2289
@emjackson2289 Жыл бұрын
Love how Lotus copied Ferrari for the logo on the engine in styling
@CharlieDrives
@CharlieDrives 4 жыл бұрын
at least get the title right!
@sz5876
@sz5876 Жыл бұрын
In 1990# fifteen-year-old version of me thought this is Ron the most beautiful cars ever made now I look at it and they look like such a piece of garbage that's about to fall apart if it goes over a speed bump.
@murrayp4
@murrayp4 Жыл бұрын
Clarkson is a PoS
@Unedited2022
@Unedited2022 Жыл бұрын
Head gasket has left the comment section.
@MargauxKim_13
@MargauxKim_13 Жыл бұрын
Hilarious as always.
@brettmarshall5895
@brettmarshall5895 Жыл бұрын
The English never got the engines right.
@paulhunter123
@paulhunter123 Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with this turbo 4 cylinder?
@brettmarshall5895
@brettmarshall5895 Жыл бұрын
@@paulhunter123, nothing….. I have a turbo 4cyl AND a V8. They are different. And if you don’t know that difference. That’s ok.
@twowheelstouring482
@twowheelstouring482 Жыл бұрын
Makes me cringe watching clarkson with his BBC telephone voice.
@frankjager2420
@frankjager2420 Жыл бұрын
Why does this car look like a Supra Celica from the 80s?
@paulhunter123
@paulhunter123 Жыл бұрын
Shares many parts
@jinpingthebear110
@jinpingthebear110 Жыл бұрын
Back when cars didn't look like shit.
@MarcelNL
@MarcelNL Жыл бұрын
Jesus, it's clear that his way of describing things hasn't changed much over the decades!
@ryiin
@ryiin Жыл бұрын
Andy Wilman lol 😆
@minitanksandchairs
@minitanksandchairs Жыл бұрын
Terrifying
@aleksej79novosibirsk
@aleksej79novosibirsk Жыл бұрын
LOL :D X)
@siouex
@siouex Жыл бұрын
Some things never change, van drivers are still wankers
@richardanthonygilbey
@richardanthonygilbey Жыл бұрын
It’s Coventry’s dream car One size fits all
@byteme9718
@byteme9718 Жыл бұрын
Clarkson sound like Quentin Wilson. That's a very bad thing.
@nalgene247
@nalgene247 Жыл бұрын
Ferociously recalcitrant.
@alanchantiefighterskuanlia627
@alanchantiefighterskuanlia627 Жыл бұрын
A very Beautiful car that cqn put new lotus to shame but with some quality issue. The gearbox is the worst bit.
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