In the words of Nicki Minaj, "after all that surgery and you're still ugly and that's what gets me!"

Couldn't have written it better. She always had an ego, and felt she deserved the elite life. - she stalked and harassed every job,date, celebrity! Even got entangled with Bill Cosby. - i bet he said no! And she kept pushing until she came up with a story she could could tell To seem INVOLVED at all cost! Im sorry that was rude! But Janice isnt a good soul! But nor is tyra!

😂😂😂😂so true!!!!!!

Spooky Glam: 🤭🤪🤣🤣🤣

absolutely

@Jetblue Horizon this doesn’t make sense lol people can still highlight the realities behind being on a reality show

At the time I watched in HORROR and could understand the obsession. Same with Sex and the City which I found so vapid and just could not understand how women couldn't see through the push to consumerism. Just look at how men cosplay women, all of them are acting like shopping, makeup, fashion, designer labels and hair is all we think about. They equate femininity with vapidness and consumerism. Women's artistic expressions are disposable, flushed down the sink every day when the makeup is washed off. That ensures we never make anything for ourselves with permanence - no let's leave that to the capitalists, we'll just keep on polluting and flushing our time and money down the drain to look pretty. Please dear women, spend your artistic gifts on things that last longer than a day and a picture. Please make something permanent with love for the people you love and love you back. It is such a deep token of affection, usually way more precious than a bought gift.

I used to get ready with my best friend and loved it, it was sooo good

@Jetblue Horizon oh my god didn’t think of it that way, that era had the best reality shows, New York, Flava Flav, can’t beat those

@Jetblue Horizon hahaahahahahahhaahha yessss. so true

Because they spoke more positive about it than expected. They want the narrative that Top Model ruined generations of people.

period - is why I clicked on the vid - not to hear them talk incessantly about why looking at the show through 2024 eyes it was so wrong - this breaking down of all the non woke things shows from the past used to do or failed to do is very tiired

Perhaps you just weren't pretty enough.

The girls who understood the show managed to make careers for themselves. It was harsh but also a good opportunity.

I stood on one of those lines too.. idly and idk what I was thinking 🤦🏽‍♀️

Girl God had nothing to do with it the lack of talent did lmfao

😂😂😂😂girl !!! I wonder what you are doing now I hope you doing great ❤

“I apologize if” 😂 like girl thats not an apology

I’m so glad her ass is still crazy as hell and alive 😂

I was OK with the apology, I saw her when she did celebrity rehab. For the record I don’t think that was the best of shows either (hindsight 2020) however, she was abusing drugs that were hard core, most likely during her time on top model. From what I understand there was a change in her after she got sober, by which I mean she stop being a hot mess. That doesn’t excuse anything she did or said, but my take away from it was, she knows she can’t change the past, she knows she can’t write off anything she did during that time exclusively on drug use, she just has to accept responsibility. Plus in the years since she has come to terms with being raped by bill Cosby. As such I think she’s in a different place with regards to how she views the power of words and their impact on women.

I like that she didn't apoligize. People are so soft now a days.

I just thought I was spelling apologize wrong my whole life and had to google it! So you must be from the UK or Canada ey! Am I dumb for not knowing this at 42!?

😆😩😄

Lol!!!

Sounds about right 😂😂😂

I agreed with Tyra at the time and I still do.

@@Lovelyone1 people cope in different ways. Her laughing didn’t make her ungrateful.

Yes I started looking at Tyra differently after that. It made for some good TV but damn. 😬

@@lonelyenchantress2172 It wasn’t even good TV for me. In Tyra’s mind, she didn’t like the way that Tiffany responded after elimination. Tyra’s mistake was assuming that Tiffany’s reaction meant that she didn’t care. When in actuality, we all express pain and rejection in different ways. She didn’t allow Tiffany to grieve in Tiffany’s way. And instead, she created a traumatic moment for that poor young lady.

Unjustified?? She was right telling Tiffany off.

Ikr? They look absolutely gorgeous!!!!

@@hairbytrea they have the faces for it for sure

They look beautiful! So do all of the young ladies. I would’ve loved to hear Tiffany‘s response to her question.😊✨👠🎈

Tiffany looks like the butch lesbian who’s serving prison time for murdering her John. I’m js maybe Tyra was a little right to yell at her. I was rooting for you Tiff!😭

Yesss, it's definitely the year of the pixie cuts for BW...and i love it❤️

...she doesn't need to apologize for a damn thing. All the sensitive folks of today can STFU 💯

@@mariemarie3614 🤟🤟

Why would she need to apologize she doesn’t owe you or any other entitled person an apology 😂😂🤣

smh, it seems there's no right way to apologise anymore ... Whenever someone does it, people dismiss it with comments like this. So toxic.

@@hellyxanhellz1944 she doesn't need to but if shes going to, at least do it right.

Thank you. The show was extremely diverse and she did choose plus size models, but it is rare in the industry to see that in runway. It has nothing to do with the modeling agencies. Brands/Companies typically do not hire plus models to represent their brand because of body/tape measurements. It's the same way with runway shows....designers do not generally hire models from modeling agencies who do not fit the height and body/tape requirements. It has to do with designers worrying about models not showing up to the runway or photoshoot; or a model gaining or losing weight on the day of the runway show or photoshoot. The desinger has to immediately have one of the other models fit into the clothes as there is not a lot of time to make adjustments. For example, if the model gained weight the designer cannot add on more fabric. If the model, lost a significant amount of weight, the designer may have to cut or pin in a lot of fabric and even then the garment may not hang the way the designer wants it to on the model. This is why there are height and and body/tape measurement requirements. It's about keeping the models uniform and interchangeable. It's not really about weight like people say. In fact, if you go to any major modeling agency, they want to know your measurements and not your weight and they post their measurement requirements on their website for runway and print/commercial. I know this because I modeled years ago. I never had to be a certain weight (as weight looks different on everyone). Just be the required tape measurements. Maybe this has changed, but the agency and the designer still do tape measure the models for the clothes. Even for plus size models, measurements are important. They are going to want them all have the same bust, waist and hip measurements. Also for plus size models they all generally gave flat stomachs, and a bust and hip size that is proportionate to their height and figure. Have you ever seen the plus size mannequins. They have flat stomachs. It's like the difference between Naomi campbell and Megan the Stallion. Both beautiful women. One is slim and one is plus size, but they both have proportionate figures and flat stomachs. The case could be made to bump up the body/tape measurement requirements. However, I still suspect even if designers and agencies are ok with this they are still going to want all models to fit that new measurement requirement and no more for the reasons I stated above.

But the production abused & exploited the girls, all reality shows are fucking toxic.

You’re right, that’s honestly the craziest part. Looking back, knowing that THAT was considered diversity/breaking the industry… and still with how problematic it was… phew

You’re right, that’s honestly the craziest part. Looking back, knowing that THAT was considered diversity/breaking the industry… and still with how problematic it was… phew

It showed that no matter what race or size of model you were, everyone gets just as abused and bullied by Tyra Banks

I wanna start watching this show because of her lol

Tiffany had a rough lifestyle before joining Top Model. Tiffinay was asked by Tyra to come back the second Cycle because Tyra believed in her; Believed in her beauty, Believed in a better future

@@lepa2863 well said

I think Tyra was just invested in her and instead of telling her that in private she couldn’t hold it in.

Nah Tyra’s just a narcissist. Simple

@@lepa2863 ?????? She yelled at her bc she is a colorist

Grow up

Yes!! I would definitely watch!!!!!

@@jooson2826 tyra is that you ? 👀

It’s on Hulu

@@lalimichelamusic7066 RSO says what?

Correct me if I'm wrong but was she sexually assaulted during the show?

Yes very chaotic.

Yeah very disappointing, cuz that’s what we came to hear 🤦🏽‍♀️

VERY MISLEADING… they could’ve kept Janice 🙄

You gotta Stream it on theyre Streaming Platform HELLO?!?! Lol

Listen to me!!! I’d rather quit than fall short and be beating down!

Well even back then, Ken Mok claimed (co-creator) that ANTM was created to bring more diverse models yet the show just kept hiring models with one specific body type: tall and skinny.

Kanye had diverse models in all his yeezy season shows in fact he launched a lot of careers like Halima Aden and Alton Mason

But this is the problem, you want the industry to change where it doesn't even need to change for anybody. Gucci, Versace, YSL make record profits every single year because that is the style, fit and look that people want. I just don't get why people feel there that there "needs" to be a change

​@@zazlar4228 🤡

The best way to put it

I remember being uncomfortable watching so many times. But I was trying to support. After awhile I stopped watching. Tyra was off the chain. Too bad

I watched it. I thought thank God I was a few inches too short to follow that dream. It was interestingly foolish. Eva the diva is still ruling on TV though.

unfortunately most reality shows are. Especially dating shows.

I definitely used to watch.

I loved it as a kid

"not trying hard enough" 🙄 "had to suffer severe body image problems" Get a grip. They could've taken those lessons and found success anywhere else in life.

Actually, in comparison to the REAL modelling industry. ANTM was actually unbelievably progressive in terms of body image. I don't think you realise how brutal the real fashion industry is, especially in the early 2000s when these models were trying break into the industry.

Not to mention the fact contestants were not obliged to take part in ANTM

@@SethAndrews111the real industry is way worse than top model

@@SethAndrews111 exactly

This is a clip from a much longer piece. It's only here to get people to stream the full thing on Hulu.

Yup as a teen I never realized anything of it was bad. But omg the way we have advanced as a society and knowing more knowledge on things. We know tf better for sure!

Oh god

agreed!!

Perfectly stated 😂

What a disgusting take, top model did nothing but discriminate and deter Darkskin women from succeeding. There are countless episodes that degrade the models skin color !

Ouch

lmao-

Whew 😩 she was pretty as a model though

😂😂😂😂

Yikes! Haha

The definition of self quarantine right there.

And get triggered and outraged by it 😅😂

To when a woman was sexually assaulted on national tv and Tyra stood right there and watched or how bout the Afrikan model being discriminated against because her race, yea so long ago yet these same situations effect us still to this day every day

So they can't talk about the show now? 😂 you sound dumb

@@codetsfacts2808 no niggi, did I say that? Think before you open your hole & try to be a hero

I too knew back then it was problematic. I stopped watching the season with Eva and Yaya..... I don't think I even watched through the season, my sis begged me to watch the finale with her, and I did tho...... That was the last time

@sunnicalifornia15 yes??

Honestly I had no issues with the ethnic swap for a photoshoot. She was challenging the women to embrace photography of themselves with another image to embody someone else. They captured all the ethnicities well and swapped everyone. Blackface and cultural appropriation is when you make a caricature of someone from a stereotype and do it to earn benefits that aren’t afforded to the actual ethnicities which was not the case when a diverse cast switch roles for a photoshoot on a modeling competition show 🙄 everyone was equally able to benefit and no one was made goofy looking

Sure you can. Tyra gaslit sick contestants for being sick yet also gaslit them for pushing too hard. Example: Natasha having a fever vs Adrienne suffering from food poisoning. Tyra dealt with them very differently when the bottom line was, they were sick.

She was giving them a taste of the modeling world. That’s how it was in those days.

It wasn't revolutionary. If there was no bullying like a typical modelling agency then it's revolutionary. This show was toxic just like the fashion industry.

Something is only revolutionary if it leaves behind a positive legacy of positive impact by disrupting the archaic status quo. Not by leaving behind a trail of unearthed, unresolved problems. Don’t blame society for being more socially conscious now and using history to improve the present + future.

@@lionessstarseed6812 ANTM represented more races, ethnicities, sexualities, body figures, and disabilities than any other show I can think of that came out in the 2000s. It was not perfect but it broke down barriers for the models that we have today. Many of the girls have positive things to say about the show and say it was an overall good life experience, those are just not the statements that get amplified.

Congratulations!!! So many people outside of the models seem to have this testimony and I can see why. This show put a lotttt of people on the map

Yeah it was

Uh...duh.

That show is filled to the brim with ableism, fat phobia, and racism/colorism. Having minorities showcased on television is great but when you proceed to humiliate them for their differences it is no longer uplifting.

THANK YOU

Backhanded support is not support: the micro aggressions against the dark skinned women on that show were appalling (portraying them as ghetto, mean; hell, anyone who looked like Naomi Campbell was under the gun 😂) and I say that as a LSBW.

ya seriously!!!! it was a show hosted and developed by a beautiful black woman and the cast was diverse AF! I think times were simplier in the 2000s we were more connected and free. that show broke alot of boundaries and should be celebrated. not canceled by the new gens. even as an 11 year old wanting to go on top model i understood it was a show and it was more for exposure.

​@J.E. Piper exactly!! Tyra was so problematic to dark-skinned women, devoted a whole cycle to exploiting shorter women, and even that one plus size winner Whitney got back handed praise. ANTM is the poster child for shows that simply don't age well. Like Little Rascals or something.

Not really I think it’s the new people the sensitivity level is beyond high now

We were literally children. We didn't know better

@@jodavitow You didn’t know as a kid that what they were saying might have hurt the model’s feelings?

​@jodavitow I agree. It didn't compute lol.. looking back you have a different perspective.. back then it was just entertainment

@@ineshadixon1377 well no. They tried to paint this narrative of "we are just being honest and we say this things for your own good". Which is an attitude a lot of adults take with children. So, no, as a 10 year old that was a very normalized experience for me.

It's iconic indeed.

It was iconic and problematic… but I’m definitely not trying to go back to the mean spirited ass culture that was alive in 2006! The media was over brutal. Especially to women

​​@@MykelMontana this is what people in the entertainment and art field go through. Top Model barely touch the surface in my opinion watch documentaries on dancers, actors, and musicians it's brutal.

I feel so indifferent. Granted I was 12 when Top Model was entertaining. I dont know if I would have enjoyed it as an adult tbh

Bro... what minority wants to go back to 2006😭

It's not selective outrage, it's called reflection..

@@gladiatorinsweats I think we can agree to disagree, because the same ppl are still obsessed with the designers, photographers, and fashion houses that created such a culture. Reflection requires one to look inward not outward, the real question is why was millions of ppl glued to their television screens making this a top rated show for years. Ppl don’t get to such heights without public support. My point remains that TONS of ppl enjoyed the nastiness and toxicity of this show

​@@gladiatorinsweats The thing is people like you can't "reflect" on the past without getting personal about it and acting as if it's hurting you in some type of way today. Judging the past with the morals of the present day is both dumb and pointless. You wouldn't want people in the future judging you for views and opinions that were quite popular for the time, so just accept things for what they were and move on.

@@skip031890 so slavery is okay then? I mean by your logic it's okay since it all happened in the past and it was normal back then 🤷‍♀

@@kurapikakurta3863 Slavery is still normal today and I don't see you calling out those places that still do it. I guess you thought you were being slick with that comment, but you're not. 🙄

The Tyra Bank show was tame compare to other daytime tv shows of the 90s and early 2000s.

What's your problem with ANTM? Is it Tyra being mean to some poor helpless adults? Or is it people blaming a t.v show for their problems?

Yeah, I don’t think that’s it

It is avaliable for streaming on Hulu (at least in 2020)

She wasn't just "mean" but go off.

Yeah I mean Janice is just being transparent. What more do people want?

THANK YOU... ppl have too much free time.

And I still love it!! Janice did what other cruel judges would do! She had to prepare them for the industry!!! I respect her for that….

Agree 💯

💯 all the comments

As harsh as she was to some of those girls, I feel like off-camera it was one of those situations where "if you can handle me being this character, you can handle anything"...... A lot of the girls admitted that Janice and Miss Jay are the judges they respect the most because when the cameras were off, it was all apologies and love.

...if?

She meant every word...her personality screams "and who gone check me boo".. #BossBihEnergy

Yup, she’s old school. She isn’t a victim. Respect.

@@ensabahnur3104 I agree "If..." is not an apology. Oddly enough, Tyra taught me that 🥴.

Same. Yea some episodes were how they were but the girls could have left point blank and as we saw as the time progressed some of them weren’t beat and did left. They could have left and called it a day honestly I went to go and try out for the show but decided on college but I love Tyra and half the goals up there only did the show for Tyra anyway

🤣🤣🤣

I pretended to get mad at my dolls after that. I hope they don't talk about me in therapy. 😂

@@carrington2949 🤣🤣🤣

I find Tyrant's behavior downright rude and disrespectful. She is worse than Janice who at least was never hypocritical on the show.

She made the show work for her and make good money.

I had the good fortune to be roomed with my bestie in college. We both caught colds at the same time and spent 3 days watching VH1 because they had a ANTM marathon running. We were achy, snotty, and miserable but had the best time watching this. It was interesting to see the photo shoots and we would go back and forth to one another about how harsh the judging was. But damn it was a great time and one of my fondest memories of college. I think models are awesome and have a cousin who auditioned for the show. I respect the grind but always had trouble wrapping my head around how cutthroat the industry was. Knowing what I know now about how poorly those girls were treated, idk if I could watch it now.

I feel nostalgia and ick at the same time

and Yaya Dacosta... Brie... The only ones compalining are the ones that didnt excel. Everything now is a problem.. soon we wont be able to speak or breathe without criticism.

It was a toxic show on a toxic industry. It was a mirror. Its not at all unfair. What an odd statement.

Also, Tyra’s whole point was that she wanted the show to change the fashion industry and show that girls didn’t have to all look the same to be models, only to uphold the same toxic standards the show was supposed to be standing against.

Nothing was toxic about the show. Everyone isn't beautiful and everyone can't be a model. It's job with specific requirements. Everyone can't be doctor, lawyer or accountant. Should they change the requirements to be a doctor so people who aren't capable can become doctors. Like just remove the med school requirement altogether??

Even though it hasn’t aged well, it will forever be iconic!!

Even though it hasn’t aged well, it will forever be iconic!!

Me too lol! Waited in that long ass line in DC

THANK YOU, HINDSIGHT IS ALWAYS 20/20

amen sis!!!

exactly. yaya is on The Resident like boom, Eva continues to work, Toccara has her clothing lines

So did I in LA! 😅 The show was rough but I’m sure models deal with these antics and worse behind the scenes. This show just brought it to light and amplified it for ratings. It had 24 seasons!

Right??? Like I need to know Lisa's response to that.

@@alexrcastaneda I mean what she gone say she knows she didn’t really win that Cycle 🤣😂

I immediately clocked Lisa right there and SCREAMED 😭

​@@alexrcastaneda I don't recall Angelea and Lisa being bffs, but I can imagine Lisa empathizing with Angelea over the dethronement. Lisa has been vocal on social media about the show's toxicities onscreen and offscreen. She even demanded to Tyra to release the original clip where Angelea was crowned winner in Greece.

So Angelea was really the real winner, lisa only got the title because they decrowned Angelea okay I see

TheFace had Naomi screaming at girls too.

That’s not true, I always knew Tyra was toxic af. I could never understand why anyone liked her.

Tyra can eat her flowers still blaming naomi and playing victim

Oof the delusion. As someone who was a huge fan of the show, it's not just that people find it a bit problematic. It *was* problematic and dehumanizing. They preyed on young women who'd do anything to make it and mentally/physically harmed them to make lord knows how many millions for Tyra and her producers. I remember religiously watching the show with my mom and didn't understand why my mom (who worked in fashion) always seemed to pity the girls. She'd always make comments like 'damn all this stress and 99% are going to be forgotten, not supermodels', and she was right. There's a reason Tyra faded away from the spotlight when she could've been the next Oprah. She knew a time for atonement was coming. Flowers lol please.

So fucking sick of hearing that word used for everything. As well as toxic literally and triggering...

@@cafeAmericano cuz you are prob a toxic person yourself 😂

This right here. Thank you....they really need to slow up. Especially given that these beautiful chocolate sisters would have seen NO airtime at all if not for Tyra. Say your piece, but don't get stupid with it.

I agree 100% . It was a product of its time. Not fair to look back now.

I love Tyra . She can never be cancelled in my eyes. She didn’t do anything worse than what everyone else was doing in that time and era

Um Tyra put girls in black faced and forced a legally blind model to walk an obstacle course run way without looking at the cat walk first. The models were very transphobic to Isis with no intervention and the amount of micro aggressions and racism towards the darker skin models was insane. That’s barely scratching the surface. Gordon Ramsey just yells at people…

@@lovedoctor7928 exactly ‼️

That’s what they’re doing Marissa. They’re talking about what happened and hopefully people learn from this.

THANK YOU for saying it.

Agreed.

Again it’s easier for you to say this when you were not on the receiving end of the anti blackness l/bullying that was spewed towards the contestants. So no people don’t have to move on

@@groovyli4502 lmao anti blackness stfu no one is any black and im black

You should know that Tyra micromanaged everything, so she deserved the blame for everything wrong about the show.

Agree it changed in later seasons and I stopped watching the first few seasons you actually learned Beauty tips, later it was about stunts etc.

Aka. exploitation all for personal gain

Right!

@@torch712 You just want to see her fall from grace. Log off and go invest that energy into something productive.

Loved it as a kid but didn’t know it was up to 2018

It's always been a problem, girl. It was supposed to be "based on Tyra's experiences"? Girl, please. Since when did you see Tyra, in all of her modelling career, roll around in an inflatable hamster ball on a 1 inch runway over a pool or walk down runways with swinging pendulums as an obstacle course? Or walk down a 90° angled runway on bungee cords? And the underwear photoshoots that ATNM did were downright tipping the line towards sexual harrassment when they forced the female contestants to intimately pose with male models while barely wearing anything.

You are correct. Everybody want to deny the fact that there were very harsh standards for being a model. My aunt was a model about 25 years ago. Trust me what is done behind closed doors was just put on center stage on the show.

I've come to realize people want to make these shows, these stars, these brands mean something and represent something in their lives that it shouldn't. People look to blame everything for the ills in their life but where it should actually fall. The amount of people in these comments blaming the show for their lack of self-esteem and my friends and I watched the same show without that problem. The difference I think is our parents raised us and didn't leave our rearing to t.v. shows, t.v. stars, brands, politicians or anybody or anything else.

@@_Just_Another_Guy Tyra herself and other models have spoken about how stressful the modeling world is. Breast binding, encouraged eating disorders, abortions, sexu harassment, etc...just because you didn't see it first hand didn't mean it was happening. Im not saying what happened on the show was right but it was based on experiences and it continues to happen everyday.

No baby, it's an awful show.

The problem is obviously those pretentiously "woke" tiktokers who would create drama for clout lol

Go back and watch it a lot of the things they said and did were very unprofessional and unacceptable trust me I’m not in that woke culture

Amen!!!!!!!

@@StreamHypeBoyByNewJeans I think there is also a problem in ANTM, especially the issue where the production starve their models on purpose usually during photoshoots to capture dramas. But I agree with your statement, I also want to add that people should also realize that there is a generation gap. I was born in the mid 90s and when I was younger, I don't see most of their criticisms toxic, though a lot of them are sure toxic. The problem now are the mindset of people especially woke people in present time because they are overly sensitive about everything while most of them are just bunch of hypocrites because they complain and fight for something and yet, they are also saying horrible things without thinking and their "cancel" culture is extremely toxic.

​@@StreamHypeBoyByNewJeansY'all always claim That addressing issues as being "woke", but these models themselves have been talking about the mistreatment they received on the show for YEARS

For who? Never mind. It tells me everything I need to know about you 😂