Horn: You would Lose? Bagpipe: *Nah, I'd Win*

Throughout land and the underground I alone am the honoured one.

Are you a good vanguard because you print DP, or do you print DP because you are a good vanguard

With this golden apple I summon...

“You were magnificent Bagpipe, I shall never forget about you for as long as I live.”

The fact that Myrtle literally got a vtuber debut says a lot about the community liking Myrtle so much that she got her own debut in a way 😂

They wha

​@@aefadjust as shocked as u buddy

Not using her is already a mistake😂

Ines is actually stronger but it's his opinion

Oh that's true, how come Thorns isn't in the list, he's really versatile and can be used in more ocasions than Gavial. This tierlist is kinda weird ngl

​@@amel_lemourijust read the description

@@seraphic24 Nuh uh, i am part of EN can't read cult!

​@@amel_lemourithorns takes too long for mediocre damage at hard stages, especially hell stages , His like that one character that's good in early to mid game content especially in afk but in hard content his damage falls off + takes too long for second activation especially in high acension

I'd argue that Thorns, while he's still a strong op, still sits at a solid top 5-6 for guards. Strong lane holder and good damage, but not very useful in high difficulty gameplay as compared to everyone else. He falls off at higher IS3 difficulties and I generally use Gavial and Mountain more often

In before HG decides to make Myrtle alter.

@@Barro1 No kidding but I feel like Myrtle alter would be a medic cause of her apple. She literally has no lore but the apple.

I always bring Texas Omertosa and Kirin R Yato tbh. I just beat deathless black snake with them recently, challenge included.

@gravoschaoshart5269 *inhale* "BACK IN MUH DAY-" Jokes aside good job finishing the reunion arc! See you in Victoria.

He does his job, it's just there are better options around. Such as better cc or better debuffers. Shamare have her atk debuff that really helps, and scene is just solid

​@@kushine_yeah scene is the true savior in IS game mode

I really like Shamare's 'global range' skill, great for a physical helidrop boss kill before the boss reaches your defensive line. I use Gnosis more like a cheap caster tbh.

Shamare's puppet is way more convenient to use, no wonder she's in top 5 list

​@@calamitysangfroid2407you're correct to value Shamare that highly, but you are severely undervaluing Gnosis' crowd control and fragile buffs for your DPSs!

I always forgot Ling 💀

no, she is the whole squad..👀

It's really hard to see one as a supporter when said being can solo pretty much all stages. Ling : "yes, I am a support. I support people by killing all of the enemies".

@@rachmatzulfiqar "I'm not here to support the violence, I AM the violence."

While here I am forgetting she exist till this video. edit: nvm she's in one of the stages in trials of navi , bruh how is she so forgettable edit 2: and i just realize i have her on m3 and module lvl3 bruh i gotta use her

Gnosis is "bad" because outside SSS and IS, He is very Weird slower + debuffer. He is bad at slowing mobs, He is bad at debuffing enemies, even Shamare and Pramanix are better option. But if we add attack speed buff, we will see that talent "Attack Inflict Cold" become Menace for enemies, especially SSS and IS become Trivial...

he's not that bad (i get your quotations), he just got his own niche and it doesn't really apply to normal difficulty stages. he can stun, mid crowd-control and pretty fast cycle. i'd used him for awhile when i was a newbie but now i only use him for more difficult stages like past CCs, or "kind of" stun replacement for Texas when i got unlucky in IS. I'm a little bias towards him since he's fun to use but it's fine if he's not in the top tier hehe.

​@@ikeswineglass429tbh he is not bad, for normal, challenge stage or CC he is indeed not bad, but like if u play in like IS he will be shine more bcoz some buff, that why i also like him play in IS where there have good buff on him that make him shine but for normal stage, his talent hardly shine, if read his talent, he apply fragile but only for fuking 1 second

@@mustafaamraan8110 IS2 Final Bosses (and I think the Sword/Bow brothers as well?) are immune to Cold/Freeze, though, which makes Suzuran or Shamare (or Saria S3) better picks for damage amplification in that mode. Gnosis shines in SSS with ASPD buffs, although with his wide range, that also makes some stages annoying to clear if he freezes enemies too far for your other DPS to kill. They'll still die, but it can take longer than it needs to. Suzuran and Shamare can debuff practically any enemy, but Gnosis needs the enemies to be vulnerable to Cold, which is probably why he's not in the top 5 despite being very strong when he does work.

Bro, just use gnosis with suzu, and kill whole mobs. If you add Angelina, it's totally destroy everything. ​@@nawaru01

We are (P)Harmacist company but...

Probably by useability, as she serves best to tank at S2M3.

No those isn't even broken, they just good

@@misakaashorts so what about elysium , he is quite similar to myrtle

The list is for hard content mrtyle is a 4 star that's easy to get -2 from + max potential, instant skill with bagpipe, while saileach may be a 6 star but she offers -DP deployment on the next operator+ her 3rd skill with her fragile is pretty effective for hard content, Elysium is good don't get me wrong his better with snipers obviously. Chongyue is mediocre, his good but not broken, needs insane set up , hell probably be dead in hard content before he even gets his skill going , you have to baby sit him hard. Mountain is good don't get me wrong but again in hard content you want someone that can immidietly burst and big damage on demand TYPHON ISNT IN GLOBAL YET

The fact that she is a 4* operator helped, people can get full potential Myrtle really fast for the -2 DP cost

That's why she's the goat! THE GOAT!!!! 草

Well the whole point of the tierlist in vanguard probably take in account DpS regent (because you are mostly bringing Vanguard for DP) so it actually make sense that the best (and only) Flag operator is the unit that goes first in the tierlist. All the other spot are totally better units when the Dp quick regent is irrelevant but you want big Dp regen anyways. I will said that the devs more often than nop put quick dangerous enemies in the first wave on hard stages so Myrtle value kinda deminish on certain maps.

I like using her as a weak ST healer on maps where she doesn't take chip damage (poison / lots of ranged enemies) and just chucking Mon3tr towards groups of enemies with it's stun module to just self destruct. It's really nice in IS#3 to help stun those low-altitude hovers and bring them to the ground. She is also amazing as a laneholder with her other module, it's just a nice change of pace when I have other strong operators who might need some healing support and I don't need the tanking (again, IS#3 mostly).

who needs healing when you can simply just kill the enemy?

I'm in minority but i like using Sailreach's skill 2. She gives dp nearly just as fast as her s1 but she also gives mudrock and reapers heals while at it.

You are missing the point on why saileach is more used than Elysium in hard content, fragile is more versatile on her skill 3 + she decreases the DP of the next operator you deploy NOT JUST SNIPERS it's more versatile than Elysium skill 2 wdym? invisible reveal for hard content is not needed when we have Ines for that and it's permanent, the slow is irrelevant when both skill do it but saileach's comes with a stun and damage on skill 3 with a way Better uptime. Saileach's 30% fragile is more effective as a damage buff to all sources than -35% defense on 4 enemies,

@@kek_9866 you forgot the part where fragile are not stacking and only 10 second( ely s2 are 15 ) Sure we has ines now for just invis reveal( + a slight slow) but Elysium also packed with -60% movement with debuff which make it still usefull even on pyrolisis. Also they are Vanguard, so 20 DP that come with it is huge compared to only 10 DP

@@k_a4685 tell me you don't play hard content without telling me. Saileach DP generation is litterally ignored because we have agents like cantabile and Ines/mrtyle + bagpipie, you don't just bring saileach alone I mean who on earth does that, Elysium only decreases SNIPER DP cost while saileach decreases everyone after her, She straight ups makes mrtyle cost 6 dp, deploy saileach then myrtle immidietly after. Who on earth are you slowing for 60% ms how does that change the playing field what boss in hard content gets affected by that anyway? Fragile doesn't stack obviously but does that matter when ur amplifying all damage types? Not just defense debuff is helps with true damage and arts damage that's 30% damage increase on all sources, Not TO MENTION THE UPTIME , ELYSIUM skill is on a 30 SP second activation! AND IT ONLY AFFCETS DEFENSE , sure it last 5 seconds longer But SECOND ACTIVATION SUCKS ASS BRO , WHILE SAILEAH it's on a 20 SP cost AFFECTING 3 damage types while it last for 10 seconds the uptime is BETTER my guy, 20 SP COST IS BETTER THAN 30 SP COST, seriously,

@@k_a4685 here's how your brain works, Elysium on paper is better individually than saileach, but on a 12 squad saileach is better because she works well with so many operators not just snipers, she combos well with other class of operators especially in hard content

gater*

@@mirukuuni_ same thing

no.

@@mirukuuni_ theyre the same damn operator fym

tf no@@zhayne1774

Imo look which ops you mentioned is definitely good even thorn is also very good and strong.but they don't have anything outside their kit.sure SA powercrept but his talents are very good.

Powercreept dont mean that he is still worse than others guards tho. What he does still relevant enough to outclass most of those guards consider that the direct upgrade to SilverAsh is Mlynar and only Mlynar (in the guard deparment)

Silverash extra tile range is no joke very relevant. While Mlynar is obviusly the best option in most cases tho.

lumen only provides heal and cleanse (rarely used tho) meanwhile nightingale provides res, eyja for elemental, ptilopsis for sp, reed alter and kaltsit for dps (true dmg for kaltsit)

​@idkmyname3497 lumen is like most used healer in CN server guides up to this day. If there is nothing to cleanse then his skill becomes infinite duration self-buff with insane range and with module also no more dmg reduction on further targets. He is an insanely powerful st healer. Yet again he, eyjalter and nightingale are the go-to healers on CN for a reason 🤔

@@anastil this is a list for hard content such as cc, you'll need someone that can do more than healing to not waste your squad and deployment limit. Although lumen do be great for general content because he heals well, and is f2p friendly, it is not the case for harder contents.

true, maybe if there’s some elites standing around doing nothing ill use cantabile, but cant ever tell first time lol

Mon3tr is op for tank and pure damage nuking.

I guess the best Medic, in River's mind, is the offensive one.

You can't solo a map with eyjyaalter

Thats right its in top 5 and thats good enough.

Depend on what u want from medic class, Kaltsit as laneholder/boss killer Ng for negating art damage Reed as caster Eyjalter for pure healing Ptilo for sp battery

Eyjafjalla : am I a joke to you

This list is for hard content only

@@wickeddave5148 i see

Tf are you on gavial s2 have reaper range.even though blaze is my favorite gavial earn the spot.

thorns has fallen off pretty big now, he only good in general content, hard content hardly see his face anymore

Yeah, absolutely not mentioned Mountain. Truly easiest op to use PS I forgot Big Tiger is Vanguard 😂

Hard content tend to need big burst pp damage.

Gavialter's s2 has broad attack range so I always pick her when start new stages

Takes too long for second activation for mediocre damage for hard content bruv , you want someone that can burst real quick with little to no set up, mylnar, surtur, Tex alt type ops

Her niche is being basically invincible against ranged enemies. She also has true aoe and ministuns, which makes her godly against flyers.

This aged well with CC#2

it is personal tier

It is Personal

Personal but i aggred with this tier (for hard content)

Rosa has Wider range tho

She's safer

More like Pozy is better than Schwarz, and Rosa does something different than either of them (long range artillery and stalling).

Mumu is pretty niche I guess

niche, not top tier, very dependence on your roster

who needs this piece of _"water"_ when there are normal vanguards?

Just a niche vanguard, that’s about it

Ousted by Gavialter. More damage, more survivability, more versatility, can lanehold, can even off-lane 3 melee lanes with the right skill timing, and can burst bosses with S3. Whereas Blaze is only really used for laneholding with S2 these days, and maps where her always-on extra tile reach is useful. The old tactic of putting Blaze behind a defender also falls off when Gavialter S2/S3 is as tanky as a defender but doesn't take 2 deployment slots. The tierlist seems fairly geared towards hard content (bosses, EX levels, CC, Trials), and that makes sense, you don't need OP units to clear normal content. This is why Thorns, Mountain, Hoshi aren't here, they've also fallen off in power level in harder content, along with Blaze. They're still great units and great QoL units (no need to babysit like Mlynar cycle times or Silverash redeployment), but for things like higher risk CC, they've fallen behind. EDIT: Forgot to mention that for 'peeking over the fence' situations, Blaze S2M3 does 1375 DPS, but NTR Knight's S1M3 does 1953 DPS. So Blaze's 'best' skill is worse than NTR's 'worst' skill, on top of Blaze costing more to deploy (24 vs 19 DP) and taking longer to get there (70 SP vs 60 SP). It only wins out when attacking multiple enemies, but then Gavialter wins that matchup. I still bring Blaze because I'm lazy and forget to switch skills, but she's only good for AFK and general content now. Oh, and I didn't even mention Fedex, who despite being more powerful (over 2k DPS when ramping is factored in) and having better self-sustain than Blaze, isn't even ever considered for top 5 spot, because the game difficulty has shot up since launch.