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Top VS Bottom VS Mid Mount Battery for FPV Freestyle?

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Le Drib

Le Drib

Күн бұрын

Which is best?
Let me know what other comparisons you want to see!
-- Top Mount Drone (my usual drone) --
GoPro HERO6 Black: amzn.to/2JzCV6P
MQC Fusion - Le Drib Edition: goo.gl/kFHtVo
My GoPro Mount for MQC Fusion: goo.gl/t15uxa
DYS F4 Pro Flight Board: amzn.to/2yDUo9i
DYS Aria BLHeli 32bit ESCs: amzn.to/2xbfK7Z
Hypetrain Le Drib Motor: amzn.to/2IbqNEz
HQ Prop 5x4.3x3: amzn.to/2tmjoNa
Rotor Riot Swift 2 FPV Cam: amzn.to/2g5XDuC
IRC Tramp VTX: amzn.to/2xaceQ2
Lumenier AXII antenna: amzn.to/2ryO3pK
Spektrum Quad Race Receiver With Telemetry: amzn.to/2nDWgZI
Kwad Skids! amzn.to/2FZgC59
Rotor Riot Hypo 4S 1550mah: amzn.to/2K2q5yh
-- Bottom Mount Drone --
GoPro HERO5 Session: amzn.to/2ldNJKO
Skitzo Dark Matter Frame: amzn.to/2yz3xjx
DYS F4 Pro Flight Board: amzn.to/2yDUo9i
DYS 4-in-1 ESC Board: amzn.to/2MfXiTE
LD Power 2305 2600kV:
HQ Prop 5x4.3x3: amzn.to/2tmjoNa
Rotor Riot Swift 2 FPV Cam: amzn.to/2g5XDuC
IRC Tramp VTX: amzn.to/2xaceQ2
Lumenier AXII antenna: amzn.to/2ryO3pK
Spektrum Quad Race Receiver With Telemetry: amzn.to/2nDWgZI
Rotor Riot Hypo 4S 1550mah: amzn.to/2K2q5yh
-- Mid Mount Drone --
GoPro HERO6 Black: amzn.to/2JzCV6P
Ummagawd REMIX Frame: amzn.to/2tqRTC4
DYS F4 Pro Flight Board: amzn.to/2yDUo9i
DYS 4-in-1 ESC Board: amzn.to/2MfXiTE
Hypetrain FREESTYLE 2306 2450kv: store.rotorrio...
HQ Prop 5.5x4x3: amzn.to/2KcovG1
IRC Tramp VTX: amzn.to/2xaceQ2
Lumenier AXII U.FL: amzn.to/2MhxKp2
Spektrum Quad Race Receiver With Telemetry: amzn.to/2nDWgZI
Rotor Riot Hypo 4S 1550mah: amzn.to/2K2q5yh
-- Other Drone Gear --
FPV:
Fat Shark HDO: amzn.to/2rzhhVs
spiroNET antenna: amzn.to/2xbqHq1
8dB mini patch antenna: amzn.to/2xTb2PM
Transmitter:
Spektrum iX12: amzn.to/2jOA1fq
Spektrum DX9 Black Edition: amzn.to/2mXuFxI
Antenna mod: amzn.to/2mPNcNr
Tools & Other Gear:
BACKPACK: amzn.to/2s4EYHA
BEST SOLDERING IRON: amzn.to/2qy34cw
Electric Screwdriver: amzn.to/2jLLjkp
My favorite charger: goo.gl/Mrbjgp
DJI Mavic: amzn.to/2lTuZkj
-- Vlogging Gear --
LUMIX G85 w/ kit lens: amzn.to/2ouxV9j
My Daily Lens 12-35 f/2.8: amzn.to/2IbqARN
Cheap prime lens for cinematic shots: amzn.to/2iYIJuO
Rode mic: amzn.to/2iWDXOg
bendy tripod: amzn.to/2iX67ca
-- Contact --
Drew Camden
P.O. Box 80
Clawson, MI, United States 48017
backwardsbird@gmail.com
-- tunes in this flick --
"Glamb" and "howmanybevs" by Matty A
/ mattyamusic
"Back Home", "Drip", "13", and "Pinch" by Pryces
/ pryced

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@MrKarriban
@MrKarriban 5 жыл бұрын
6:17 that wire actually startled me
@uPshiftsHaun
@uPshiftsHaun 6 жыл бұрын
So I was talkn fpv at work, Regional manager heard me and said his brother is into it and makes frames or something. Calls him up "what's your company again?"... mqc. Whaaat. Drib flies mqc.. Sweet. Small world
@ivanmartin5930
@ivanmartin5930 6 жыл бұрын
Jump on that! Maybe get him to send you some frames! You’re a lucky dude!
@Inertia888
@Inertia888 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a graphic on screen, representing the current draw of each motor. Knowing the relative power draw in comparison to each motor, and with that, a side by of each build, would give me an even clearer picture of what is happening onboard.
@NauseaMonkeyFPV
@NauseaMonkeyFPV 6 жыл бұрын
This guy.. put 4 motors on a brick and he still will fly it smooth
@gedgar2000
@gedgar2000 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah LeDrib could make anything look great.
@nadavfedida2200
@nadavfedida2200 2 жыл бұрын
LeDrib - hold my beer, *put four bricks on a motor and rips*
@jpfpv287
@jpfpv287 6 жыл бұрын
You have some sick spots, i'm slightly jealous :)
@fpv_am
@fpv_am 5 жыл бұрын
You're genius, not only because of flying skill, but because of video editing and montage. Music and footage combination is just perfect.
@coryvenezia5530
@coryvenezia5530 5 жыл бұрын
It’s nice when we can hear the drone sounds. Instead of just music. It helps me to try and mimic ur tricks
@filippinoflipfpv1380
@filippinoflipfpv1380 Жыл бұрын
Le drib skylite was so worth it..thanks for a great solid build bro! I've been wrecking it for almost a year now. It's upped my skills big time man. Now when I build my apex I won't aniahlate it:)
@goramiir
@goramiir 6 жыл бұрын
I so wanted to see a juicy flick up through the dive gap! Nice flying!
@Dav2112
@Dav2112 6 жыл бұрын
That was some bad ass flying!!!
@ThatFlyinRyan
@ThatFlyinRyan 6 жыл бұрын
Dav right dude !
@ES-wp4bi
@ES-wp4bi 5 жыл бұрын
IKR
@DJOetken
@DJOetken 6 жыл бұрын
I've got the curly mustache.. and crazy color in my hair.. still can't freestyle.
@LassoHunterPolska
@LassoHunterPolska 6 жыл бұрын
DJ Oetken glasses. It is glasses m8
@DJOetken
@DJOetken 6 жыл бұрын
Thank heavens! I knew I was missing something.. I was afraid that I was going to have to start wearing briefs..
@flyingfrogfpv7205
@flyingfrogfpv7205 6 жыл бұрын
Haha you made my day....i feel the same 🤣👍
@3spressoShot
@3spressoShot 5 жыл бұрын
but you have the both of the items that give power to steele and drib. wth. im not gonna dye my hair if it doesnt actually work
@gedgar2000
@gedgar2000 5 жыл бұрын
You dummy, you forgot the eyeliner. THAT's the secret!!
@rednoxmtb
@rednoxmtb 6 жыл бұрын
That is a great Question to answer. Which kind of Quad. I’ll check, got a top and a bottom mount and I take them everywhere, I’ll go and study their behind the sticks more closely. A nice way to spend a flying session enjoying the differences and challenging myself flying both.
@HellaCopter
@HellaCopter 5 жыл бұрын
Rewatched again thanks man and super congrats on 50k next is 100k it’ll hit you before you know it! And can I say you really deserve so much more your a real hero in this community and a good role model for kids which is everything this hobby needs thanks Drew always!
@WKfpv
@WKfpv 6 жыл бұрын
That last run was impresive
@rmdcade1717
@rmdcade1717 6 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on having props in frame, but there's something that I really like about how the Remix flies (or at least how the footage looks when you and Tommy are flying it). It's very shoulders-forward, if that means anything, which it doesn't, but maybe you get me anyway.
@Kabab
@Kabab 6 жыл бұрын
I pose a hypothesis for you to test: Within the ~475-650g range, the hangtime is not a factor of your AUW. It's a factor of your batteries ability to dish out the power. The lighter one will reach a higher top speed while the heavier one may just have a tad more meaningful momentum. If the same battery is used on both, the lighter quad usually gets more hangtime. It's more difficult for the battery to perform well on the heavy quad and I've found that all of the time (not some of the time), the heavier quad will actually have less hang time unless the battery is notably higher performing. It's easier to catch more time on a lower weight quad. Support for this hypothesis being that nobody straps a rock to their 500g AUW quad in order to get more hangtime...
@LeDribFPV
@LeDribFPV 6 жыл бұрын
I used the same battery on both. And I didn't say more hang time, I said it travels further for a given toss. Just my experience that my heavier top mount will toss further than my lighter bottom mount. A better way to verbalize it would be the lighter quad accelerates at a higher rate, meaning that it will both gain and loose velocity at a higher rate than the heaver one. So it is faster to get up there and will likely have a longer vertical "hang time" (because it actually has greater final vertical velocity) but also slows down laterally against the force of wind resistance at a faster rate than the heavier one because of its reduced momentum (p=mv)
@Kabab
@Kabab 6 жыл бұрын
Le Drib test it somehow?
@LeDribFPV
@LeDribFPV 6 жыл бұрын
launch a tennis ball and baseball at same speed. Baseball will go further. Tested.
@Kabab
@Kabab 6 жыл бұрын
Le Drib higher speed in is higher momentum. The battery is unable to perform as optimally on the heavier quad in order to match momentum even with it's weight advantage. Also, the 'drag' coefficient of the quads will be similar and even a ~100g variation may not be enough of an increase to significantly overcome the drag. Literal strap a 75g weight to a light quad and see how it performs all else the same. See if you get more hangtime.
@LeDribFPV
@LeDribFPV 6 жыл бұрын
But either way, doesn't really matter. I was just sharing my experience as I've flown. And no an individuals experience based on "feel" doesn't count as repeatable data, but I believe in flying what feels good, not what the numbers says.
@StacemanFPV
@StacemanFPV 6 жыл бұрын
I've done top and bottom mount and can definitely feel a difference.. prefer top. Haven't tried mid mount yet but have that remix frame.. Will be trying it sometime soon though
@JeffWok
@JeffWok 6 жыл бұрын
I can't say enough how much I like the vids that have information that helps me fly better. Great post!
@sillyputtynotsilly
@sillyputtynotsilly 6 жыл бұрын
Mid mount all day. I like props in the video. It's cool watching them speed up and slow down with the tricks. I think it Kinda adds to it.
@PixelFPV
@PixelFPV 6 жыл бұрын
Belly busters for life! I used to only fly top mounts for freestyle, but I find that the COG is more neutral with the battery below and the goPro on top, and like Drew said, they tend to be much smaller bodies, so they're lighter and float a lot better. I just can't bonk structures or do skid landings.
@airicfpv3154
@airicfpv3154 6 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how good you are
@MB3Drift
@MB3Drift 6 жыл бұрын
Very good comparaison, but I want to put 2 things up: - The tendency to pitch up when doing sharp 180 degres turns with the bottom mount quad is very strange, because I found exactly the opposite! I used to race with lightweight true x bottom mount with 55 degres of tilt, quad flying almost vertically, and it was point and shoot, so precise! But with the top mount battery, heavier and with slightly less tilt due to lack of power due to weight, it was litteraly like grabbed by the nose and pulled up. I also was draining my dinogy 1500 80C to 13V in less that 1min20 with 2600kv dans 5046x3, so I had to de-tilt to avoid burning them every week or so^^ - Don’t forget that with the remix you fly a slightly larger quad with 5,5’’ props, it obvious that it feel differently that a 5’’ if you have the same rates on both quads, it should logical feel more stable due to larger props, more planted in the air, and less fast on roll and flip because larger and lower kV.
@solidfpvdeadgxsr4528
@solidfpvdeadgxsr4528 6 жыл бұрын
Feels so natural commentating. Nice work!
@werewolvesfpv5002
@werewolvesfpv5002 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Drib, on my little printed guy I have top and bottom mount. I tried this recently to see the difference on the same frame. This was very interesting to watch and compare against my own findings. One thing I did note, that is not always said, is not just mount method, but how off center the battery is. I find for acro and hard maneuvers, this to be more noticeable. It may not show up as much on Mini Quads because your power to weight ratio is 10:1 where as my 3 inch micro is about 5:1. The littler motors, having less power show the difference more noticeably. Problematically the high power of mini quads may in fact make it harder to notice. More so noticeable at the end of the battery where the torque delivery is reduced. This would be maybe more to for you guys with respect to the camera balancing an off center battery. Food for thought!
@illpro2
@illpro2 6 жыл бұрын
You've grown and improved soooo much. One of my favorites now for sure.
@branderson9420
@branderson9420 6 жыл бұрын
Man this is just so flawless. I enjoy you flying and video style
@cannibalholiday
@cannibalholiday 6 жыл бұрын
Crazy how smooth the movements are, even for quick jogs through narrow gaps. Like you've got linear interpolation running on your fingertips
@BlueHornetFPV
@BlueHornetFPV 6 жыл бұрын
That was fun to watch and learn about the different characteristics. Plus you tore that spot up. Awesomeness! 👌🙌💙
@TokeyFPV
@TokeyFPV 6 жыл бұрын
Yep top mount for me all day...Have flown bottom and top...much prefer top mount for all the same reasons..Still interested in trying a mid mount quad tough.
@evanthevan
@evanthevan 6 жыл бұрын
Nice one man! Glad you mentioned the position of the camera in bottom-mount setups, I think that's often overlooked.
@jakeydeefpv
@jakeydeefpv 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed seeing this warm up process makes me feel like I'm on the right track
@donshort3332
@donshort3332 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the continued professional and often times informative videos, we have all come to love.
@brisketbaron
@brisketbaron 6 жыл бұрын
I flew bottom mounts forever. Just recently started really flying top mounts. They seem easier too tune/fly. I think I'm sold on the top mount.
@DMANIAK
@DMANIAK 6 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. Started out almost 3 years ago, top mount. Switched to bottom mount about a year and a half ago. Love it. But I just built a Rooster about 8 weeks ago. Hated it at first, now I completely love it. Love that heavier feel now and the hangtime it gets. Freestyle is fun with bottom mount just can't get that good flow and hang as a top mount. Just ordered a 2nd new top mount frame to build. Also the bottom mount does have a quicker better turning ability, next time try a high speed tight 180 around a tree or pole, that's where you can feel it. Rooster definitely wont turn that right or fast. But it makes up for it everywhere else.
@Musclemustang351w
@Musclemustang351w 6 жыл бұрын
Le Drib! Not sure if you'll see this, but I LOVE my remix with your le drib hypetrains and 5544 cyclones. My go to build for sure!
@wildweasel3465
@wildweasel3465 6 жыл бұрын
your flying has gotten so much better man, rip on ripper!
@TheKi11erj
@TheKi11erj 6 жыл бұрын
you are an amazingly talented pilot
@ThatFlyinRyan
@ThatFlyinRyan 6 жыл бұрын
Wow the last few seconds drew that was clean as fuck and the remix had this accerleration effect look in the GoPro or I guess motion blur that looked really cool ! Great shit man keep it up dude !
@andrewfrater6238
@andrewfrater6238 6 жыл бұрын
Never knew about Mid Mount at all thanks for the video.
@JoeMaxFpv
@JoeMaxFpv 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Just had this same talk with one of my pilots. Some people swear by bottom mount. Where I also prefer top mount. Not that I can flow like you. But I hate hitting battery trying to squeeze through with a bottom mount.
@whollymindless
@whollymindless 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. Just goes to prove that, like love, we like what we like. Some great flying and some crazy gaps.
@dmyers9230
@dmyers9230 6 жыл бұрын
Like dancing in the air. Love your style!
@KlazerFPV
@KlazerFPV 6 жыл бұрын
I loved seeing you fly all three, thanks for the comparison video.
@Adrian64yt
@Adrian64yt 6 жыл бұрын
this video made me twitch like 20 times. crazy flying
@team01shakenbake
@team01shakenbake 4 жыл бұрын
solid video, i fly top mount only but i have always been curious about bottom mount.
@lamont12373
@lamont12373 6 жыл бұрын
Wow you make it look so easy
@dronereviewman9580
@dronereviewman9580 6 жыл бұрын
I never have flew top mount!!! I want too!!!! GREAT CHANNEL!! 👍😀👍
@Hyperlow
@Hyperlow 6 жыл бұрын
nice vid! mid doesn't hold its altitude as well which is why you had trouble with the gaps.... but it is much smoother transitioning out of flips and rolls which is more noticeable with higher rates (or faster movements like a slalom)
@Bruno-cb5gk
@Bruno-cb5gk 6 жыл бұрын
Rich // Hyperlow Frames why doesn't it hold altitude as well? Didn't know this.
@CoppertopFPV
@CoppertopFPV 6 жыл бұрын
Bruno Eye because the weight is neutral so it’s happy to rotate around the heaviest mass (the battery). I find I naturally set my mid mounts up sharper than top mounts.
@Bruno-cb5gk
@Bruno-cb5gk 6 жыл бұрын
Coppertop FPV how is this related to altitude? I get that aspect for the rates and responsiveness, but not altitude.
@CoppertopFPV
@CoppertopFPV 6 жыл бұрын
Bruno Eye typo. He meant attitude. Ie its natural willingness to stick to one position.
@Bruno-cb5gk
@Bruno-cb5gk 6 жыл бұрын
Coppertop FPV ah. Makes sense now, that's just because of lower inertia.
@MrJarrod
@MrJarrod 6 жыл бұрын
I'd describe the remix as a more balanced quad . You can't rely on battery g force too carry or throw the quad . You have to pilot it more. Not that it's a bad frame , just a different experience. Thanks Drew.
@chancewilson1161
@chancewilson1161 6 жыл бұрын
My first 5 inch was a bottom mount (Darkmax 220) and I hated it because I would wreck a battery constantly. I rebuilt it on a spartan frame top mount and loved it. Since I destroyed that frame I built it on a Remix frame still haven’t flown it yet due to a ton of technical issues but plan to fly it in the top mount configuration.
@JORLANDO93
@JORLANDO93 6 жыл бұрын
Top mount FTW!
@WrongWayFPV
@WrongWayFPV 6 жыл бұрын
What’s up Drew? Love watching your content.. keep up the great work! Hoping to fly with you one day.
@michaelbacosa814
@michaelbacosa814 6 жыл бұрын
That was some seriously badass flying..... great video. Thanks for posting.
@SplashFPV
@SplashFPV 6 жыл бұрын
Haha very nice. What an epic flight again in a tight space. I love it how much you seem to hate how the Remix flies and still are polite about it 😂. I love both my remix and my Alien style frames but it sure flies different.
@eleftherioskarakostas7191
@eleftherioskarakostas7191 6 жыл бұрын
nice one, you should also try a slammed version where the props are in line with the top plate. Thats the only conf I fly these days for freestyle.
@r0yb0y824
@r0yb0y824 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid man! 👌 It's cool to see the comparison. I have a few different types of frames myself. I can totally tell a difference between top and bottom mount. Top just feels more... juicy, I guess. You can definitely tell where you're at home. Last run was SICK!!!
@DanosGarage
@DanosGarage 4 жыл бұрын
I'm getting back into FPV. I'm going freestyle this time, and was wondering what the flight characteristics were between different mounts! Thank you for this!
@JoeKunsch
@JoeKunsch 6 жыл бұрын
i expect a flight edit from here. not gonna lie. great little spot!
@gearheaderic8282
@gearheaderic8282 6 жыл бұрын
Do a rotor riot episode like this but each pilot has to fly all 3 styles, same pids, and they can use their preferred rates but they don’t know what they are flying. So it would be like a blind test
@dis11v78
@dis11v78 6 жыл бұрын
Make a detailed overview of the camera. Rotor Riot Swift 2 FPV Cam.
@smerkkwads3235
@smerkkwads3235 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent Rhip Comparison!😎
@MavenFPV
@MavenFPV 6 жыл бұрын
You are wizard Drew! Amazing flying.
@lewisshipway7187
@lewisshipway7187 6 жыл бұрын
Something about that remix just looked way better. Maybe you could try stingy against the remix frame
@DennisRiessbeck
@DennisRiessbeck 6 жыл бұрын
To be able to feel the pendulum effect of the bottom mounted frame you have to make harder turns. I know I wouldn't look good/flowy or cinematic but that doesn't matter on a comparison video. Maybe you can explore this in the future. The pendulum effect is real, and difference feels like driving a rally car. You fly corners like drifting, on the top mount it is more locked in, like a race car. I prefer drifting on race tracks :)
@nikofpv
@nikofpv 6 жыл бұрын
when you push the MQC it's pretty amazing!
@friendlyfire01
@friendlyfire01 4 жыл бұрын
This needed to be a blind test!
@michaelwilkes0
@michaelwilkes0 6 жыл бұрын
@Le Drib Hey there bro, look up the "Pendulum rocket fallacy". I didn't know about it either. Apparently there is no possible pendulum effect on a quadcopter (or rocket). The only effect you are looking at is differences in angular momentum (which is still important).
@joshfinley85
@joshfinley85 6 жыл бұрын
Don't fly fpv anymore but I always liked bottom battery for everything
@jackfufpv8134
@jackfufpv8134 6 жыл бұрын
I too have been trying out new setups including a bottom mount. Not sure if it is because I fly it most but I still prefer my fusion w/your motors . I can say that the qav210xs bottom mount allows some tricks with greater easy and the fusion top mount others
@simonq9406
@simonq9406 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I can take you seriously when you hair match the tint of your sunglasses 😎
@wildweasel3465
@wildweasel3465 6 жыл бұрын
great vid as usual drew
@WarChest
@WarChest 6 жыл бұрын
I definitely prefer top mount as well even though the Stingy frame also exhibits a bit of prop exposure when the GoPro is recording in superview. Otherwise I think I’d go mid-mount.
@rl2769
@rl2769 6 жыл бұрын
I would prefer a top mount but what I have at the moment is bottom mount. And I don’t mind it a bit. But when I get all my components and do a build to my liking will be an X 250 frame with a top mount.
@RicardoPenders
@RicardoPenders 5 жыл бұрын
DAMN you fly like a pro!! Awesome and Wicked moves you did there dude...
@joshuafelton4735
@joshuafelton4735 6 жыл бұрын
Sick flying man I made the switch back to top mount awhile ago
@SkidzFPV
@SkidzFPV 6 жыл бұрын
Great content! I've watched you for almost a year probably and you have really progressed, you've always been a great pilot but I see you pushing harder and getting closer to tree gaps and dives, etc. keep them coming bud👍
@TRITONFPV
@TRITONFPV 6 жыл бұрын
Great Vid Le Dribby! Honestly, I've never had a chance to fly anything but top mount so I can't, in good faith, give a fair comparison myself. With that said, I'll continue with my OG QAV210 for now. She's a Beast👍
@theCALBOYGIXXER
@theCALBOYGIXXER 6 жыл бұрын
It's Michigan. Almost everything is abandoned haha
@diviscadilek1764
@diviscadilek1764 6 жыл бұрын
Kabab fpv made a vid about the throwability of quads with different masses. There isn't a noticable difference, it's just a placebo
@MangeDT
@MangeDT 6 жыл бұрын
Having a bottom mount battery DOES NOT make the quad act like a pendulum (it wanting to level out). Look at the pendulum rocket fallacy, same thing applies to quads
@Pile_of_carbon
@Pile_of_carbon 6 жыл бұрын
That is so true! Who would've thought playing Kerbal Space Program would help me understand quads better? xD My main quad is a top mount and it is really stable while my backup is a bottom mount and that one "wants to turn more" (for lack of a better term).
@kkrampus
@kkrampus 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the only thing the CG affects is active turns (e.g. when you put stick input in). When the sticks are centred you won't feel anything different
@CesiumSalami
@CesiumSalami 6 жыл бұрын
People don’t talk about it leveling out with bottom mount. Or that bottom mount is more stable ... they talk about the battery swaying the quad into a turn. I’m not totally sure about how the fallacy applies here because these are actively stabilized but regardless getting the COG on a bottom mount quad as close to the prop line as on a top mount is pretty hard (esp for racers). With the COG well below the prop line on a bottom mount (without a GoPro on top) there’s definitely a pendulum affect ... it’s just not a stabilizing one where the fallacy would be more important. No?
@CesiumSalami
@CesiumSalami 6 жыл бұрын
But, from a racer’s standpoint, if getting a centered COG isn’t possible ... you probably want that COG below the prop line vs. over the prop line so that during direction changes that mass pushes you into, not out of the turn (i mean the attitude of the quad - not actually moving you into a closer radius)
@kkrampus
@kkrampus 6 жыл бұрын
Not really. If the CoG is centralised (ie not to left/right/forward/back) there is very little effect on the movement on the quad if you move it up or down. This is because the centre of thrust and the centre of gravity lie on the same axis so there is no moment cause by the difference (moment or torque is force times distance from axis, the distance in this case is 0). What adjusting the CoG height could affect is moment of inertia, which is the amount an object wants to resist a change in rotation. This is the same effect the tightrope walkers use with their massive sticks, the width of the stick has a much greater inertial moment then a ball of the same mass and density. This is also why an Alien will have different pitch characteristics then a "traditional" pod true X frame. The true X has a more centralised mass, therefore a smaller inertial moment, and thus will have a higher rotational acceleration and spin up to speed quicker.
@theibault
@theibault 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Drew. Ultimately, I just think it comes down to comfort and feel. Fly what feels good. 😆
@Cman815
@Cman815 6 жыл бұрын
Nice flying drew
@crevette337
@crevette337 6 жыл бұрын
The remix look more smooth than the others
@DaveCraige
@DaveCraige 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Drew. Thanks for putting this together.
@AllenBrooks
@AllenBrooks 6 жыл бұрын
Mid mount = toilet bowl, mid mount means the lipo is inside the quad between bottom an top plate like a 210 grasshopper
@MunxFPS
@MunxFPS 6 жыл бұрын
such a beast Drib!
@FlyNRyanfpv
@FlyNRyanfpv 6 жыл бұрын
Bra you live in bando land! Awsome! But honestly that fusion is bomb. Great for holding a smooth line, especially in some wind. I would say dark matter skitzo is a flip machine, and the remix is definitely the most balanced! Epic flying as usual!
@pippifpv
@pippifpv 6 жыл бұрын
Can you make a toturial, how to fly and avoid propwash. Kind of how you fly, to work around the propwash.
@Greg-zg3vv
@Greg-zg3vv 6 жыл бұрын
On hang time and weight.. All other things being equal the weight won't change the hang time nor the distance gone. The air friction though will only depend on the volume and form of the object, the Archimedes effect will depend only on the volume of the object. To prove my first point in real you have to throw 2 objects of same volume and form factor but with different weights and you'll notice no difference, except if the light weight is so light that the Archimedes effect becomes predominent. The perfect example are rain drops : a very small one will fall slower than a bigger one. They both at terminal velocity will have the same form, so that doesn't explain the difference. The weight difference isn't the reason either in itself. The difference comes from the fact the weight will increase at cubic rate while the surface area defining the air friction effect increases at square rate. The smaller the water drop, the more effect of air friction relatively to the weight, thus the drop falling slower. Remember, F=ma, air friction adds a F^2 compared to m^3. You double the radius of rain drop, you have 4 more time air friction but 8 more time weight. Get your quad, add 3 cm of light foam around the battery. Then same quad, add 3cm of lead around the battery. Same volume and form, only difference being weight. Throw them from the ground at same speed and angle, they'll land at same spot. Laws of physics.
@robertkampf4993
@robertkampf4993 6 жыл бұрын
a heavier quad "travels" further because it starts with more kinetic energy and has similar drag to a lighter quad. the smoothest footage i believe you get if the camera is close to the center of gravity.
@P8FPV
@P8FPV 6 жыл бұрын
Sick flying Bro 💖👊
@Luzeon
@Luzeon 6 жыл бұрын
Dude! That backfill thru the v....????wah!
@Luzeon
@Luzeon 6 жыл бұрын
Oh. Ur fave...das guud.
@carpenterrick186
@carpenterrick186 6 жыл бұрын
Sick video D. Cheers!!! Top mount all the way!!
@AmpHibious
@AmpHibious 6 жыл бұрын
want a solution for your props in view problem on the remix? throw a foxeer legend or runcam 2 on there. you might get it in your FPV feed but the video should be 👌.
@ChristopherPunton
@ChristopherPunton 6 жыл бұрын
Top mounted battery all the way!!!
@kampkrieger
@kampkrieger 6 жыл бұрын
IT DOES NOT MATTER! Propellers are pushing downwards, but it is always the same vector wich goes throug the battery, so IT DOES NOT MATTER The only thing that matters is the distance to the center of mass, which causes more or less torque, but neglectable
@ChristopherPunton
@ChristopherPunton 6 жыл бұрын
@@kampkrieger yeah exactly what i mean
@rileyaok8604
@rileyaok8604 6 жыл бұрын
Ty for video, I have (2) of your quads, definitely used to a Top mounted battery. I am scared to try anything else... thanks alot! :P
@andrecpu
@andrecpu 6 жыл бұрын
This question bothers me now for a long tine^^ Thanks!
@topcatgc1
@topcatgc1 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome flow Drew
@headsmakfpv8364
@headsmakfpv8364 6 жыл бұрын
You fly with the precision of a scalpel. I fly like I’m throwing axes at water balloons. One day...
@neilfpv
@neilfpv 4 жыл бұрын
really cool color on your hair! I've always wanted to try but kinda a bit frightened since I've have thin hair
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