the irony....

primeholyassasin20 Well, Britain and Ferrari don't work. Ferrari & McLaren are the greatest racing teams in the world, and their rivalry has branched off into production cars, FINALLY.

primeholyassasin20 rip niki🙏

I suppose if that's the case, it's more comparable to Mika Hakkinen and Michael Schumacher, Mika was the quiet, calculated one and Schumi was more about passion and flair

Niki did win the F1 title for Mclaren in ‘84

Speciael? Seriously? Smh :/

Ja'crispy Diablo Yeah there both very special brands/cars

I know They are special brands, I'm just making fun of how you spelt special *facepalm

Ja'crispy Diablo Get over it, anyway you mispronounced face-palm

Wikipedia recognises it as 'facepalm', therefore I rest my case

I don't think we will ever get supercars that look like these anymore.. it was truly the last ear of super car design

Yep, I still consider the MP4-12C one of my favourite cars of all time (on pair with the Carrera GT, 918 Spyder the P1 and many more)

I completely agree. I was just thinking the other day about how the three of them are truly mesmerizing cars, especially the Aventador and 458. I can’t think of supercars in that power class made in the last 8-10 years that have genuinely shocked me with their coolness like them. They STILL look and sound like the covers were pulled back on them yesterday.

Yup as a kid, the SLS, Gallardo, 458, 12C were all my dream cars

Yup.. . That's one reason I love his shows and all the car reviews

still kind of a scary thing when doing circuit races

The grammar is pathetic in your statement

I think the deal is like their version of passion is making the car as best as they can with the tech available. Like to them making the mp4 so fast around a track was more important then making the traction control easy to turn off so you can slide it through turns

Kristof Alexy Then care to explain why they all look about the same?

Kristof Alexy That’s performance. Nothing to do with passion

@@Zak-ob5ze But it's still always better than your idiotic English tutor wannabe 'comment'

Corvette Z06 is faster than the MP4 12c zinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng. Cheerio governor

McLaren mp4 12c= 250,000 Corvette zo6 = 72,000 Pissed off Brits = priceless ;)

Tommy Rice whats the 1/4 mile time for the MP4 12 c? the new zo6 auto is 650hp 0-60 in 2.9s and 1/4 mile 10.9 at 127mph

thisguy177 unfortunately the zo6 can't go round a corner.

funnybunnyissofunny2 wait it can't turn a corner?????? lol that's all it does with those huge wheels.

Me! And I agree with you - but at least we saw them now and not say another 5 years later!

Legit laughed so hard, loved that so much.

U cant get them for 80k maybe 180k

@@natkobratko3198 You can actually get them from 60k upwards here in Europe. Really depends on milage and condition.

@@ldorman i litterly look at autoscout wich is the biggest european marketplace and the cheapest one is 100k

@@natkobratko3198 here in Dubai they sell them for like 60-70k USD for 2012-2013 models

80K? So you can get two mclarens for the price of 1 R34 lmao.

AXP Bonecrusher british miles to the gallon. For some reason they’re different and their numbers are more impressive

@@jonathanvictorica5816 Imperial gallons are bigger than US gallons. 1 Imperial gallon = about 1.2 US gallon.

Just stop being silly and convert to metric system

greathey1234 Wish we could

@@eddieyakin7173 in the UK they use litres at the petrol stations so why not km instead of miles?

That didn't age well!!

@@chunaychaudhari1718 you’re not wrong, but in 2011 Hamilton & Massa had a lot of incidents so he had some truth in it, (even if it was mainly for comedy).

Still relevant even today lol

@@DaaaaaymanGreen What is more true than anything today is that Vettel still spins A LOT

Hi Michael, reading your comment seven years later! I think you were absolutely spot on. I really like your description about, ''it'' and ''staring you in the face''. Anyhow seven years later and these McLarens are the best bargains in the suoercar world and I believe in another seven years they will finally be appreciated for the ultimate expression of precision we were capable of in 2010 ish. It is still staring people in the face, and they still don't quite, 'get it' . I'll check back with you in 2030.

@@martinda7446 Looking forward to it, friend. Thanks for the nice comment to read on a lazy Wednesday evening.

it reminds me of McLaren F1, especially when its in black

Me too

exactly

The front of the following McLaren cars are just ugly

exactly

Captpicard Just watch The Grand Tour. The second season is fantastic.

Captpicard well yeah

Yeah The Grand Tour was good. Loved how they killed all the celebrities in the first season.

How can you compare when you clearly have only had any experience with one of them?

Well written

$3 million worth of cars and probably had $300k worth of cargo insurance as per Ed Bolian's Vinwiki stories

Well of course for the average Joe like you and I getting into a car as fast as a 12C would be very exciting. But Jeremy isn't like you. This man gas been testing and reviewing cars for decades now. He's probably driven over a hundred supercars in his life so his prospective is definitely very different from yours. In comparison to other supercars he's driven it would make sense that the 12C is boring to him.

S-Boy it is boring to him in the sense that it is perfect

Yep!

.

Yeah

I want her

id want to sting

Clarkson says nobody ever put a whoopee cushion on the CEO's chair which is why the car lacked "zing" right ? Well someone had the bright idea to shove mustard up his arse and now they made the P1 which is the exact opposite !

It looks beautiful and practical; cluckson just wants his beloved space thrusters sticking out of the windscreen wipers to match those on his head

McLarens catch on fire...

so will the ne McLaren 650S!

Few years passed and I want to inform you that 720S has it all! yours sincerely, Human from the future.

T1000AX not as much as compettiters Ferrari and porches

And now here comes the Mclaren Senna

T1000AX It has zing. But a different zing than the Ferrari.

😂saying ..turbo v8s had more zing than a na v12 in all cars.R u in dream

@@saralshrestha5389 Talking about Ferrari as a whole. Cease and desists towards customers, and a stupid culture in F1 that gives them zero championships. McLaren are the fun team now.

well the 650S and its replacement to be unveiled are the 488GTB competition (and the 650S is also a 458 Italia competitor). the 675LT is the 458 Speciale competition though as it is the track focused version of the 650S

dennis cheruiyot yes but then you've got the 650s the 570s 570 gt 540c and what ever else there is . they all have the same chassis as far as I'm aware and same twin turbo v8 in every car from the p1 all the way down . I just feel they just want to sell as many cars as possible . good for business but very bad for residual values and demand for them

But, it's a Ferrari.

***** perfect response lol ;D

***** EXACTLY

***** and niki lauda said "it's a piece of shit".You know it if watch RUSH.

Jonathan Pratama I have, great film.

They're so over engineered, and honestly too refined.

@@ryze9153 And? They are a car for car enthusiasts, not just someone who wants a flashy status symbol like a Lamborghini or even a Ferrari these days. If you want a car that you can derive pleasure from pushing to the limit, then a McLaren is far ahead of both of these manufacturers.

@@combatwombat8581 I'm just sayin I'd rather have almost any other supercar than a mclaren.

@@combatwombat8581 true! And their used car is quite cheap, for example a used mp4 is cost 40-45% less than used 458 here in indonesia. Good bargain, good entry level to supercar world

@@combatwombat8581 not really, mclaren is known to be basically the least reliable in the supercar world, there are so many mp4s that need new engines transmissions etc for instance while something like the 458 actually has a solidly designed v8. mclaren is definitely much more refined in both styling and features with a lot less weird italian quirks but they do suffer a lot in many ways

Mainly is because it has a small engine a 3.8 liter and turbocharged so it's quite compact than the 458 which is a 4.5 liter NA engine. But still if you trash it that hard then it certainly going to be 10-12 mpg probably

That's basically false advertisement from the manufacturer. Real world normal highway driving is about 18-20 range per US gallon. Spirited driving around town about 10mpg and I got a bit over 4mpg on the track. The darn thing always needs a visit to the gas station.

I know. It's such a lovely sight. It amazes me how much is still hand made. It's truly a stand out product in a sea of automated welding machines and engines built on assembly lines. Maserati, too, shares a lot of the Ferrari-type infrastructure and manufacturing processes. It's what makes them worth the money in this day and age where fast cars are a dime a dozen.

What he means by that.. was Ferrari has a character.. of being twitchy.. hard .. etc.. while Lamborghini being fearsome and mad .. these flaws or A Quality is what make the supercars what they are .. and thus gives them a character... The McLaren in Jeremy's word .. did not have those factors that could make those cars have the characteristics of a human... Thus it was a bit dull even though it was faster

You and your friend are goddamn lucky.

Jeremy Clarkson does lol, he writes the scripts

Holy hell this comment was 8 years ago

The question you should be asking yourself is "Which interior holds up better to the fumes of cooking meth?"

World Known haha nice! I agree, idk what they're on about. Top Gear always has a problem with cars that are too good, cars that are damn near perfect. Purist af. They practically said the same about the Aventador. When did progress become a bad thing?

Aerophyle Yea he said that when driving the Aventador, he didn't feel like it was trying to kill him.... and that upset him.... Like that I really don't understand, since when do you want a car to feel like it's going to kill you?

World Known Hammond also said I believe "You have to drive the old ones to know what I'm talking about." I can agree that Lamborghini has lost some touch with the devil in their cars; but the thing pulls like a viper so I don't know why Hammond didn't like it.

Aerophyle to tell the truth i totally get what hammond is on about, its the same thing when people talk about the older F1 cars, they were more basic, less technological, it made you feel more in control but scared you so much more... in essence the older cars were more of an event to drive, more fun. Though i'll admit there is absolutely nothing wrong with an Aventador (Personally i have never wanted a car so much).

Lihao Hu Where'd the electric motor go?

Dilip Tien He meant McLaren P1.

AndrewMiller what do u think about the p1? (I know obviously not in video)

12c and P1 are very good.

Kang Ren don't forget the 570s ;)

12c is outdated the p1 is the new beast

Apples 37 yeah unfortunately, but it's still my favourite 👌👌

Agreed. Beautiful model. But I'd still take the 12c over it :P

chhdhhd That Ford is junk. Waste of money, no science, no physics. GTR is a better, smarter more reliable car.

chhdhhd Straight line is one of the story, most important is track. That Fox body Mustang will get rape around a race track by a stock GTR.

Well maybe it going in a straight line as fast as possible is a little bit boring.

me too,a masterpiece this is

Null I just love the way it looks

How do you know that the Ferrari's turned off?

+Van Romondt its pretty obvious...

because its sliding..

exactly

Toby Yuchuan Chu - The pathway

Well, I'd argue for the P1. That machine is murderously sensual.

The 458 is top quality

Idontwant Clearnames​​so what? Many people prefer z06 over gtr but gm prove they,re stupid. 12C is a well engineered car but hater always hate

***** 458 didn't handle better. The question is "do the driver understand the way McLaren handles"

Having driven neither, I can't comment on which one drives better overall. I think the McLaren looks better though, the new gen Ferrari's look too much like a bug...I think the 430 was prettier. On the lap time though: let's not forget that Ferrari sends cars which have tuned engines and non-stock tires to journalists so that it performs better. That means the laptime the Ferrari 458 posted was faster than it really would be for the customer.

True, same as Lambo sending the LP610 with Trofeo R tires to journalist for better lap times. Instead of standard tires. However, talks about drive dynamic, 458 may be better coz the 458 got limited slip differential and more camber angle vs MP4 open diff with electronics sensors to control speed between two wheels, works same as 997 Carrera S. Anyway, the MP4-12C did a very good job in kicking 458 ass on tracks.

+NISMO N ATTACK 東瀛戰神 I don't get why exactly brit's hate on this masterpiece... We purchased a MP4-12C Spider about 3 days ago, I don't even get what they're talking about? It rumbles! The scoops on the side door, and that big air-brake.. man it looks aggressive, and acts aggressive , but switch that powertrain + handling knob to Normal... and it acts like a Bentley... amazing!

You are 3 years two early

He 458 was the peak of V8 Ferrari”s

Until you've had the experience of riding in a 12C I wouldn't judge it too harshly...

It'll be fun to see you kicked by the 12C onvthe track? How much joy will you have then?

12C is nice but the Ferrari is just a masterpiece.

Aura Force Lol dumbest comment ever, you forget ther importance of the driver skills... a professional driver with an M3 can beat a normal driver with a Mclaren 675lt... Real world is different to videogames

And you forget that every car manufacturer builds their cars for certain types of people - MP4 12C was built for one type of audience, the Ferrari 458 for another. The thing here is personal prefference from the person who would drive one of these - If people look for fun, speed and passion, lets say the more "emotional" type of ride - go for the Ferrari. If you are more of a pragmatic, who loves precision, stability, control and just having a solid ride - go for the McLaren. Don't argue, it's all about buyers choice and what thrill they seek.

218mph actually, they just don't list it at that.

@@combatwombat8581 you'll be glad to know that in the 10 years since I made this comment, I finally got a car that does 0-60 faster than the Mp4-12c does 0-124!

@@TheBlackWaltz Haha nice! What car is it?

@@combatwombat8581 2015 mustang gt. It's great. No mclaren though.

@@TheBlackWaltz u literally comeback 10yrs later wkwkw never seen this type of comment on yt