TOPPLING AND TURN TRANSITIONS | Improving Carving Turns w/ Tom Gellie

TOPPLING AND TURN TRANSITIONS | Improving Carving Turns w/ Tom Gellie | Ep.1 Technique Teardowns

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Күн бұрын

If a world-class instructor watched you ski past, what's the one piece of advice they would give to help transform your skiing?
Wonder no longer! We've teamed up with Carv Ambassador and APSI Level 4 instructor Tom Gellie to bring you a new series of Technique Teardowns.
What's a Technique Teardown?
Get advice direct from a pro, so you're ready for a breakthrough the next time you're out carving the groomers, or tackling the off-piste.
The best bit? The next video could be you.
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For more how to ski content make sure to check out our other ski improvement videos:
- How to ski in tough terrain:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDFaq...
- How to ski with balance:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sdEF...
- How to ski with flow:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK6SC...
- Carving with early edge angles:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElOhJ...
- 4 Advanced skiing mistakes and how to fix them:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=04lRa...
- How to increase your edge angle:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYPxH...
Timecodes
0:00 - Introduction to technique teardown series
0:39 - First look at Aidans skiing
1:12 - Detailed side by side analysis
4:34 - At home exercise
6:22 - Take home tips
9:06 - Submit your own skiing footage for analysis
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@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Do you find this type of video useful? Please share any feedback in the comments ⬇️

@seph13x 2 жыл бұрын

This is fantastic and very useful. Please continue with doing these types of videos as it helps translate the technique difference between pro and intermediate/beginner. So helpful to see side by side comparison and explanation of what's going wrong.

@RealWoolfe 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tom, yea i think i do the same as Aidan, probably hurry the turn as don't want to build up too much speed?

@LonestarPaul 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tom&Carv- what I found particularly useful is actually seeing you losing grip at 4:30 as it made me feel soooo much better :D having said that, yes, it's interesting... let me see if I can shoot you some vides this winter as it is coming closer. Happy carving!

@mieshavonedellestein1304 2 жыл бұрын

Tom gellie is a hack. He doesn’t know the first thing about skiing mechanics or biomechanics

@HS-ob3fz 2 жыл бұрын

@@mieshavonedellestein1304 cool

@patrickmaloney8717 2 жыл бұрын

I have been an instructor for 35 years and I always come away from your videos with something useful. Best on you tube.

@fzee532 Жыл бұрын

I have been watching this video multiple times since it was released last year. After months of training and revisiting key moments, finally was able to understand and emulate toppling in Banff over the last four days. The sense of elation was hard to describe, to sum it up, immense joy . Thank you!!

@-Eternal-Damnation- Жыл бұрын

I just learnt to tople properly this season, incredible sensation of the ski catching you just before you hit the ground

@fzee532 Жыл бұрын

@@-Eternal-Damnation- Congrats! After the four days at Banff/Lake Louise, we skied another 7 days elsewhere. In general we are getting more stability, efficiency, less tired and more enjoyable after each day. Enjoy!

@-Eternal-Damnation- Жыл бұрын

@@fzee532 Thanks you too 😁

@spamman1638 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Tom. Excellent analysis and showing side by side comparisons with your carving is incredibly helpful. Really looking forward to practicing this more on the slopes this season. Thanks again.

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! All the best putting these tips into practice this season. ⛷

@spineguy444 2 жыл бұрын

Center of mass moves over the base of support toward the direction of the new turn - little toe pressure on the downhill ski initiates the new turn and with ski design carve you go!!

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Seems like you've got a good idea of how it all works 😉 Have a great winter ⛷

@paulmiller8590 2 жыл бұрын

I love the side by side views. Such the visual learner! Returning to the sport, new hip, long story. Its all about the physics. Sailor wintering on the slopes. My take away, trust. Trust your edges, gravity, and your knees!!! Those three will do the work.

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Paul! Glad you enjoyed this style of content. Stay posted as we have a few more of these videos on the way this winter 👍

@simonpearceuk Жыл бұрын

I’ve been using the CARV for a month and I love it. Tom’s videos are a fantastic accompaniment to using the device on the mountain. I find myself watching Tom’s videos during the week after work and then going out with the CARV on weekends to try it out. Really fantastic stuff, some of the best ski lessons I’ve ever had (and I was an advanced skier to start with).

@PompeyBoy66 Жыл бұрын

Really useful. Thanks

@evgenyy2502 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks from Far East of Russia! :) Perfect explanation for curv improvement!

@Bigpictureskiing Жыл бұрын

Awesome 👏

@jlee4039 2 жыл бұрын

This is SO helpful. I do exactly what Aidan does… 🤦‍♂️

@btang3869 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video and I love your illustration, will try to do it next time I ski, Thanks a lot

@joemygawd 2 жыл бұрын

Love it!!!

@OrdinaryWorld 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Tom. I really began to focus in on the "toppling" feeling last season. It reminds me very much of riding a motorcycle through the twisties and the flow associated with flipping back and forth to balance the forces through the turn. I gave up riding around 12 years ago and took up skiing shortly after. There's no doubt that my passion for the latter was fueled by my passion for the former. The sensations are very similar.

@Bigpictureskiing 2 жыл бұрын

I think many people are hooked on the fantastic feeling we get from sports who turning involved. Surfing, biking, skiing, skateboarding and the list goes on. Funny how we just love the rush you get from it. Really glad you’ve found skiing and have had some fun doing it.

@shannaveganamcinnis-hurd405 2 жыл бұрын

@@Bigpictureskiing so true.

@Dr.Twisty Жыл бұрын

The motorcycle analogy is EXACTLY what I thought of too! Toppling is like getting off the bike before the turn “preloading” before the lean. Makes the turn effortless.

@OrdinaryWorld Жыл бұрын

@@Dr.Twisty I was out yesterday, and it seems that CARV too like the motorcycle analogy as they now use it in their tips!. If it makes sense, right?

@yuurishibuya4797 Жыл бұрын

This is super above my level of understanding. All i can take away and understand is keep the edge connected as much as possible.

@tinyskier6250 2 жыл бұрын

very useful, comparison is the best ... don't know so much if it's toppling as letting the turn complete itself, set the edge and let it do it's thing, most people are too impatient and feel they have to physically actually do something to make the turn happen ... when the secret is ... you don't. if more people would practice on the baby hill as opposed to the more advanced, they'd probably pick it up much quicker ....

@Bigpictureskiing 2 жыл бұрын

Good point about the turn completion being more patient for the skis to keep finishing the turn. This will help the topple hugely just like counter steering helps people on a bike lean in more effectively. Thanks for your comments.

@1234CDAB 2 жыл бұрын

Super video!

@Dr.Twisty Жыл бұрын

Such a good explanation of toppling to initiate the turn. Thank you!!!

@Bigpictureskiing Жыл бұрын

Did you try it out?

@Dr.Twisty Жыл бұрын

@@Bigpictureskiing Hey Tom! I did try it out-total break through in my skiing!!!! Toppling before changing direction and edging has made the subsequent early edging and turn almost effortless and I felt like I was on rails through the turn. What a feeling! Thank you so much. You’re awesome. I so much appreciate what you do for us skiers.

@anderslangoks3813 2 жыл бұрын

I have to say that I've watched a lot of skiing videos, but yours are the most helpful and have improved my carving wonderfully. Thanks.

@Bigpictureskiing Жыл бұрын

Thanks Anders

@MaxiStandUp 2 жыл бұрын

Don't comment ever a youtube video but this is worth it. After watching more than 20 video channels, this is the best. I personally think these explanations could be much better explained focusing on foot treads most importantly on transitions during turns. I perhaps speak without any expertise, but as a soccer coach, I feel I would love to have these indications to improve. Many many thanks. Great Video !

@alpinstef3566 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a great video! Very helpful. I am a new skier and I tried the toppling technique the last winter and it worked. This season I will focus more on "avoiding twisting the skis" for nicer c-shape turns.

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped! Stay posted as we have more technique tear downs like this one on the way shortly. All the best putting these tips into action ⛷

@simonbrady5904 2 жыл бұрын

Another great tutorial Tom. Having only used Carv for 7 days I have struggled with re-calibrating my technique and focus. I am a technical skier and find your “tear downs” very useful. In trying to improve my ski iQ through early edge angle, I am rushing the turn. Looking forward to following this advice.

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful Simon! Let us know how you get on and reach out to us with any questions you have, happy skiing with Carv! 🎿

@rickrussell6188 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. The concept of change edges, create pressure, and steer " guide" the ski still hold true. Steering the skis towards the fall line to start a turn will usually, create problems for a smooth cross over or cross under. The concept of creating energy with the ski, similar to a bow and arrow and using that energy to shoot you into the next turn, and how you manage that energy is fun to watch my friend.... Be the ski an old friend told me ....

@petervandersluijs9256 Жыл бұрын

Great way of explaining these things this way. These mistakes are also my problem for many years and don’t seem to get any better. But this definitely helps me to grasp what I do wrong and why. Thank you!

@Bigpictureskiing Жыл бұрын

Always helps seeing a comparison

@robertgrant6837 2 жыл бұрын

Great videos Tom, I have watched your videos over and over and I think the trick to carving is being able to drop the hip into the hill (angulation not inclination) to increase edge angle to make the ski do the work but not excessively bending the knees while increasing edge angle. I will be heading west tomorrow and skiing by Thursday and hoping to try the CARV for the first time. The fore aft weight balance is also paramount to making the ski bend and create the arc. I will get back to you after I have some CARV results.

@mikelarsen267 2 жыл бұрын

Very helpful indeed thanks Tom. LF to getting back out there!

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful Mike! We have a few more of these technique tear-downs on the way so stay posted 👍

@mrcj1981 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, looking forward to seeing more of them 👌

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! We have more technique tear-downs on the way so stay posted 👌

@otisregatoni617 2 жыл бұрын

Well explained. Mucho appreciated Tommy.

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Otis, We are glad that you found this video useful! Stay posted as we have a few more videos like this on the way shortly ⛷

@dinoferrini2625 2 жыл бұрын

well said mate

@gairnmclennan5876 Жыл бұрын

Tom some things that really helped me get carving from your videos this year were sharp edges, RC4 Fischer slalom ski's and not too steep like just a green or blue slope. Plus loads of leg strength. It's very hard work and very rewarding. I can carve all mountain ski's now but just so much easier on SL or stiff carving ski's short length really gets a vast amount of G forces, be careful all the blood will go to your feet 🤣. Also let your back build strength as it's like lifting your own weight in the apex of each turn. Ski racer's are experiencing 3G's ! That's like squatting triple your weight. Proper carving will accelerate you, you will get a lot of speed on a blue slope 😜

@Beech1900pilot 2 жыл бұрын

I discovered toppling last year too. Purely by fluke. Well, more a process of playful experimentation really. I was cranking out a series of short turns and was feeling particularly energetic and at one point I felt like I was going to fall over and the outside ski would engage and catch me so to speak. Then I would rebound into the next turn and repeat. I enjoyed the sensation but didn’t know if it was what I should be aiming for or quite the opposite. Good to find confirmation in videos such as this.

@nickswampah3272 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the lesson!

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful Nick! Stay tuned for more ski content 🎿

@sickair45 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome coaching! Will you do a video on how to control speed on fast cat tracks? I find it scary to go on narrow long cat tracks because I pick up too much speed and don't have a lot of room to turn because of the narrow run (with a cliff on one side) and other nearby skiers. Thank you!

@hestermanfan Жыл бұрын

Slash to scrub speed by pivoting your skis

@MrRavenski23 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Tom. I have just watched your video, I ski more or less like the guy in yellow pants, my ski angles and ski tips directions at the very start of the new turn show the same faults and to try to correct I will keep watching your video until the snow comes .

@roy87345 2 жыл бұрын

This is super helpful!

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it Mike! Stay tuned for more ski content 🎿

@doBobro 2 жыл бұрын

Great teardown! On screen drawing vastly helps to follow explanations.

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful Anton! Stay posted, as we have more videos like this one the way 👍

@justinrfogarty780 2 жыл бұрын

Generally you know I am not a fan but I agree with your analysis. Well done.

@onlinewen 2 жыл бұрын

This is very helpful. Thanks.

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Wen! Stay posted for another technique teardown coming soon 👍

@wjames2000 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent analysis.

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks James, Stay posted for more videos like this coming soon 👍

@seyoungj 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, More of this on the way, so stay posted ⛷

@snackwelln7292 Жыл бұрын

Awesome explanation🎉

@Bigpictureskiing Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@harrybob2682 2 жыл бұрын

He really trust that glass!

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

You have to trust your equipment! Stay posted for more ski content 🎿

@Bigpictureskiing 2 жыл бұрын

Haha

@languagetruthandlogic3556 2 жыл бұрын

This is brilliant - thanks for posting. Instruction using this approach is a breath of fresh air - a blueprint for future development of the sport. Too many of us are still haunted by ghosts of past ski technique ( 1970s in my case!) These ghosts still appear in some instructor's repetoire - it is a bit like the old Chinese whispers game. Can I ask your opinion on stance width please as there are many ghosts still haunting this subject. Great videos - looking forward to more. Keep safe!

@Bigpictureskiing 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your positive feedback! Stance width for me effects a couple of things. Narrow encourages quicker edge to edge movements. Narrow allows you to use your legs to stabilize against one another Wide can help give stability through base of support platform but most good skiers do this for only a short period in the transition as it also gives them options of when they switch the pressure from one foot to the other. Look at Kili Weibl for an excellent example of using wide stance in the transition. Narrow is fine for short turns and moguls and even carving to an extent. Look up Dave Ryding so see a World Cup slalom skier with a very narrow stance ripping it up and his stance not effecting his skills. For me I find I ski narrower in general as is actually happens as a result of some of the points above.

@languagetruthandlogic3556 2 жыл бұрын

@@Bigpictureskiing Many thanks for your reply. The examples certainly demonstrate what you are saying. I asked the question because I get annoyed when instructor trainers (UK) still insist on the outdated approach of using a wide stance as standard. As you say, stance depends on situation ( moguls. powder etc), on our natural biomechanical balance and what feels right in the moment. My approach is that if a skier is skiing efficiently then the stance is right for them (not legs glued like the Austrian wedel c. 1970s). I always get a bit demoralised / annoyed when told to widen my stance for no good reason. Thanks for giving me a better perspective. Keep safe and fingers crossed for a great season. Thanks again.

@normalizedaudio2481 2 жыл бұрын

You should go on Australian Survivor TV show. That would put you in the big time. Free style skier was on it. She was unreal at the Olympics.

@SuperQuayle 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! Stay posted as we have a few more videos like this on the way shortly ❄️❄️❄️

@carchey79 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, yes very helpful Tom. I appreciate how you break down the physical dynamics of the body movements and the relationship to the ski-snow interaction. This will help me in my own skiing and my movement analysis as a ski instructor. Thank you and keep them coming.

@falllinemaniac 2 жыл бұрын

I know what you mean because I have learned this movement on skis. The crossover is a powerful and should be a basic movement skiers learn. Your explanation and analogy can work for some. It looks confusing to folk who aren't as spacial-body aware as who can understand this analogy. I like the topple idea. You need to promise clearly the skis will always come around to catch you or most won't trust this. You come off as vague. I use the Center of Mass (beltline in the front center) versus feet idea. Intermediate skiers COM follows the feet. Crossing over is thrusting this body part COM using solid core muscles diagonally forward across the ski fronts is much easier to visualize. A tight movement will dramatically bring the skis around reinforcing the muscle memory. I've even taken to diving forward over the skis in particularly steep powder runs. Learning the difference between a crossover versus the crossunder is the key to line choice. Once this movement is drilled into muscle memory, the crossunder is just a perspective away.

@daviddunnigan8202 2 жыл бұрын

What Tom does in his skiing but does not discuss as much is the movement of his hips. Goes by several names, most common of which is counter rotation, allows him to maintain balance and keep edge pressure on downhill ski. Think of rotating hips/pelvis towards the downhill ski. The hip closest to downhill side will naturally drop inwards and down…manage that tension to either shorten or lengthen the turning arc.

@jimt1575 5 ай бұрын

It looks like you start the topple as you are moving pressure from the back of the skis to the tips to initiate the next turn.

@David-tg8ku 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent advice.

@patrickpurcell3671 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again Tom very helpful I've been practising this now at Perisher.

@Bigpictureskiing 2 жыл бұрын

How did it go for you? What did you notice as an outcome ?

@patrickpurcell3671 2 жыл бұрын

I have been toppling for a while now by softening old downhill leg and moving my body across my skis at start of new turn. Your vidoes Tom have helped me obtain better edge engagement throughout whole of turn with increased edge angles, more angulation and smoother turns by staying centred on skis after crossing fall line. Thanks again Tom.

@Bigpictureskiing 2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickpurcell3671 so welcome 🤗

@neutrspec 2 жыл бұрын

Why is there no other coach who ever mentioned the concept of “toppling” on KZfaq? In the practice after I heard this word and got its meaning in Tom’s clip, I learnt how to carve. Furthermore, it is very helpful in improving angulation and counter.

@Beech1900pilot 2 жыл бұрын

There are you just have to search it out. Paul Lorenz has another very good video on the topic. Not to take anything away from this video. It’s always good to seek out multiple explanations in my opinion.

@yonyon972 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Tom, great advice. I love your approach and all your tips. I like the idea of initiating the new turn with the new inside (= old outside) going into the center of the new arc, and I pretty feel how much it really helps to practically achieve the crossover. My question here is what is the best direction to look for with the new inside knee, between the current skis' direction and fall line (that would be too abrupt). I kinda feel in between. Do you have some recommendations about it ?

@Bigpictureskiing 2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s a good cue to use to for the crossover. What I’d suggest is making sure as you move the new inside knee across you make sure it doesn’t create a rotation of the foot underneath it. When you do this well it feels like your knee points inside the new turn more than the foot. Just like I explain with the demo in the lounge room. Most people don’t have great control of their inside foot at the too fo the turn. They skid it by twisting it and can’t edge it cleanly. Work on that part and the crossover becomes even more powerful and accurate to out you on your edges early

@mieshavonedellestein1304 2 жыл бұрын

I’d be impressed Tom if you could explain this “Toppling” in terms of an Acceleration, what’s happening with the static and kinetic friction

@kevinmurphy8644 5 ай бұрын

Hi Tom - love your vids and the have got the Carv insoles - the feedback is excellent- One question please - on the outside ski - is the pressure more away - or should it be down into the edge - Thanks - Kev M

@thirdpedalnirvana Жыл бұрын

How do you go over the top of your skis without just face planting in the snow? Do you just need to have faith that when you put in enough angle the skis will catch you?

@mieshavonedellestein1304 Жыл бұрын

NO you have to flap your arms real hard, like a Canadian Goose, then you will stay upright. That’s the secret.

@markmd9 2 жыл бұрын

Damn COVID 19! I want to ski this year but this year again we have restrictions of traveling

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear this Mark. Hopefully things are made easier for you sooner rather than later. In the meantime, we hope these videos have helped keep the passion for skiing alive.

@stevie5903 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative, I thought maybe the skier was sort of caught between quick short radius and pure carved turns. I view the two totally separately with different core aspects. Would be great to see the same guys after your drills. Cheers again for the vid

@Bigpictureskiing 2 жыл бұрын

I’m hoping to see Aidan skiing too this winter and see how he implements the advice. Hopefully do a follow up including what he experienced and how he felt it different

@c6moneypit8 2 жыл бұрын

Does it help to visualize your skis moving momentarily in a forward direction as you transition and start to move your weight inside the new turn? Would this help slow down the urge to pivot the skis when initiating the new turn?

@Bigpictureskiing 2 жыл бұрын

It actually helps to visualize them continuing turning in the direction of the old turn. So like an anti-turn to intiate. Fore and aft wise you would want to be holding the skis back as that means your body will be getting ahead

@user-eh8ui2co8h 5 ай бұрын

Hi Tom, what if I want to perfect shorter turns to slow me down BUT I dont want jump turns or anything too "dynamic". A sort of slow-short turn. At 75 years I ski well but need something "soft" to slow me on blue runs. [Australian 'blue']

@eslofftschubar206 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, I've had a discussion with my friend a few days ago about how to initiate a carve. I do it by putting weight on the outside ski, making myself unstable towards the inner of the curve and letting the ski angle with me. I sometimes also push with my outer leg to give me better grip. My friend though, tells me that I should be initiating the curve by rotating the ski with the legs. I feel that my carves are done correctly based on the critique on the video, but I still would like to know if I am using the right technique.

@inquistive Жыл бұрын

If you are wanting to carve then your friend is wrong. When carving you never actively rotate the ski with the legs. In simple terms, in order to carve, you put both skis on their edges, with most of your weight on the outside ski and then wait, be patient, wait for the skis to turn by themselves and resist the temptation to help them to turn. They will turn for sure. In order to deal with fear, start off on a very gentle slope so that you can prove to yourself that the skis will turn if you just put them on an edge. Once you know it works then you can move to slightly steeper slopes. If you want to tighten the turn shape then you need to put the skis on edge even more.

@mmcollins3 2 жыл бұрын

Well done! Would have liked to have seen a side or profile view of Aidan. I suspect he has a very upright spine angle that is inhibiting his ability to maintain good fore-aft balance which maybe contributing to the early pivot and difficulty pressuring the outside ski through the apex of the turn. Just my two cent. Keep up the good work Aidan!

@mieshavonedellestein1304 2 жыл бұрын

Which direction is the Normal Force professor Gellie

@kevinmurphy8644 Жыл бұрын

Hi Tom - I have Carv - have you a Tip please - what prevents me from toppling is the feeling I’m going to fall over - any tip would be hugely appreciated- as it’s a massive setback for my ski progression- thanks in advance- K

@mieshavonedellestein1304 2 жыл бұрын

The way your explaining this, the skier must have only one turn radius depending on the ski being used. A professional skier can change the desired carved arc (turn radius) to a short arc a medium arc or a long arc depending on the skiers intention.

@inquistive Жыл бұрын

And your point is?

@andyc.6239 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, new skier here. Is this toppling feeling and subsequent rebound what the ski manufacturers call "pop"? Really great explanation on the technique, thank you for this video!

@Chames07 2 жыл бұрын

What did the outside ski say to the inside ski? -“can I have a turn?” I would suggest that Aiden will struggle with inclination given his outside ski has basically zero pressure at the top of the turn. Even though the advice in this video is very good in theory, I disagree with its application. A focus on inclination in this specific case might make Aiden’s primary mechanical ailments even worse. Id be curious to see a follow up video.

@Bigpictureskiing 2 жыл бұрын

I’m also curious to see a follow up. The reason I didn’t suggest outside ski pressure is because Aiden knows about this. In fact nearly every intermediate who’s had a lesson is told about this. Why he’s exhibiting the things you see as faults can be down to other factors and for people to move forward in their skiing giving them a bigger picture of where they are going will help him go out and experiment and find some new feelings. When people seek outside ski pressure aggressively early in the turn it limits their inclination and ability to create deflection. Aidan’s goal is specifically to aim for higher edge angles hence the focus on how to do that.

@Chames07 2 жыл бұрын

I see your reasoning, well said. I would argue however that having more pressure on the inside ski limits inclination greater than seeking aggressive outside ski pressure at the top of the turn. But, I also know that the 10 best coaches in the world could watch a skier come down a hill and all have different opinions on how to fix their skiing, and they’d all be right- so I digress. In any case, you’re actually trying to help people while I’m sitting here and just criticizing so I’ve officially become what I hate about the internet therefore I digress completely.

@Bigpictureskiing 2 жыл бұрын

@@Chames07 well I really appreciate the way you communicated. And that makes it come across to me that you’re just expressing your opinion just as I am. As an anecdote I spent a whole season starting all my turns for the first 1/3 of the turn on my inside ski. I saw this from Takao Maruyama in an old video lesson he had and could see how doing that would help learn how to create higher edge angles earlier and therefore build even bigger amounts of deflection across the slope in a short turn. It was encouraging the same sensations as I describe in this technique tear down. My short turns improved and my long turns improved in regards to dynamic side to side motion. Especially on steeper slopes. Had I continued to focus on outside ski pressure i wouldn’t have discovered this. And at the end of the season it was easy then to just incorporate outside ski pressure once I’d learnt to really get inside the arc.

@gogglebro9421 2 жыл бұрын

@@Bigpictureskiing Tom, you mention Takao Maruyama and how following his example, you practiced initiating turns on your inside ski. May I ask you how much pressure you found that you needed to put on the inside ski during the first 1/3 of the turn for this technique to help your carving? I’m asking because, as you point out, when you’re toppling you still have to maintain contact with the snow, and my impression is that would be principally be the inside ski if its the lead ski entering a new turn. I hope my question makes sense to you. //Marshall

@Andreonis624 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Tom, What if during that toppling you feel like your ski is sliding because it can't stand your pressure that you put on that ski? Does it mean that i put too much pressure ? Does it mean that i try to angle the turn too fast ? Does it mean that the snow is a little bit too icy? I'm usually skiing on Poland's mountains where the temperature is very often over the 0°C during the day and falls down usually up to -10°C during the night causing the snow being a little bit icy, since during the day and because of the sun snow is melting a little bit. Also what i feel and noticed is that when i wait for skis to turn with toppling and i don't let them slide (so basicaly i dont force a turn) i gain a lot on speed for some reason - how do i handle such situation because the skies dont seem to turn really quick but do a big angles..? Love your's vids! Cheers!

@Bigpictureskiing 2 жыл бұрын

This is hard to answer and why video is so helpful. What you’re describing I’m not exactly sure I understand clearly. Sorry about that. During the toppling sensation at the turn initiation I don’t feel like there is much pressure at all its really only the weight of my body balancing on the ski edge if that helps so you could be trying to apply too much pressure. But again video of what you’re doing is probably what’s needed to give a better answer

@roneymahoney1794 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, I'm Roney, from Brasil I will stay in Austria in March 18 /22 and I would learn ski course, is it possible with you. My English is don't very good What you think? Can you help me?

@sunny689 Жыл бұрын

No discussion of where his shoulders are in relation to his feet. His back is straight. Yes he is stiff.

@amundekroll7490 2 жыл бұрын

When you bottom out so early in the turn you can not have a good transition.

@CarvSki 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your insight Amund, There are clearly a few things for Aidan to work on next season, so we focussed on just a few high level points for him to get started with. Would you be interested in seeing a follow up 'one year later' video to see his progress? Have a good winter ⛷

@jamesallenparkes904 4 ай бұрын

Based on your use of Mikaela Shiffrin and yourself as examples of great skiing that your student skier should do - the question I have to you is why does Mikaela state "Move Forward In Transition"? You make no mention of this in your recommendations!!!!

@user-es2zj8xc3y 2 жыл бұрын

Ну почему не Лия всё это перевести на русский?!!!

@mieshavonedellestein1304 2 жыл бұрын

Tom into the falline Aidens inclination is fine, the problem is that he’s not balanced properly over the turning ski. YOUR NOT TOPPLING in. He has to learn to Ballance on the turning ski to set the edge. Aiden has no Edge set therefore he can’t carve. More speed will help and lifting the inside ski to force him to Ballance on downhill turning ski. TOM there is no FREEFALL and there is no Tipping. He has to learn to trust that the turning ski will engage the snow, only then will he be able to lean in more to create more edge performance. I have a feeling his skis are not sharp and he may have some canting problems

@thesportmachine2369 2 жыл бұрын

Ok Tom here is something you sensored me on Facebook. There is NO such thing as toppling in Skiing. Unless you consider Toppling to vertical a phenomenon. The leaning tower of Pisa is not called the toppling tower of Pisa for a reason, toppling implies Falling Over, we are not falling over in skiing. What a GP motorcycle race are the racers Toppling into the turn, NO. They are leaning into the turn because of centripetal force. We “feel” this as a centrifugal force. When we transition from one turn to the next, we go from An Inclined/angulated position to a perpendicular position 90deg to the SLOPE of the hill, then we slowly move to the inside, NO TOPPLING.

@thesportmachine2369 2 жыл бұрын

Also for something to topple it must be stationary, we are in Motion when we ski so we are LEANING.

@jgande3342 2 жыл бұрын

..suspect all about flexibility/strength in the knees and hips and most once a year ski folk (including aging me!) are just not flexible enough.. product of static lifestyle..

@amundekroll7490 4 ай бұрын

Bu you lost the chance to take advantage of the potential kinetic energy.

@justinrfogarty780 2 жыл бұрын

I see that the student has limited ankle flexion and his stance is too upright . He needs to stay low at the link and initiate with the inside ski and stack his hips . If he is balanced then he can move in. Toppling without setting up the base will simply result in an upward impulse with no effect on the edges to increase angles through the arc.

@mieshavonedellestein1304 2 жыл бұрын

And once you are entering the falline you are Leaning, not toppling. Once again using incorrect vocabulary

@Skedawg88 Жыл бұрын

Leaning implies banking, so I believe Tom's term toppling is appropriate. That said the video is clarifying.

@mieshavonedellestein1304 Жыл бұрын

Hey James, so Toppling DOSNT mean banking, DEFINE BANKING? How could I disect Banking into Inclination and Angulation? How could I dissect toppling into Inclination and Angulation? If im toppling, am I not falling over. Why isnt the Leaning Tower of Piza called the toppling tower of piza smart ass

@Youreout 2 жыл бұрын

Why don't you so called experts look first at the dude's alignment. Fix his stance (boots) and this guy will be an expert himself in one run. I'd bet money on that!

@Bigpictureskiing 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you that some boot alignment will help. Everyone should get their boots aligned well. However Changing him to perfectly aligned boots would not change his movement pattern or way that he is thinking about initiating a turn. Ive spoken with Aidan after this and he said this idea in the transition/initiation is something he has not thought about. So weighing up whats most important I personally felt this was a good piece of information for him to take away.