The Tops B.O.B. in 1095 can withstand just about any hard use within reason. The mistake i spotted is that you grinded the spine to 90 degrees. In doing that you weakened the integrity of the knife. The BOB is only heat treated on the grind, the spine is kept softer for batoning. If you wanted a 90 degree spine with the added strength of heat treatment? You could go with the Tops tanimboca puukko or the 3.5 inch BOB with the heat treated 90 degree factory spine. Tops will tell you themselves not to modify a 90 degree spine on the BOB. Its not the knife that failed its the modification.
@aaronjones66802 жыл бұрын
The shango notch is used to scrape a ferro rod, just like you do with the spine of the knife. Why people think you need to strike a ferro rod like its a flint and steel with it is beyond me. Knives, especially the thinnest portion of a knife (the tip), are not pry bars.
@leslassiter6378 Жыл бұрын
The blade is four and a half inches, not five. That and..... A KNIFE IS NOT A PRY BAR, lol. I'm only half joking, but there is a good chance that you ruined the heat treatment in the tip while grinding the spine flat. In general, I'm against altering knives as they come from the factory. It often doesn't end well. If you don't like some aspect of a knife, then buy one that suits you better. I really don't understand why people are so obsessed with using their knives to strike a ferro rod. It's a much simpler matter to link a steel striker to the ferro rod which was designed for the purpose. The truth is always simple.
@jpyles3215 жыл бұрын
I have tip tested these and had no issues. You can look at other reviews where these are tip tested and they don't fail. So it may just be a manufacturing flaw in that particular knife, either way TOPS will replace it for free, so no big deal.
@BaconNBeer6 жыл бұрын
You have to admit after beating it through a bunch of really hard hard wood and it still shaves! The tip will grind out no big deal. A great knife. Shyt happens.
@gavingaming1237 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your honest review, I was considering this knife but this has been a shock man ! I may have to look back at the LT Wright Lagom. Subbed your channel. All the best from Scotland. Garry
@walkaboutoutdoors72287 жыл бұрын
+GD yeah LT knows his stuff top quality, it may cost a little more but you definitely get what you pay for, heirloom quality.
@vi3tluong6 жыл бұрын
My tops bob tip broke off as well. And to be honest I have no idea how it happened. I didn’t even use the tip of that knife. All I did was baton it. Weird. Any how I feel that heart pain you felt when I saw mine was broken.
@jessr.2490 Жыл бұрын
After just mentioning how folks should make their survival knives their own, you could stop carrying on about how the tip broke unexpectedly and instead demonstrate how to fix that snapped tip with a grinder. Grinding the spine down to fix the tip would make the blade shape more of a drop/spear point, which frankly would be better for bush-crafting/survival anyway. I’m about to get one of these in 154cm which should be stronger than the 1095 version.
@dualsportedc4 жыл бұрын
I think I’m gonna have to get one of these and test it myself
@masterchief5864 жыл бұрын
I have one of these knives, it is still a great knife brother. The tip is only 1/32 of an inch. No big deal, just grind it out to a sharp tip once more
@csh62207 жыл бұрын
The BOB has a scandi grind WITH a secondary bevel (modified scandi is what Tops calls it). If you sharpened it like a scandi with the bevel flat on a stone, that would make the tip much thinner. I think that might be what happened to your tip.
@rickatill445 жыл бұрын
aint no way in hell " id take any knife that i paid good money for abuse it for no reason " i could see in a absolute survival situation beating a knife with a club lol buy a axe thats what its designed for if ya look at its tip its not 3/8 thick !!! why take a chance when theres no reason too .... i love my tops bob and i treat it with respect "
@aleisterbroley9003 жыл бұрын
Better to try it than wait until your life depends on it and find out that your baby is a hothouse flower.
@benningsniper9516 Жыл бұрын
@@aleisterbroley900 there's no reason you'd ever have to do that with a knife
@dash84653 жыл бұрын
Move on to the Esse 5...
@MrSrtman185 жыл бұрын
Isnt it warranteed?
@shadetreetrades.jackofall21886 жыл бұрын
Watch Nutnfancy ‘s videos. He has dealt with many!!!!! More knives than probably either one of us. Or mostly anyone for that matter. And, he summarizes it perfectly. He will even tell you, you’ll always have knives fail. It just happens. You’ll eventually hit a bad production. Or stress it to much and eventually it’ll break. Even the best of knives. So the trick is to enjoy what it does well, treat it with respect but use it. And enjoy. Don’t hold it against it or be afraid of ever gett no that brand again. Just shit happens man. Good luck.
@Hootyhoo-jq9vq3 жыл бұрын
One of the coolest review vids. Broke it on the review.
@scottnorvell29556 ай бұрын
They’re great knives if you don’t abuse them. Nothing wrong with the knife. User error.
@dylanwinningham48292 жыл бұрын
mine hold up fine and mine is the stainless one.
@frankconsidine59896 ай бұрын
Have not had any problems with mine either 154cm model
@aaahbeeeh33746 жыл бұрын
:D oh damn. dont get me wrong, but that was pure comedy, i laughed much. that cracking noise of the tip by accident and your reaction. happened to me once on a spyderco endura in vg10, wanted to pry a metal plate, dumb me. so i thought 1095, as cheap and rusting as it is, is bending before breaking usually? ah tops, what are u doing. such expensive, bulky, super thick blades, military style and then the tip breaks off when dropping into wood? i mean a 15€ mora holds up way better. well to be fair, we all dont know, if the tip was intact before or already slightly damaged. what remains is the bad feeling and a continuing, never ending search for "the" knife. or is the 154cm version better in this? very curious what they answered, gotta find the vid. thx for uploading.
@Wildwestwrangler5 жыл бұрын
Did you send it back and try again?
@denisdegamon82244 жыл бұрын
Just either file or use a dremel and cut in a half moon notch into the top of the chaingo notch. Works fantastic and only takes a couple of minutes
@brunocavallina62913 жыл бұрын
It’s a Top Bob 154 CM?
@jgarvey633 жыл бұрын
1095
@chocolateface86646 жыл бұрын
so you a welder? is Jaybee welding pay good?
@benningsniper9516 Жыл бұрын
Chris Tanner? Dude is a joke. Can't expect to throw his name out and be taken seriously. And then a dumb tip test? Yikes.
@aleisterbroley9003 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but that shallow stab and light twist wouldn't break my five dollar steak knives. For a company marketing their knives as survival tools, this is unacceptable. I'm in love with the designs, and was about 24 hours away from ordering at least one TOPS, probably the MSK and either BOB or Scandi Trekker. After seeing this, and some Amazon review pics of hollows in the grind, I think I'll pass.
@1989inception6 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t do that with your knives anyways! Tip test is stupid in general! That knife was beautiful until you intentionally tried to break the tip, an then was upset by the results..?
@walkaboutoutdoors72286 жыл бұрын
+Dominique Lawson it was a okay knife ,nothing special. I would rather the tip bend then brake. I just do these reviews for fun and to see what a knife is capable of. I have knives from battlehorse, LTWRIGHT, and survive knives gso,that are high quality and would just laughed at this testing. Those are the knives I carry all the time, and can trust my life on. God bless
@wrjames386 жыл бұрын
I agree. ..Don't understand these videos where people get made when the knife breaks or gets damaged under heavy abuse. JMHO
@lesamourai7776 жыл бұрын
I must disagree with some of the commenters about testing the tip. The tip of a knife is essential in bushcrafting, and thus hard testing of the tip of a purported bushcraft knife is essential. Thank you for this review. It confirmed my experience with 1095 as a relatively brittle steel, tending to chip and break rather than roll and bend. Thanks again for sharing this video.
@W49Boowie5 жыл бұрын
You started off saying how great the knife was, then you broke it, and then you reply to Dominique, that it was just an ok knife! Are you some kind of moron! That was a hoot!!! God bless
@condorkon79285 жыл бұрын
no... its not stupid. just by looking at the profile someone should know if it was designed to take abuse on a tip.. like digging into wood. very useful for Many things. good examples would be the tops rhino or condor rodan. you can dig with them all you want. horrible examples of tip tests would be the majority of bowie style clip points. or a moras, virtually anything with a fine pointy tip. if someone used a fillet knife for a tip test they should probably avoid polluting the Earth with chidren.
@matejmatej35545 жыл бұрын
You could still gave it away to someone but you just don't want to and it was never your intention
@terryshrives83225 жыл бұрын
That tip should have never broke with that little tip test. That isn't what I would even call a tip test. The tip test I do are much more rigorous then that. Thats terrible and it dont say much for the heat treat.
@stepabove21365 жыл бұрын
Just watched your review there may of been a bad heat treat on that knife it shouldn't of broke that easy I bet They will fix or give you a new knife I don't think you did anything wrong good review keep up the good work.
@Airik1111bibles7 жыл бұрын
Its because the scandi thickness on the belly to the tip is to thin, its only thick on the spine side but instantly tapers to a thin edge. Tip testing scandi knives is a big risk esp on treated lumber. They need to make the grind a bit smaller on the up sweep, look at a Mora companion or better yet the Hultifors heavy duty knife. Both knives have a smaller grind size but the Hultifors stands out the most. That BOB is an easy fix and it would be tougher than ever after its done, send my way ile fix it 😉
@BaconNBeer7 жыл бұрын
I would like a scandi/convex edge on that knife. I doubt it would have broke. If it was me I would start to work a convex edge it to work out the broken tip. Shyt happens it could have been anything. I just bought one of these but have been looking at a Bark River Bushcraft for the scandi/convex but I got the B.O.B. at a really great price. What can you do?
@Airik1111bibles7 жыл бұрын
BaconNBeer Watch "virtuevoice" he's that guy from Japan who puts scandivex on everything. There is an easy way that gives your scandi more strength on the edge, a loaded strop will convex a scandi very quick. When stropping back and fourth letting the leather slightly roll over the edge it will get a micro scandi bevel. BUT this does take away a bit of the instant deep bite, BUT it also cuts very smooth and makes beautiful feathers. I just made a strop bord and used steel polish it works great.... That BOB should be pretty strong cause TOPS 1095 is excellent, I would use the knife hard but safe and see if it rolls or chips, if it dont I might just leave it be. Its all about what you want from your knifes performance.
@schlooonginator12276 жыл бұрын
Meh, a small regrind and its all good as new. Pretty sure Tops do a differential heat treat on their knives where the hardened part usually runs throughout the tip area and the softer tougher section along the spine. This combined with the heat involved in the grinding may have over hardened the very tip. This should not dissuade anyone from this knife. I like to watch tip tests because I do find them interesting but would never do it with my own because I see no reason or use where that is needed. Bummer but definately repairable. That knife is still a great knife IMO and I would gladly have it.
@infamous12375 жыл бұрын
schlooonginator Yh it’s called a differential heat treat
@adamchristner0075 жыл бұрын
Can u make my fieldcraft like urs just ordered 1
@The11eleven4 жыл бұрын
“Worldly known” lol, no man... it’s World-renowned
@zoomer101xue73 жыл бұрын
This is why i dont tip test. I always assume ill break it.
@adamchristner0075 жыл бұрын
Can u send me a knife im a poor white guy trying to get my bug out bag together i didnt realize how much money it cost to make one and my problem is finding a good knife i just ordered a fieldcraft for my first knife and now i might regret it so i just spent 136 on it and nothing ever goes right for me tho o well the rest of my tax money down the drain ugh i might just send it back and go with esee 4hm as planned im 5'3" tall im thinking folding saw hatchet esee 4hm or fieldcraft just thinking esee now idk what to do im bout to give up
@God8-O7 жыл бұрын
So anything but a "tip test???"
@yaktexas21217 жыл бұрын
so if you were going out into the wilderness and could only take one, would you grab the BOB or the Bushcrafter? assuming the tip didn't break
@walkaboutoutdoors72287 жыл бұрын
+The Wood Stove Gun Channel Out of those two I would take the bushcrafter because it's a premium knife steel and I wouldn't have to worry about it rusting. Also, it's a sabor grind instead of a scandi so it has a stronger edge for all around use. I have several other knives that I would prefer over both of those though such as the GSO 5 by Survive Knives and the Bushman by BHK.
@yaktexas21217 жыл бұрын
Walkabout Outdoors I'll have to check out the gso 5. I've never heard of it. I've had several other knives as well but after getting the bushcrafter a few years back I've never even looked at much else
@willfitzsimmons89557 жыл бұрын
Walkabout Outdoors Would you consider making a video of your GSO? I have the B.O.B. as well and will be getting a GSO 5.1 once Survive! has them on preorder again. Can't wait. In the meantime, I actually just added a finger choil to my B.O.B. a week ago. I like a forward choil and I really like how it turned out; I am on the same side as Cr0cket20 in that I like a good choil on my blades. May add a ferro notch as well to it. I like what you said about not being afraid to modify your gear. You have to know it and trust it. Thanks for the video!
@walkaboutoutdoors72287 жыл бұрын
+Will Fitzsimmons Yeah I will put my GSO 5.0 video up soon with the sheath configuration and you have compelled me to do one on my GSO 5.1 also which is an amazing knife that I'm sure you will love. I do agree with you I like a finger choil on larger knives to assist with finer tasks. Thanks for watching. God bless.
@ajarrell39197 жыл бұрын
I now have a tops bob black for sale or trade. Warranty is why I own almost exclusively ESEE now. Love that scandi but I really use knives, I am not brutal on my gear but I dont have time in survival to worry about the blade in the moment. Sorry bro this has happened to you. Best wishes.
@walkaboutoutdoors72286 жыл бұрын
+A jarrell yeah its really hard to beat a esee knife. There just a all around workhorse, with a astounding warranty. The only way to get one as good or slightly better is going custom or paying a lot more for like a survive knives gso, and that's just for the super steel. I love them and still have them in my packs with my customs, God bless
@Adam666...5 жыл бұрын
Esee for sure
@High-hopes7 жыл бұрын
Not a big deal, maybe a more fragile batch... weird, never happend to me, and i really beat the S out of it.
@riccartwright56236 жыл бұрын
yes me to had my for 2 years beat that thing to death and still one of my go to knifes
@joecraig52165 жыл бұрын
Same, I’ve beat mine pretty hard never had an issue
@markanthonystringfellow39236 жыл бұрын
Great Job!!! When a 12 Dollar Mora Can Take WAY MORE Abuse, (Finer Profile and Same Steel) There Is No Point :-))) in Such a Heavy Knife. I also saw one of their Knives with More Twists than a Corkscrew after a Battoning Test By Equip To Endure!!!
@123123boobies5 жыл бұрын
And i saw a video of a guy baton with one and it broke it one or 2 hits. Moras ARE NOT hard use knives what so ever
@benningsniper9516 Жыл бұрын
You're both wrong
@pbcb5615 жыл бұрын
Well this review got real...real quick. If you watch this shop tour of TOPS factory (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gLhnfq-I3ZzFiZs.html) you can see that the blades are differentially heat treated..by hand. I'm sure the guy doing it is an expert, but if he really isn't measuring the temperature of the blade then one can see how he might overheat the tip and make it somewhat brittle. But good on TOPS for regrinding the tip for you and salvaging the knife.
@joshuamoses16314 жыл бұрын
Jakkari puukko knife is still my favorite.
@benningsniper9516 Жыл бұрын
Amazing knife
@TheRingoKid6 жыл бұрын
Tops will take care of you brother
@web11875 жыл бұрын
prob can't bc he modafied it
@MrSrtman185 жыл бұрын
Im not gonna lie. I dont trust a guy that says that 10 times in a 20 minute video. Im not gonna lie
@rockcityprepper91346 жыл бұрын
It's a great knife but you jammed into treaded lumber. Your fault not the knife
@walkaboutoutdoors72286 жыл бұрын
+RockCity Prepper funny the LT Wright had no problems. Nor do my battlehorse knives or my survive knives gso, and that's why I carry them, and can trust my life on them, God bless
@bobbybulan84725 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha American quality hahahaha yeh...... I'll chose a Chinese product over any American made product any day hahahaha the usa products are best featured at harbor freight store hahahahaha