Tora! Tora! Tora! (1970) (My favourite scene from this historical film) with B-17 Flying Fortresses

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Mark 1333

Mark 1333

3 жыл бұрын

Most historical films are made with many inaccuracies. Tora! Tora! Tora! (1970) is NOT one of them. This is my favourite scene in this film.
SPOILER ALERT If you haven't seen the film yet, you may want to.
If you think you have heard of December 7th 1941 and the attack on Pearl Harbor, this gives you the story from those that were there on both sides, the drama, the daring, the mistakes and the tragedy.
Whilst the ships in the harbor were being bombed, so too were the airfields, and that's when a flight of B-17 bombers, not fully equipped after a long flight, came smack into the middle of the attack.
You couldn't make this up and out of all the lines in this film, the squadron leader says all my favourite lines, with my particular favourite being the first one: "what the hell kind of traffic control is this?"
Other, of my favourite lines are from actors Neville Brand and Martin Balsam - the latter who's particular line has gone down in history.
*Warning: Contains a racial slur today considered offensive, used in historical context here and after WWII, when it was deemed as offensive, its use was dropped dramatically.
You can find these film clips mentioned that I like in a playlist on this channel here:
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@Ulfcytel
@Ulfcytel 2 жыл бұрын
The flying in this film is outstanding. No CGI there!
@kaljatonttu4666
@kaljatonttu4666 2 жыл бұрын
Yea. Only large scale RC and coloured WW2 footage of actual "one paw" landing.
@williamivey5296
@williamivey5296 2 жыл бұрын
Trivia: One of the technical advisers on the film was Minoru Genda. He's not credited because the studio was afraid of veteran protests if it came out that the planner of the attack was working on the film. When the planes took off at dawn from a stand-in carrier off the coast of California, he's reported to have jumped up and down with excitement, shouting, "That's just what it looked like!"
@rimrunz1795
@rimrunz1795 9 ай бұрын
Too bad there wasnt a vet there to knock him on his ass as wz jumping w excitement. Pretty fn inappropriate to even b that way, film set or not. He should have been weeping with remorse, not jumping gleefully.
@NapBoney
@NapBoney 2 жыл бұрын
Can we all appreciate the great B-17 pilots for this film? Those are some pretty evasive maneuvers.
@williamivey5296
@williamivey5296 2 жыл бұрын
As others have pointed out, the B-17 landing on one wheel was real due to a gear failure. That footage was filmed by a cameraman who was rushed out to the runway and placed in a hole near it, with an assistant holding onto his belt, ready to yank him down into the hole if the B-17 headed their way. The scene of the plane approaching and the wheel kissing the runway, though, was done later by a very brave and skilled pilot to provide a lead-in shot to the actual crash landing. You can see the difference in film quality between the two. Another "lucky" accident occurred when the USS Nevada (a set on a barge) was supposed to pass in front of the camera as explosions went off. The explosions actually started by accident before the set was in front of the camera, while stuntmen were in the wrong positions to be safe. So by the time it appeared on screen, those stuntmen really were running and jumping to save their lives. The director and film crew were worried they'd wasted a very expensive setup, but the studio execs congratulated them on a very exciting sequence once they saw the footage. I still have a copy of American Cinematographer with a bunch of articles about the filming.
@blank557
@blank557 3 жыл бұрын
Mad respect for the stunt pilots cranking those B17's like they were fighter planes.
@GaryCameron
@GaryCameron 2 жыл бұрын
I've flown on a B-17. Pretty crazy.
@SnepBlepVR
@SnepBlepVR 2 жыл бұрын
A film so damn accurate that even though the B-17s are the focus of this scene in the directors cut they have a radio operator in the ATC tower trying to help panicked dauntless pilots who where patrolling the ocean out to the carriers and had to stop at hiccum to refuel. And that was pretty much the only thing added to the attack for the directors cut because other than Dorie Miller acting as a medic that was the only thing missing from that film
@raymondyee2008
@raymondyee2008 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading the full scene where the B-17s come in. The fact that they even omitted the B-17s coming in when I saw the 2001 "Pearl Harbor" movie was just one of so many historical inaccuracies when compared with "Tora! Tora! Tora!".
@Tank50us
@Tank50us 3 жыл бұрын
to be fair, with so few even flying, would you chance flying one to Pearl for an on-location shoot? Cuz I damn sure wouldn't
@Deevo037
@Deevo037 3 жыл бұрын
As historical representations go Pearl Harbour was pathetic. Tora Tora Tora shits all over it.
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer 3 жыл бұрын
You mean like the scene in Pearl Harbor where they're donating blood into Coke bottles? That's not historically accurate?🤪
@Deevo037
@Deevo037 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnRodriguesPhotographer Neither is the scene where the Japanese attacked the hospital but they included it anyway. That's the sort of jingoistic and patronizing bullshit that this film had in buckets. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbucqqd1yqe1fnk.html
@user-ed8wc1yr8s
@user-ed8wc1yr8s 3 жыл бұрын
あなた?どこの国ですか? 何故?敗戦する事が悪いのか? 日本は、アジアの為に戦ったのです。 反省などしません 反省するのは、無差別爆撃をやった 連合国です。反省するべし! 二発の原子爆弾は、人体実験です! you? What country are you in? why? Is it bad to lose the war? Japan fought for Asia. I will not reflect Reflecting on the indiscriminate bombing Allied. You should reflect on it! The two atomic bombs were human experimentation!
@road-eo6911
@road-eo6911 3 жыл бұрын
Man, if only they could remaster the sound effects! This movie is awesome
@serdarmehter8663
@serdarmehter8663 2 жыл бұрын
Thousands times better than the recent digital shitty movies.
@JohnBeebe
@JohnBeebe 3 жыл бұрын
The scene were the two men are running from the burning tanker, they really are running for their lives, the effect had gotten away from the team
@t.webner2466
@t.webner2466 3 жыл бұрын
Stationed at Schofield Bks, 25th INF. , 93-96. Those hangers are still there, holes from zeros, ... still there.
@starguy2718
@starguy2718 3 жыл бұрын
What a way to fly into a war: unarmed and out of gas.
@dalliskal4827
@dalliskal4827 3 жыл бұрын
A recipe for high losses
@ronaldjones398
@ronaldjones398 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Best Line
@Deevo037
@Deevo037 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldjones398 Actually I like this one better. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sKikYMioy9KvfqM.html
@am5p8
@am5p8 9 ай бұрын
I was just thinking - I wonder whether this changed anything. When ferrying planes between bases, were they armed in case something happened ?
@dragdragon23
@dragdragon23 3 жыл бұрын
This is still the better of the pearl harbor movies, It does a better job of showing both sides view at that time.
@apooyosucks
@apooyosucks 3 жыл бұрын
...and no pointless love story
@susanesquer1520
@susanesquer1520 2 жыл бұрын
True!
@chandabinarand6054
@chandabinarand6054 2 жыл бұрын
@@susanesquer1520 8k yes we
@boiledliddo
@boiledliddo 2 жыл бұрын
very true
@hx20games77
@hx20games77 2 жыл бұрын
Even midway showed pearl harbour better
@clevlandblock
@clevlandblock 3 жыл бұрын
It's been said that this production cost more 20th Century Fox more than the actual attack cost the Japanese.
@user-ed8wc1yr8s
@user-ed8wc1yr8s 3 жыл бұрын
あなた?どこの国ですか? 何故?敗戦する事が悪いのか? 日本は、アジアの為に戦ったのです。 反省などしません 反省するのは、無差別爆撃をやった 連合国です。反省するべし! 二発の原子爆弾は、人体実験です! you? What country are you in? why? Is it bad to lose the war? Japan fought for Asia. I will not reflect Reflecting on the indiscriminate bombing Allied. You should reflect on it! The two atomic bombs were human experimentation!
@road-eo6911
@road-eo6911 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ed8wc1yr8s Say that to the Chinese! それを中国人に言いなさい
@user-ed8wc1yr8s
@user-ed8wc1yr8s 3 жыл бұрын
@@road-eo6911 世界に訴え続ける!日本は、世界一誤解され 中共のプロパガンダに犯されているからな!
@road-eo6911
@road-eo6911 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ed8wc1yr8s (これをグーグルで翻訳してください、私は日本語を話しません) I hate the Chinese Communist party too, but the massacres the Japanese Army did in China is undeniable, however the nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are also war crimes. Please do not deny the genocide that Japan did.
@user-ed8wc1yr8s
@user-ed8wc1yr8s 3 жыл бұрын
@@road-eo6911 南京虐殺は、中共共産党のプロパガンダです。 現地にいたニュヨークタイムズの記者・南京の 中立地帯に避難していたアメリカ宣教師・ ナチドイツ士官国民党軍に軍事支援の打ち合わせで日本軍攻撃に鉢合わせする。 彼らの証言でも大虐殺は、ウソです。 確かに500人の国民党軍が市民化けてスパイ・テロ工作を企んでいたので南京市民の首実検で テロリスト工作員容疑で銃殺刑にしてのが 中共のプロパガンダで偽っりが世界に広がりましたが正式には、偽りである事がアメリカ 公文書に載っている。 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ld1-Z9WAzZ6qh4k.html
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 3 жыл бұрын
A quick note for those who don't know ... during the filming of the B-17s one of them had a REAL in flight emergency, the bird with the stuck landing gear. The production company filmed the landing and incorporated it into this movie and into Midway. No one in his right mind would have suggested deliberately crash-landing a Fort, but this was one of those unplanned things you take advantage of.
@nickmitsialis
@nickmitsialis 3 жыл бұрын
I always liked that remote controlled P40 that was supposed to coast down the runway and get blown up==it started to veer off course and had to be detonated early to avoid it running over some stuntmen==who, it shall be said were running for their lives, for real.
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickmitsialis Hell, I'd have been running too!
@nickmitsialis
@nickmitsialis 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertf3479 Yes! There was no need for 'acting'!
@markboyles8019
@markboyles8019 3 жыл бұрын
Robert, twentieth century fox actually did suggest it. They actually wanted a landing with all the gear up, but the owners, an outfit called Aviation Specialties in Mesa, Arizona wouldn’t do it. Too much damage to a working airplane. 12 propellers, four engines, all increasingly rare, and pretty extensive structural damage. You’re right, though, it was a real in flight emergency. Hmm, how did you know that? Do we know one another?
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 3 жыл бұрын
@@markboyles8019 I don't think we know each other Mark. I don't recall exactly where I heard about the in-flight emergency, but I strongly suspect it was while I was stationed on Oahu 1976 - 80. I spent a full year on Pearl, working in the basement of the Shipyard HQ building, actually in what used to be the offices where Commander Rochefort and his 'Spooks' did their code breaking and traffic analysis that paid off quite well in June of '42. While I was there many of the aircraft hangers were still standing on Ford Island, many unchanged from 'that day' right down to bullet holes still in walls and windows and unrepaired pock marks in the apron concrete. This was when I found out about the USS Utah memorial on the far side of Ford from the Arizona. Wife and I were both active duty Navy and got to see a lot of history that most tourists don't get to. One day before we get too old we would like to get back to Oahu for one more visit.
@michaelmaxwell1523
@michaelmaxwell1523 2 жыл бұрын
lived in hi when they filmed this, my dad was stationed at barbers point nas, went out there & got pix of me standing next to p-40s & b-17s - decades later i took a ride on b17- they also filmed scene of sand bag mg nest on beach at out caphart housing project beach, then were transfered back to mainland & saw the east coast premire in dc!
@guidoharmeling5872
@guidoharmeling5872 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion this is a MUCH BETTER version of the attack on Pearl Harbor than the version of 2001. Computeranimation sucks ! This is THE REAL THING !
@LBF522
@LBF522 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. What should have been a good movie they turned it into a soap opera with a needless love triangle.
@zulkanainbaharuddin2185
@zulkanainbaharuddin2185 3 жыл бұрын
The Pearl Harbour 2001 is not a war movie. But of a Bollywood movie.
@challenger2031
@challenger2031 3 жыл бұрын
What a classic
@baragon01
@baragon01 2 жыл бұрын
What a wink for the " Memphis Belle " Movie ;).
@soundwavs1961c
@soundwavs1961c Жыл бұрын
3:26 REST IN PEACE TO THE B-17 TEXAS RAIDERS AND A P-63 KING COBRA AND THE PEOPLE ABOARD THE PLANES, BOTH COLIDED AND CRASHED ON NOV 12 2024 AT A TEXAS AIR SHOW PERFORMING THIS SCENE. AND THE B-17 WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THE ONE WHEEL LANDING TOO. SOOOO SAD :'( 😢✝
@Hale-Bopp
@Hale-Bopp 3 жыл бұрын
this is 70's film but the special effects here are still way more better than the present day Philippine movies with special effects made by computer.. 😂😂😂
@road-eo6911
@road-eo6911 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!! Heneral Luna was garbage!
@apooyosucks
@apooyosucks 2 жыл бұрын
As a Filipino-American, I can 100% verify this XD
@kmm-studioz8161
@kmm-studioz8161 3 жыл бұрын
Bomber @ 3:23 " - Aight, Imma head out."
@user-ed8wc1yr8s
@user-ed8wc1yr8s 3 жыл бұрын
あなた?どこの国ですか? 何故?敗戦する事が悪いのか? 日本は、アジアの為に戦ったのです。 反省などしません 反省するのは、無差別爆撃をやった 連合国です。反省するべし! 二発の原子爆弾は、人体実験です! you? What country are you in? why? Is it bad to lose the war? Japan fought for Asia. I will not reflect Reflecting on the indiscriminate bombing Allied. You should reflect on it! The two atomic bombs were human experimentation!
@pentameteriamb6196
@pentameteriamb6196 2 жыл бұрын
This is the BEST of a n y Pearl Harbor movies...
@ivorharden
@ivorharden 2 жыл бұрын
The landing gear failed whilst they was making the movie, so they decided to film it and implement it in the final cut.
@lemmdus2119
@lemmdus2119 2 жыл бұрын
WTH kind of traffic control is this?!😆
@THEMAN-ru8ek
@THEMAN-ru8ek 2 жыл бұрын
This Movie is just like a Pearl Harbor Movie that I'd seen before.
@gabrielernestoortizmedina5139
@gabrielernestoortizmedina5139 Жыл бұрын
Great movi tora tora
@jonathancruz5932
@jonathancruz5932 2 жыл бұрын
80 anniversary attack on Pearl Harbor
@gianpaologasparetto5288
@gianpaologasparetto5288 3 жыл бұрын
01:18, 01:36, 02:13🔝
@marlaruce
@marlaruce 3 жыл бұрын
The officer, a lieutenant, who received the telephone call from the person manning the radar about large formations of aircraft northeast of Hawaii simply said they were probably B17 and didnot bother to report the reported sighting to his superior so that appropriate validation would have been made and the results communicated to the Fleet Admiral and the Commander in Chief of the Army in Hawaii. Had this been done, the Americans could have spoiled the Japanese sneak attack and save most of the 2,400 lives lost and minimized the injured not to mention the naval ships lost.
@singularity-6339
@singularity-6339 2 жыл бұрын
But it's B17 that actually flown in during the attack. There's no official declaration of War announced nor rumour of war during the time and it's Sunday morning. Even the radar report been relayed the result would end up the same, it would be ignored.
@t.macrocosm1831
@t.macrocosm1831 3 жыл бұрын
Nice editing trick for the B17 crash landing.
@trumpandjj484ever5
@trumpandjj484ever5 2 жыл бұрын
Pearl Harbor 80 years.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv
@MichaelWilliams-mo1vv 3 жыл бұрын
This was a good film for the period in which it was made.
@ussindianapolis487
@ussindianapolis487 3 жыл бұрын
and its still best pearl harbor movie
@drakashrakenburgproduction5369
@drakashrakenburgproduction5369 3 жыл бұрын
Far better than Michael Bay's insult of a movie.
@soundwavs1961c
@soundwavs1961c Жыл бұрын
2:50
@kgblagden
@kgblagden 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is really nit picky but those p-40s are the wrong variant. They should be P-40Bs.
@benjaminbuchanan7151
@benjaminbuchanan7151 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you look closely they tried to resemble the B variant by adding fake cowl guns, but they are still mostly modeled after the E
@sharadnahiyal6480
@sharadnahiyal6480 2 жыл бұрын
Movie name ???
@riccardobalbo234
@riccardobalbo234 2 жыл бұрын
It's in the title of the video
@kamleshgurjar2022
@kamleshgurjar2022 2 жыл бұрын
@@riccardobalbo234 sorry brp we are indians😂
@Deevo037
@Deevo037 3 жыл бұрын
One thing about that scene that did bug me, that last B17 may as well have tried to land and evacuate the plane. Unarmed they had no chance against the Japanese fighters in the air.
@user-ed8wc1yr8s
@user-ed8wc1yr8s 3 жыл бұрын
あなた?どこの国ですか? 何故?敗戦する事が悪いのか? 日本は、アジアの為に戦ったのです。 反省などしません 反省するのは、無差別爆撃をやった 連合国です。反省するべし! 二発の原子爆弾は、人体実験です! you? What country are you in? why? Is it bad to lose the war? Japan fought for Asia. I will not reflect Reflecting on the indiscriminate bombing Allied. You should reflect on it! The two atomic bombs were human experimentation!
@boiledliddo
@boiledliddo 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also surprised they decided to keep flying. Should have just landed, and the crew try to escape by running.
@Deevo037
@Deevo037 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ed8wc1yr8s "What country am I in?" Australia "Why?" Because I was born here. "Is it bad to lose a war?" In some ways yes. "Japan fought for Asia." Actually Japan fought for Japan. "I will not reflect." Really? "Reflecting on the indiscriminate bombing." Yes, just ask the British, or the Germans or the residents of Darwin. "Allied. You should reflect on it." No argument from me. "The two atomic bombs were human experimentation!" As were some of the atrocities commuted by the Germans not to mention the Japanese in China. We can't undo the past, only learn from it.
@hagenvontronje69
@hagenvontronje69 2 жыл бұрын
To Ra To Ra To Ra
@fazsum41
@fazsum41 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone ever notice their is a f4u corsair blown up in the film? 0:22
@Deevo037
@Deevo037 3 жыл бұрын
A bit hard to figure out what that wreck was.
@EastAsiaExplore
@EastAsiaExplore 3 жыл бұрын
omg i see it, i remember the coursair tail
@clevlandblock
@clevlandblock 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not a Corsair tail
@limbo930
@limbo930 3 жыл бұрын
Guys
@limbo930
@limbo930 3 жыл бұрын
Where American b 29 bomber
@user-is7tv6em9i
@user-is7tv6em9i 2 жыл бұрын
Pearl Harbar attack!
@abinhvang8234
@abinhvang8234 3 жыл бұрын
This is
@user-ui1lw5zr8u
@user-ui1lw5zr8u 2 жыл бұрын
Try again!
@rothbj1
@rothbj1 3 жыл бұрын
2:36 Kevin Bacon lookalike
@TheOnePhillip
@TheOnePhillip 3 жыл бұрын
A fact you wont read in the history books. Japan left the oil tanks undamaged. If they had hit them it would have taken over 2 years to replace that oil. But Japanese pilots were ordered not bomb them.
@gaborkiss1425
@gaborkiss1425 3 жыл бұрын
Why was that?
@buzaldrin8086
@buzaldrin8086 3 жыл бұрын
@@gaborkiss1425 "Japanese confidence in their ability to achieve a short, victorious war also meant other targets in the harbor, especially the navy yard, oil tank farms, and submarine base, were ignored, since-by their thinking-the war would be over before the influence of these facilities would be felt." "At a conference aboard his flagship the following morning, Yamamoto supported Nagumo's withdrawal without launching a third wave. In retrospect, sparing the vital dockyards, maintenance shops, and the oil tank farm meant the U.S. could respond relatively quickly to Japanese activities in the Pacific. Yamamoto later regretted Nagumo's decision to withdraw and categorically stated it had been a great mistake not to order a third strike."
@BananaPhoPhilly
@BananaPhoPhilly 3 жыл бұрын
@@buzaldrin8086 So their own egos were their demise.
@buzaldrin8086
@buzaldrin8086 3 жыл бұрын
@@BananaPhoPhilly Those egos took a big hit in April 1942 - the Doolittle Raid. Two months later a true disaster for the Japanese navy: Midway.
@Fordnan
@Fordnan 3 жыл бұрын
@@buzaldrin8086 LOL - I 'heard' you reading that in the style of a high-pitched American narrator from the 1940s.
@ramlidjali1184
@ramlidjali1184 3 жыл бұрын
American was not Ready for war or They let the Japanese attack first?
@deutschpanzergrenadier7990
@deutschpanzergrenadier7990 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? They let.
@hhale
@hhale 3 жыл бұрын
Completely not ready. Intelligence networks didn't talk to each other. Military was behind in just about every category of aircraft, weapons, vehicles, and tactics save for a few notable exceptions (heavy machineguns, heavy bombers, trucks as examples). Not enough of the stuff we did have that was adequate. No, the Japanese saw their opportunity and they took it. They got very lucky...and unlucky. Because the American carriers weren't in port (unlucky). On the other hand, they also managed to achieve complete surprise against an enemy that had they had their act together should have been able to spot them coming (lucky). The local American commander in Hawaii was more worried about Japanese saboteurs than a Japanese attack, which is why many Army fighters were lined up perfectly to be bombed (very lucky). Everything you see in "Tora, Tora, Tora!" is factual or based on actual events. Never put down to conspiracy what can be easily explained by stupidity.
@deutschpanzergrenadier7990
@deutschpanzergrenadier7990 3 жыл бұрын
+@@hhale Enterprise was delivering 12 U.S. Marine F4F-3 Wildcats to Wake VMF-211. Lexington was delivering 16 Scout Bombers to Midway. Saratoga was being refitted at San Diego. Had they been caught off the coast of Oahu or in Pearl Harbor they would have been sunk. Wasp, Hornet and Yorktown were in Atlantic. Americans had not yet conceived concept of carrier task force. Which was a Japanese concept.
@hhale
@hhale 3 жыл бұрын
@@deutschpanzergrenadier7990 I should have said the Enterprise, thanks for the correction. Interesting story there: www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-trending/uss-enterprise-wwii-pearl-harbor/
@Mark1333
@Mark1333 2 жыл бұрын
80th anniversary (7th December 2021) of this attack marked in the USA (short) here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iJlhoJCQq8Dbd5s.html
@romanojansz9642
@romanojansz9642 2 жыл бұрын
Chinese war plane mig15 vs Indian city
@user-ed8wc1yr8s
@user-ed8wc1yr8s 2 жыл бұрын
The teachings of the samurai's soul do not let others take control of life and death! It is the duty of the strongly born to help the bear. I was taught and fought for the descendants of my parents, sisters, younger brothers, and wives. 侍の魂の教えには、生殺与奪の権を他人に握らせるな! 弱気人を助けることは、強く生まれた者の責務である、と。 教えられ、父母妹弟・妻の後世の産まれてくる子孫の為に戦った kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbh7qquVm5_Udn0.html
@mr.brooks8913
@mr.brooks8913 2 жыл бұрын
Okay 👍
@user-ed8wc1yr8s
@user-ed8wc1yr8s 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.brooks8913 okay my love愛
@LASR71
@LASR71 9 ай бұрын
Ah, the good old days when there were plenty of B17 to use and abuse, lol
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