Tormach VS HARD Hastelloy X

Tormach VS HARD Hastelloy X | CNC Machining

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@Livedracersteve 5 жыл бұрын

Titan: “Tormach please don’t hate us” Tormach: *laughs in free advertisement knowing the machine can take it*

@nihilisticman 4 жыл бұрын

There is no free advertisement

@forloop7713 4 жыл бұрын

@@nihilisticman yes there is

@huongang1642 5 жыл бұрын

Nice to see metric in video

@roberthughes-games2986 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the metric!! Makes me wonder why im cutting so slow in 4140

@TheTrueMayhem88 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for including the metric values as well. It's very helpful to me being a CNC operator in Norway. It's very helpful and provides me the extra knowledge that I need every day. I hope to see more of that in the future. Love your series on how to machine those extra hard alloys. Keep it up. Boom!

@dws_damiansworkshop 5 жыл бұрын

Thumbs UP for metric. Please explain more about cutting pressures and vibrations and stuff, not only feeds and speeds, but why they are like this. Thanks

@jacobacostamasterscribe2200 2 жыл бұрын

Basically by pressure he’s saying a smaller stepover/ radial depth of cut, keep a deep axial depth of cut and just walk the tool slowly. If you can image a bigger radial depth of cut, the machine is literally pushing the tool sideways into the material harder. So a smaller stepover is less “pressure”

@jamesm3268 5 жыл бұрын

Holy moly you guys finally added metric! Congrats on joining the rest of the first world :D. Great stuff keep it coming!

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

BOOM!!!

@ostry599 4 жыл бұрын

@@markocaric1024 Yeahh...Big tanks to nazi german sciencist like von braun.

@adyx_xd 4 жыл бұрын

@@markocaric1024 sad life af.

@gaBposheB 4 жыл бұрын

This is nasty , pain in ass material. I am used this in 2004. This was disaster, anything what used coming doll after 2-3 passes in Haas lathe.

@aronandreas 3 жыл бұрын

@@markocaric1024 have to give you that one. Metric still moves the biggest construction around. Troll platforms 👍

@stefanhertweck 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Titan. Having both, Metric and Imperial units is very helpful. Good to see that you cover Tormach as well as Haas and DMG. I also appreciate that you develop and appreciate your team.

@dirkjanvanvliet 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for metric guys! Now I can really understand everything 😁

@mikelang4191 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent! It's more about understanding tooling feeds and speeds and tool pressure just like you said. I've been doing my best to teach this to people for ages. I did an .400 depth adaptive tool path with a 1/8 end mill in 17-4 and it worked perfectly. Everyone thought I was nuts.

@icabod3374 5 жыл бұрын

Great videos Titan! I learn something every time I watch one!

@sosaltysereezy 5 жыл бұрын

*Respect mr titan. U have my respect. Never thought u could achieve this on a tormach*

@Saadchauhan1 5 жыл бұрын

You did a great job by adding metric chart absolutely loved it

@dariofritschi1427 5 жыл бұрын

Finally mm and m for speeds and feeds now i dont have to calculate thank you so much 😁

@gopalakrishnanm4225 5 жыл бұрын

We are metric guys...

@oboe0007 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you soooooooo much for the metric!!!!

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

Your soooooooooo welcome!

@igorbarbarossa 5 жыл бұрын

@@TITANSofCNC *you're

@68648 5 жыл бұрын

Stoped the video to thank you for adding metric. Now I'm going to resume

@jacobgrayson8262 5 жыл бұрын

Made my day that the metric units were included in this video!! Man I want a Tormach haha

@jakub.686 5 жыл бұрын

It's very nice you show parameters also in SI units Thanks

@themechanix393 5 жыл бұрын

I second that :)

@Ryan_1997 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome man 👍🤘 They're truly fortunate to work there.

@waynemacgregor5086 3 жыл бұрын

i know nothing about cnc machining , but i always watch your videos, such a strong team , titan you are the kind of boss i would like to work with, always positive & helping all

@matthewgowan7546 5 жыл бұрын

Now we've got all the application videos on milling, and drilling difficult materials, it'd be good to see the same done for turning. OD turning, ID turning, face grooving, radial grooving, and parting. Maybe seeing some adaptive turning with button inserts, or prime turning if you use it?

@zejtroj 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely amazing! Love Your work!

@tighttanium2692 5 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video using the tormach !

@brandonherreraofthenorth714 4 жыл бұрын

I'm eighteen, and I have to say I'm loving this trade and the opportunities it gives me.

@simon5898 5 жыл бұрын

metric! a dream came true! thank you!

@CTDFabrication 5 жыл бұрын

That's awesome! I need to get some Exotics to try on my desktop machines. Maybe pickup a few of those endmills. Nice job guys

@dirkieluus8049 5 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU FOR THE METRIC!!!

@alexkern9134 5 жыл бұрын

Always love seeing the schunk vise in the tormach.

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

BEAST

@norbertfleck812 3 жыл бұрын

You should try the LANG vises. Part of the price of a SCHUNK, really compact, highly precise but still good for heavy milling.

@TheGreatBooger 5 жыл бұрын

This is just awesome. Wondered if you where going to try pushing it. And I got my answer now.

@automan1223 5 жыл бұрын

Knowledge + Tooling + Machine + Patience = Success !! Tormach is a tough little machine !!!

@derekhartley4480 5 жыл бұрын

I've always thought that the adaptive tool paths should have an option to increase feed rate or step over as the depth of cut is reduced to keep that chatter/vibration down as the tool pressure is reduced. Also, it would increase productivity.

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@ScotY808 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely awesome! Thank you Titan and company for promoting the industry (and hobby) learning! Please, if you could, work with your suppliers to get them to accommodate hobby machinists. It’s very difficult to purchase from the bigger companies as they often don’t offer an online web shop and don’t want to deal with small orders. I haven’t tried too many, but Helical is one example of a company I’d like to order from but find it’s almost impossible to place a small order.

@JP-kk5vw 5 жыл бұрын

Try MSC. All the tooling you will ever need as a hobby boy!

@h2opower 5 жыл бұрын

I like the cooling setup and it is good to see that the Tormach can get at these hard materials it. Say, did you make that cooling system or buy it?

@buynsell365 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent job guys. Love it

@dulcemaberson916 5 жыл бұрын

Looks amazing! He nvr checked or verified one dimension, nice job titan

@chrisean888 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Titan, thanks for sharing this great video. Hope you will create some video for cutting 4140-PH with this little Tormach machine....

@jahabean 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the lesson's!

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

Your welcome

@TAWPTool 5 жыл бұрын

Another great video highlighting the Tormach! Thank you for including us HSM guys in the journey!

@thetruthyouneedtohear 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, I was hoping to see some slotting.

@ma101c 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Titan, could you tell what cycle time can you acheive machining this part on your DMG and Hass vs Tormcach?

@surajitmaji7182 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing .You all of you very best . Titan and his team inspire for me . I want to be a CNC expert .

@sladesmith5640 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the metric speeds and feeds👌👌👌

@goranmarkovic6002 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Titan,I like your style, how you are explaining and talking.

@Landril 3 жыл бұрын

TITAN!! It's only a matter of time before I buy one of these tormachs. Love the content you guys are amazing

@Slick-Jay 5 жыл бұрын

Thanx for the metric values 👌

@MAJORyurix 5 жыл бұрын

Hi! Could you please tell me what speed and feed for drilling aluminum extrusion with 12mm drill bit

@MaraD98 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@cidoguy3489 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Titan. I know youre using a loot of Haas machines... do u ever have a problem with a holders in a revolver after 3-4 year old machines? Usually on the clamps that hold big tools?

@corriesnow6689 4 жыл бұрын

i am so addicted to you're videos. well. about this tormach 770. wanted to buy one. but got bad feed back on play on the y axes that causes shatter and tool vibrating. can you please check play on the bed and quality before i spend money on some thing not worth while. thanks a lot for all the work you guys do and things that you guys teaches people.

@tobytompkins6466 5 жыл бұрын

How do you get good radial engagement at 15+ times diamameter stick out?

@jagodic7 5 жыл бұрын

Yoo titan I was working on haas machines in the past in some local small company and what we used was vacuum tables in the machines. So u dont need large clamps to hold it together and its way faster setup! Take look in to that!

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

Vacuum machines are Great for certain applications.

@jagodic7 5 жыл бұрын

@@TITANSofCNC I mean they are not really for titanium and hard materials, but for something soft like plastic or aluminium with no so much of a tolerance is turning out really good!

@Imperial_Ninja 4 жыл бұрын

What synthetic are you using. And also what % do you keep it at ??

@BrandonGlenn8867 5 жыл бұрын

I have A LOT of issues with my 770 in scenarios like this with high pitch chatter when cutting stainless. I can hear a little of that high pitch noise in the video around 5:55 in the video. Any suggestions on this?

@dogmaenslaved5434 5 жыл бұрын

You’re videos are awesome keep it up! Can you do more lathe videos?

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

Yes

@v10squirrel 5 жыл бұрын

Will the zombie cutter cut high speed steel or tool steel as well as inkanal and moanal. I don’t have a cnc but thinking I could cut forming tools in the mill for my lathe?

@nofunallowed3382 5 жыл бұрын

I mill a lot of tungsten, POM, stainless and mostly lead. Could you talk about any of these materials? I'm very curious what you're gonna say

@gettnmyown219 5 жыл бұрын

Do you re sharpen your Harvi III 's? If so, ones with chip breaker too? Send them back to Kennematel or where? Jusy got my shop to change tool paths and running the Harvi III. Love it! But need to know about resharpening please. Thank you

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

We don’t because we run them until they chip bad... but I will ask about it.

@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for addic metric to the infos!

@twothreefour234 2 жыл бұрын

Back in the day of gear driven, low rpm, high torque machines it was far more important to watch your backlash. As the hydraulically driven, high rpm, low torque machines came about backlash was much les of a problem. its also a guide for using big multi carbide cutters. One keller shop I worked in burned up the gearboxes of 6 Kellers

@kisspeteristvan 5 жыл бұрын

That small cut reminded me of a whoops moment , i had a couple day ago . Feed around 1000 my hand was on override , but otherwise it was on rapid . 17.5mm drill low cutting speed . I was glad the part and the bit was still ok 😅

@SoWe1 5 жыл бұрын

Would you recommend the "ZombieMill" in Super Duplex steels for the oil industry? My shop seems to have some problems with our current tools

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

Yes

@edwardpittman4506 5 жыл бұрын

Get me a job!!!!!! God I love your guys work and always trying new thing!!!

@africanelectron751 5 жыл бұрын

The metrology report?

@john-peterklop8189 5 жыл бұрын

How does the cycle time on the Tormach compare to a machine that would be more suited to run production of a part like this?

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

With this size tool... it’s about 33% but that’s great for a inexpensive machine that plugs into a regular garage outlet

@ibainesy 3 жыл бұрын

I know this is old, maybe someone can help me though. Where does Hastelloy fit in the hardness/toughness (I can never remember which is which) like is it harder/softer than Stainless steel? 4140? Mild steel?

@mactec98 5 жыл бұрын

Dear Titan cnc team, I’m a young individual in the trade looking to better myself as well as others. If you could consider making a video about inspiring and motivating your workforce I would greatly appreciate it. Derrick

@atomwerk 3 жыл бұрын

I will say this, as a mechanical engineer, that tool pressure is a term that I have found to be misunderstood industry-wide. The definition of pressure is force per unit area, i.e. P=F/A. Think of a hydraulic cylinder being extended by a hydraulic pump exerting 3000 psi. A larger cylinder will exert greater force even though the PRESSURE is exactly the same. The reason is that the piston in the cylinder has a greater surface area, and therefore according to that equation rearranged for force, F=P*A, the force increases. In this same manner, when you use a smaller tool, it is not the tool pressure that is changing... it is the force exerted on it that is changing.

@ianlockwood7842 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Guys, how about doing a more in depth film to help academy members specify their Tormach. What do we need as a minimum, what you would recommend for us to get from Tormach to help us follow through the academy program. You already have kits with Kennametal tools maybe its time for Tormach to produce a Titans Academy kit.

@rob7439 3 жыл бұрын

2 weeks in teaching myself mastercam still trying to figure out how to get my optirough path to take out the corners first.

@leensteed7861 2 жыл бұрын

I can't find anyone who wants to learn. I've even provided employees laptops and given them my cell number to ask questions about running the software and none ask me anything. None even try to learn. It's incredible to me. I always wanted to learn design and cnc programming and taught myself.

@jasondk5127 5 жыл бұрын

Adaptive cutterpaths make all the difference. I knew it would work from the beginning. Oh Yeah! Faster Faster!

@EUnit111986 5 жыл бұрын

Alright Titan, out with the 'surprise' video.... Already spilled some beans may as we spill em all. How would you compare your tormach against a Haas TM2?

@MatthewKennedyUK 3 жыл бұрын

Really interested in the Tormach machines, I can’t afford a big 3 phase machine plus I don’t have 3 phase at my home, but I could learn about machining with one of these

@Flipping_Assets Жыл бұрын

Can these cnc machines cut any kind of metal?

@nicktaylor5819 5 жыл бұрын

Hey titan when are you going to review the main milling machines makers and buy a new cnc bridgeport with heidenhain see if they still make them as good as they was back in the 30s

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

Definitely don’t make them like they used to... Bridgeport is made over seas I believe.

@JP-kk5vw 5 жыл бұрын

The new Bridgeports are made in Hardinge's operated plant in Taiwan. They are very nice machines. Owning older Bridgeport CNC's I can tell you that the new machines are more rigid and accurate. Hardinge controls all the QC and manufacturing in that plant. Only their high end lathes are still made in Elmira, NY.

@JP-kk5vw 5 жыл бұрын

Titan, you should get a new Hardinge H51 or a Conquest. I run 90's and early 2000's Hardinge lathes. Still Super Precision. If I was in your shoes, I would hook up with them! USA....BOOM!

@josephgerads9057 5 жыл бұрын

For 7 years my 1100s have been machining stainless steel, hardened steel, 8620, 4140, tractor flywheels, Ampco 18, tool steel, HSS, doing farm/construction repair part machining, try machining a diesel engine wrist pin now that is hard.

@deutzallis6497 5 жыл бұрын

How did I end up here Joe

@Holey_Moley 4 жыл бұрын

But is the part within spec? I know this is an old vid. I’m gonna keep watching this series and find out..

@Slick-Jay 5 жыл бұрын

What's the load on that spindle?

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

There is no load meter... all by hearing

@joshuahuman1 5 жыл бұрын

Is hastelloy harder than most hardened tool steels

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

Not harder than all... It’s Hard because it’s half Nickel, but also just gummy and nasty... It’s all about good tools at the rights speeds

@user-mj5so5zy5e 4 жыл бұрын

Все время обрабатывают алюминий)=) и такие круто)

@firearmsstudent 5 жыл бұрын

Did it hold tolerances?

@zombieresponder 4 жыл бұрын

That's the real question.

@johnelliott3866 5 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video on deburring

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

Yes

@Vytor01 5 жыл бұрын

But did it meet spec? If Titan was trying to manufacturer this part then I want to know if it met spec? Aerospace metal, did it meet aerospace spec?

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

Perfectly in spec.

@advil000 5 жыл бұрын

I cut 6al4v in my 770 Series 3 constantly (I wish I had the more powerful spindle motor in your swanky new 770M). Is it absolutely ideal? Hell no. Does it make me money with nothing more than a 110v wall plug? Hell yes! Small cutters with steep angle of entry (1/8, 3/16, 1/4, max 5/16).

@gopalakrishnanm4225 5 жыл бұрын

Plzzz. Make more metric videos....

@calico88 5 жыл бұрын

More video with another harder metal cut please, i’m still not buying that tormach can cut stainless, steel, titanium like butter ? Maybe this new model 770M ? I wonder what’s the different than the old model 770 ( without “M” ) ?

@Livedracersteve 5 жыл бұрын

You can find the spec sheets for both the 770m and the p770 and that will give you the difference. Tormach is getting ready to roll out the MX line which will have a new spindle for better holders, servos (instead of stepper motors), updated path pilot, and more.

@calico88 5 жыл бұрын

Tuba Player what’s the difference in cutting result between 770 and 770m is my question. Does 770 can’t cut hard metal as good as 770m ??

@Icutmetal 4 жыл бұрын

calico88888888 I don’t see how it would; steppers vs. servos.

@multiHappyHacker 5 жыл бұрын

Pushing a Tormach? Now you're speaking my language. Would it help the chatter, as less of the tool length is engaged, to push it faster?

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

Yes... as you could see, my chip load was set low because of the Axial depth... but it could be possibly doubled on the short cuts

@multiHappyHacker 5 жыл бұрын

@@TITANSofCNC Does it work to set the top height below the top, say, halfway down on the adaptive, then run a second adaptive with the bottom height the top of the first, at a faster feed-rate?

@jeffreystoesser6878 5 жыл бұрын

Time to push it a little harder !

@nbprotocol5406 5 жыл бұрын

use a high helix end mill

@micahcrump6304 4 жыл бұрын

I know I’m late to the party. Will this cut steel too?

@norbertfleck812 3 жыл бұрын

Hastelloy is much more nasty than steel.

@denefbla 4 жыл бұрын

I mill titanium with a 3/4hp grizzly. Not even playing the same game as these big guys. But its the same principle about speeds an feeds

@andysen1987 5 жыл бұрын

yeahhh metric! please do it in every video

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

Will do

@daveyt4802 3 жыл бұрын

What did the chunk of HX cost? Try a piece of copper next. :)

@TheDartblockstang 2 жыл бұрын

I want a tormach 770m

@G36934 5 жыл бұрын

Measure it and find the slop in the machine.

@Livedracersteve 5 жыл бұрын

Josh Miller when they made the part out of 4140 they said it measured really close. Also the MX and M+ line is coming with servos which may be a little better for the accuracy then the motors they currently ship with.

@alexgregg2466 5 жыл бұрын

METRIC!!

@kylehofmeister6906 5 жыл бұрын

In my experience, Hastelloy was never that hard to mill. Its small diameter drilling and tapping that makes it a pain in the ass to work with... It mills pretty well though.

@TITANSofCNC 5 жыл бұрын

The point is that the Spindle is Only 1.5 HP... and we recently also did drilling videos giving correct speeds and feeds

@kylehofmeister6906 5 жыл бұрын

@@TITANSofCNC O ya, not knocking the machine at all! Drilling and tapping hastelloy isn't terrible on machines either. Its more of a tooling nightmare problem. Actually could you recommend any drill or tap brands you like to run in the high nickle materials??? Thanks for the reply!

@grappler185 5 жыл бұрын

Come on guys, Lets get some more Tormach videos going! I have an 1100 in my garage I use on a product made out of 7075 T6. Show us how to push feeds and speeds with a 1.5HP machine that can only go 110IPS. Can I get a "Boom!"